Japanese Karate Sensei Reacts To Tang Soo Do For The FIRST Time! 

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I love how he doesn’t criticize any style when he’s watching them (from what I’ve seen), but instead compares them to his style and explains the differences.

The red stripe denotes Master status. Also, different schools teach slightly different variations. I've trained TSD for 30 years, the groin strike in our dojang was always palm up.

Taekwondo and kung fu practitioner here, I would say the first guy was more polished. Keep up the good work! Much respect to your channel.

I have been training in Tang Soo Do for 25 years. The way a Hyung (kata) is performed usually reliant on the association they belong to. The high kicks and jumping are to teach agility and coordination. The masters belt is the black belt with red stripe. If you have any questions please feel free to reach out.

I do TSD. "Tang Soo Do" is the Korean pronunciation of "Karate do" in old kanji, meaning "China hand way." This is what karate was called in Korea before they adopted the name tae kwon do. All the forms are very close to traditional karate forms. The guy in the second video with a red stripe in his belt is at least 4th dan.

TSD is an excellent strong style. Chuck Norris is their most famous practitioner.

I have trained Tang Soo Do for 13 years. I learned palm up with bunkai of grab the groin and yank it. My instructor told me that they sometimes censor this for kids. The bunkai for kids is to grab the inseam for a take-down. The red stripe is master level (fouth degree and up). Long and low stances are emphasized. We know that is not practical in a real fight. We use forms as a strength and conditioning exercise in addition to practicing fighting application. Chamboring the hand high is also emphasized. (I get corrected for that all the time.) It is about not getting lazy or sloppy with the non-punching hand. My favorite is the second group. Watching the red belt in the back shows the quality of the the instruction and the attention to detail. They have good preparatory position and good extension. The first one is not wearing a traditional Tang Soo Do uniform. I'm curious what organization he is from. I was at the international tournament in Rotterdam in 2013! (Traveled from California, USA)

As a TaeKwonDo and Soo Bahk Do (formerily/also known as Tang Soo Do) practicioner, I am delighted to see this. The forms you chose to review are 8ncidently all versions of karate kata (perhaps you chose them to compare them directly?) But there are so many other forms, specific to TSD that are a whole lot different and complex.. I'd love to ser your reaction to some of those.. Try search for "Chil Sung Sa Dan Hyung" , "Du Moon Hyung" or the "Yuk Ro" series of forms.. I enjoy your content, btw. :-)

I love that you reacted to Amkor's Naihanchi in the second clip. I've trained Tang Soo Do for years, and their schools produce the highest quality TSD I've ever seen. Thank you for the reaction, sir!

@4:02 Me: that's an interesting new way of bowing. Sensei: "oh look, he made a mistake already." Me: "yeah that makes more sense."

Tang Soo Do was the style that Chuck Norris trained in while he was stationed in Korea.

I was training for 8 years in Tang Soo Do. In our dojo. From green belt up our students had excellent form and speed. I was a bit surprised to see so many high ranking black belts that had neither. Those must be the McDojos I have been hearing about.

TKD, HKD, and TSD practitioner here, I thought the last one was the most entertaining to watch, but the second guy was the most skilled

I am Tang Soo Do practitioner, and when we do the spear low it is palm UP like yours, the red stripe is a Masters Belt 4th dan and Above. And Naihanchinfornme we step next to the foot it depends on the federation and or American Tang Soo Do or Korean. Crescent kick at the end of Bassai. I prefer the 1st 2 guys personally.

Awesome! Tang Soo Do practitioner here and from the Netherlands, so happy you showed our team :D For your first question about the spear hand I also wonder, I've also been taught to have palm facing up and never seen it like that before. Red strip is 4th dan and up The founder of Tang Soo Do, Hwang Kee, took a lot of inspiration from ,amongst others, Shotokan, which explains the similarities. Going way back the basis is also in the Hwa Rang warriors and Hwa Rang Do. As for which I liked best in the forms, I of course have a slight bias towards the Dutch ;) But I'd agree that for practicality, the first was better. But I also believe for the team it wouldn't be possible to keep that intensity up as their form was super long, so dividing the energy was key there. You can find plenty of their solo forms online, where you will see the difference in performance. And no, it doesn't have to be bunkai related to the form they're performing ;)

Fantastic to see Tang Soo Do again. I trained in Moo Duk Kwan in my younger years with Sa Bu Nim Kim. Very professional and polite. Always smiling even when disciplining us for forgetting respect. Lol. I will never forget the feeling after a two hour session. Energized and completely positive. I was in Bristol in England at the time. Thank you for posting very happy memories. 👍

Tang Soo Do uses midnight blue as our Dan rank belt. The red stripe is for Sah Bom Nim or master rank, typically 4th Dan and higher. The use of midnight blue is related to Korea’s cultural meaning of the color black.

I understand that most of Korean masters who founded schools after the Japanese ocupation in WW2 trained in japanese martial arts like karate, kendo, judo, etc. (since all native korean culture practices were banned) and they founded the new styles out of this arts. Most Karate related styles in Korea come from a Shotokan base and a few of them have also kung fu elements but those a minor i think.

Tang Soo Do is misunderstood by many who think of it as a monolithic style. Before the introduction of the term taekwondo in early 1955, all Korean karate organizations called their arts either tangsoodo or kongsoodo. 99.9% of current tangsoodo schools are Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan or have their roots in Moo Duk Kwan. There is considerable variation in different organization's hyung (kata). As an instructor for over 40 years, I see numerous errors in these forms, and many of them you have pointed out in your observations. Some would argue otherwise, but to them I always ask "What is the bunhae/bunkai?". With exception of two forms, Rohai and O Sip Sa Bo (Gojushiho) from Shudokan, all Tang Soo Do hard-style forms are Shotokan versions, with some very minor alterations.

Been doing Tang Soo Do/Moodukkwan for years. I was taught to push my knees over my ankles and do a proper hip tilt in the horse stance. However my instructors have trained in Shotokan as well as TSD/TKD. Also palm up on the groin strike. The variety between schools in America and Korea are all different and distant from each other. Thanks for the video. Much appreciated.

The red stripe in the center of the belts denotes anyone of 4th Dan or higher, depending on the organization. In some, the red stripe is reserved only for those who have fulfilled the requirements to be a Master Instructor, or SaBom Nim. In other organizations, the title SaBom Nim is awarded upon achieving 4th Dan. There are a lot of comments saying the first man was so much more polished and precise than the others. He is the most senior of the people demonstrating. IIRC, the man demonstrating Pyong Ahn O Dan was a 5th or 6th Dan at the time of that filming. Compared to the lower ranks, especially the team of 2nd Dans demonstrating at the end of the video, it makes sense that the higher rank would perform better. It's the difference between 6-9 years training and 25-30+ years training. Regarding the first gentleman's hand positioning during the spearhands, I have always performed and taught it as being palm up. I do recall there being an application for having the hand sideways, but I can't remember what it may have been. This was a very interesting video. I love that you approached this, not from a standpoint of Shotokan being superior, but from a standpoint of wanting to understand another art's perspective. Would you do another one on Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan?

Thank you, sir, for taking some of our suggestions and looking into Tang Soo Do!

I've been training Taekwondo since 1999, I''m a 3rd Dan. I have been training karate also for a couple of years with my daughter and I'm an orange belt. I know Yondan and I am learning Godan. I attended my first Tang Soo Do class tonight. Their 4th form is Heidan Shodan, I was so surprised. The warm up, basics and the kicking on the pads had me sweating. I misheard and thought they said 40 kicks so gave it my all switching sides every kick digging it in. It was 40 on each side, 40 on the other. It was a good hard fitness session but no sparring just light touch at the end. I spent two years of someone correcting my form and Kata from Taekwondo to Karate "Get lower, a straighter knife hand". After we warmed up we did the basics and the instructor moved my low blocking hand from past my knee to the inside of my knee. I smiled and held in a laugh. I will go again next Tuesday as well. They were a good committed group. PS I also did normal jiu jitsu but wasn't feeling challenged enough so I got a blue belt in BJJ... as that's all people seem to care about at the moment.

Yes! You gotta check out some of the vintage videos of Tang Soo Do / Soo Bahk Do's founder, Grand Master Hwang Kee, training. Much like you discovered with TKD, modern TSD and older TSD are very different. The back foot on the front-stance, for example, used have the toes pointing forward, like you're riding skis instead of a skateboard. That "hook kick" is an outside-to-inside crescent kick. As you can see, we use them a lot in this art. A great kicking chain is front-leg inside / outside, to rear-leg outside / inside, to spinning front-leg inside / outside, and then either a rear-leg round kick or side kick. And to answer your question: Sa Bom Nim (Master Instructor; second one, with red stripe) had the best technique. Notice how his fists relax after every strike. This is one of our 8 Key Concepts called "shin chook." Or "relax / expand, tense / contract." Every technique is thrown while relaxed and the tension comes just before the point of impact.

I took Shorin Ryu Matsumura while on Okinawa. The self defence is not always taken from the kata as in Shotokan. It is often used at the discretion of the practitioners, and not all techniques are the exact replica of kata. For instance the kicks may not be perfect, but usable. I used to spar with a world class kickboxer who told me that I had real good defence. When he made an opening...I capitalized on it. Respect.

It would be great if you could react to HEMA(Historical European Martial Arts)

I studied both Tang Soo Do and Shotokan, I enjoy the differences. The red line on the Tang Soo Do black belt denotes a Fourth Dan.

Thanks for this representation of the art I practice.

Hello from Russia🇷🇺

Almost all the founders of the 9 original kwans of Tango Soo Do and Later Tae Kwon Do have studied Shotokan Karate, except one who have studied with Kanken Toyama´s Shundokan. But almost all the Tang So Do syllabus become from Shoto Kan Karate. Korea was a Japanese Clony and the young Koreans who have university studies had have to live in Japan. When Korea reach its independence founded its own karate styles which were the 5 and then 9 original kwans. One of the origal kwan founder whose name is Hwan Kee have no records of Shoto Kan sudies, but his katas (forms) are identical to shotokan karate too.

For anyone wondering about the belts (two years later): Yes, he is the highest there. In the World Tang Soo Do Association,First, second, and third degree (Cho, E, and Sam Dan) are black belts with one, two, or three white stripes respectively at the end of the left side of their belts. Fourth degree and Fifth degree (Sah Dan and Oh Dan) masters have a red line along the middle of their belts (they look the same for some reason) Sixth and Seventh degrees (Yuk and Chil Dans) also look the same, except with two thinner red stripes along the center of their belts. Eight and degrees are considered to be Grandmasters, and their belt is actually white and red blocks, alternating along the belt. There is only ever one Ninth degree grandmaster (as far as I'm aware) and their belt is black with red blocks, still alternating. Note: 4 or more golden stripes at the end of the belt are sometimes seen. People with these belts are "Instructors," not masters. I personally do not know the difference, and it's not really important for a youtube comment anyways. Have an above average day!

Im a tang so do student and this is awesome

I have been training in Tang Soo Do for years and years I agree with your assessment the last guys need a little more practice. But they were pretty good just a Lille more work.

Tang Soo Do comes from shotokan. The “father of Tang Soo Do” was a man named Won Kuk Lee. During the Japanese occupation of Korea, he lived in Japan and studied directly under Gichin Funakoshi and his son, “Gigo” earning a fourth dan (second highest rank in shotokan at the time). Basically he was a senpai to the founders of the JKA. Upon returning to Korea, he opened a school in 1944 and began calling what he had learned in Japan “Tang Soo Do”. Eventually others who had also trained in shotokan or shudokan began opening schools in Korean and called what they were doing “Tang Soo Do’ or “Kong Soo Do”. They began making changes to what they had learned in Japan, most notably the kata and even claiming that it was 2000 years old. Anyway, something that should be pointed out is that kata can vary from Tang Soo Do organization or even schools. The way they’re done isn’t universal like it is in say shotokan. For example, my instructor received his black belt from Chuck Norris in the 1970s. There’s a youtuber whose father is also a Norris black belt. My instructor does them the way Norris taught them back in the day, the youtuber’s group made changes to them. So it varies. I will say in American Tang Soo Do, we don’t do any of our kata like these. Because of Norris training with Ohshima, Nishiyama, Demura and Kim there’s more Japanese influence that was brought in or rather reintroduced into our system of Tang Soo Do. As for the belt the guy is wearing...the Moo Duk Kwan branch of Tang Soo Do for masters (fourth dan and above) they wear a “masters” belt which is a black or dark blue belt with a red stripe along the length of it. As black belt in American Tang Soo Do (Chuck Norris system) I won't say which one was the best, but I will say which one was the worst and that would be the team version. That was just bad. I know it's not cool to critique someone unless I've got a video of my own, but no way I'm the only one. If this was WKF rules they would have been disqualified very quickly.

I study tang soo do, and my association (different from the first video) we use the hand flat, not sideways. There are variations between different associations and federations with certain movements

Your picture shows GM Jhoon Rhee training with Bruce Lee. GM Rhee was a student of Chung Do Kwan TSD. It was one of the first kwans to adopt the name Tae Kwon Do (along with Oh Do Kwan) in 1955, because General Choi Hong Hi was head of both kwans.

The first practitioner is my favorite I’ve been following him for years he does a wonderful job

I do the exact Kata in my Karate school, we call it "Pyoung Oh Dan" I'm black belt 1st degree and still learning new katas and remember this by heart

Tang Soo Do is the basis for the martial art practiced by Cobra Kai. It is also the initial martial art practiced by The Stillwells in the film, No Retreat No Surrender.

There is a grandmaster in Phoenix, AZ he brought Tang Soo Do to America in 1970. That dude is so legit the simple way he rolls his hips when doing forms is so awesome n generates so much more power. Incredible human being indeed.

In the US, Tae Kwon-Do, Tang Soo Do, and a few other similar martial arts used to be referred to as Korean Karate.

Thank you for using one of my videos. I like the first guy too 😂

Nagano sensei, ogenki desu ka? My name is Don and am Chinese American, 1st one in my family born in the US. My background in the martial arts begins in my freshman year at UC Berkeley with tae kwon do (13 years total, 2nd dan advanced beginner), hapkido (Korean form of aikido, 3rd Kub - Kyu) and judo (9 months, no ranking). In 1983, I began training in Chinese martial arts with the Cantonese style of Hung Gar (Hung family and a Southern Shaolin style), Yang style tai chi, half of the N. Shaolin hand forms, and Sun style tai chi for almost 40 years. My Chinese martial arts training overlapped with the tae kwon do for about 3 years. If you look at the history of Tang Soo Do, many of the practitioners returned to Korea from Japan after WW II and brought back their knowledge of what they learned in Japan and China and combined with native Korean martial arts. The original kanji used for kara in karate was the one for Tang, as in Tang dynasty or Tode in the Ryu Kyu language. Due to the pre-war nationalism, Funakoshi sensei changed the Chinese character to the similar sounding one for "empty." So the kata (hyung in Korean for image) brought back from Japan were those of Okinawan origin. Although I hadn't learned these forms in my tae kwon do training (the forms were already modernized except for Basic Form 1 = Kibon Il (1) Bo, by the time I had started training), I know that the forms that you reviewed were the Korean pronunciations of the Chinese characters, example: Mandarin - Ping An, Okinawan - Pin An, Japanese - Hei An, Korean - Pyong An. As to the Naifanchi (2nd form on the video), you commented on the fist's chamber positioning being high (next to the pectoral muscle). I discovered that when one chambers higher, it tightens the muscles like a spring would tighten more and have more potential energy. With punching forward, there is more power when the "spring" and potential energy is released. Also, if one is punching to the solar plexus target, one is punching downward and using gravity to assist, as opposed to punching upward from the hip. I only move the fist to the higher chamber position right before punching, as it is difficult to maintain the higher chamber due to muscle tightness. Please try this out to see if you can feel any difference.

Tang soo do practitioner here. Over 20 years and currently 3rd dan. Technique and stances do vary depending on school. Instead of palm strike to the groin we do spear hand to the tender area beside the groin and then rip the …. Off. Lol. I come from a small independent school. We don’t use the red middle strip belts. We use colored tape for dan rank. White for 1st, yellow 2nd, green 3rd, red 4th. From what i read the red middle strip belts recognize 4th dans as masters. So most 4th dans are considered masters. My school completely separates rank and the title master. Most recently a 6th dan earned master rank. Probably figure it all depends on the head of the schools and their lineage. Also sometimes instructors change things.

Would love to see you do a video on Ed Parkers American Kenpo Karate. there's probably a lot of things in that style of Martial arts that differ from your boarder line karate.

Pat Johnson and Chuck Norris was learned Tang soo do in 1950s~1960s at South Korea And they founded America Tang soo do assosiation. Pat Johnson Is also martial art director Karate kid and Cobra kai series. Thats why Tang soo do is Cobra Kai's Karate

I greatly appreciate your review and comparison of these different form. It was done with a welcoming and non-critical approach. I'm a Soo Bahk Do practitioner since 04'. In reference to the 1st form, my instruction has always been the groin strike with my palm up. Thank you again for your charitable approach

It's probably already been commented on but to answer your questions about the belt: Many TSD schools Cho Dan (Sho Dan) black belts are actually dark blue or "midnight blue" instead of black. Black represents perfection, and as no one is perfect and always seeking perfection the dark blue is used instead. Some schools however do use black belts. The red stripe on the belt represents a master/teacher level, usually 4th degree and higher. Some schools will even have another type of striped belt for senior Dan levels. The knife hand in the first form, must be a variation depending on the school he trained at, I learned palm up for the low knife hand strikes myself.

Been studying Tang Soo Do (ITF) for 23 years now. 1. In regards to the ending knife-hand in Pyung Ahn O Dan (which btw that guy did things a bit different from how I've been taught), it's because it's supposed to be a groin strike, then a grab. Not very pleasant. 2. Red stripe on the belt means he's a master (4th dan or higher). Also, we call it "keema hyung" instead of naihanchi. And the picking up of the leg is to emphasize the stomp. 3. In TSD, the forms are called palche deh and kong sohn deh. Definitely would have some nits to pick on the stances of those three, but maybe it's just style differences. Really interesting to see different styles of TSD, though. Some of them even do choon bee (ready stance) differently.

I have trained in both Tang Soo Do, where I achieved a Red Belt, and Goju Ryu Karate, where I am currently a Green Belt and still practicing. Tang Soo Do emphasizes high, powerful kicks and linear movements, blending hard and soft techniques with a strong focus on striking. Goju Ryu Karate, on the other hand, balances hard strikes with soft, circular movements, and places significant importance on breathing techniques and close-range combat. As I’ve grown older, I find that I have a preference for the practices and principles of Goju Ryu Karate.

However the forms are performed differently depending on the organization you belong to.

I’ve been training Tang Soo Do for 43 years . The low palm strike was taught to me palm up . It was described to me as a pelvis strike or a grabbing and tearing attack to the groin . Naihanchi Cho Dan as well as E Dan is a bit different . I would recommend looking at other organizations as well . From my experience it doesn’t appear to be consistent with the other groups . Not wrong by any means just different.

Finger spear to the center under the sternum (rib cage), right under the Xiphoid process. The diaphragm for the lungs is exposed and is utilized for minimal effort to knock the wind from the person used on.

Just for anyone to know tang soo do was made from soo bak do, northern and southern Chinese martial arts and Japanese martial arts so there is a bit of wing chun looking movments but more shaolin martial arts and the majority is Japanese martial arts (judo, juijutsu and shotokan karate) and the rest is soo bak do which is an ancient Korean Martial art ,which the sillia kingdom trained their soldiers with, which had a lot of kicks which is why tkd and tsd both have good kicks. Tsd has a big focus on hip rotation to generate power- much like many styles of karate. Tang soo do can be effective if taught right or can be terrible if taught wrong- much like every martial art

The first video is my dad! His name is Master Joey Hurt. We train at Hurt’s Gym in Pasadena Tx. Sir I’d be an honor if you come and visit us at his gym.

Great observations. I studied Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan in Bad Hersfeld, Germany from 1978 - 1982, my instructor and I were both in the Army at the time.

"SENSEI ICHI" is a good TANG SOO DO channel source.

I took Shotokan for about two years. Learned real quick how important the stances are. One time during class, my Sensei walked by me and said: "Your dachi is too wide." Next thing I knew, I was on the ground staring at the ceiling.

Hey the instructor doing nihanchi is actually in my organisation. There is a lot of differences even within organisations in tangsoodo. Tangsoodo is just the Korean expression of shotokan.

this is such a blast from the past for me. I have been doing Tang Soo Do for 10 years now (I am now 6 months from becoming a 3rd degree black belt). A few years ago my teacher decided to become a bit more practical and he and a couple other teachers split from the ITSDF (International Tang Soo Do Federation) and so there are a couple of moves that I am used to doing differently (for example we now do two fist block in fighting stance with a half punch instead of a second block because honestly the second block is kind of useless)

First was much better. His hand position in the Heian/Pinan form is just a style interpretation. I've studied Tang Soo Do for many years and do that technique like Shotokan. The last group of kata performers was not the greatest representation of TSD but commendable effort. All in all TSD is just the Korean interpretation of Shotokan. Won Kuk Lee, Chung Do Kwan founder learned Shotokan under Funakoshi Gichin Sensei and Funakoshi’s son in Japan. Won Kuk Lee brought Shotokan to Korea and taught it under the name Tang Soo Do. Hwang Kee studied with Won Kuk Lee then started his own school and taught Tang Soo Do as well. Won Kuk Lee then transformed his style into Tae Kwon Do which was an amalgamation of several Korean styles and schools brought together under the Korean Government. Hwang Kee continued teaching TSD and stayed away from the TKD banner.The TSD we have today is credited to Hwang Kee. Many people claim TSD has influenced from some indigenous Korean martial arts like Taekyon and Subahk which can be seen in the kicks and some of the striking, but mostly TSD is Shotokan. Don't let anyone fool you. The biggest and most recognizable influence is Shotokan. Cheers, Your friend from 🇺🇸, Ryan

The first hand technique you mentioned was a spear hand, a subtle variation of the strike you demonstrated. The purpose is to strike the soft tissue of the eye and throat. Great channel. Keep up the good work.

from what i remember 1:18 is like a ridge hand strike to the pelvic girdle or bladder or something, the red stripe in the middle marks 4 degree and above.

I got my 3rd Dan in TSD back in 2000 and I used to teach preschoolers and preteens back then. I also took up Tae Kwon Do and Karate for a while after TSD and found that it wasn’t so hard to excel in TKD and Karate given my experience in TSD. TSD felt like a mix of TKD and Karate with TKD focusing on more kicks and Karate on hand techniques. But I given the similarities, while learning TKD and Karate, and though I was a 3rd Dan in TSD, I felt like I had so much more to learn from both TKD and Karate. The happiest memories from my younger days.

I used to practice Tang Soo Do, currently practice Tae Kwon do. I still have a great respect and affection for Tang Soo Do as it was my first martial arts style, and I believe, a crucial bridge between Shotokan and Tae Kwon do. And, I still practice Bassai Dai sometimes on my own. I am trying to convince my teacher to introduce it into our school curriculum, even though technically it is not an ITF form. But we do other forms, such as Koryo which are not part of the ITF curriculum, so why not?

So, to answer your questions as to the differences the honest answer is that the changes were made to differentiate from how Shotokan does it for political reasons. Any other answer that you you may hear is a secondary reason. The Koreans made changes to TSD and TKD specifically not teach a “Japanese” art.

I’ve been doing Tang Soo Do for 15 years. I took some time off right after I got my Dan to get married. I have since tested two more times and am training for fourth degree now. The red stripe means he is a master. I personally would not have posted any of these forms. Many of the comments you made were problems I saw that my instructor has had with my own technique over the years. The deep stances are intended to strengthen the legs while forcing hip mobility. Hip movement has been ingrained in me since day one. Most of these did not use enough.

Red stripe is a 4th or 5th degree Black Belt. 4th degree or above is considered a "Master," in traditional Tang Soo Do. 2 stripes if 6th or 7th degree.

I was a traditional okinawan tang soo do student when I was younger. Now I study american tang soo do (chuck norris system)

Hi I trained in Tag soo do in the uk under Grandmaster master Kang uk Lee which is probably the best training I’ve ever had in martial arts it’s a lot different then in the USA

Red stripe is cho dan( instructor) . Black with yellow is sa ba nim ( master)

I do Korean tang soo do have been doing it for 8 years and I will become a second Dan black belt this year

For front stance, the knee is actually supposed to be above the ankle. The low level pierce is also supposed to be flat handed rather than side angled.

I've learn Taekwondo when I was in middle school. And I'm doing Karate like for 10 Years now. What I realize is, Tang Soo Do are Karate but with Taekwondo basic move (Kibon Dongjak).

If I am not mistaken, was the famous actor and martial artist Chuck Norris also a practitioner in Tang Soo Do? I think besides Tang Soo Do, he also practiced in Judo and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu too.

I did taekwondo for a couple years and can confirm they focus hard on wide stances to the point where they try to train everyone to do the splits during the cooldown stretch. the "punching stance" is practically a full squat but spring-loaded punches hurt

The obi with the red stripe in the middle is "Sah Dan" - 4th Dan MASTER or Oh Dan (5th Dan Master) with 2 red stripes it is Yuk Dan or Chil Dan .. 6 or 7-

Good video here, one thing I would say though is that there are different variations of Tang Soo Do, just like there are different variations of Shotokan (or karate in general). Some are more like TKD, some are more alike Shotokan, or even Wado.

With Shorin Ryu when the kicks are high, We attack the legs. No legs....no balance. We hardly kick above the waist. But I never made it to black belt before leaving. Started late. But a 3rd brown belt was a lot to handle. I remember our main instructor was a Red Belt. 10 Dan Cant get higher than that. He was a real deal. Quick as lightning for a real old man. Respect.

I thought Tang So Do is a Karate of Korean version. The master learned Karate and brought it back to Korea. That's how I understood it.

JKA also use the hand vertical in this strike 1:02, it was described to us as probably a deep strike to the plexus and aimed at the medial edge of the liver or diaphragm rupture, which is anatomically close to correct

The blue belt with the red stripe is a master belt. I am in Edan that is a second-degree black belt.

TSD is still a Korean martial art, an art with a lot of kicking. This may be an explanation of the variation in the stance. Sensei, you are fair in your critique of any martial arts, you have uploaded because you ask for feedback on the particular movement that you do not understand, a rare attribute among the Shotokan practitioners.- Arigato

Tang Soo Do is kind of a pun - in kanji it is 唐手道, which comes from an older way of writing "karate-do," which loosely means "Chinese martial arts." (The popular way to write it now is 空手道, or "empty-handed martial arts") Of course there is various history behind the names and the changes.

the lead in still photograph is Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee (doing the sidekick) the virtual father of Teakwondo in America. it is from the classic ITF big book Teakwondo, circa 1972

The reason why the the hand is sideways is to represent a spear

i learned 2 new wrist locks by watching a Tang Soo Do black belt test. Isshinryu already teaches so many submissions, but I swear I had never seen these two in the Tang Soo Do BB test, even though I probably known 250 or more submissions.

It basically is just karate. 唐手道(china hand way) is read as tang soo do in korean. 空手道(empty hand way) in korean would be kong soo do both names were used in the early days of karates introduction to korea. Alterations to stances/techniques in name/application and new forms were later introduced specifically to make it less japanese post occupation. This continued until it eventually became it's full koreanized form as we know it today as Taekwondo.

I am A USKA karate World Champion and the toughest fighter I had was a Tang Soo Do Stylist. I had to dig down very deep to beat him.

Check out C S Kim's Tang Soo Do videos. He's one of the first TSD practitioners to come to the US from Korea. His forms look almost exactly like Shotokan. BTW Tang Soo Do is often called Korea's version of Shotokan. The founder Hwang Khee studied Karate books, with most people believing that he used Gichin Funakoshi's books. Also many of the early founders of Korean Karate trained in Japanese Karate. Primarily Shotokan, but also, Shudokan, Shorin Ryu, Wado Ryu and others. Some also trained in Kung Fu.

I learned from someone that TSD was one of the prototype of TKD in 20th century.

5th Dan TSD: A refreshing comparison, thanks! To address your question on the low hand technique: It seems that this is showing a ridge hand strike, using the bones of the hand of the thumb and index fingers metacarpals. This isn't universal. Different masters/grandmasters over the decades have taught different versions, e.g., palm strike. Another example is the twin hand technique comparison: I have had two different masters at different time periods insist differently: one as you have pointed out, another as demonstrated, here, in the video. Sometimes it is misleading when we use "Tang Soo Do." TSD has become synonymous with the Moo Duk Kwan Style but "Tang Soo Do" is more like saying "Karate-do." Thought TSD practitioners nearly all trace their lineage to the Moo Duk Kwan, the style of practice is not always consistent among those students. A note on the "Red Stripe" it represents "Movement toward the Internal," in that the initial aspects of TSD begin "Hard" and "External" methods, it is expected that 4th Dan + have understood internal mechanics, and more internal forms that are not related to shared-lineage forms are introduced. Also as a side, though Sam-chin is not usually taught, some other forms from areas of China are, e.g., "DamDoi" (Tantui) and "So Rim Chaeng Kwon" (Which is "Shaolin Long Fist"). There are also other Ro-hai forms taught, though I only know the first (widely taught) and the second (rarely known, nowadays).

As a person who trains in Moo Duk Kwan (Style of TSD meaning Military knowledge School) I do have immense gratitude for your respect to Tang Soo Do and making it more widely known,감사합니다. (Thank You)

I'm a TSD practitioner. All of them did well. Even in TSD like in Karate there are slight differences in kata performance. The 1st kata we call Pinan or Hyung 5. The 2nd was Nianhanchi and the team did Bassai Dai and Jindo. We perform it a little different. TSD has strong Shotokan and Shutokan base. Based on research by myself and one of my students. The red strip on the black belt means Master instructor. By the way, I enjoy your channel

I studied Tang soo do under Master CI KIM. He was trained by grandmaster Hwang Kee along with H.C Hwang the grand masters son. It was in mid 80"s in Michigan. What a honor to have been taught by C.I Kim. Things have in many ways changed on interpretation of proper form of foot positions and maximizing hip rotation for max power etc. The one thing I see in the last few decades is the abused term of Grand master?? Also master Most clubs seem to be powder puff, watered down versions of what once was traditional art of the style itself. I would rather have a emphasis on traditional teachings sticking with the articles of faith to ones true "ART". I appreciate your humble opinion on this footage.

I have a black belt in Japanese/American Shotokan and trained in Tang Soo Do up to red belt, just like Shotokan different schools very in stance and techniques, Tang Soo Do schools very as well. I agree with your line up

Yes Red Belt with Black trim is a Master, Kodanja

I am a cho dan in Tang Soo Do, and I have always done the palm heel strike and a few other minor differences to what is shown in this video for Pyung Ahn O Dan

Karate, Tai Kwan Do, were all called 唐手道=Tong Sao Do, before 1950! In a nutshell, they all belong to the same Southern Shaolin style when arriving in Okinawa in the 18th century!