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JAPANESE KNIFE - First Time Sharpening Your New Knife ! 

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Hey folks, thanks for tuning in as always!
In todays video we're going to be talking about shaking the nerves for your first time sharpening your new Japanese (or any other type, to be fair) knife. This video is more about the preparation and equipment you really need to get started, if you want a video on specific techniques, angles, talking about hand pressures and such you can find our sharpening tutorial video here:
• How to Sharpen a knife...
What a throwback, well be redoing this video very soon and I'll update the link but its there now to hold you over.
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Комментарии : 80   
@marlonsiguenza228
@marlonsiguenza228 2 года назад
Sorry Elmerfud, but this was crap. Waaaay too much gibber gabbing no showy showy. Thanks but no. Glad I moved through the video quickly.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 2 года назад
haha! Woah, not sure why name calling is necessary. As the title implies, this video is more to get beginners in the right mindset , If you're interested in an actual sharpening video we have many others on our channel which I would recommend checking out! Thanks for the comment.
@elo0326
@elo0326 Год назад
@@SharpKnifeShop Nah i was waiting for you to show us the stone. This shit is clickbait and i have adhd . thunbs down
@samuel1469
@samuel1469 Год назад
@@elo0326 shouldn’t use adhd as an excuse for being an idiot
@elo0326
@elo0326 Год назад
@@samuel1469 who hurt you 😂
@samuel1469
@samuel1469 Год назад
@@elo0326 could say the same
@bogiebitoy1569
@bogiebitoy1569 3 года назад
Really big help for a 1st time owner of a Japanese knife thanks for the advice.
@Maplecook
@Maplecook 3 года назад
Gage is the Japanese knife guru! The first time fear of sharpening is real yo!!
@fightingusik4265
@fightingusik4265 3 года назад
The most important thing Gage said was, that you really can't screw up beyond repair. Take your time and check often. I tell people to use a red marker on the edge bevel to help see what is happening. But, you'd really have to work to "ruin" a knife.
@cr3atur321
@cr3atur321 3 года назад
I really recommend practising on the crappy knives, even before you buy a new knife. It's a really special feeling when your $5 knife becomes sharper than it was out of the factory and might actually be the sharpest knife in the house. And now, you might not even be in such a rush to spend that $300 on the new laser knife.
@theworldofthelostarts1145
@theworldofthelostarts1145 3 года назад
I ordered 2 king stones and they should arrive any day now! I'm really excited!
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
thank you so much!! Hope you enjoy them, happy sharpening!
@michaelbereny6783
@michaelbereny6783 3 года назад
Great video! I wish I saw this a year ago when I started sharpening my knives. Very informative helping the new people to knife sharpening. Ad yes the dollar store is a great place to start to learn how to sharpen. Easier on the mind to screw up a dollar knife instead of a four hundred dollar knife
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Half the journey in furthering you sharpening skills is fixing the mistakes of the first few tries....we'll at least thats how I learned
@potatorepublic6673
@potatorepublic6673 3 года назад
Thanks, you guys are great! All the knives I have purchased from you have exceeded my expectations!
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@GrantHendrick
@GrantHendrick 3 года назад
Thank you Gage and Jake. A very useful video even for those of us who already started sharpening. Great reminders to take it slowly with long strokes. Also a huge thank you for the cleaver. Excited to put it to work!
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Our pleasure, that things a monster, have fun with it!
@GrantHendrick
@GrantHendrick 3 года назад
We will have a lot of fun with it. I already like the length but the height will be a new experience 😊. My bride is very used to cleavers so it will be interesting to she what she thinks. It is our first blue #2 steel and that will be fun to use. Also the pakka wood is a new handle type for us. Right now we know ho wood so this another new adventure. Again many thank yous!
@davidporciello7607
@davidporciello7607 3 года назад
Gage, as always ... great info! I am one of those in the 1 month category. You are exactly right about being afraid. My knife is still sharp but it's missing that WOW factor. I have sharpened my cheaper knives, but I am afraid to touch my new knives. I guess I will give it a go, if I screw up... I will see you next week.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
There's nothing you can do that we can't fix so don't stress! just watch out for the bevels as repolishing them can be time consuming and it will look good, but never the same! If youre super worried just give it some back strokes for a while on a high grit and see where it leaves you!
@fightingusik4265
@fightingusik4265 3 года назад
Excellent advice! I love sharpening and helping others to learn and it is so easy for new folks to get overwhelmed with the gear starting out. If money is tight, put your money into a good stone and get started! You can build on later.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Well said!
@trevor9606
@trevor9606 3 года назад
I bought my first Japanese knife 5 months ago, been terrified to sharpen it!! I’m attacking it this weekend. Great video, thanks!
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Let us know how it goes/if you have any issues!
@aris8611
@aris8611 Год назад
I'm so glad I watched this. Waiting on my first knife to come in (Yu Kuroskai AO Super Fujin Bunka) and my amazon cart was FULL of bullshit I thought I would need! Starting out with a just a King 1000/6000 combo stone and we'll take it from there.
@Alexandros_Patsialidis
@Alexandros_Patsialidis 4 месяца назад
1st of all: WHO IS THE EDITOR??? He rocks 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
@emieloss7229
@emieloss7229 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, could you help me out with some further tips? I've been sharpening for a couple of years now but I feel like there's still something missing. When I move up through my progression of stones, I also use less and less pressure the higher in grit I get. I usually finish on a 5k or 8k stone. The problem I'm having with the very low pressure polishing is that I sometimes notice myself tilting the blade a little bit diagonal. The sharpening angle is stable, but I'm no longer working on the middle of the stone, but balancing the edge on the side of the stone. I can still get my blades really sharp, but it seems to mess up my edge stability a bit. Would really like to hear some tips to learn and avoid this behavior.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Hey man! Being self aware of the issue is great, it means you're paying attention to the feedback which is important. However if your tilting the knife its possible that you aren't applying enough pressure to the knife on the higher grit stones. We tell people to lighten up and we do as well, but I never press so light that the knife has a chance to tilt off the side of the stones. Try a little more pressure then finish off with a little more time on very slow and steady backstrokes. Let me know if that helps or if you have any more questions!
@Tokeknudsen
@Tokeknudsen 11 месяцев назад
Can anyone tell me if a knifeclip is a good idea in the beginning to keep the right angel?
@NathanNguyen126
@NathanNguyen126 3 года назад
Other than the grit what are the things that you look for in a stone. I've used a variety of different Stones before and the only two differentiating factors I can see a price and how soft the stone is. I found a soft Stone was much easier to sharpen with but it was also much more expensive
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
In my experience harder stones are usually the pricier of the bunch, that being said everyone has their personal preference between soft and hard stones. There will be some minor differences as well which is how close to the actual grit they are, the consistency of the slurry, the size of the stone (both height and weidth/length) but hardness is the biggest factor. While softer stones build a slurry quicker, and therefor seem to cut faster, they also need to be flattened more frequently and wear away quicker so its more of a trade off than an improvement. I prefer medium hardness stones for sharpening and harder stones or polishing bevels, because your stone needs to be dead flat for polishing so less time flattening wins that category.
@etherdog
@etherdog 3 года назад
Nice editing, Jake!
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Thanks Ether!
@rpk2435
@rpk2435 2 года назад
nice!
@clip012
@clip012 Год назад
Strob? I doubt anyone has any newspaper now. What other paper can we use?
@volcomdork665
@volcomdork665 3 года назад
Quick question, you related the duration of time to the stone grit. Your example showed a 1k stone for a months use, but would it be wrong for one to consider the cutting power of your stone vs grit? The reason i bring this up is I use a 3k chosera for anything within two months. Should I be touching it up with a 0.8k stone before I use the 3k?
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
If your knives are in good enough shape to touch up on a 3k I see no issues with this whatsoever. We find for very beginner sharpeners however that it can be difficult to hold a consistent angle for an extended period of time so using a quicker cutting stone will heed better results. But I very frequently spend a little longer than I need to on just the 5k to touch up my knives and while it isnt the most time efficient it works just as well if you can be consistent over the longer period of time.
@volcomdork665
@volcomdork665 3 года назад
Awesome thank you for the info!
@biscuitkitchentreviews
@biscuitkitchentreviews 3 года назад
A good cheap option for a sharpening pond is using a silicone dog good mat with a lip. works wonderfully and keeps all the grit and mess contained.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Thats a great tip!
@ssiigguurrddhhuu
@ssiigguurrddhhuu 3 года назад
Nice to see some good ol' Teruyasu Fujiwara knives in the cameras view. My personal favourite blacksmith/group of artisans. Have you just recently started selling them or have they just not been in the frame of the cameras before now?
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
We carry them when we can get our hands on them! I've been eyeing a 210 Yo Gyuto to come home with me one of these days
@ssiigguurrddhhuu
@ssiigguurrddhhuu 3 года назад
I would highly recommend that you give it a try. I am super happy with my 240 nashiji gyuto (and 135 nashiji petty) with wa handle. It was actually a 210 maboroshi yo gyuto my father had bought that turned me on to TF in the first place. I love the perfectly imperfect finish on that knife. It has more character than any knife I've seen since. Not to mention the quality and heat treatment of the shirlgami #1 of course 😁😉
@SurvivorStory
@SurvivorStory 3 года назад
Thanks! I was surprised to get awesome results from my first try at sharpening my steak knives! They were crazy dull and all I have are my 800 & 3000 grit stones. I also played around with a nice thick piece of leather that’s about the size of a stone. My question is I thought you have to lay the knife flat to thin the secondary edge? Is that wrong. I was actually trying to get the scratches off the steak knives and all it did was make them cosmetically worse but hey, they cut steak like Budda now!
@MultiBamb00cha
@MultiBamb00cha 3 года назад
I wouldn't worry about thinning the secondary bevels when you are just a beginner. It is something that helps the overall cutting feel of the knife, doesn't effect sharpness per say. Thinner blade just slides through a bit better than a thicker wedge. But if this is a relatively new knife that hadn't been used and sharpened away for months/years, it should still be thin enough behind the edge for this to not be a problem at all. And the scratches you formed on the side of the blade are kinda tough to remove. The best, yet quite tidious way would be to use progressively finer and finer sand paper moving in a single direction along the blade, starting quite rough and going finer, possibly into some fine grit paste. Or, you could just call those scratches 'knife's personal character' and leave them there 😄
@SurvivorStory
@SurvivorStory 3 года назад
@@MultiBamb00cha oh wow, and I thought if I kept at it I could buff off the scratches. It’s totally fine cuz they cut great and that’s way more important than the “character” they now have. Great lesson and thanks for the lesson!
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
You beat me to it and said everything I was gunna say!
@gregorybupp
@gregorybupp 3 года назад
Regarding your "use" chart, how much use is that per day in a week/month/etc?
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 2 года назад
so sorry for the late reply! Our chart assumes you're using your knife daily for about 30 mins (more for home cooks) If you're a professional using your knife more regularly, 2-3 hours of chopping a day, I would move all the times lines up a stone, So after a week in a pro kitchen you'll likely need to use a 1000 grit stone to get it sharp.
@lsamoa
@lsamoa 3 месяца назад
@@SharpKnifeShop Where can we find this chart please?
@jason760
@jason760 3 года назад
Great Video as always! Too Bad it just dropped since I sharpened the first time today.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Well, how did it go?!
@jason760
@jason760 3 года назад
@@SharpKnifeShop pretty good actually! I started off with an old Zwilling Santoku instead of my first and until now only japanese knife and I actually managed to get it really sharp. It passed the tomato test with a solid B I'd say. I shredded through some cabbage with it today and the only problem I have now is that the first third is fairly dull again now. Should I just touch it up on the 6k side of my 1k/6k stone? I tried to strop it on newspaper after I sharpened it yesterday and somehow it felt way less sharp after that. Did I maybe mess that up?
@ijtl999
@ijtl999 3 года назад
Thanos: I used the stones to *destroy* the stones Gage: I used the stones to *flatten* the stones
@hoggif
@hoggif 2 года назад
I think flattening stone is almost manditorhy unless you select very hard (non-dishing) stones or in the very beginning. Flat stones are sometimes a must (like with razors) and always a lot easier. A quality stone is about $50 or more, skimping on $20 flattening stone is not worth it. Sure, you can play with sandpaper, sidewalk or whatever but it is just too much work do do regularly. I started with cheapo stones way back and I'd for sure select any quality stone if I was starting again. Any Naniwa, Sigma, Suehiro, King or whatever 1k stone is much better than a cheapo 1k, 3k 5k al together.
@SaraNWong-cw2hj
@SaraNWong-cw2hj 2 года назад
Love this, "unless you touch your knife to the stone you aren't going to learn anything of value" lol.
@BigSteve93015
@BigSteve93015 3 года назад
Gage, steel or ceramic honing rod for Japanese knives? Recommendations welcome. Perhaps you sponsor will weigh in on this subject lol...
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Hey Steve, always ceramic on Japanese! You want the material of the hone to be harder than what you're honing. Steel rods can be used very gently in a pinch but the knives being so much harder can bite into them and chip!
@jchan0425
@jchan0425 3 года назад
Is it advisable to hon a high carbon?
@jchan0425
@jchan0425 3 года назад
@@kroodle8 i thought as much
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
Im unsure what you mean, if the knife is high carbon absolutely hone it, hone any knife. If the honing rod is a high carbon I cant say Ive ever used one of those before but I prefer ceramic rods to any steel ones Ive ever used.
@jchan0425
@jchan0425 3 года назад
@@SharpKnifeShop honing with honing stick was what I was asking. Sometime ago when I bought my first knife. The guy told me honing stick increases chances of chipping, due to the nature of the material, especially ceramic. He also explained that high carbon’s edge don’t “bend” like stainless steel. (Honing steel was designed to “straighten” stainless steel bevel). Using honing stick is counter productive. He suggested strop or polish stone if I have to do touch ups.
@richardd-nz
@richardd-nz 2 года назад
Hey mate, I've been practicing on a 1000 grit stone with my super cheapo Daiso knives. I'm finding my angles look pretty consistent using the sharpie method, however its showing me that im not really taking much off the heel. I find I get a burr all the way down the blade aside from the last 1 inch or so, but I feel like im doing the same number of strokes and angles at the heel. Not sure what's going on. Also, this Daiso knife is absolute garbage, it takes about 20 mins to get a burr on a 1000 grit stone.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 2 года назад
You need to go down to a lower grit, especially on cheap soft knives. The grind is often quite bad towards the heel on cheaper knives as well, and most people use the heel of a knife either more, or more roughly so it could be that it takes a little more love to bring that part back. Im sure a quick couple passes on a 220 or 320 would melt away material and form a quick burr from tip to heel!
@user-rz3ri6ve2q
@user-rz3ri6ve2q Год назад
Hi.i Have cerax 1000 i Sharpening hours but without success. I would be very happy if you could help me.
@jchan0425
@jchan0425 3 года назад
本刃付???
@theworldofthelostarts1145
@theworldofthelostarts1145 3 года назад
First!
@theworldofthelostarts1145
@theworldofthelostarts1145 3 года назад
Im normally not a first called but i couldn't resist...
@jeffmacrae4633
@jeffmacrae4633 3 года назад
Great starting point for people new to sharpening!
@junior90210
@junior90210 2 года назад
To be honest, who would though I'll be learning how to sharpen a knife from Jesse Pinkman.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 2 года назад
Stay sharp, bitch
@overthehillsandfaraway7104
@overthehillsandfaraway7104 3 года назад
i use king 1k brick and 6k. never needed lower grit for anything last 5 years, my knives are vg10 tojiros , shirogami tojiros, and goko hamonos.
@SharpKnifeShop
@SharpKnifeShop 3 года назад
You may want something a little more coarse for when it comes time to thin, but otherwise if you take good care of/sharpen often enough you don't need to go any lower!
@David-ox2fr
@David-ox2fr 2 месяца назад
A lot of yapping and nothing shown
@_gatsby
@_gatsby Год назад
bruh.. you never showed me how to sharpen a knife.. i literally learned nothing in 8 minutes.. ugh
@azherhussain7361
@azherhussain7361 3 года назад
Too much talk less work
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