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yoooooo, can i ask u a question? can i pls know where did you get your sources for the legend saying that Qin Shi Huang had a secret male lover? i did a bit of research on Qin Shi Huang and found nothing, and i also tried finding some info on Jido/Peng Zu and only found this: “Jidō was a boy who served Emperor Mu of the Zhou dynasty in ancient China. One day, he committed an offense by stepping over the emperor’s headrest. So severe was this offense that he barely escaped being put to death. He was driven from the court and banished to Mount Rekken. Feeling pity for the boy, Emperor Mu secretly gave him a headrest upon which he had written two verses from the Lotus Sutra and he taught him to recite these verses and pray every morning." ...blablabla etc... its from “Jidō of the Chrysanthemum” (Kiku-Jidō) :3 just asking...... :/ maybe im wrong idk............ :C
The more we look at history, the more we learn that abusing children for adult gratification is not an isolated thing but something deeply insidious to all mankind.
TFW you’re the son of an aristocrat in feudal Japan and your dad just got you an internship at the local temple (You didn’t know this is the start of your villain arc) 😔
Imagine Siddhartha Gautama seeing what his self-help religion/philosophy eventually evolved into. NGL, he'd probably be disappointed, but never mad. Succumbing to that sort of thing is beyond him.
@@Darkgeranium127Boy scouts is a youth group kids can join to earn badges for different thing like camping, volunteering, and teamwork. There are boy scouts and girl scouts. Boy scouts sell popcorn and girl scouts sell cookies to learn financial literacy, business skills, and responsibility.
Cause & effect reversal--it's not that leaving your kids with priests (or etc) causes them to be molested. It's that molesters seek positions of power where they'll have the chance to abuse kids...or sometimes, to abuse anyone, and kids are just the most convenient.
Just like about every religious charge that implies trying to refuse the human condition, they just end up using any substitute that their authority can keep hidden
@@Nicole-kc1vx it must be the result of not being around women for most of your life. Young boys are unfortunately the closest thing to women in the mind of a desperate man.
@@shawn6796 You could say the same thing about public schools, Boy Scouts, youth sports, etc., turns out when you put people in positions of authority, some people are going to abuse that authority, which if anything is a point in support of sin being a thing that exists, but I digress.
@@allthenewsordeath5772 But this one is different, the abuse in this case is fully institutionalized, way more than just some rando breaking the rules.
I like the part when you mentioned that the boys misbehaved and were still as rowdy as any child today. It shows they still rebelled in spite of the various forms of abuse. It shows that their acting out might have been a way to get some amount of power here. They raised as much hell as a child can in an abusive environment. And it shows that today's children not getting worse- children were always little terrors. Ours are not stealing real swords to play with.
I don’t find it’s “children” being terrors and acting out is different than the Orwellian notion of becoming brainwashed into WWII Hitler Youth that rat out (turn on) their own parents for social status points and so forth. I pity parents today who’ve fallen into these cults.
that's the most intriguing (as much as disturbing) aspect here. Another reminder that humans across world and time don't have to perceive same things in the same way, no matter what. I wonder, however, what was the perception of this among the common people - if there's any source out there about it.
Hmm, definitely a way to demonstrate 'status'. Status can be embodied in so many 'strange' or even what is generally considered 'abnormal' behaviours and objects There is a whole thesis in psychology here 🙃
Sex doesn't always mean love, people can pursue and have sex with someone they don't respect or even hate. It's unfortunate but true and more common than one thinks.
It's not unfortunate- If you wanna have consensual fun just for the fun of it and move on nothing is wrong with that. Though obviously the word "consensual" involves both parties being of age, which yeah, does not happen here.
@@carlosandleon I know that there were different standards throughout history, if these people were to be revived it would not be fair to put them in prison or something because in their time this bs was normalised, but it is completely undeniable that those acts were atrocious and objectively horrible and wrong. It wasn't just about the age, but also the fact that the act was completely non-consensual, the students were forced to do it because their masters had complete authority over them, which probably completely messed those kids up mentally and inflicted and incredible amount of pain on them. I'm aware that society back then was fucked up like that, but that doesn't make it any less fucked up.
@@helion_ut You can’t say there were different moral standards across history and then go on to say it’s objectively wrong. Hell the average American will think europe is “objectively” wrong since age of consent in many countries is 16 over there regardless of the age gap. In modern japan it’s even 12 - and that’s modern day.
@@carlosandleon Dude. I don't know where you are going with your argumentation and I don't want to know. My point is: In those societies atroceties were normalised. That doesn't mean they are not atrocities. That is what cults do, they try to create these secluded societies in which horrible acts are normalised. That doesn't suddenly make these acts just okay. The exact age of consent or exact kind of relationships that should be disallowed for a certain amount of time can vary - I'm no expert in that field, but as long as studies show that it does not have a high chance of harming you anymore, it's acceptable. Also just to debunk some information about Europe because I'm an actual european person (from germany, to be exact): This whole thing about or ages of consent being incredibly low is bs for two reasons. 1. With age of consent we don't mean the exact same thing as americans. There is this misconception that the aoc in germany is 14, aka that you can legally do the deed with a 14 year old as an adult. No, you can't, you will go straight to prison. Age of consent for us usually means "Age from which you can legally have sex". As a 14 year old you can legally do the deed with other minors above the age of 14, but NOT with adults. You can legally do it with adults only once you are an adult (Or have a difference of at max two years because obviously it's okay for a 18 and 17 year old to be together). This counts for lots of european countries simply because we mean something slightly else with "age of consent". 2. Just because something is technically legal doesn't mean it's socially acceptable or considered normal. Poland has an age of consent of 15, as in, from the age of 15 on you can have sex with people of any ages. That is NOT socially acceptable, though. Many eastern europe countries suffer from aged judical systems, but society is still progressed. If an adult openly has a relationship with a 15 year old in Poland they will be extremely frowned upon. And called a p-phile. Laws are not necessarily what determine what a society generally sees as morally acceptable. At all.
No, that's what some animals in nature do. And we, humans, deep down at our cores are practically still animal beings too. It's purely an instinctually driven behaviour, without even a drop of rationality or consciousness consisting in it. It's animalistic in nature. I believe that only would be achievable if we could find a way to remove the carnal instinct off a human being entirely, without leaving behind even a tiniest trail of it in the brain. I don't know how exactly the humanity could reach to that level of progress in science and technology, but I hope the future generations could find a cure to kiddin tingling.
Castration isn't a thing (also being an animal isn't an excuse, we're still smart enough to know it's bad and simply choose the right action. We aren't robots)
@@KawaiiHamsteruwubean69 I wasn't excusing them, I was comparing them to a wild animal. And animals that are ***ually aggressive towards other animals usually tend to get fixed by people, so why not do the same to humans?
@@Ктоя-ь1м A lot of animals also don't have those instincts as for reproductive reasons it doesn't make sense to try and breed with a member of the same species incapable of having or taking care of offspring, not all animals have the same instincts, and humans tend to...well not be attracted to younger humans, if you analyze history it all points that it has to do more with positions of power and the need to control others (as children are easy to control and abuse), that's why most of this kinds off things seem to be mostly done by men, because they used to (and sometimes still) have the position and power to do that sort of thing, an instinct is something more species based rather than individual based so it doesn't make sense to call an instinct something that only a few members of a species do (members that lack the ability to reproduce or bring something good to the rest of the species.)
It's a systematic problem. It's easy for us to say, as people with freedom to choose what we do and understanding. Don't forget that not so long ago, slavery was considered a normal thing. All the "religions", from Christianity to Buddhism, consider celibacy to be some sort of virtue and strictly control exposure to knowledge. Kings and queens also preferred pacifist yes men to be priests, so that their rule could be legitimised. What happens when s3xually repressed, poorly educated old men with large egos come to be in charge of everything? Well, you can imagine. It's like saying "can't people just...NOT commit crime". If everyone was capable of such self control, we would be in paradise. Religious superstition, political authority and general neglect enabled, and continues to enable, the abuse of children. It's when you take profoundly mediocre old men and tell them they're special, be they priests or celebrities.
Sexual gratification at the cost of a childs innocence is one of the worst things a person can do. The offenders life should be forfeit. And dont give me that "it was a different time, then." We dont accept the racism of the past, so why would we accept something so evil, ever?
Pederasty was criticized back then too. The Greeks did it, but not everyone condoned it. Christians were vehemently against it for example. So, yeah, it was not universally accepted even back then, wich means it should be criticized like anything else
@@hermescarraro3393are you stupid? Your christian god impregnated mary at 12 years old, and in parts of the bible like NUMBERS your got explicitly advocated for child rape of the enemies of the jews 😂😂😂
This gives me flashbacks of my college classes in which the phase "Buddhist Catamite" was in our textbook... and the few of us who did our homework (which meant looking at the word in the dictionary) were horrified. The slackers passed through the next few classes in ignorant bliss.
I remember one time a frind of mine thought about taking one of my books to read with here nephews (they spend their former years in English speaking countries, me and she are not , I have a lot of fantasy books in English because fantasy is relatively unpopular here) and I was like "do you want to explain ti your 10yo nephew what is a catemite ?!?!"
This is so sad and evil. 😢😢 Something similar happened in Ancient Greece, to the point where parents wanted guards to be present when boys studied with their tutors because it was well known what the men often did to their young students. 😢😢😢😢😢
@@Serjo777You only claim it's neither because you yourself are both. You & all your fellow Eps Islanders will get exactly what you deserve. It's only a matter of time.
The fact that it has its own ceremony is just so disgusting 😭 so the higher ones than the priests either supports it or doesnt know or probably gaslighted and lied to
It's ironic how apprentices and monks slept together, considering that in India, where buddhism originated, if a student/apprentice slept with his master ,classmate or his master's wife , it was considered nearly as bad as incest( although he could marry his teacher's daughter with his permission) Edit: Wow. Looking at the replies to this all I have to say is while India I'd definately not the best country, y'all seriously need to check where you get your archaic knowledge on Indian affairs from
@@ditalotlNah, in India people would lynch anyone doing that ( because of our tradition of seeing teacher and student like father and son). But if the documentary was about a cult, then maybe. We have way too many modern spiritual and political cults (although they keep a low profile unlike cults elsewhere in the world )
@@Vajrasattvam Sorry, my bad! I managed to find the video I was referring to, and it was indeed about Tibet, and not India! It seems like I remembered it wrong, so sorry for the confusion 👍
@@Vajrasattvam Are you seriously suggesting that pederasty doesn't happen in India? Almost a third (28.9%) of Indian children experience CSA and 90% of the reports involve a family member, so being "nearly as bad as incest" isn't saying much. Both of these numbers are from the Ministry for Women and Child Development and were reported on India Today last year.
My favorite part of the video is working in the commercial for the Japanese snacks with the master keeping the snacks for himself since he's teaching the student self denial but then the kid calls the pedo squad on him and gets the snacks. Nice
Its so ironic how human kind is totally down to use any excuse to bring pleasure(of any kind) to itself even if its a child in question of same or other species with excuse of any sort even if its a belive they carry (which might go against every moral value they have studied but still would find a way to make it right). Man thats depressing and irritating. Kudos to your hardwork and thanks for a great video~
@@sakura-dante9059 pride doesnt lead to lust, lust is an animal instinct. Not sure if flies posess pride but they still have sex... And people with low self esteem can still have a high sex drive. Pride can actually be healthy (but also unhealthy) and the least harmful of the sins: simply having good self esteem and being proud of your accomplisments, thats a good thing in itself. Its when you start to devalue and putting others down it becomes bad
7:25 I would not be surprised if the 7 foot rule was just simply how far a master could reach with his staff. If he can hit you, you're too close, and you know would...
The apostle Paul himself actually calls this practice out for the abomination it is in one book of the new testament; unfortunately it's usually been mistranslated as him criticizing gay sex as a general concept.
its so sad that that a lot of young girls and boys were easily ab4sed and it was seen as acceptable. like large age gap marriages or teacher student stuff like this monk. its so gross. im happy things are changing for the better and we recongise kids and teens are not adults and should not be s3xually abused by adults or married off at young ages. they need time to develop and grow into adults. and ab4sing them will never lead them to that. it only creates a cycle of trauma. ofc that doesnt mean this was happeing in all countries or normalised in all cultures, but it sure seems like a lot of them.
11:04 made me spit my drink! The idea of a kid just breaking into your room swinging a sword around like a mad man is one thing, that it was so common that people were getting annoyed with it is hilarious to me.
While glancing through my Royall Tyler collection of Japanese tales I came upon a story about a monk who finds another monk in the mountain. The mountain monk had reached Satori, or near enough that he was attended by "Celestial boys" that were said to be "beautiful". When I first read this story years ago I thought it was just a detail to show how holy they were. Now I think that story is a horror story parading as a story about Enlightenment. Thanks for that.
Was there any monks that stood against those practice and denounced them as "anti-buddhist" or something ? I know Greece had a similar system of master and apprentice that could often devolve into "love" relationship but not everyone approved of those relationship and some even wrote and complained about it
“They were interested in their religion, like they were interested in their paint, or watching taxes dry” I don’t know why that tickled me so much lmao 🤣
“All that advise about working hard? It went in one year and out the ass” You remind me of my 10th grade history teacher. Dude used comedy and humor as a teaching style and to this day I miss that man…. Chigo misses his master
The way you go ham on these subjects is GENIUS, and so simple. Thanks for cutting through the dogma and getting down to business. I love your channel! 💖
So it's like a Catholic boarding school. Rich influential parents ship off their wayward sons to be disciplined only for them to act out even more. And then you have your pious students that take the religion seriously. And then of course, the poor souls who fell victim to the abuse.
Another masterful Linfamy video demonstrating in spite of all of whatever high-falootin' socio-philosphical-religious traditions we develop, at the end of the day we're all too human for good or for ill.
Religions existed as a way to lay down and idea or I guess guidelines for people to make sense of the world around us. But, some people don't like change, or maybe those in the past with religion had an overall great experience with it so we passed down these teachings. Until books, computers, and now Internet is now a thing to keep all information. Religion helped make sense of the world, but now we know better thanks to the ability to pass down knowledge. Our past experiences and knowledge don't get passed down to our kids so, for a very long time everything was always "new." I'm sure there's a video out there somewhere that talks about how the now growing population is smarter now thanks to the internet.
@@utkarshsingh-rp2dq the teaching is good and straight to nirvana, but the one who follow is all kind of trouble. Most of the monk do a bunch of justification to get giddy with the young'un, it's nasty stuff but that's just the way they did it. Like liking femboy cuz they look cute and breedable, it's not that the monk is gay (Kinda) stuff but imagine you in prison and that one lad just got in and looking meaty. Yep.... Crazy
Ohhhhh There's a restaurant in Wyoming that serves chocolate cake with a gold foil squares placed on top. Sushi would be much harder to do. °~•.☆.•~° I've never had the cake 🥺
Unfortunately, being seen as a moral and spiritual authority figure makes it easy for terrible people to abuse their position of trust. The easiest way to test a person's true character is to give them a position of authority and see what they do to the people they have authority over.
Every religion was /is used for evil. I think most religions are cool in theory (and I the kindest people are like, in the middle religion /no religion wise ) but every religion was used to abuse
Find one that fits you. Organised religion, though? With their power structure? Well, positions of power attracts those who crave it, who wants to use it against others. The presence of those kind of people are kinda unavoidable once any structure gets large enough, whether secular or religious.
That's why I love Kannon, he preached the same truth of easy enlightenment. The proof is in the pudding 😌. Really, go to a Bon Dance instead of a monastery. Good video Lin. Namo Amida Butsu 🙏
I did some research on this after reading the manga "dead man wonderland" because there is a character in that manga who is a nihilistic murderous psychotic monk, and a big part of why he became that way is because he suffered heavy physical and s abuse as a child from the older monks; it was the first time I really stopped to think about the fact that just like with catholic priests who are surrounded by altar boys the Buddhist and shinto monks are also celibate and surrounded by young apprentices and the horrible implications came to mind. I did some reading on the matter and it turns out yes, this kind of thing has never been restricted to the catholic church only, basically any situation in which children are placed under the care and orders of adults 24/7 runs an extremely high risk of developing into an abuse situation, so yeah, never send your kids to school, church retreat, summer camp, boarding schools, military schools, boy scouts or Buddhist temples/ Indian ashrams if you don't want their chances of getting molested to increase by quite a bit.
Why is this so similar to Christian Priests? Unfortunately, it's still happening today, that's why many people in Germany left the church (Also to avoid paying church taxes)
No,noo. Don't. 😢Aang, monk gyatso they are more bhutan background. The way i view it, Buddhism there are more strict, not to mixed up with Chinese emperor thingies, displine and well behaved.
Being from an Esoteric subsect of Buddhism that is more focused on the philosophical side of things rather than theological tradition? I think more people should know about this stuff. Among other things. Because I think it's sort of unfair that Christians(Catholics in particular) have the big market cornered on getting ridiculed because of the questionable morality amongst their clergy. I strive to remain critical of all faith, including my own.
