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Japanese Wife DESTROYS ALL of My Hiragana【So YOU can improve】 

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My Japanese handwriting is bad. My English handwriting is bad. My wife is going to destroy the former.
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Edit: ‪@Come2Japan‬
Translation and Subtitles: ‪@Come2Japan‬
0:00 Intro
0:38 あいうえお
13:47 かきくけこ
24:35 さしすせそ
33:09 たちつてと
39:52 なにぬねの
49:50 はひふへほ
59:08 まみむめも
1:06:09 やゆよ
1:12:53 らりるれろ
1:20:53 わをん

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@garyc6183
@garyc6183 27 дней назад
I used to worry about making my characters perfect until I started to see things written by native Japanese.
@serenityssolace
@serenityssolace 25 дней назад
Same 😂
@shenglongisback4688
@shenglongisback4688 25 дней назад
After living there I agree, It's like writing in english everybody don't write it the same.😂
@sparkymularkey6970
@sparkymularkey6970 25 дней назад
Exactly! I started going on Pixiv and reading fan comics and looking at the handwritten text. It was so eye-opening!
@cyjico
@cyjico 24 дня назад
i saw a vtuber with bad handwriting I struggled reading it lol
@WaterYaDune
@WaterYaDune 24 дня назад
I have terrible English handwriting, might as well double down and be awful in Japanese too
@spacehoppity3127
@spacehoppity3127 25 дней назад
Lessons with an actual Japanese native with full subtitles in both English and Japanese is incredible! Keep it up!
@elmomierz
@elmomierz 29 дней назад
Holy thumbnail
@eden22.7
@eden22.7 29 дней назад
Obsessed with thumbnail and title
@MichaelJacksonJr
@MichaelJacksonJr 28 дней назад
😂
@Andy_0L
@Andy_0L 28 дней назад
Accurate
@RT-qd8yl
@RT-qd8yl 26 дней назад
Did anyone else glance at it and think she was shooting two french breads out of her eyes
@salsuh
@salsuh 21 день назад
yessir
@NikkiDimesYT
@NikkiDimesYT 29 дней назад
Hiragana lesson and listening practice in one video? Let's goooo
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 29 дней назад
一石二鳥!
@NikkiDimesYT
@NikkiDimesYT 28 дней назад
@@ToKiniAndy And learning a new idiom?!?
@reedwalker8230
@reedwalker8230 Час назад
@@NikkiDimesYT killing three birds with one stone!
@nmitsthefish
@nmitsthefish 28 дней назад
I've been learning Japanese for just over a year now, and had no idea how necessary this video was for me. Way better than those videos that draw each kana one after another. This is how you fix mistakes
@Andy_0L
@Andy_0L 28 дней назад
True
@RLC-London
@RLC-London 23 дня назад
Indeed - and like any classroom, there's always that sacrificial kid on hand to provide an example of 'what not do' not to mention the entertainment value they bring! Aghh, who am I kidding, it was me - I was that kid...🤓
@10second_rice_2
@10second_rice_2 20 дней назад
As a native Japanese, now I can confirm that he can write Hiragana way better than me
@PeterLiuIsBeast
@PeterLiuIsBeast 26 дней назад
Its easy to remember the stroke order for や when you realized that its a simplified cursive version of 也 (not a 常用 but is a component of characters like 地 and 池)
@giuseppeagresta1425
@giuseppeagresta1425 8 дней назад
Thank you, it's quite useful
@drakebrasfield1044
@drakebrasfield1044 20 дней назад
You just gotta remember this is all originally written for Paint Brushes. So imagine you pen as a paint brush and it helps
@timecarpet
@timecarpet 7 дней назад
Does it?
@Zorgot.
@Zorgot. 4 дня назад
@@timecarpet yeah
@timecarpet
@timecarpet 4 дня назад
​@Zorgot. Well it does explain why stroke order is so important
@shi_no_kurai_kage
@shi_no_kurai_kage 28 дней назад
My い describes my personality very angular and rebellious and angry
@jbracara
@jbracara День назад
bro
@MidosujiSen
@MidosujiSen 24 дня назад
54:00 Yuki must have a super artistic mind if she was able to immediately see a guy bowling in that ふ haha
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 23 дня назад
This was apparently a meme here in Japan back when she was in high school. 😆
@srslysic
@srslysic 24 дня назад
I think the different ways how each of you hold/grip the pen really makes a difference as well. A very insightful and interesting video overall. Thank you both!
@milinpatel912
@milinpatel912 22 дня назад
21:30 ehh wait minute! Horizontal line on け is actually going in downward direction.. mine was like Andy's one going in upward direction.. Thanks Yuki for this! It makes sense it to be downward as it'd make circle properly.. got it got it! Thanks!
@ryanallen2001
@ryanallen2001 28 дней назад
ゴジラゆきが怖いですね! EDIT: WOW that tip about か where the second and third strokes look like ハ is really great. I instantly got much better at writing it!
@divine.frequencies
@divine.frequencies 29 дней назад
W😲W Yuki is an awesome help🤩 I learnt from comments also. I hope she helps more often🌟 Thank you both😊
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 29 дней назад
I'm glad to hear that you found it helpful. 😊
@francesbell4386
@francesbell4386 27 дней назад
This is brilliant. So helpful.
@_hiroprotagonist
@_hiroprotagonist 10 дней назад
this has helped so much. Thanks!
@bornfromcinders
@bornfromcinders 28 дней назад
So helpful, especially about the linking strokes ideas... also helps to understand reading native scribble hiragana which can be hard. I would love a Katakana one!
@sandrabrauer4664
@sandrabrauer4664 4 дня назад
This really helped. Would love to see more videos like this. Arigato ❤
@laurashi868
@laurashi868 День назад
Love your videos!!! The course has been helping out a lot, I’ve been enjoying it so much 😊😊
@joce3553
@joce3553 28 дней назад
aw i love when yuki joins, this was a fun video :3
@jordandamron3769
@jordandamron3769 28 дней назад
Always nice to see Yuki in a video!
@Gamercat01
@Gamercat01 8 дней назад
This was really useful to practice writing along with. Thank you.🙏
@CamperRage
@CamperRage 29 дней назад
Ahh, while doing the Genki workbook practices, I've just been winging how the hiragana, katakana, and kanji are supposed to look based on computer fonts. This video will be quite helpful to me going forward, thank ya!
@camillarose7238
@camillarose7238 5 дней назад
You should look up stroke order
@shi_t-at-games
@shi_t-at-games 28 дней назад
it's always a good day when tokini sensei uploads
@nijinokanata111
@nijinokanata111 29 дней назад
This was extremely helpful! I'm always getting marks off for stroke order! ありがとうございます!
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 29 дней назад
Glad to hear you found it useful!
@BennyKravitz23
@BennyKravitz23 28 дней назад
Started to learn Japanese this weekend. This will be helpful, thanks.
@ArturReiss
@ArturReiss 24 дня назад
Learned to write in hiragana thanks to this video, very helpful!!
@japanesenovice
@japanesenovice 20 часов назад
Thank you so much for this video Andy San and thank you to your wife, Yuki San! With this, I have a specific reference to my daily hiragana practice(I was having trouble between choosing textbook/font or calligraphy-esque and why some characters are shaped the way they do)! Looking forward to your katakana video next!
@droojohnson
@droojohnson 21 день назад
THIS IS SO USEFUL
@O7ghostX
@O7ghostX 22 дня назад
I think this is one of the most helpful video for writing! But then again there are so many different types of writing!
@yvesrosenberg
@yvesrosenberg 26 дней назад
This is a great idea. Very illustrated. 👍 ---- 💙
@hydrocynic
@hydrocynic 28 дней назад
This is awesome!! I'm currently studying Japanese and this was fun to watch, I really struggled writing あ when I was learning how to write it, lol.
@KyushuTrail
@KyushuTrail 9 дней назад
Nice video idea! It was really fun
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 9 дней назад
Glad you liked it! 😊
@1010papillon
@1010papillon 9 дней назад
@@ToKiniAndy Is there / will there be a katakana version of this?
@shikaman
@shikaman 25 дней назад
Thanks a lot this was really helpful ! Looking forward to a Katakana version of this video ! Also, in addition, i'd love to see Yuki's "speedy" "unfocused" "regular" handwriting style !
@Daniel-tg8cf
@Daniel-tg8cf 25 дней назад
Great Video and great tips as well! My handwriting improved :D
@cyjico
@cyjico 24 дня назад
ooh might write along with you guys as well. katakana would be nice as well for next video
@SweetDragoncandy
@SweetDragoncandy 26 дней назад
I wish you guys were my teachers here at university.. so helpful!!
@_KondoIsami_
@_KondoIsami_ 22 дня назад
Basically you have to keep in mind the way the stroke moves to understand how they connect The い has that little curve in the bottom because you can go up and connect to the top of the next portion of it, similarly the き has a style were the bottom curve disconnects, this disconnection in some styles happen because they imitate how with a brush its easy to naturally disconnect. Regardless of style the important is to remember the stoke order and keep in mind that the order is not random, it's there because you need to move to the next part in a certain way, the stroke order is there to enforce the flow which helps your calligraphy and keep people from making things too weird.
@lanny007
@lanny007 11 дней назад
the cuts and sharper angles are pretty smart. it gives you more control. rounder strokes tend to get exaggerated and throws off the balance.. its perfect!!!
@SanctionXV
@SanctionXV 28 дней назад
This was a really interesting! I am currently at language school and the first set of teachers with き、さ、ち were very big on making sure the loops were not connected. the next semester, I got marked wrong on all of those for not connecting them. So it is interesting to see this process and Yuki's criticism and tips!
@Yotanido
@Yotanido 27 дней назад
I don't think I have ever seen a ち that wasn't connected. For き and さ I have seen both, but unconnected seems far more common.
@SanctionXV
@SanctionXV 27 дней назад
@@Yotanido Interesting! My first group of teachers said either was fine, but the connected was the “old way” and the teacher that marked me for not connecting was older 🤔
@Neptoid
@Neptoid 25 дней назад
So foreigners write the characters like a font while natives are taught to write in calligraphic style
@freidrichvonleibneifferdie3820
@freidrichvonleibneifferdie3820 25 дней назад
Kana is based on cursive kanji. They are supposed to be rounded and "calligraphic" even in fonts
@Neptoid
@Neptoid 25 дней назад
@@freidrichvonleibneifferdie3820 You might have seen that the westerner used variants that had different skeleton and parts of the letter which she didn't use (such as 'fully' connected hiragana ki). So it isn't just about the proportions or rounding of the letters. Or straights or curves. She consistently interpreted them as cute or especially cute, which might be because font-like characters are more rounded and wide than usual. The fonty vs actual handwriting distinction became very useful for them (see 23:14 for example), the purpose of my comment was to highlight the distinction they used and to show that westerners probably had the same learning path from fonts and not handwriting or things in a more calligraphic style. A calligraphic style usually refers to handwriting or effects from stress (angle from writing element), varying pressure and stroke thickness, or artifacts from a brush
@oac7184
@oac7184 29 дней назад
Pretty awesome 😅 I will have follow along with my own
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 29 дней назад
I hope it helps!
@hazeltaylor7321
@hazeltaylor7321 26 дней назад
I really enjoyed this video, I learnt a lot and it was nice to listen to Yukie speak and to pick out words I knew. I also learnt I am rubbish at fu, but great at ya. Please do the same with Katakana, as I am sure it will be just as great.
@kaiolowen5788
@kaiolowen5788 22 дня назад
former art major here. i have terrible english handwriting, but i LOVED learning hiragana/katakana and practiced it like crazy. it was too late for english for me but decided to try to make my kana at least legible. All i ever wanted was my japanese teacher to praise my writing :D:D
@cargath
@cargath 18 дней назад
I've always had trouble with the curvy ones, this actually helped a lot, thanks! Also, i've been making the same mistake with も, despite having the stroke order right there on the back of the Anki card xD
@Mikelaxo
@Mikelaxo 28 дней назад
nice tips, but I'm probably gonna keep doing some of the of them my way, cause I've grown to like how I do them
@sorattenii1520
@sorattenii1520 15 дней назад
that was so useful and practical, thank you so much T-T can you please do with katakana too ?
@semifluffy
@semifluffy 20 часов назад
すごい
@amytheorangutan
@amytheorangutan 28 дней назад
Oh thank you! I really want to improve my handwriting. Also hoping you would do kanji handwriting exercise at some point because my kanji looks very childish and disproportionate some characters look like multiple characters when I write it because of how disconnected and disproportionate they are 😭
@PoluxYT
@PoluxYT 28 дней назад
I think the characters I mess up the most are か、そ、ひ、ふ and ら. Definetely improved after the video, at least they look less like a computer font 😁. And now I feel confident that my い and り can be told apart!
@AzureXenon
@AzureXenon 25 дней назад
You two seem to have lovely chemistry.
@britty23
@britty23 29 дней назад
This was so helpful! Please do katakana next! 😄
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 29 дней назад
Thank you @britty23!
@hiromiokazaki
@hiromiokazaki 26 дней назад
毛筆を習ってるとゆきさんの言ってることがよくわかる。小学生が使ってる四マスのノートを使って欲しくなる😂
@LearningArt-gg5ex
@LearningArt-gg5ex 22 дня назад
小学生が使ってる漢字のノートが使って見たいと思います
@moneer6268
@moneer6268 26 дней назад
I usually have problems with the katakana bcz it has the smiling face things and the differences is unnoticeable
@anjuro
@anjuro 28 дней назад
Imagine if her elementary school teacher just randomly sees this video and posts a comment "Jiiiiiii" XD I wouldn't be able to sleep after that.
@gabriel.fagundes
@gabriel.fagundes 6 дней назад
Now that you practiced letter by letter, I would like to see you writing in context, like some phrases, and having her to point out what would go better in the whole harmonization
@johannschneider6372
@johannschneider6372 28 дней назад
An awesome video! I have one question, not really related to the topic of the vid, but once I saw Yuki, I thought that I might try to ask - some weeks ago a small group of jurists just finished a new translation of the Civial Code of Japan with commentaries on the most important articles. Incorporated into the comments are some decisions of the Supreme Court of Japan, I had a decision from 1935. I do my main japanese legal research in constitutional law of the Meiji era. All that lead-up for that question: How hard is it for japanese natives to read such documents (a decision from 1935 or even the Meiji-Constitution)? I studied Japanese at university next to law and I found it quite hard to read those texts.
@HDennis
@HDennis 21 день назад
I noticed myself that the correct stroke order for hiragana も you start with the vertical line. But for the katakana モ you start with the horizontal one.
@AMegaPear
@AMegaPear 28 дней назад
Finding out that I've also been using the wrong stroke order for も destroyed me lol
@niwa_s
@niwa_s 25 дней назад
It *is* very unintuitive when you've gotten far enough to develop an intuition for stroke order...
@niklaskras5498
@niklaskras5498 19 дней назад
I dont have time for the 1.5h video but very interesting
@rawcopper604
@rawcopper604 25 дней назад
When are you doing this with Kanji? I'd love to see the differences between how Chinese and Japanese write Chinese characters as a student of Mandarin
@rumbust7793
@rumbust7793 28 дней назад
Amazing to see how Yuki could improve upon every single one where I thought Andy did a good job. Another vote for doing katakana too.
@piersikas
@piersikas 4 дня назад
you have to cover katakana now :) fun video, want more like this :)
@krakowian
@krakowian 26 дней назад
amazing video, please do also katakana
@nelsondrums5135
@nelsondrums5135 22 дня назад
you should do the opposite where you critique her English characters
@TheMakoyou
@TheMakoyou 22 дня назад
Your wife is like a school teacher.😂 I'm Japanese who have not written jumping the left stick of "い" for about 20 years.😅
@banditmain6401
@banditmain6401 21 день назад
Yuki is such a good teacher, I like her positivity and encouragement. Listening to her talk is helping with my listening while also learning how to write my hiragana better.
@user-mk8dv7oo1d
@user-mk8dv7oo1d 27 дней назад
His hiraganas are better than mine whereas I am a Japanese age of 42 who was educated in Japan.
@AAFREAK
@AAFREAK 26 дней назад
I first noticed something was up when I saw も on a chart I blindly found that was written in the way Andy first wrote it, and then I looked at another sheet that had done it the other way. Yuki's example made more sense of that. TBF, I didn't even get started looking at writing them until late, as I was more forcused on retention of the characters and their pronunciations more. But I also knew that they derived from kanji and later took notes on kanji stroke order, that when I revisited the charts, I started to question things. My own handwriting isn't great, but my strokes in Japanese looks more cursive-like at this point, so i don't think that would be particularly terrible. I do try to make it legible. So I would try to keep in mind with the emphasis on the curvature, direction and position. I just gotta practice it a bit more. That being said, the pointers here are good ones to look out for. I'm just more used to typing though.
@gaspump
@gaspump 28 дней назад
My writing is bad but all I want is to read... Might be fun to write cursive at her and see how she does. Literally zero videos on RU-vid about that.
@alexskywalker5478
@alexskywalker5478 7 дней назад
28:42🔖 Commenting to bookmark for myself
@CatinaboxReal
@CatinaboxReal День назад
ふ was really hard for me to learn how to write until i started thinking of it as a 3 in the middle of a short ハ (i do the middle part in one stroke, for purely stylistic reasons)
@idontknowwhatimdoinghere
@idontknowwhatimdoinghere 27 дней назад
8:29 kinda looks like a り. Either it’s just my ukiyo-e ‘font’ brain, or other folks see it too.
@Koutouhara
@Koutouhara 20 дней назад
It's interesting watching this and she's correcting things.. but then the subtitles do the exact things she's dissing XD I think the font versions get you by at least
@ShiruSama1
@ShiruSama1 26 дней назад
Many different あ are ok as long as the lower part looks like a normal め
@xiaofei89
@xiaofei89 20 дней назад
Are you planning on reviewing Tobira 2? You said on your last tobira video that you would make a review and see if they closed the gap that’s usually the problem in Genki.
@MichaelJacksonJr
@MichaelJacksonJr 28 дней назад
I think one person speaking in English and the other in Japanese is helping me a lot with comprehensible input because I know the context for what’s being said
@CatinaboxReal
@CatinaboxReal День назад
I actually pride myself in having a font handwriting actually it kinda makes sense that my handwriting looks like a font because all the Japanese I ever see is a font lol
@vita.miinii
@vita.miinii 25 дней назад
i thought i knew hiragana.
@sweetdurt2143
@sweetdurt2143 29 дней назад
That thumbnail is wild frfr
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 29 дней назад
And every frame is taken directly from the video. haha
@eversbach
@eversbach 7 дней назад
It's vertical writing, great tip
@jordanmckinney6973
@jordanmckinney6973 3 дня назад
If we have questions regarding the Japanese where can we ask, andy?
@the_real_tost
@the_real_tost 25 дней назад
28:53 i KNEW those two had smth in common
@randomdude3066
@randomdude3066 2 дня назад
In the US when I see hand writing from young women, the text is very bubbly, evenly spaced, "cute" even. Is that the same was what Yuki is describing, but for hiragana?
@bleep0004
@bleep0004 28 дней назад
Now do roman one. Maybe print and cursive.
@pahoopahoo
@pahoopahoo 19 дней назад
「お」とか「か」とか「ら」とか「む」などの「ヽ」の部分に関して。 動画ではアンディさんはピュッと線を払うようにして書いていますが、この点の部分はしっかり筆/ペン/鉛筆を最後まで紙に付けてゆっくり移動させて書くものです。日本人はそのように書いています。他の動画でも別の外国人の方(特に西洋人)が平仮名を書く時この部分をピュッと書いていて気になりました。ゆきさんも同意するかと思います。
@connormchugh8456
@connormchugh8456 23 дня назад
The Japanese language has a lot of unique internal logic about how its characters are proportioned. I didnt think about it until i saw Andy's first "a" and then noticed the 3rd stroke being too large and off-center
@gintuner4371
@gintuner4371 2 дня назад
^That "o" she wrote seemed like a bit much. its something i've pretty much only seen exaggerated like that in calligraphy, but the angles of that triangle are much too sharp. when you see it being done in calligraphy, there is clearer change from convex to concave curve forming the triangular shape, but with a mechanical pencil or a marker, that just looks so odd.
@user-zt5qo3jd9b
@user-zt5qo3jd9b 28 дней назад
「う」 で本気出したの面白いᴡ
@SUTERAaAaA
@SUTERAaAaA 28 дней назад
Great! Please do dakuten and handakuten too.
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 28 дней назад
The writing for dakuten and handakuten doesn't change at all. You just add the 2 little lines or the little circle to what we did in this video. =)
@bryanli316
@bryanli316 23 дня назад
One thing I noticed is that your Japanese handwriting is much more rounded and more curved while Yuki write straight with sharp corners
@Morganstillman
@Morganstillman 11 дней назад
Katakana please!!!
@Michael-rc5ks
@Michael-rc5ks 6 дней назад
書道の経験が出ますね
@random832
@random832 26 дней назад
What is the cause of the systematic differences between computer fonts and normal handwriting, especially in cases like さ/き? like, obviously *someone* wrote them that way, whoever designed the font. Was it a regional dialect, a style that just later fell out of favor, or just one person's strange handwriting that ended up being the template for the first computer fonts and everyone else copied?
@jaycee330
@jaycee330 24 дня назад
Probably because back on a printer's press, connected characters came out better, they were optimized for the printing press. It's the same reason "a" and "g" have different variants, especially when handwritten. Almost no one writes "g" as the "g" with the closed loop on the bottom, and most people write "a" with the large loop on the left.
@pimeja7
@pimeja7 27 дней назад
フォントと手書きで違うの結構あるよね 英語でもaとかgとか違ったりするし
@zohnannor
@zohnannor 28 дней назад
10:45 gd reference
@randomdude3066
@randomdude3066 2 дня назад
What does Yuki's hiragana look like when she is writing fast and not trying to make it look perfect?
@runningriot7963
@runningriot7963 28 дней назад
I draw も the same as you andy ahahah. Yuki's version is way easier though
@Mighteyes
@Mighteyes 28 дней назад
めっちゃくかわいいひらがなですよ www
@alexcurtis2690
@alexcurtis2690 28 дней назад
I didn't realize I'd been writing kana wrong until I got a kanken game for the DS and it didn't recognize a lot of my handwriting lol
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 28 дней назад
This happened to me on on a Kanken game with や years back. 😅
@niwa_s
@niwa_s 25 дней назад
That game is legitimately awful at recognising certain characters, though. Kana aren't too bad, though I find that I have to sort of exaggerate the shapes of そ, み and to a lesser extent な. For kanji, though... if I get stuck on something and then essentially trace a reference in slow motion to get past it, but you keep parsing it as the same other, very obscure character? The problem might not be me... I've used quite a few apps with stroke recognition and some algorithms are obviously more refined than others, without necessarily being more forgiving.
@alexcurtis2690
@alexcurtis2690 25 дней назад
@@niwa_s which game were you using? For the one I have, I've found that as long as I have the stroke order right and the character is balanced within the square more or less right, it can tell what I'm writing. One of the things I've had fun doing is writing characters as sloppy and unrecognizably as possible and seeing if it'll still know what I wrote, which has helped me with reading irl messy handwriting
@niwa_s
@niwa_s 25 дней назад
@@alexcurtis2690 漢検トレーニング2. It really varies. Most of the time it does fine, but some characters are a pain. The そ I write the alternate way with 2 strokes (resembling ソ), haven't gotten it recognised any other way. み I have to make extra wide and flat, while I make な "longer", putting extra distance between the top and bottom parts. っゃゅょ often take more than one attempt as well because of how small you have to make them. Kanji I can't think of examples right now besides 清 which it really loves parsing as 漬. Really put me in a pickle during a 15 min challenge once. Solution seems to be making 月 maximum curvy. What's annoying is that unless you actually have issues with stroke order or the basic shapes/radicals, this doesn't actually train "bad habits" out of you or anything. It's kanken training... but the Kanken exams themselves are actually quite flexible regarding how exactly you write your Kanji. 🤷‍♂️
@ToKiniAndy
@ToKiniAndy 25 дней назад
@@niwa_s I found it quite accurate for kanji. And as long as you get the stroke order right you could usually write as messy as you want. Maybe we're talking about a different game?
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