it looks like total and complete practiced and concretized hell. the "shell" of what may have once been spontaneous religious experience, practiced by lost people, caught on tape. Nice job.
I think Roshi Jiyu (Peggy) Kennett was the first Western woman allowed to stay in a Zen monastery. She became a priest and later came to the US to found the lineage of the Order of Buddhist Contemplatives. She wrote a fantastic book about it called the Wild White Goose.
Thanks for the note, we discussed this topic in the comments before and yes, Jiyu Roshi was earlier. Ruth Fuller Sasaki was even earlier than Jiyu Kenneth though, apparently Fuller already sat zazen in the Daitokuji Zendo in the 30's.
The rapid loud chanting, running for the bell, energy and intensity helps keep you from being too religious. Zen is the Religion of no Religion. It helps keep you from thinking 'oh what a holy thing I'm doing' it also helps you not think too much except about what you have to do next. Most people don't keep right thoughts about their actions, and that's why we get lost, in this pressure, like a boot camp for the mind you get straight. Strange how some people think just because you laze around like Gurus you would somehow have wisdom drop on you from the sky
Japanese Zen monasteries are pretty tough and strict, but people are there by choice...mostly people who need difficult circumstances in order to deepen.
Thank you so much for making and posting this video for public. This is so inspiring for all other zen students. Again Thank you for the wonderful work. Gassho Dewi
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Buddha was born in india and preached Buddhism in india. We still don't know if Prince Siddharth was born on the other side of border between India or Nepal. Even so if he is born in Nepal, he became Buddha in india. So Buddha was born in india.
Các thầy âu mỹ đi tư hoc anh sáng của đức phật từ bi bắc ái minh triết và khoa học.chúc các thầy nhanh chóng tiếp thu rời quay về nước các thầy để dúp nhiều người biết đến đức phật từ bi bắc ái
its very important to have friends, Sangha, with the same purpose - an enlightenment, but to live with them together, like and with family, is mistake. must have your own quite place, for to see what's going on with your mind, but not to be in control of rules, traditions and daily contacts. all monastery are dustbins of mental sweepings, and arenas, where goes so much everything, not necessary for meditation practice. must leave your-self alone, for to understand, who and how powerful indeed you are. it is nice to visit master in center and to talk with cup of tea.
I found it odd that he said when he first got there that people were snappy and only some were patient as he was learning the ropes. Seems like everyone would be welcoming and helpful.
Because you have become monks, followers of the law of the Buddha and disciples of a famed Master, you think you are different from the laymen on whom you look with condescension. You are as ignorant of original spirit as only the grass of the field can be.
Yes, Zen Soto come to Europe directly from Japan with Master Deshimaru. She speak of Zen Rinzai. She shows Zen Rinzai in her documentary, this school it seems was introduce to Europe from US.
@@donosvald7446 I guess so. But how Zen is Zen? And is it violating humans nature laws or not. E.g. sitting around a lot is realy unhealthy for the mind and body.
It's a steel wok that never had a non-stick coating. It got blackish on top because of heavy use on high fire. Nonetheless, they could use a new one :D
Our retreat was going well. Then one day Uzua farted really loudly This was the last straw for Obubu who turned and shoved Uzua through the paper wall into the rock and sand garden. That's when Share leaped through the wall and tackled Uzua messing up the zen sand raking. This threw Bonopa into a rage and he jumped on Share and I jumped on Bonopa. The abbot threw us all out so the momentary which is why we're sitting in front of the 7-11 at midnight huddling in the cold!
This regimen seems extremely hectic and stressful, and not “zen” at all, as I thought I understood it. But what do I know? I’m just a dumb Californian. 🤣
Mr Moore, I'm feeling immense pain and suffering, i lost everything, freinds family, love how can I find peace ? I scarificed everything for a person but that person left me alone , that person never even try to help me or ask me how I'm dealing with these situations just left me ...tell me where i can I find peace Mr Moore..... I tried everything but nothing is working , now , no one is with me , I'm fighting with my own self......how can I get back everything....why me only?? I had very normal life but in just some months i lost everything I'm dying here everyday.....tell me some way .....how can I find peace Because i have lot of questions inside me How can I find the answers???
Chúng ta có bước khởi đầu chân thật nhưng kết thúc không thật chân thì tất cả đều đổ vỡ hoài công . Gian nan trắc trở là sự thử thách đáng giá nhất để cho ta tìm thấy chân thật chính mình .
In the time I was there from 2009 until 2014 we hardly had any sick people. It might be that since covid they changed some things there at the table :D
As I do not speak the language, I don’t understand the purpose of the ritualism in, for example, eating a meal. To me it seems like an exercise in compliance which, to me, seems far from liberation and unattachment.
Any monastery is a difficult place to live. If you can read yourself completely, then no need to stay in a monastery. If you can't smile gracefully after staying in a monastery, then think........
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 Dude, you are such a fake buddist hoax. Who named you the Buddhism police? "Show us, come on show us!"... yeah right, where is your inner peace brah...XD
@@screwdriver4862 It isn't. Running around in so called normal life, not knowing who you really are, having little insight and not being awake is what is truly robotic.
I watched this while drinking my beer and having a nice meal. No rush. Zen monasteries have a sense of urgency: every second should be spent in the attempt to achieve satori. There is rhythm to the life of a monk. I am beyond that. All I need is to be content at this point. And if I am not, I am no different than anyone else. I cook, exercise, sleep. There is no urgency anymore. I hope they find what they want. My instincts tell me they won't but if they are content, that is enough.
Running for a meeting with the Abbott is part of the tradition (in the comment section you will see we discussed this topic before). The singing is called chanting. Zen Buddhist texts (sutras) are recited, usually guided by a Japanese sutra drum (mokugyo). It is a meditative practice in itself and a challenging concentration exercise. On this RU-vid channel you will find many examples of Zen Buddhist chants.
It is tradition, everybody runs from the meditation hall to the waiting hall to wait for a personal meeting with the Zen master. One of the functions of the running is I guess to underscore the importance of the meetings with the Zen master, and the order of arrival at the waiting hall decides who can meet the master first. If you are at the end of the row there is a chance you will not be able to meet the master since the time he has for private meetings is limited. Another function of the running is that it gives you an opportunity to use all the energy that you build up during the zen meditation in the meditation hall that happens before the meetings with the master. So better Run fast ;-)
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 So what makes the difference from a bussy city?? I'm late for my meditation classs!!! nooooooooooooo!!! I'm late for inner peace!! nooo!!
Lol ironically living at a zen monastery is one of the most chaotic and peaceful experiences u will ever experience - I’m living in one for the last 7 months
It was not shown, but I thought it was the tradition to drink the water after rinsing the eating bowls? And I even heard that on some occasions a student will drink the rinse water of ALL those at the eating table? To me this is so DISGUSTING!! (and unsafe) that I could never practice in one of these traditional temples. Maybe this is not correct? 🙏
Thanks for the note. They drink only their own rinse water (a part of it), not the water of all those at the table. Another part of the rinse water is collected and offered to the plants outside.
He wanted to look for the roots of zen ? Their in Japan ? I'm afraid not . Zen came to Japan from China , known as chan. It came to China from India known as Dhyan "concentration" .
What did he mean by 'REAL ZEN MASTER' can you please explain. Plus does the group have any association with the master where they sit and talk and the master gives a kind of lecture or speech
The master running the monastery in the documentary is Harada Shodo (1940), who is in a lineage that can be traced back to the buddha himself, Harada Shodo's teacher was Mumon Yamada (1900-1988). The master gives lectures and speeches in the monastery, SogenJi temple in Okayama.
We eat what is provided, onions are against the regulations of Shojin, however Buddha taught us to accept all gifts equally, so... Would it be preferred to throw a gift away because of a rule? What kind of Buddhism would that be then?
@@davidseriff711 eat it of course, we are not Hindu, hey don't make a religion out of food. What kind of receiver complains about the gift? Lol...a selfish one
@@infozencentre tsss tsss when heart opens, you can feel energies (Qi, prana) and you can't eat meat. it s not about religion, it s about deeper practice.....
Jim Walsh you should speak japanese, and they say, eiheiji its only for japanese, not for foreigner...if you are foreigner they accept for limiting time...
Three different chants come along (all abbreviated in this documentary) 1. Kannon Gyo (a part of the Lotus sutra) 2. Chin Shu Rinzai Esho Zenji Go Roku No Jo (A part of the record of Rinzai) 3. Dai Hi Shu (A purification dharani / sort of mantra)
anyone Sekiro Shadows Die Twice?? yeah..i love that game,that game brings me the fascination about the buddhist zen temples...more like the architecture,i love it!! i realy want to see if it realy exists those temples on those cliffs..steep rocks!? by the way i was dying at Great Shinobi Owl for 6-7 hours i was stuck..man, it was a hard boss!
The chants that were in the video are the heart sutra / hannya shingyo (during the meal) and a part of the Rinzai roku / record of Rinzai and a part of the Moyoho Renge Kyo / Lotus Sutra (during the ceremony).
why are they chanting in such a frantic high pitched manner???? as if following this to the T will enrich their lives!!!! The Buddha himself never behaved in such weird manner. All ancient sources say that he used to access food graciously, whatever offered, but he never blessed the food etc. He was thankful for the meal, of course, but never in this overtly formal way.
The frantic way that it's done in a Rinzai temple is to emulate the desperation that the poor feel. If you have ever been hungry - desperately hungry you know this practice. As to what the historical Buddha did, or how he lived, you were there? Show us.
@@australianzenstudiesinstit2216 You sound like a religios fanatic freak...."muh muh you didn´t know the historical Buddha you weren´t there muh muh"...
Watched it several times. Boring as hell. A detailed explanation would be really informative because everything of what I see here happens in my house everyday!! Even the praying part!. WTF !.
@@ObakuZenCenter Good point. The clue here is the word "constantly" but other than that I buy it. Edit: remember the middle path?. The violin chord?. That.
@@DysmasTheGoodThief Dude, you are talking like "Yoda" lol fukng dork XD Zen means to be calm/meditation. Buddhism does not escape from fake gurus and fake leaders. And I don´t really "practice it", but I know what it is about.
I wish they all knew that "They already have a Buddha nature and don't need to do anything to attain it" "This mind is the Buddha mind, there is no mind other then the Buddha mind" 🤗🙏❤
