Honestly that part felt VERY scripted. It's such a cliche that the producers must have at least told her "Hey. Ask one of those real Black people if you can touch their hair." Still very cringe and awkward.
@@penhuinz0 Idk how old you are or if you have personal experience with this behaviour, but based on my own experiences I found it very believable. I’m white with curly hair and grew up with many white women her age and around that time period randomly being like “Can I touch your curls” while already stroking them. Made me extremely uncomfortable, especially since I’m autistic but also because strangers touching you without consent is obviously uncomfortable for most. Those women, I’ve been told, do it even more to black women because they’re even less respectful of their boundaries and more curious about the kinky hair types. So I personally find it very believable that this white woman, who’s already shown disrespect for people’s boundaries in many previous scenes, would’ve done that. Especially since the context of a hair salon might’ve made her feel it was more okay to express that kind of interest in a stranger’s hair. It’s cliche because it happens so often. The only extra odd element here is that she’s in full blackface but that’s the show. So again, I disagree with your opinion but I guess we’ll never know for sure. Maybe you’re right.
Based on this episode, I really wish the best for Rose. She has big “I just learned about racism and it really upsets me and I’m trying to be anti racist but I’m still in the ‘black people are just SO strong and inspiring’”
I think she has the most potential to change. She clearly never been around people of color before. So like yeah it's "weird" and a new experience for her but I think she's probably actually going to learn from this. Whereas Carmen and Bruno... just suck.
@@DMO-DMO-DMOyou mean has two racist parents who have been reaching her subtle racism and ingraining it in her without her even understanding it: happens to all children who are taught and then grow into the racism their parents show them.
That quote "I dream to never be called resilient again" hits me hard. I didnt want to be trafficked, I didn't want to be disabled and live in poverty. I got through it because I had to. I get through every day because I HAVE to. I'm exhausted. I'm depressed but I'm not going to stop just because capitalism has decided my life isn't worth living.
i understand to an extent,, i went thru the things u listed as well and being called strong, brave and resilient is so, frustrating and annoying,, like i didn't want 2 be here, i tried to leave cos i didn't wanna live this kinda life. when ppl call me brave & strong etc. for surviving attempts and the shit i went thru i don't understand. like social workers. like i didn't even wanna tell u that. i was disappointed to wake up 2day. coping is rough as fuck and a lifelong challenge and it becomes angering as it feels like people refuse 2 understand at all.
Exactly. I'm not brave or strong, I just have to work exponentially more to survive. As a fellow trafficking survivor, I totally get that. It's frustrating bc it's so tiring trying to get people to understand.
Not a trafficking survivor but as someone who’s had an extremely rough childhood going from foster home to foster home and eventually my half-siblings abusive fathers household, along with being diagnosed with an incurable debilitating disease, I feel this. I get tired of people calling me strong just because I’ve been through a lot and I’m still here. I hate working but feeling more exhausted than others but being forced to work and work just to try to scrape by due to capitalism. The system was not built for people like us who had it rough. Hang in there! You aren’t alone.
for most of my life the only black teacher i knew was my own father so when i started as an intern in a school and not only saw a black teacher w locs but also classes with *multiple* black students i was almost mad my parents always enrolled me in the mostly-white schools, i def understand the unexpected joy of going somewhere and not being the only black person
bruh I feel the same way. I'm from Central Cali (hella conservative, mostly Hispanic and white) and I've moved to Florida recently and there's black people everywhere it's crazy 😭💖
My son’s teacher this year (2nd grade) is black with red died locs. I was pleasantly surprised. She is great too. She works with him. Sometimes he has trouble staying seated so she allows him to stand at a standing desk and work.
I’m white so I’ve never experienced that specific situation but I was raised in a town that’s mostly white and Hispanic people. The first time I met a black person she was a teacher in 4th grade and she had the prettiest locs, I think they were dyed purple iirc? I remember thinking her hair was so fuckin cool lol. Some areas having like no POC is so weird.
I wonder if they sent Renee to those boring groups so they could contrast her reaction with Bruno’s reaction to the dominos group. Because he had no interest in the game of dominoes, but he was much ruder and asocial about it. Meanwhile, Renee still gives things a go even though she finds the activities boring and difficult to get into. When one group doesn’t work, she wants to find another that might. And she even finds a connection with someone through the scrapbooking group despite not enjoying the activity. She’s also more proactive about wanting the experiences, whereas Bruno seems like he’s got to be dragged along to participate. Except the way these episodes are structured doesn’t make it clear these different attitudes are meant to be contrasted if that truly was the intent. A narrator for this series, even if just summarising the experiences at the end of episodes, might’ve helped draw these connections better but maybe they couldn’t do something like that without it feeling even stranger to watch. I’ve seen this before (I watched Hasan’s reaction) but am only now realising, after you guys discussing how strange some of Renee’s scenes were to include, that they probably intended those to contrast with Bruno’s scenes. If that was the intent though then I don’t think they did a great job communicating it to viewers.
"FUN FACTS" i found like doing some reasearch out of curiosity: -the "wurgel" (white) family arent actually a family. bruno marcotulli, an actor & carmen wurgel, a casting director were apparently dating at the time and rose had never met either before the project. they used carmen's real last name for the family. -the sparks (black) family are real tho. idk about the others, but according to some interviews brian had no clue that bruno was an actor, not sure if he found out during or after that rose is one too. brian is the one the found the ad online and submitted his family. -throughout the casting special, the interviews, etc, the "wurgle family" was refered to as real. the producers even talking about how happy and how lucky they felt over finding this perfect family for the role. -the slam peotry class/group, fake-ish. they place is usually mixed classes but producers asked the guy who ran it specifically to create an all black class for rose to then join. -the job brian got? the lady and the show had already set up an agreement for him to have a 4 day spot. -brian claims the show portrayed things well. carmen claims they "slanted the truth". -not shocking, but most of the white businesses visited are mad about the show, suffered backlash and denounced their racist customers. -the sparks actually likes rose and tried staying in contact but as far as i could find, she stopped talking to them once the show aired. same to the guy she had a crush on. carmen and bruno broke contact with the sparks right after filming. theres a bunch more but uh- i wrote way more then i ment to but this rabbit hole has alot. this is the cut down version. but ya, this show was a mess and very fabricated (shocker i know). i will say all of this is from a bunch of different articles & i could not for the life of me find the oprah interview.
Thank you for doing this work though, this is fascinating. Also, makes me think the wurgles were just ... shallow and typical white. I read in another comment that Rose went to study anthropology in college, but also kind of ended up doing a regular corporate job.
Honestly, the guy who said he was so lucky and happy to be sitting there with his friends and the people who love him almost made me cry. It's sweet, and I hope that dude is doing great
The way Bruno speaks about these things is SO reminiscent of the way my centrist, white ex used to speak about shit. It is so EXHAUSTING dealing with people like him.
Bruno really strikes me as a malignant narcissist. My dad is one and he talks just like Bruno, saying a bunch of bigoted nonsense and then refusing to listen when people try to make him see sense. It's a nasty combination of a lack of empathy and an inability (or refusal) to recognize/admit to their own faults.
Jordan's comment about people hearing about trauma and then being silently jealous about having a good story just ruined my sleep schedule for a week it explains so much
Brunos attitude of "you get what you give out of life" grinds my gears so much cause i was literally a lil kid when i learned life isn't like that and i'm white too! Yeah having a positive outlook etc helps and sometimes life gives back what you give but it isn't concrete and is far more complex than that.
Especially when Bruno’s beliefs are constantly used to discredit minorities (usually disabled people and people of color) to claim that they’re “lazy” and “just not working hard enough” when they’re actually suffering because of systemic discrimination.
I am a white (and Mexican) trans man about to turn 30 and I love knitting and crocheting xD I actually started in 2020 and it's now going to be a lifelong hobby, it's actually really fun.
I’m also a trans man and I’m hispanic and I’ve done knitting before and it’s so fun ! But I never finished my first project cuz I’ve been busy with school that I couldn’t learn
I'm a brazilian white nb (AMAB) and started crocheting 2020 also!! Very fun, I sometimes think of picking up knitting also, but I am a bit intimidated.
"Jarving on my Johnson." That made me laugh more than it should have. Your content has been making me feel comforted as I'm in the hospital for the holidays alone in isolation. Damn lungs aren't doing their job! I'm so scared but your videos make me forget about the new horrors of my health. Thank you for being you, Jarvy Jarv! You too, Jordan!! ❤️❤️
@@BiroLaertes Aww you are so sweet. Thank you so much. I didn't want a lung biopsy for Xmas but, hey, everything happens for a reason. Even the poopy things. Thank you again. ❤️
Two things : one, you upload this full stream AND a video on the Gold channel, your production has me spoiled lately. Two, thank you for the complete VODs, I’ve enjoyed everything so far but ESPECIALLY the chemistry you and Jordan and chat have is so entertaining that only the highlights just isn’t enough, I appreciate all the smaller digressions and comments. Keep it up, Jarvis & Co
When Jordan mentioned that Jarvis started feeling like an older brother I was so flabbergasted for a moment, I thought Jordan HAD to be the older one. Then I googled trying to find his age, I did not find it, but I saw a photo of him without his mustache and that was it. It was just the mustache. Mustache equals older brother vibes APPARENTLY lol
The whole “a white person could never have a place here” “we could never connect” “I’m only accepted in black face” stuff is just plain sad. The racism is so deep within the white family that they can’t fathom the fact that many people intermingle cultures very often in a healthy way XD
the "can i take your trauma for my story?" is something i get on a regular basis. i have a tumblr blog about schizophrenia (since i am schizophrenic and want to spread awareness and positivity) and i legit cant go a week without a nonschizophrenic reblogging my personal post with "writing inspo", or sending me a dm asking for me to tell them things about my experience to help them with their story or to proofread their story about schizophrenia and it really annoys me. they want my time and experiences for free so they can profit off of it. and they always get mad when i calmly explain to them why i wont and dont want them writing that story in the first place.
God, the entitlement of people is absolutely astounding sometimes. Just… the fact that they think they’re entitled to free emotional labor because THEY decided to write about a disorder you have… could they just not? I have yet to see a good representation of any mental condition written by someone with no personal experience, maybe it’s me being cynical but I bet even if you did go through the effort of sharing/proofreading for them they’d still manage to bastardize it by the final draft. On a more positive note, though, I think it’s really cool that you’re trying to spread awareness about schizophrenia. I’m not schizophrenic but do have DID, and the two tend to be lumped together/treated in similar ways when it comes to stigma. I’m also very passionate about advocacy but for the moment have had to step back because people can be SO mean, especially online, so I appreciate anybody willing to brave that to get their story out there. :)
Hello, fellow schizophrenia haver! Always nice to see other people with it out in the wild. I think it's interesting to see another perspective on this; I'm generally fine explaining things, or even having someone use my experiences as inspiration, but I have a very different experience with mental health than a lot of people, so I feel like I'm not the 'ideal' mentally ill person, if that makes sense? Like the people you're talking about only want one kind of schizophrenia experience and have expectations of what that experience is and should be. I'm also cool with people writing schizophrenic characters, and for having sensitivity readers for it, but it really depends on what they produce. Like...is it written with sensitivity and compassion, or is it trope-y and fetish-y? But like I said, it's nice to see another perspective :)
Also I feel like people get mad when someone doesn't want to explain their experience for someone not having that experience to write about because "there needs to be more representation". Like yes of course there needs to be more representation but that representation should actually come from someone with the experience not some rando trying to profit off of it for the sake of representation. Representation is very important but in order for it to be actually good and beneficial representation it needs to come from someone who actually knows how to represent the experience. No representation is better than bad representation. Anyways, thank you for sharing that aspect of your experience and sorry for cutting in I just wanted to share that
@@meanjean7548 To be fair, im absolutely positive nobody asking for writing advice on tumblr is doing it "for a profit". Theyre likely teenagers making characters for personal stories.
I just found 'The most popular people names for dogs' on the washington post and I entered the name Bruno and I feel compelled to share that ' ...of 100,000 people and 100,000 dogs, 215 dogs and 5 people would be named Bruno' So I'm happy that out of all the Brunos out there most of them are dogs 😁
My dog’s name is actually Bruno (I didn’t name him btw) and he’s black AND white. Now I don’t know how to feel about that. Edit: I just realized: Not only is my dog black and white, his body is mostly white and is head/face is black. He’s like a furry reincarnation of this terrible terrible show
In regards to the point you make about halfway through about being a parent who went through trauma that your kid will never experience, i think that's a really interesting thing. My dad had a severely traumatizing childhood surrounding religion and poverty and abuse. I grew up hearing those stories in a neutral way, like not as a "you could have it so much worse, be grateful" nor a "feel pity for me" kind of way but just in a "this is a story about my life" kind of way, I see that as a very big and positive part of what my dad has contributed to my life. Being aware of bad things in a way where they're close enough to you to register as real and serious, but not enough to cause trauma of its own, that can be a really good thing imo.
One time when i was about 6 i covered my friends face in sparkly black eyeshadow because we were cool emo kids and black was edgy and my mom flipped out and never told me why and i finally learned years later in school what i had done
HONESTLY, I'm just happy to see how justifiably upset this show makes people these days, cause I remember when it was airing and not really raising that many brows. Like, it was just accepted, largely. I'm still baffled rhey could air this shit at all, but again. I'm just glad to see this show isn't just cool with most people, anymore
i really related to the conversation about sharing experiences that people usually just say “oh i’m so sorry” about. as someone who has been hospitalized multiple times for mental health reasons and has generally gone through a lot of shit over the years, it’s so good to hear that validation that someone reacting to my trauma like it’s the worst thing that could happen isn’t the only response i should expect. i want to be able to talk about my life without people going “oh i’m so sorry,” “you’re so strong.” like yeah i am strong and also here’s a funny story about something that happened in the mental hospital. it doesn’t have to be a big deal every time i bring it up
Lowkey....same. I have multiply traumatized PTSD, I'm schizophrenic, I'm autistic, and there's been a lot of jacked up things that have happened to me, but like, if I'm laughing about the story I'm telling, so can you!! I KNOW it's upsetting! I KNOW it's messed up! I am very familiar with the situation! But it's okay to take things a little lightly, even serious things. Like, I feel like when I tell people about the really nice patients I met in the crisis center this year, they get distracted by why I was in there, not the story I'm telling. Sometimes it feels like the 'I'm so sorry'/'you're so strong' kind of talk is dismissive, like 'I don't know what to say and I want this conversation to end'. And I get that sometimes you truly don't have anything else to say, but put in a little effort lol
I've set up jokes and needed to give backstory about childhood trauma and i always feel the person get tense, which makes sense, but i love responding to the "I'm so sorry's" with complete dismissal like "no it's fine, it gets funny" and seeing them not know what to do for a sec 💀
I get it too, I have a few different issues in my life, just a plethora of a bunch of tangled mental health problems and if I'm joking about it people tell me I'm venting but I'm just trying to communicate with everyone else with my experience. and then on the other side they will try and make me think its a good thing or make me try and understand another point of view but its insane because lots of times its irresponsible adults who should know better that's the problem.
To be fair it’s not exactly fun being in the listener position while someone is trauma dumping. Especially when it happens out of no where. “Im so sorry to hear that” is a nervous response opposed to a pity one.
@@tsukitanuki101 ok and i didn’t say anything about “trauma dumping.” i’m talking about casually mentioning something funny or inane that happened perhaps in the context of trauma, but not like randomly going on about something horrible that happened to me. like i just want to talk about my life without feeling like mentioning somewhere i’ve been and getting the “i’m so sorry that’s awful” response to something that is normal for me. there’s a different between trauma dumping and saying something about my life experience that’s relevant to the conversation i’m having with a friend
“I’m going to be an open minded student today” “maybe he can teach me a few things that’ll change my perspective on things” didn’t Bruno say those exact words a couple episodes ago?
I remember in one of the earlier ones (where Jordan wasn't on screen) I swear you could hear him fall off of his chair lmao. Dude is gonna end up with a strain or a fracture at this rate XD
I searched for it immediately and then had to rationalize with myself that it made sense to upload the Gold! version first and leave us with anticipation for the full event
NOOO JARVIS i was waiting for the vod but didn't think you'd post it so i went ahead and watched the gold version 😭 still gonna tune in to this though, gotta get the full experience
My mom did the "can I touch your braids I wanna see if they're anything like how we do them"(she was talking about the native American braids) one time to a black woman and thankfully she wasn't reaching out while asking but I had to explain that it's not okay to do and I apologized to the woman and explained hair touching is something we do in our family but I was surprised when the girl told me "no it's okay I actually love when people show appreciation for it" I was really shocked because growing up with black friends/significant others that's one thing they talked about hating when people ask to touch or just do it. I'm just glad it turned out to be a wholesome situation not embarrassing like this one Also Bruno he doesn't even remotely look black, he looks like he went to a tanning salon and got the darkest tan available lol
As a knitter (40 years old) I have knitting magazines from the year I was born. Knitting is an art that started with men on ships who needed to weave sails (or so I've been told.) It's a fun, meditative, creative hobby, you should both try it, I'm sure there are yarn shops near you that offer lessons.
The whole "touching people's hair" is so weird to me, I'm white and the only people that can touch my hair are my partner, really close friends, and little kids (I have dyed black and purple, very wavy hair, so I know that they're genuinely curious if purple hair feels different). But the whole "can I touch your hair?" From a stranger or acquaintance has always been so creepy!
They just kept putting Rene in groups that she has no interest in and with a completely different older age group of course she's not going to fit in or connect it's not because she's black it's because she just doesn't do or care for those things
Thanks for sharing the bit about people reacting to suffering. I didn't know how to articulate how the sympathies made me feel but now I do. It's nice to relate to someone about it.
Bruno's disingenuous framing of "Brian is very anxious for me to feel [discrimination]" is giving me a bit of Matt Walsh, tbh. Nah, it can't be that Brian is trying to get you to understand and you refuse to take any responsibility for learning. No, never.
thinking about the time i, a white person, who also did not know better at the time, asked if I could touch my black friends hair.. I waited for her to agree before actually touching it at least but I am suddenly incredibly embarrassed about that interaction now that I've remembered it, and now that I know better 💀💀
Reminder for Jarvis to add this to the Black White playlist on this channel! Also sucks that this vid wasn’t performing well… I’m late to watching it so I won’t be counted as important in analytics but just know I’m here to watch and support 😤💞
1. Can I touch your hair 2. You speak well 3. You have a good relationship with your dad Those are my triggers. I heard it all the time when I got to college as surrounded by white people who never interacted with a black person. Like when I met and befriended my first white friend I had NO URGE to pet her like an animal.
the conversation about trauma and sharing it I appreciate their opinions on it, where Jarvis says "I prefer when people say thank you for sharing" instead of "I'm so sorry" but I also feel like there's an important distinction. Sometimes people will share things unprompted or trauma dump on you whether or not you're ready for that, in which case its not always a "thanks" its usually just like "damn dude that sucks, I just asked if you wanted to play minecraft"
You really helped me verbalize how I feel about the words "you're so strong" I usually reply "it's all I ever knew, how was I supposed to know it wasn't normal?" I've had a lot of people take pity on me and usually they kinda just enjoy hearing about my suffering and im too naive to realize it sometimes. But when someone says "that's horrible, I can't imagine going through that, how are you alive" I can laugh and say "I've tried to die but it just hasn't been my time yet; I live just for pure spite against my destiny" I just see it as my story, not something I want people to feel bad about or pity me for. I recognize my struggle but I've learned a lot of valuable lessons and I'm glad to not be ignorant to the world and it's evils, because if you know suffering you can know true happiness when it's there.
58:32 I want to say thank you for doing this series, it has really helped me graps and get an insight into an area I have never lived through (I’m a white British woman) . And this particular part really taught me . As someone with autism my way of validating someone or rather showing my apathy is so share a similar thing to show they are not alone but I don’t want to take anything away from them. So in future I can simply thank them.
When I was this in my subs I actually had to say 'no I'll watch something else first' just to emotionally prepare myself for the absolutely wild shit Bruno says every episode.
Oh my god, the bit about, "Oh can I write about that?" I had that happen recently where my mother, who was abusive too me growing up, reached out after a long time apart... To try and get me to sign a book deal with a publisher she had gotten work published through who wanted to sign me on since she had basically gone to him like, "Oh you want to write a comic about trans pain? Well I know JUST the traumatized trans person you can talk too!"
as someone who has experienced a shit ton of trauma in my life i always hate opening up to people about it bc i just don’t want to hear that “oh i’m sorry” bc it doesn’t do shit. being thanked for sharing would make me feel so much better about actually sharing my story rather than being pitted
@@katc2040 I can only really speak from my own experience, but hearing about a friend or loved one’s trauma can be healing and improve the relationship. Hearing anything about a loved one’s background can be wonderful because you are getting a better idea of who they are as a person and what life is like from their perspective, and if they are being vulnerable by sharing a moment that could be painful for them, such as recounting trauma, then they are extending themselves and it’s an opportunity for you to listen, possibly relate, and show them acceptance/love. Honestly, it doesn’t even have to apply strictly to loved ones. I personally think it is wonderful when any person feels comfortable enough to share their perspective and life experiences with me, and I am thankful that they did so.
Thank you so much for uploading this right now. I'm having a really bad night emotionally and I just said to myself "If I can just watch one funny RU-vid video it'll put me in a good enough mood to sleep." I know the topic of the video is insane, but whenever you two do videos together it always puts a smile on my face. One of my favorite duos on youtube. ❤
Regarding the sharing of personal stuff, I know for me (I am doing the exact thing I'm about to talk about) that I often relate to them with my own similar issue. And that's just because of the ADHD. Like, I'm not trying to be egotistical, but I'm trying to find a way to say that I feel the same way. But I do recognise that what I've been through might be different in different ways but the general consensus is the same.
Can I just say how much I love how comfortable jarvis has become speaking on politics? He has come so far, and it feels like he's finally finding his voice. And it's great ❤️
I feel like thats her age, thinking she cant connect without an equivalent experience, its a thing when youre younger and still learning to place yourself outside of your own "bubble"
as someone who has both a huge stash of pokemon cards (more than ill ever use) and a huge stash of fabric (more than ill ever sew) I can confirm its exactly the same thing
I feel you on the whole childhood trauma conversation. I grew up with daily abuse and financial instability to the point where as soon as I could work I did to help make ends meet, and as soon as I had the opportunity to strike out on my own I never went back. I am still dealing with the ramifications today and I am working through the long healing process, but when I tell people out of an effort to open up/trust/relate, I am frequently met with the ‘whoa that was too much….you must be strong’ reaction which, like, thank you but also it wasn’t exactly a choice? I don’t really feel seen as a person now, just as my trauma….sort of defeats the purpose of opening up. -_-
bruno talking about how black people are so aware of who they are and then displaying the absolute disconnection from who he is by saying he was WAITING for someone to come and call him the N word thereby making HIMSELF that person to the black family sitting in front of him is just????? stranger than fiction. goddamn.
obviously its not the exact same thing but im trans and i really understand the relief of being with somebody else whos also trans and i think thats something non minorities will never truly understand
YES. THE MOMENT I'VE BEEN WAITIN FOR. Can't wait to watch this with my girlfriend. It's such concentrated racism and vitriol, that I love watching you guys debunk it and talk about things. Keep up the hard work, yo
What i usually do when someone shares something rough is usually like. A sympathetic "damn, that's fucked up" or something like that, depending on the tone of the conversation and our relationship like either be angry alongside them, try getting them through if they're upset and thank them for sharing and remind them that i love them and here for them, if it's still kind of light then i keep it light, does that make sense?
The conversation about trauma and people's reactions hit so hard for me. TRAUMA DOESN'T MAKE YOU STRONGER. It just destroys you and then you have to build yourself again because that's the only choice you have. "You're so strong/brave/etc" means "I can't imagine MYSELF living with that but it's amazing how you can". No one imagines themselves handling trauma better, bad things just randomly happen to people and they have to live with it. Also you don't need a narrative trauma to have a character arc ffs.
Reminds me of the arguments people make to justify God's existence in spite of human suffering. "The suffering exists so that we can feel good about overcoming it" etc etc. It's not a great rebuttal, to say the least...
idk how to phrase this but it’s so nice to have youtubers i can listen to who have like. a solid grasp on life and two feet on the ground lol. the conversations around trauma with u and jordan (i also see this with jacob and other YTers which is sick) are so real and it’s stuff i struggle to say to ppl a lot if we don’t have shared experiences. it’s just nice to remember that other (successful!) ppl get it
Every time someone says I'm funny or have my shit together I just look at them and go. "Thanks. It's the trauma." Those who have it know and those that don't always look so shocked.
I just had my first appointment with a new therapist on Monday, and I made a bunch of jokes through the whole thing about all of the things that led me to being in therapy, and at the end of it, she basically said: "You're very funny and have great insight, but that was all incredibly depressing". Thought that was pretty funny XD Gotta laugh through it
Someone tell Bruno that Louisiana allowed a non-unanimous jury to sentence someone to the death penalty up until like 2019 when the people voted to amend their constitution. And then, in like 202p, Supreme Court then said that the amendment might not be retroactive. Meaning there are thousands of Black people in Louisiana sitting on death row who were put there by a non-unanimous jury. Why are non-unanimous juries a problem? Well, in Louisiana in particular, they put that in their constitution after the Civil War and explicitly stated that since they couldn't have slavery, they needed to imprison as many Black people as possible. And once they did, they "leased" out incarcerated people to work on plantations. All of which was perfectly legal.
I'm never the person to bring up my past to try and make people feel sorry for me, but that kind of stuff isn't really talked about. I felt like I was pretty much alone. The benefit to that trauma is feeling so proud of yourself ever day. Knowing that I "made it" without anyone's help. Thanks for sharing Jarvis.
Not to be overly cherritable towards Rose but the way she talks reminds me of a young girl who is trying very hard to convince people that her feelings do matter and are worth something. Like yes she has a crush but you don't understand it's not silly or little, she has a crush on someone 'beautiful' and 'enlightened' and they 'talk like kids again' (unlike the mature adults they actually are obviously) and I think a lot of young afab people go through just having all of their emotions dismissed as so unimportant and ridiculous that it's sometimes really hard to deal with and with as dismissive as Bruno is towards struggles that aren't his own I don't think he's much different with Rose to be honest.
