Javelin In Ukraine

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The war in Ukraine has now been raging for over two weeks. One weapon has become synonymous with Ukraine's resistance to Russia's invasion - Javelin. In this video we'll look at the Javelin ATGM's design, history and its use in Ukraine.
Intro - 0:00
What Is Javelin - 0:47
History - 2:58
How Capable is Javelin - 3:45
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@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thank you for watching guys, small correction: I was mistaken in thinking the tip of the penetrator was the solid part not the whole lot. Its the metal around it that's hydrodynamicly fluid. The metal punching into the armour is solid. More on that in our accompanying blog (with all my sources) here: armourersbench.com/2022/03/13/javelin-in-ukraine/ - Hope this is interesting/useful. - Matt

@wacojones8062 2 года назад

If possible, try to get the X-ray shadowgraphs the Swedish disarmament commission made of shape charge firings. they clearly show the extrusion process at 1/40,000 Thousandth of a sec. Followed by the forward third of the cone vaporizing scouring the hole a bit bigger. That effect varies with warhead design. The Maverick could punch a 4" diameter hole in a T-55 turret rear I have seen the photos of it. Also look up the Dart warhead hemisphere of thick aluminum for massive behind armor effects.

@SSGTStryker 2 года назад

We used the CLU for reconnaissance when I deployed in 2007. It has these strange styrofoam encased components. It looks awkward, but still agile and effective. It can even be attached to a tripod.

@mechadonia 2 года назад

Almost 200k per unit and shits made out of styrofoam 😅 damn!

@QLEK99 2 года назад

@@mechadonia lightweight and keeps the costs down. every dolar counts when ordered in massive numbers

@Joe_Friday 2 года назад

@@mechadonia Yeah, I always laughed. Looked like someone carved out a cheap motel beer cooler and attached a tv screen in it

@zoiders 2 года назад

@@mechadonia The black foam has been used on a lot of western AT systems. These things have to survive being air dropped or shaken about about in AFVs. They will have a transit case and the foam guards will fit perfectly while insulating the unit from impacts. I would guess that the foam suppresses thermal hot spots when the system is switched on as well. Its genuinely really strong foam. Far more robust than stamped steel.

@SSGTStryker 2 года назад

@@Joe_Friday I immediately said the same thing when we pulled it out of the case and the contractor started briefing us. He got furious when the wise-ass comments started to flow.

@Sol_Invictus510 2 года назад

Knowing that Texas Instruments makes the javelin, isn’t surprising and explains the high cost. Their scientific calculators were very powerful and also hella expensive! Still have my TI-84!

@kappawear 2 года назад

My Texas Pride is welling up!

@314299 2 года назад

Great video as usual. If correct, 300 missiles fired with 280 kills is a pretty impressive kill to launch ratio.

@Blackguineapig 2 года назад

Especially when you think that not all of those firing them will have had a full course in how best to operate Jav....

@tlangdon12 2 года назад

And 280 kills is a pretty impressive dent in Russia's invasion force, as the majority of Javelin kills would expected to be of MBTs.

@bennostockert1256 2 года назад

This number makes sense since Jav's hit rate is claimed to be over 90%

@generalmcarthur8401 2 года назад

@@bennostockert1256 its 94%. Its hit rate in Ukraine was said to be 93% when these number's were released but after that about 700 and counting russian vehicles have been destroyed. so the hit count should have drastically increased by now.

@DonLee1980 2 года назад

These weapons are meant for defence against invading tanks and not for the offense. Remember all the times the US said Russia was preparing for an invasion, and how many times Russia said they weren't.

@AlanSanchez-ww9qb 2 года назад

The Russian leadership lies, of course. Hence, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and those in the loving Russian neighborhood all ramping up their militaries, and nations such as Sweden and Finland reconsidering the possibility of joining *NATO* if the Russians continue being nasty.

@Green.P3 2 года назад

@@AlanSanchez-ww9qb I try telling people this but they act like they don’t understand

@green9165 2 года назад

Since we know more about Russia than anyone else, I can assure you that Russia is always lying. We have been talking about this since 1991. She brazenly steals history, culture, provokes, and tries in every possible way to destroy Ukrainians as a nation, 100% of Ukrainians knew that there would be a war, but no one wanted to believe.

@blackbird_actual 2 года назад

I still find it funny to imagine some guy at Texas Instruments, a company usually associated with the humble graphing calculator, sitting down at a meeting and saying something like "Gentlemen, you've all seen our fine calculators draw parabolas...now, what if we designed something for Uncle Sam which could make the turrets of Soviet tanks fly along a parabola?..."

@chungusbooper 2 года назад

Thank goodness these shipments were happening for a while before the war began. It seems like Ukraine & Allies' intel. has really been on-point.

@ligametis 2 года назад

When you think about it does that mean nowadays it is impossible to invade any country when such weapons exist. I mean all armored vehicles became coffins and walking on feet would be slow as hell.

@LondonSteveLee 2 года назад

The UK started supplying the Ukrainians with NLAW in 2014 - and training them how to use them.

@generalmcarthur8401 2 года назад

@@ligametis Not necessarily, its just that the Russian military is showing incompetence never before seen in a military operation.

@maxpax3351 2 года назад

Could you do one on MANPADS? Appreciate the content & the time it takes to create it. Cheers

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Absolutely Max, I'm just starting an article on what we have seen so far. Thanks for watching!

@NecroMalkor 2 года назад

@@TheArmourersBench hooray!!! Keep up the great work, I can't wait to see more of your videos in the future! 😄

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thank you!!

@RyeOnHam 2 года назад

Would love to see one on the Stinger, as we've actually seen that one in action.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Definitely one I'm working on. Perhaps a look at all of the MANPADS currently in the field.

@isaal-magyari9203 2 года назад

I seen a recent video of Hind gunship catching somekind of Manpad in Ukraine,I was curious if it was a Stinger

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

The one where the whole thing is seen side on? And the missile hits the front the helicopter and then it carries on forward and crashes?

@news_internationale2035 2 года назад

@@TheArmourersBench Looks like it hit the engine, not the front. Would be rather useless if it hit the armoured cockpit head on.

@isaal-magyari9203 2 года назад

@@TheArmourersBench yeah, that sounds like the one, takes a hard frontal hit and crashes in a fireball. you can see the twisting smoketrail of the rocket as it is guided in. It's definitely a manpad and not an RPG

@lrs2319 2 года назад

Great sum up. Keep up the good job!

@alexandervatter1436 2 года назад

Excellent like always!

@RMMilitaryHistory 2 года назад

Another great video matt!

@RichardGoth 2 года назад

great rundown...thanks!

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thanks Richard!

@wacojones8062 2 года назад

I had training on the system just before I retired from the US Army Reserve where I had been a 19D4H instructor including TOW and Dragon then a 11B4X drill Sgt. I have been impressed with its combat Success to date.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

I have been surprised we haven't seen an offer of TOW or Humvee mounted TOW yet.

@wacojones8062 2 года назад

@@TheArmourersBench TOW is heavy just the launch tube with a TOW 2B in it is 65 pounds or more. Add the sight system, tripod and Guidance unit it is a beast to move on foot. Plus you need a battery charger unit for the custom batteries it uses. Most of the US Hummers have been beat to near death in service. Here is some eye candy for you. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9IjAPVTtYDE.html TOW 2B vs full combat loaded T-72 on a test range in the US.

@ifell3 2 года назад

Brilliant video!

@ricardoabh3242 2 года назад

The best description so far of the product

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thank you!

@kencampbell1750 2 года назад

Excellent presentation

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thank you!

@raymondyee2008 2 года назад

At first I didn’t think too much about the Javelin but after this and St. Javelin in times like this it does now.

@rockmusicman21 2 года назад

Another thorough video T.A.B

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thank you, thanks for watching!

@coolcoolercoolest212 Год назад

The missiles always look like they are having so much fun. "weee!"😄

@afd19850 2 года назад

Cheers Matt. Wouldn’t mind a similar video on Ukrainian small arms in use. I know they use to manufacture IWI products under licence as Fort but not sure how common they are.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Absolutely! Working on one about the Malyuk bullpup at the moment.

@afd19850 2 года назад

@@TheArmourersBench Nice, keep up the great content.

@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 2 года назад

Very cool

@mickyday2008 2 года назад

Great bit of kit

@charlesrichardson8635 2 года назад

I have read all Javelins sent are the oldest 7,000 units, leaving us with "only" 14,000. Your comment that it makes sense we send the oldest because they are capable; especially if the field report of 280 out of 300 fired is accurate and considering the source it is likely accurate.

@M81_WOODLAND 11 месяцев назад

Texas Instruments also developed the first laser guided bombs during Vietnam. A company mostly known for their calculators have developed some of the most revolutionary implements in modern warfare. Go figure.

@EnkaMexi 2 года назад

Very interessting! One hell of a weapon, impressive

@tlangdon12 2 года назад

The precursor charge to defeat reactive armor is very smart, but Javelin may fair less well when if the Russians can deploy active defence systems on every tank. Until then, happy hunting Ukraine!

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Yeah, oddly zero sign of them yet that with the T-90As.

@edwardloomis887 2 года назад

Javelin replaced Dragon as the U.S. intermediate anti-armor weapon. Dragon was wire-guided and not especially reliable since the gunner had to gain control of the missile after launch and stay on target throughout its flight when it was expected the enemy would be shooting at the source of the weapon.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Yes, it did. Planning on a video about Dragon, got some throughrs from veteran Dragon gunners.

@Nathan-jh1ho 2 года назад

6:28 what is the mat or panel that is attached on the back of him. I've seen similar ones attached to belts on both Russian and Ukrainian soilders. Is it some kind of soft armor? If so why isn't he wearing anything else.

@Nathan-jh1ho 2 года назад

6:34 another one on this person too

@kennys9644 2 года назад

Tactical ass cushion?

@Blackguineapig 2 года назад

It is a cushion. Its makes you mkre comfortable when sat in a hide for long periods on uneven, cold or wet ground etc. I have seen some footage of people in combat using them too

@gradynelson 2 года назад

They teach the Texas Instruments microprocessors in comp and elct engineering classes in Turkey. I remember their systems being really all manual like you gotta put the 0 there with your own hands and push it and put the next.

@gradynelson 2 года назад

My gf just finished her thesis of an ai powered drone to find and identify fugitives in the seas and oceans. That would've been crazy if she had chosen something about wartech bc the system is already something works with thermal sight in real time. Recent improvements in technology made this really easy but I'm sure my guys Texas Instruments wrote the javelin with ones and zeros.

@gradynelson 2 года назад

The current system I mean the fugitive drone can identify any kind of ship with tons of details in really high altitudes and like we're 1 hour to black sea :DDdd Time for some field testt

@raylopez99 2 года назад

What you talking about? assembly language? A lot of TI chips are programmable, the TI 555 timer microchip being but one example.

@gradynelson 2 года назад

@@raylopez99 yeah assembly. makes you feel like you're an aerospace engineer

@raylopez99 2 года назад

@@gradynelson Yes, a good aerospace engineer has to know how to code these days, though probably not assembly, tho that's fun. A high level IDE is good enuf. Not my field however, as not enough money in engineering.

@WhatIfBrigade 2 года назад

🌻

@yorkshire_tea6875 2 года назад

From what I've heard the NLAW has been the most effective in Ukraine

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

At the moment they've been the most visible of Western AT weapons and accounts suggest its been doing great work. We probably won't know for some time how well Javelin has been performing for sure but they are keeping its use pretty hush, hush.

@defective6811 2 года назад

Its good to recall that NLAW and Javelin are complementary systems, not competing systems

@luvirini 2 года назад

@@defective6811 Well, the Javelin is the more capable of them overall, being a homing weapon. The NLAW is good at taking out things it hits, but it has a shorter maximum range and the lack of active guidance(it has only the target predictor) makes the effective combat range even shorter. So, yes, complementary in that they are used differently, but a Javelin could replace a NLAW in about every scenario, but not other way around. Of course the Javelin is considerably more expensive..

@Ithzzz 2 года назад

@@luvirini well almost is a key point here. There was a video from 1 or 2 days ago showing a Ukrainien ambush on russian offensive where a russian MBT got "ammo racked" by a NLAW. That would not have have been possible with a Javelin as they were way to close. But again as the other guy mentioned the takeaway should be that they have both weapons and they complement each other.

@defective6811 2 года назад

@@luvirini i can also speak from personal experience in full scale training ops that the slightly extra time it takes to use the Javelin's targeting lock, as opposed to dumb-fired systems like NLAW or older LAWs, can make the difference between a successfully engaged enemy vehicle and a dead AT section, especially at danger-close ranges.

@tanfosbery1153 2 года назад

No need to publish armour penetration if top attack used as don't think many tanks have roof armour much thicker than 30mm

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Indeed! Thanks for watching.

@hoobsgroove 2 года назад

nlaw seems to be the favourite

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Certainly the most pictured of the Western weapons so far.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

And check out www.saintjavelin.com who are selling Javelin and NLAW based merch to raise money for vulnerable people in Ukraine.

@biturboism Год назад

A couple of months later: St Javelin is canonically accepted after runaway success

@DJSockmonkeyMusic Месяц назад

Alas, my service was pre javelin, so I never got to fire one. They seem pretty great, especially how useful the controller is even after you're out of rounds. In my day we had the 66mm law thingys. The disposable tubes. Really abnoying to get assigned the law on exercise, cos you can't DO anything with it, its just a used empty tube. Part of why i always volunteered for the gun, during IETs. You dont have to carry the radio or the stupid useless "mock weapons." One ex, a battalion sized infantry patrol over 3 weeks, i got stuck carrying a training claymore set. It took up half my damn pack! No explosives, no smoke. Just bright blue, claymore mine sized plastic boxes. Sigh.

@elitedavidhorne8494 2 года назад

Wow Texas Instruments. They taught me how to read and improved my vocabulary with their speak and spell toy .

@zoiders 2 года назад

Are there any TOWs or MILAN out there? older systems yes but still more effective than most RPGs.

@thedungeondelver 2 года назад

I can't speak to MILAN but I don't think there's any TOW systems in use (yet). They're pretty big, bulky, require a 3-man crew. Not shoot-and-scoot optimal like NLAW and Jav.

@zoiders 2 года назад

@@thedungeondelver I know how big a TOW system is. The favoured method of embedding them in infantry operations is mounting them on four wheel drive vehicle. Which is something I think we will start to see if it has not already happened. The Ukrainians are already using the Russian MILAN copy.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

France has sent half a dozen MILAN apparently. The US has a load of Humvees mounted TOW that would be handy.

@Proletariat12 2 года назад

Ukraine is using Skifs. Basically the same thing. Ukrainian TOW missile, on a tripod. It can be fired remotely and has a long range.

@zoiders 2 года назад

@@Proletariat12 The Skif is a beam rider. The TOW is...well its a TOW - trail out wire.

@ChiTownGuerrilla 2 года назад

Ita awesome that the developers of the Javelin also made my calulater in middle school! Haha #merica #Texas Instruments.

@defective6811 2 года назад

5:48 I always hated having those god damn batteries. Fuckers would flare up in your ruck sack if they took even a sliver of shrapnel, let alone a round.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Ooh man really? Dicey.

@j2d4oi 2 года назад

Is there any Russian equivalent of the Javelin?

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

I don't believe Russia has a infrared guided ATGM. They have Kornet which is very effective but it rides a laser beam onto the target so isn't fire and forget.

@PropperNaughtyGeezer 2 года назад

9M133M-2 Kornet-EM.

@Satrus-Popeye Год назад

Shaped charges do not melt metal they just accelerate it to like 8 km per second at which point it acts like a fluid however is not of sufficient temperature melt metal.

@jjcoola998 2 года назад

2:50 some serious cope cage action

@mikeycraig8970 2 года назад

Keep seeing these vids for javelin, but isn't it Nlaw with most of the success.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

I have a video on NLAW already but basically the footage and photos we see are far from representative of what's going on on the ground, they're just snapshots so really we don't have a clear picture of which are being used the most or which are proving effective. I would bet that both systems are proving their worth. Thanks for watching! Check out the NLAW if you haven't already.

@doolittlegeorge 2 года назад

What War is that?

@ScottKenny1978 2 года назад

Point of order! A shaped charge does NOT spray molten metal through the armor, the liner is still solid. It's just moving so fast that the armor behaves like plastic. This has been proven by cutting a shaped charge into strips, taping in back together, and firing it into a water tank. What came out of the water tank was strips of metal.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

My mistake. Good way of explaining it. Thanks Scott.

@FirstDagger 2 года назад

2:44 US Army testing has shown that shape charges do produce a molten metal stream, please read up on it. It is a common misconception.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Do or don't?

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

My understanding is its a solid stream at the tip and molten at the edges with hydrodynamic flow.

@legneil 2 года назад

I want one lol

@zewalon 2 года назад

Okay lets be honest here. The Javelin is a badass bad news weapon.

@MrNamdang2011 2 года назад

So far, Ukraine forces have used local made anti tanks weapons and save Javelin missiles for later. The Javelin missiles will be used mostly to defend the city Kiev where Russia army were surrounding. Ukraine forces in Kiev must have at least 20,000 of anti tanks missiles of all kinds. Besides, Ukraine have a stock pile of millions old Russia made RPG-7 that are perfectly weapon for urban warfare.

@LondonSteveLee 2 года назад

NLAW makes much more sense for urban defence as it can be fired from indoor locations - unlike Javelin.

@Platinumsniper 2 года назад

Oh god the CLU uses those awful batteries.

@TocTeplv 2 года назад

LNR DNR already captured several.

@512TheWolf512 Год назад

as a Ukrainain, the american weapons are so overwhelmingly powerful, it's scary. good thing we're not fighting AGAINST something this good!

@williamtaylor8782 2 года назад

So why isn't the Ukrainian Army using the Javelins? Over 20,000 Javelins and British NLaws have been delivered to Ukraine, and only 300 have been fired with 280 kills as of March 12. Why isn't the Ukrainian Army using them more often?

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

As I said in the video that figure was one source, and as of March 6. They are using them. They just aren't showing us that they're using them. Same with Stingers we haven't seen any photos or footage of them in the field yet.

@LondonSteveLee 2 года назад

@@TheArmourersBench The Hind that was videoed being blasted out the sky was downed by a Polish-built MANPAD (Piorun).

@normanarmslave5144 2 года назад

So. when do we think that Russia will start creating a copy of these

@iMost067 2 года назад

its not cost effective for russian army, each rocket (without launcher) costs around 175.000$

@Ithzzz 2 года назад

with todays sanctions maybe they can afford a first gen one in about 20 years

@normanarmslave5144 2 года назад

@@iMost067 They managed to create en masse a copy of Stinger though.

@JunkMan13013 2 года назад

Well, at least the cope cages will save them.

@news_internationale2035 2 года назад

They might not just be using good quality metal. NATO tanks don't have a real counter to this themselves.

@Ruben-xc5ru 2 года назад

The Cope Gages will only defuse the smaller caliber rounds like that found on RPG-7. And the Javalin has enough penetration to go through the cage and the weak roof armor. Javalin is 127mm caliber and won’t be defused by the cope cage. These cages are only effective against rpg-7 fired from above like off a rooftop in cities.

@gustavomedrano3628 2 года назад

3:15 Oh! I'm sorry i thought it was the Roman empire...

@johngalt6929 2 года назад

No video, it didn't happen.

@MsCamperman 2 года назад

put it up putins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

@pranays 2 года назад

Russians captured a bunch of these in Donbas

@baneofbanes 2 года назад

Ukrainians still got more.

@HeHuang 2 года назад

you are too old. The most important anti-Tank weapon in Ukraine is MBT LAW (NLAW) not Javelin in this conflict.

@raylopez99 2 года назад

Not really. NLAW has a shorter range, but is cheaper, and can be fired from inside a house or apartment, making it good for urban warfare. Javelin is slightly superior. Go Ukraine!

@HeHuang 2 года назад

@@raylopez99 NO, you even don't know what is NLAW mean. The 'N' means Next Generation!!! The next generation means the next Javelin. For an Anti-Tank missile, the most important technique is not the fire range but is the armor destroy ability.

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

I already have a video on the NLAW :)

@raylopez99 2 года назад

@@HeHuang The Javelin has several models, not just what is shown in the video, and is generally more advanced. Bye. Apologies if I insulted you, that was just meant in jest. Bye.

@codyc8138 2 года назад

Send Hunter Biden to Ukraine. LoL. Let's Go Brandon

@graeme0 2 года назад

Don't watch this click bait shite, this video has NOTHING to do with Javelin in Ukraine, just copyright theft of library footage and regurgitated stats

@TheArmourersBench 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Graeme.

@raylopez99 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Ivan.