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Javier Bardem & Chloë Sevigny REACT to Erik Menendez’s ‘Monsters’ Criticism (Exclusive) 

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Chloë Sevigny and Javier Bardem talked to “Extra” about portraying José and Kitty Menendez in “Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story.” They reflected on the responsibility that comes with portraying real people - particularly when the public has a lot of opinions about them. Javier also reacted to Erik criticizing the series as inaccurate, saying he respects his feelings and emphasizing that the show tells the story from a variety of different perspectives. Chloë agreed that the Erik, Lyle, and the family have a right to give their opinion and said she’s looking forward to the Netflix documentary. “Monsters” is streaming on Netflix.

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Комментарии : 157   
@actuallymichael03
@actuallymichael03 20 дней назад
Whether people think the show was like the real story or not, you gotta give every single actor credit for their brilliant performances. They all did so amazing.
@michaelswinford4674
@michaelswinford4674 20 дней назад
Absolutely agree.
@nikkoramirez2695
@nikkoramirez2695 20 дней назад
Hated the show but if you look at the performances by each actor weather badly depicted by Ryan Murphy they all did great with the what was on the script. Javier made me believe he was Jose as well as Cooper playing Erik
@paulvoorhies8821
@paulvoorhies8821 20 дней назад
@@nikkoramirez2695 Cooper was outstanding.
@2Bad4YOUuu
@2Bad4YOUuu 20 дней назад
100% agree. The acting was so incredible particularly the main characters. As dark and disturbing as the material was and believe me I had to take breaks from the episodes-- I still had to see it through because it was so magnetizing.
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd 20 дней назад
It was very well done love the Milli Vanilli soundtrack😂.
@Glimax
@Glimax 20 дней назад
Javier deserves an award for that role, he was scary and so powerful, really amazing performance.
@juvylucero5774
@juvylucero5774 15 дней назад
True
@bkboy2384
@bkboy2384 20 дней назад
Bardem as usual when he's on screen absolutely dominates....the guy is an incredible actor
@susangriffin4
@susangriffin4 20 дней назад
Love him❤ great actor
@WinfreyWright
@WinfreyWright 16 дней назад
The things I have done (in my dreams) with Bardem ... might curl your hair.
@closki226
@closki226 20 дней назад
That moment she fell on the kitchen floor… only to pull herself back up for the wine bottle…. Amazing!
@renakmans3521
@renakmans3521 20 дней назад
Unbelievable and award worthy acting!!! ❤
@kallivino8346
@kallivino8346 20 дней назад
Javier carried the whole series. What an actor, kudos.
@SupriyaAN
@SupriyaAN 20 дней назад
The guy who played Erik did.
@DawnGreen-wn4hr
@DawnGreen-wn4hr 20 дней назад
@@SupriyaANNikolas Chavez wasn’t bad either! All good!
@splinterbyrd
@splinterbyrd 20 дней назад
Totally agree. I think people are misinterpreting it. It’s not a documentary. The films did not present much of the story as absolute truth. It's presenting what people think about it. That's the hallmark of the case; hystetical public opinion whipped up by media and most of it the product of wild imagination. We're left none the wiser at the end of it, and that's how it should be. Only the people who were there know what did and didn't happen.
@meleh_m
@meleh_m 16 дней назад
That’s what confuses me the most to what people are mad about, like Ryan Murphy didn’t create the different views and theories that people had at the time he just collected them for his show to show how we will never know the truth, and it’s okay to think what you want with the situation.
@cali-sun7727
@cali-sun7727 20 дней назад
The acting all the way around was phenomenal🎉
@simongander3089
@simongander3089 20 дней назад
To me the series was pretty clearly stating that we will never know the entire truth and that all events were interpretations of each persons point of view. It's clearly fiction with sprinkles of truth.
@karenganzkow118
@karenganzkow118 18 дней назад
Finally someone with sense! There are so many women on IG and TT that actually believe the actors are the real brothers or that each scenario was real and have already inundated the state. Mental illness is rampant. They forget they were 18 and 21 and could have walked away...not premeditated a dozen shots and gone on a spending spree. Some of us saw this in real time and watched the trial. No remorse. But in this world now...pretty is never guilty now. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@carmenventuro5087
@carmenventuro5087 20 дней назад
why did'nt the writiers talk with Lyle and Erik?
@graveburgers
@graveburgers 20 дней назад
Because they don’t care about the truth.
@Amira_em
@Amira_em 20 дней назад
they don’t care about them all they want is fame n money
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d 20 дней назад
They were presenting different viewpoints that existed when this case occurred. This is what people do not understand.
@MrZavalon74
@MrZavalon74 20 дней назад
@@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d That is why they had to talk to the brothers in first place.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d 20 дней назад
@@MrZavalon74 Not necessarily. I think Ryan was trying to portray the views of how the public saw this case not how the brothers saw the case.
@lolah3838
@lolah3838 20 дней назад
The exploitive nature of this and other Ryan Murphy projects that I've watched makes me feel dirty for having done so. I could only get through 1 + 1/2 episodes of this one. As usual, the performances are good but how anyone has the gall to defend this type of project against words of the actual victims who know the actual truth, is beyond me.
@taythegypsy
@taythegypsy 16 дней назад
I totally agree. Ryan Murphy is questionable… having said that, these actors did amazing.
@kbrightheart
@kbrightheart 20 дней назад
Chloe Sevigny is an amazing actress!!!!!!!!!!!!
@adsads994
@adsads994 20 дней назад
great acting!
@dynamicvoltage9765
@dynamicvoltage9765 18 дней назад
Wasn't really a fan of the show, but Javier Bardem was amazing in it. He's creepy, evil, nice, and hilarious all at once. Just continues to prove how good of a character actor he is.
@m.b1865
@m.b1865 20 дней назад
Monsters The Lyle And Erik Menendez Story Is So Very Incredible !
@shanexxb
@shanexxb 20 дней назад
crazy still saying “alleged” about something you can clearly look into and see other professionals opinions on what happened… disappointing they didn’t do any research before taking these roles
@ellestegs
@ellestegs 20 дней назад
They have to if they don't want to get sued. Very common.
@HfAX-ir1ip
@HfAX-ir1ip 14 дней назад
“other professionals opinions” ….. key word “opinions”! Stop being over-emotional and face the fact that we’ll probably never know the real truth - whether or not you believe them.
@graveburgers
@graveburgers 20 дней назад
1:50 “allegedly”, ridiculous, it DID HAPPEN. Why are these people so reluctant to say the abuse DID happen?
@GerlardTheSeaLion
@GerlardTheSeaLion 20 дней назад
I hate to be that person, because i belive the brothers as well, but in all reality.. «allegedly» is the right phrase, as we’ll never know for sure.
@MidnightRain111
@MidnightRain111 20 дней назад
There were kid corn photos of the brothers taken and kept by both parents. These were presented at the trial. These actors should be ashamed of themselves for defending child rapists
@MidnightRain111
@MidnightRain111 20 дней назад
​@@GerlardTheSeaLionwe do know for sure because there was evidence presented at the trial
@paulvoorhies8821
@paulvoorhies8821 20 дней назад
@@MidnightRain111. Oh, I hate child corn. Chinese food.
@constanzasaucedo7045
@constanzasaucedo7045 20 дней назад
​@@GerlardTheSeaLion there's plenty evidence tho, the way ppl are so reluctant to call it what it is (r4pe, child abuse) make it seem like u just gotta take their word for it when in reality it's basically proven that they were abused
@piapadmore430
@piapadmore430 20 дней назад
They were amazing✨👌🏻
@ekagelashvily5192
@ekagelashvily5192 18 дней назад
Chloe deserves an Oscar, such a talented actress
@the_thinker69
@the_thinker69 19 дней назад
he should win an award for his performance
@alisabarrett5653
@alisabarrett5653 18 дней назад
The parents were the monsters. This case happened in the 90s. Boomers were "raising" their children and adults were agast that kids would hurt let alone kill the parents. Reasonably so. At the time, you were not supposed to question your parents. Most parents still thought they were like God, everything they did was correct and if their child questioned them or asked for accountability for their bad behavior, they were out of line. My 15 year old brother got kicked out of our house for not "respecting" my mom and step dad. No adults questioned my mom's decision. No one questioned how the Menedez brothers were treated. It was never brought up in conversations about them. They were immediately guilty for disrespecting, hurting their parents, and killing them. What we now understand is, they were badly abused. In an abusive home you aren't taught ways to cope with the stress of abuse. Abusers want you stressed out. You aren't taught ways to get out, you aren't encouraged to talk to a therapist. There's no healthy conflict resolution. One person was God and they were to do what he said. What Lyle and Erik did was wrong and they should've went to prison. I don't feel enough weight was given to what they went through and that while they were old enough to know right from wrong, they weren't taught right from wrong in that home. They were raised by someone who refused to deal with their own trauma, who was emotionally immature, and probably had a personality disorder. That person was enabled and emboldened by their mother. They underwent horrific abuse and saw no way out. It's time to let the Menendez bothers out. I hope this docuseries draws attention to the case and people learn what really happened and rise up for these boys who went, almost seamlessly, from one prison to another.
@daphneymarc9420
@daphneymarc9420 20 дней назад
Is it just me, or do they look like they could be siblings?
@SupriyaAN
@SupriyaAN 20 дней назад
Me too… they look so similar. They didn’t look like a married couple onscreen.. they looked more like siblings..
@Mandi357
@Mandi357 20 дней назад
Very good performances
@cierrascales6770
@cierrascales6770 20 дней назад
They look great and the acting was top notch
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d 20 дней назад
Tammi was in her forties and Erik was in his 20’s when she targeted him. There is a huge age gap. I think Erik married his mother because Tammi looks like Kitty and Tammi was married to a pedophiler named Chuck Saccoman who was sleeping with Tammi’s older daughter and she said she suspected it but did not say anything just like Kitty who was married to a pedo named Jose and she knew Jose was sleeping with their older son. See the similarities
@victoriamarie35
@victoriamarie35 15 дней назад
Where did you get that info? I read she is 8 years older than Erik.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d 15 дней назад
@@victoriamarie35 No it was in an in an interview. She is 63 going on 64. Look it up in public records
@sharonsekhon9475
@sharonsekhon9475 6 дней назад
@@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d no. It's a ten year gap.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d 6 дней назад
@@sharonsekhon9475 yes that is a huge gap.
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d
@TheTruthSpeaks-j7d 6 дней назад
@@sharonsekhon9475 wow you really care about this. Tammi was 40 and Erik was 29 going on 30. I know one of prison guards at Folsom names Janice who is 6’1 and she spoke with Erik all the time so I’m pretty sure I have the data accurate
@awdree__
@awdree__ 20 дней назад
i just think chloë is really pretty
@annrodriguez2891
@annrodriguez2891 20 дней назад
Love her in everything...❤
@MaverickSteffen
@MaverickSteffen 20 дней назад
Javier made the father really lovable. Even the mental “abuse” scenes seemed to come from a place of love. I grew up in a deeply abusive home. Real abuse (in my opinion) comes from a deep hate of the child.
@kallivino8346
@kallivino8346 20 дней назад
@@MaverickSteffen Javier has worked on many films with the greatest Director of all time Almodovar whose themes are very similar to this. Nothing is black and white. I urde you to watch " Talk to her " a masterpiece. It turned my view of things upside down.
@angeliaxx
@angeliaxx 12 дней назад
I enjoyed his loveable personality as an abusive father- its scary. my mother was a nice woman to the outside world but mentally/emotionally abuse to use children. I always wanted to tell them... "she is not like this behind closed doors."
@MaverickSteffen
@MaverickSteffen 12 дней назад
@@angeliaxx lol, ditto. My foster mom sang at church every Sunday, then we come home and reminded me how ugly and stupid I was and how if I ever got married, the woman was only using me for money or something else. Such lovely things to say to a 10-year-old.
@angeliaxx
@angeliaxx 12 дней назад
@@MaverickSteffen its a heartbreaking experience. in the series, where Eric says when the person you love does things to you, you are not real. thats what trauma and cptsd feels like, you dont even feel real or human anymore but a branch tumbling in the wind. until you realize you are real and have to heal.
@sarasmith1255
@sarasmith1255 20 дней назад
Love both of these people fire
@TotoToto-qp2tt
@TotoToto-qp2tt 20 дней назад
Ryan Murphy should be jailed for turning their tragic story into one of his sick gay fantasies
@helenfong3339
@helenfong3339 20 дней назад
Yep, we all know who imagined the shower scene!
@planet-tyler666
@planet-tyler666 17 дней назад
O calm down FFS
@AA-qb7ni
@AA-qb7ni 12 дней назад
They need to win Emmys cos they were TERRIFYING to watch.
@WynnWynn-gl3fk
@WynnWynn-gl3fk 20 дней назад
I was a small child and I was invested in the case.
@taythegypsy
@taythegypsy 16 дней назад
Javier and Chloë did a fantastic job portraying these characters, especially not being that familiar. They were exactly how I imagined Jose and Kitty to be in real life. All 4 of the actors were phenomenal honestly.
@applebomb4091
@applebomb4091 20 дней назад
perfect casting!!
@marirothbauer5407
@marirothbauer5407 19 дней назад
I read two days ago that their Aunt said the parents were extremely cruel. I believe her frim what I read torturing your children is a crime. They did endure an horrific life for sure.
@davidlawton7845
@davidlawton7845 20 дней назад
These two were outstanding in these roles…great effort.
@carmenpalenske6685
@carmenpalenske6685 20 дней назад
They were not “boys”. That was a term their attorney used to elicit sympathy. They were over 18 and were young men who put time and effort in the murders of their parents.
@Blue-dc3rh
@Blue-dc3rh 19 дней назад
The psychiatrist who examined them said they had been so mentally stunted by the brutal abuse that they had the maturity of a 10-year-old. PLEASE do your research and you'll see that these brothers are victims who have served more than enough time. They were terrorized by their parents, their father was a powerful Hollywood executive
@Irishgirl7
@Irishgirl7 20 дней назад
The two of them did a fantastic job! Loved the series & the way Ryan Murphy shows it from different viewpoints. It was spot on reconstruction.
@ChrisMcCrowe
@ChrisMcCrowe 20 дней назад
Amazing performance!!!
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd 20 дней назад
I was very impressed with how well this was done and blown away by the Milli Vanilli soundtrack thought that was an awesome touch
@angeliaxx
@angeliaxx 12 дней назад
Chloe is Amazing. I loved her in AHC. Javier, again, killed it!!
@afrohitana
@afrohitana 18 дней назад
He is my SPANISH pride for sure! The skills are unbearable and undeniable... our best actor I'm so happy for him❤❤❤
@jennah5390
@jennah5390 20 дней назад
The fact that I hate these people confirms what a brilliant job they did. Outstanding!!! My God. What a cast.
@MISSRUE32MCGEE
@MISSRUE32MCGEE 18 дней назад
Javier Bardem 😍
@MamboKing215
@MamboKing215 12 дней назад
Crazy to think Bardem is evenly aged between the brothers.
@thatmetalchiick
@thatmetalchiick 20 дней назад
I think Ryan Murphy did amazing as he does with every project. I was affected by it.
@rafi.and.yehuda
@rafi.and.yehuda 20 дней назад
The more I hear about these boys in the movie and out of the movie they deserve to be free.If OJ got off so can these guys.
@patbrown2699
@patbrown2699 20 дней назад
Jose did not have an accent, he came and to the US very young there is video of him talking, no accent
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 20 дней назад
Relax
@connorq8497
@connorq8497 20 дней назад
This quite literally doesn’t matter at all
@mamapsims
@mamapsims 20 дней назад
Many people intentionally hide their accents. Maybe he's older and more secure in himself and his career and no longer wants to hide it.
@hollyjoc97
@hollyjoc97 20 дней назад
He absolutely did have an accent! There’s an old clip of him being interviewed on RU-vid
@AHORAN02
@AHORAN02 20 дней назад
In the video of him talking there’s a clear accent
@NiNa-nn3bm
@NiNa-nn3bm 13 дней назад
Javier served in Monsters
@duanetrankin6777
@duanetrankin6777 14 дней назад
This was a great movie. Amazing acting, script and direction. Kudos.
@lindawoodruff2772
@lindawoodruff2772 18 дней назад
Excellent acting.
@juguetedeldestino
@juguetedeldestino 13 дней назад
THE 4 OF THEM. GREAT CASTING!!! AMAZING. THE BOYS WERE GREAT!!!
@lilyrose3651
@lilyrose3651 20 дней назад
My beloved Javier Bardem, you are a professional but i humbly urge you with all respect of your work do not fend Ryan Murphy. Ryan Murphy disrespected the brothers completely. Ryan only focused to fufill his own perception and fantasy of just one person and that is Erik. So my utmost respectful actor Javier Bardem, let this be The last film you ever did with Ryan Murphy. Ever!!!! I love you wholeheartedly and with 100% respect don't take another role of Ryan Murphy. Just don't!
@mikaelemafi4618
@mikaelemafi4618 20 дней назад
Why I honestly did not recognize him. He looks so different for the role.
@chispuda
@chispuda 10 дней назад
They both did amazing!
@simonealmeida7854
@simonealmeida7854 11 дней назад
Woww....Two amazing actors. What a incredible actions of you both Congratulations.
@schingh1973
@schingh1973 6 дней назад
It’s a part of American history. Therefore, it’s open for discussion. I can appreciate Erik and Lyle wishing to be spoken to but, there’s no law saying that has to be done. I do believe they have paid their dues & I do think they were molested but, when you go to jail you have to expect that you’re not going to be consulted. It’s Hollywood. In the end, I hope the series helps them with their release.
@mondm4302
@mondm4302 20 дней назад
Javier bardem se llevó esa serie
@tjlpartners8263
@tjlpartners8263 20 дней назад
These questions are so bad. Who writes these questions?
@VeggiesWithAttitude
@VeggiesWithAttitude 18 дней назад
Eric and Lyle commenting from prison: “every like this gets I’ll do one pushup”
@moniii444
@moniii444 20 дней назад
They were great in the acting
@deborahdipaulo4636
@deborahdipaulo4636 19 дней назад
Thank you
@norijean3279
@norijean3279 20 дней назад
Kitty 💖💕💕💕
@yowvapaherda9187
@yowvapaherda9187 20 дней назад
Great performance from all.
@anakindonissa
@anakindonissa 20 дней назад
0:15 the world had obsessed with ? 😂 which world ?
@SM-jk4fq
@SM-jk4fq 20 дней назад
Extremely disappointing that two acclaimed actors would take part in explicit defamation and slander of two boys who were victims of parental abuse and rape from a young age. This is a non-fictional story which the boys further victimised within society and such a broken justice system by getting life without parole following their honest accounts from so much childhood trauma. The accounts of exploitation are unimaginably painful, only to then have these two wealthy actors putting out a distorted misrepresented account simply for profit. Shame on them for their lack of humanity
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 19 дней назад
Awful crime case; very scary sociopathic young men.
@smwforyoutube9213
@smwforyoutube9213 14 дней назад
looks like Al Pacino !!
@fefejones81
@fefejones81 20 дней назад
Ryan Murphy should do JonBenét Ramsey. But, her father and brother are sue happy so it might not work 🤔
@1stunna91
@1stunna91 20 дней назад
If only the parents survived and were able to give this interview too. Those brothers lied. Norma Novelli busted them out that part wasn’t just added in the series for “show” it really happened. She recorded him admitting to fake crying on the stand and everything else. “The Abuse Excuse” all of you defending them should be ashamed. You guys will believe anyone who sheds tears “🥺”. They woulda been crying laughing “🤣” rich 💰 had Norma Novelli not busted them out to the public and they got away it.
@Blue-dc3rh
@Blue-dc3rh 19 дней назад
I've listened to the actual Norma Novelli tapes and that is absolutely FALSE. What Lyle said to Norma is "I'm a product of what happened to me, I get emotional and I will be myself on the stand". You can search the tapes on youtube and hear it yourself. PLEASE stop lying and stop defending this Netflix show that was made to slander the brothers. The brothers have NEVER been caught saying that they lied about the abuse.
@1stunna91
@1stunna91 19 дней назад
@@Blue-dc3rh you listened to that one little 7 min clip that’s floating around on youtube LOL.. there’s HOURS of recordings that we haven’t heard. Keep defending a murderer if you want to.“The Abuse Excuse” that’s all I have to say.
@tinnnn1
@tinnnn1 20 дней назад
Wish Javier hadn't dyed his hair ... be grey and be beautiful
@nancyjean2700
@nancyjean2700 19 дней назад
I like the doctor, he act funny
@jpallende22
@jpallende22 20 дней назад
Bardem is so hot !! 😊
@maggiehendon9946
@maggiehendon9946 19 дней назад
Jesus Christ died for our sins was buried and rose again the third day. I hope all who reads this will realize your a sinner (we all are) and turn to Jesus and trust and believe that He died for your sins was buried and rose again the third day but trust in Him alone to save you from your sins and hell.
@pwallace5359
@pwallace5359 20 дней назад
It wasn’t a documentary. It’s all about entertainment. These actors only care about getting paid. I’d have more respect for them if they would just come right out and say that. Heck even documentaries are half fake.
@Literaduranet
@Literaduranet 20 дней назад
usually actors care about being paid because they´re workers.
@helenfong3339
@helenfong3339 20 дней назад
It is their job. If they spoke what was really on their mind, their career would be over.
@luzmarinavivanco4800
@luzmarinavivanco4800 19 дней назад
Yo conozco Padres que estan criando Desde muy pequenos Monstruos futuros a la Sociedad no le Importa que Pena!!@@
@Kelly-mi1yz
@Kelly-mi1yz 20 дней назад
He talks for way too long
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd 20 дней назад
We can argue that it was a horrific crime and that these kids were just spoiled brats however there is evidence of abuse not sure the degree of abuse that was never really proven. The argument for me is that they were old enough just to move the fuck out and go on about their lives. They weren’t little kids and they weren’t young teenagers
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 19 дней назад
Exactly; they were young men, not little boys.
@SLEVY-ro9sp
@SLEVY-ro9sp 20 дней назад
I did not like these actors, no good. The monsters there were the father & mother of the menendez family. The 2 sons are just victims of terrible abuse, not that murder is justified, but imagine their life! It is so complex, but anyway, these actors, so boring, so meh... I am also a Spanish speaker, & in Almodovar films I used to like Bardem, but now he seems bored, no spark. Her, well, same... That is my own opinion...
@delsmontgomery
@delsmontgomery 20 дней назад
???? what tf are you talking about
@soren7550
@soren7550 20 дней назад
It's this thing called a double meaning. Lyle and Eric are monsters because they killed their unarmed parents and lied about their deaths. Kitty and Jose are monsters because of the horrid abuse they did to their children (and likely others, if what that one guy from Menudo says is true).
@SLEVY-ro9sp
@SLEVY-ro9sp 20 дней назад
@@soren7550 Yes, sure, I understand. I´m not saying killing is an aswer, but the case of these 2 brothers is incredibly complex y terribly sad, including abuse, rape, hittings, belittling... the list goes on... & that guy from Menudo, whose name is Roy Rosselló, 51, alleges he was drugged and raped as a teen by late Hollywood executive Jose Menendez... In spanish we have a saying, "si el rio suena es porque agua lleva", meaning "if it sounds like it, it must be true"... Again, just my own opinion
@Literaduranet
@Literaduranet 20 дней назад
your own opinion comes from a total lack of knowledge
@cameraofchaoshollywood
@cameraofchaoshollywood 20 дней назад
The series is campy and focused too much on the abuse when everyone knows it never happend. The real story was the mom.
@constanzasaucedo7045
@constanzasaucedo7045 20 дней назад
ur late to the party we know the abuse happened bc guess what there's proof.
@dandansfu
@dandansfu 20 дней назад
assume that the detail of the abuse is true, I actually think the show didn't show enough. out of 9 episode, they really didnt show much
@ThomasAlanRugg
@ThomasAlanRugg 18 дней назад
Buy a real mic lol😅
@mimachan2557
@mimachan2557 20 дней назад
i swear i remember true story of a sister & brother in one country were in love sexually , when their parents discovered them , their kids killed them , i sooo believe the story in the series , i dont believe the father abused them sexualy
@shawnaraska-pm6qd
@shawnaraska-pm6qd 20 дней назад
We can argue that it was a horrific crime and that these kids were just spoiled brats however there is evidence of abuse not sure the degree of abuse that was never really proven. The argument for me is that they were old enough just to move the fuck out and go on about their lives. They weren’t little kids and they weren’t young teenagers
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