Jay's Take On MoFi Sourcepoint 10 Loudspeaker! 

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Lots of excellent reviews of these speakers on RU-vid from those who frequented the show, even from many doubters. Could be expectation bias in some cases but I doubt that was true for most listeners. I think you were a little unfair here. There’s nothing wrong with not liking the speaker, though the listening room is often not ideal in shows. But a negative opinion would have been enough. You seemed more interested in making your audience believe that your predictions will come to pass than any real analysis of the speaker short of lacking bass.

You may be entirely correct in everything you said and have the insider track to back up these feelings. I’m willing to extend that sort of trust, we met briefly at CAF and you seem like a genuine music lover who loves to tinker and take us on your journey. Thank you for that, I think all of us appreciate it or we wouldn’t be here. This is the first time I’ve ever heard you talk down to the community. We should try hard and especially those of us blessed enough to have hi tier systems to treat people with respect even if we don’t agree. We don’t demean people at shelters and we don’t demean people for not having the same budget or experiences as us.

I think this is the funniest thing I’ve seen for ages . Get it in your nearest gas station 😂😂😂

Happy holiday Jay!! This Mofi speaker will certainly become another Elac for sure. I remember the Elac Adante AS-61 used to be around $2,500 when new, now being sold for less than $800. This Mofi speaker will follow that path very soon. Just give it one or two years.

I have been in audio for 28 years and have seen fads come and go and seen many non truths in audio and hype over the years. These Mo Fi speakers are no exception. Having said that there are many well informed people in the industry that have heard these speakers and the reviews are very positive. So Maybe this speaker is an exception. Even if it is a great speaker it is still a lot of hype surrounding it. I AM VERY SKEPTICAL on any product that is so hyped.

Jay I'm sure your info's spot on, I did buy the elac adante af61 (under 2k) & elec vela 409 (under 4k), heavily discounted on the used market, they're both great speakers for the money tho, so looking forward to maybe picking up sourcepoint 10 down the line if really cheap. I stopped buying new speakers last year, the depreciation was too much, scored almost new Focal Sopra 3's still under warranty for under 10k, so deals are out there, & I'm loving my used finds.. Really enjoy your channel, thanks for all you do & warning us about the lowdown behind the scenes. Happy Thanksgiving to You & Your family. Godspeed.

Jay, these are exactly my thoughts about the MoFi Speakers! It feels like 80% of the entire RU-vid Loudspeaker universe revolves around these MoFi speakers! Everything that Andrew Jones does is always a huge show and he reinvents the wheel every time, with each of his many, many speaker models. Whenever Jones presents his speakers in public, I always think he is the perfect insurance agent, talkative, funny and even likeable, he is talking someone a button on the cheeky. In any case, I had the same thoughts as you. And I think you can still say that without making someone outraged.

Hey Jay. I didn't get a chance to hear the speakers at CAF, but I saw the Audiophile Junkie's video of it at CAF, and WOW! It sounds very good from the sound clips. I haven't heard the Polks in person either, but I would be very surprised if they come close to these. And at $3800, they're not cheap, but attainable for the common man. I think you should do your due diligence and do a full review.

I don’t get this video. You haven’t lived with it, you want to compare it to speakers at $10K+ and you are taking a side against Mofi. I think you are correct in your initial impression, let me do this for my private channel, ie those that asked for it. Maybe everything you are saying is going to come true but I believe you have come out with a negative bias way before the masses have had a chance to experience it. I like your videos but I see this one making you look like most of the haters out there that have an axe to grind, true or not? It sure comes off that way! One final question, did you really need to make this as a public announcement statement for the betterment of audiophiles everywhere or just to even a score? You make some great videos, this is not one of them.

Or, you know, it could be a GOOD SOUNDING speaker from a designer who is very, very well respected in the industry. This speaker could have been put out by anyone in the industry and the fact that it was designed by Andrew Jones means it's going to sound incredible for the price, it's why he was revered at TAD and ELAC. Is it better than a Wilson Alexx V? No, but for the price it's spectacular, and I have no relation to MoFi other than as a customer.

Great honest review Jay. Even Steve Guttenberg, who never gives a bad review, says it lacks bass and on a lot of music is too bright. Sometimes it seems the more reviews of a product the more disappointing it turns out to be. In the past I’ve been burned a few times by many outstanding reviews. Never again.

Greatest speaker ever built!! They make digital music sound analog!!!😉

I thought the Audiophiliac interview and then Steve's review after living with it for a few days was really good. I enjoy an Andrew Jones interview. I think he is brilliant and likely has a good design. I'll not trade my big speakers for this, but I would look at it if and when I move from my big house into a condo and need to downsize. Hopefully Jay's prediction is true and there will be a ton available on the used market. BTW, I did not even know who Mofi was until Andrew got a job there. I still don't buy vinyl so I could care less if they had some controversy in other parts of its business. I am only interested in this speaker from their entire business. Similarly, I will choose to buy a Sony product based on its merits and do not care that Sony did media distribution.

Glad I saw your video. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

A lot of dealers have dropped the price on The MoFi Sourcepoint 10's to $3,000 so I wonder if they are all hype and not selling like Mofi anticipated. Based on every review I have seen on RU-vid, they get a very high rating and Jay provides a great analysis on why everyone loves them.

As usual you cleared the back fence. Walk off home run! You're rollin! Profs!

Thanks Jay...you remind me of the good old days when Harry Pearson would skewer products and could actually sound the death knell of audio manufacturers with his brutal honesty. I can't remember in recent times reading any bad equipment reviews. All the magazines reviewers are afraid of hurting their advertising dollars and manufacturers reps that are personal friends with that you never see a negative review anymore. Please keep this brutal honesty up and don't succumb and get too friendly with the manufacturers, you are a rare breed indeed.

Maybe it is hype, but maybe these speakers are scaring the sh-t out of an industry that is full of over priced, and over hyped equipment. I think a rant against $10,000 cables is more warranted. How much would I lose buying a pair of $100,000 speakers or an amp, after selling them a few months later? $40,000? How much would I lose when the manufacturer conviently comes out with an upgraded model that every reviewer says is now much better than what I just bought? Now I'm down another $20,000. I went to the Capital Audio Show. I am not saying that the Mofi Sourcepoint 10's were the best I heard at the show. However, they definitely sounded better than some $50,000 speakers I heard. It could be the music they were playing. When I arrived home, I ordered a pair. If I lose $2000 after a few months, so be it. Yes, maybe Mofi is in trouble legally, and maybe these speakers are a treat to the audio industry. Maybe Andrew Jones will be forced to sell the Source Point 10's through another manufacturer. All scenarios could be true. I still have a pair of $100 Pioneer speakers that Andrew Jones made. They kick a-s, so i am not cancelling my order.

You were spot on. They're good but they have been purely hyped

I think the Polks you are referring too are the R200's. Those bookshelves are amazing bro!! I also love the entire legend series from Polk.

It's only natural to be enthusiastic about a new somewhat affordable speaker. There have been several good models released in the last 5-6 years. If I get interested in it, I'll have a serious listen. The speaker may be as you say, over hyped, but there's good reason to be. Andrew Jones is liked and respected throughout the community. His designs typically punch above their price point. As for predicting the future, many foolish have tried and failed. The others started a religion.

I'd love to see the frequency measurements of this new speakers. Taming a cone breakup of 10" driver is not easy. But a custom driver and 3. or 4. order filter its doable. If the speakers has a flat curve this thing will play really nice. Matched with a sub tuned low this could be a killer setup.

I don't think it was designed to take on the no barrier high-end. It was designed to fill a void between your 1k speaker and say a 8k speakers with a particular sound signature. In which very few companies I feel do or give a enough sound signature options. I just had the Kef Reference 1 in house to play with as well as a set of Focal Sopra 1. As good as they both were at micro details, finesse and imaging they both were missing something. There always feels like there is a trade off in a lot of speakers in that price range from what I like. It's either finesse or grunt and not much in between for under 6k. Some want a tout mid range, with some meat, as well as some micro details. I don't need something that goes down to 21hz, Im not listening to Dj magic mike tracks but when the bass guitar strums at volume I want my nuts to vibrate, but I also what to be able to place that instrument in its space. There are speakers that can do both as I'm sure most of the speakers you have owned do both and do it very well, however most I found were above the 10k mark even in the used market or full towers. I think these will compete very well with Mission or Harbeth's sound at a fraction of the price. They may not be all what everyone wants them to be but I think this fits a niche and maybe a good thing as other companies may follow suite in or around this price.

Thanks for your opinion on speaker distribution. The segment beginning at 13:51 says it all.

Andrew Jones said he started work on this speaker 18 months ago , so your point of Mofi trying to safe face because of the lawsuit doesn't stand. The lawsuit was filed long after the speaker was in development.

You hit the nail on the head everybody raved about that speaker. But now who do you trust?

Hi Jay,you were so freaking wright about those mofi speakers. Now all the you tubers are doing tests, how good the speakers are and we are selling them bla,bla bla. Love your channel.Michael from Germany

I heard the Polk Reserve R200s at Axpona and I LOVED them. They are an amazing value at $800.

I was at Capital Audiofest. I was not impressed with the Source Point tens. It’s to much money for what you get. Your right, a 2000 dollars price point is probably what it’s worth. It’s to big to be a true bookshelf, but it weak to be a floor standing all sound room filler.

Happy Thanksgiving Jay! You just served us a big plate of brutal Mo-Fi honesty. If people buy this speaker just because of the hype, that is coming as you predict, they will be the turkey!

I can see playing out much like you're predicting big guy. We'll get to watch it all play out. Thanks for sharing.

100% Agree with you on this, also Tannoy been building this type of speakers for years ,it's nothing new.

After reading through the comments, now I'm really hoping you'll bring a pair into your lab.

I let all the people who have really distorted power to their systems and even those that (think) (key word)they have great power to their system and I will wait for those people's Prayers to be spoken

I suspect that they're good speakers for the price, and that when they get discounted or come on the used market they will be very good for the price.

Joy, finalmente uno che parla sinceramente!!!! Saluti dall'Italia

Jay if you liked the Polk R200's this much, you must audition the full range Polk R700 towers. Unbelievable value for $2000, leave you wanting nothing more, whether its tonality, imaging, attack dynamics or agile deep bass.

Thank you Jay, that’s excellent advice!

Jay-tradamas, I like it and await the future results. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family Jay! I was thinking of getting rid of my KEFs LS50 Metas but I was going to wait for the hipe to subside.

Great take, appreciate the review, and your opinion. Would be nice if you put together a few brands like Polk, Paradigm, Mofi, etc to give a comprehensive review at certain price points. You are coming from 50K speakers and up, so in reality, a 4K speaker won't hold any merit. I do like your take on the Polk though. Thumbs up bro.

For that price you could get a better sounding pair of bookshelves and a REL or SVS sub imo. It will definitely outperform those MoFo Sourchery 10 speakers. People don't fall for these hype speakers..

Very rare to be shocked by how good a system is based on its low price compared to the ultra high end. Usually the disclaimer is its really good for its price, But is that such a bad thing? For many applications maybe you dont need that ultra high end but sometimes a good system will be good enough like maybe a Magnepan 3 series or even a good bookshelf thats even less expensive. If you want to be shocked check out how good personal audio has become ie headphones what you can get for the price, I would say certain headphone systems even beat the high end in detail and transparency rather easily at the expense of sound stage and the physical brutality of the low end sometimes. Again one searches for the right system for the application. And the advice of waiting in the second hand market is great, it applies to the high end as well. You could get a Raidho for half the MSRP if you wait for it - thats fantastic value for the ultra high end. Cheers.

Thanks everyone!

Love you brother.happy thanks giving all the way from 🇿🇦

Holly doodle. What a great video and a common sense revelation. I'm definitely going to wait. What's better for the money, SP 10 or ELAC Unify UB5?

Really enjoying your channel! You mentioned a Polk speaker you recently heard. May I ask which model it was? Thanks

Thanks,Jay HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Simply put, you only get what you pay for. It's a straightforward truth, that in most cases, is reality. Avoid the hype train - nothing more needs to be said. Happy thanksgiving, Jay.

Jay, what would even better, if you brought the SourcePoint 10 into your lab for a qualified review.

Mobile Fidelity coming out with a near $4,000 speaker after being criticized about their digital records costing too much shows how much impact this Mofi controversy caused. None, virtually. They aren't about to let a bunch of people on the forums change how expensive they price their products. They continue on, same as usual. If it weren't for "some" money loss due to this semi-scandal; maybe the speakers would be $2,000 retail instead of $3,800. Most speakers if you look inside and screw out the drivers are drivers not made by the speaker company, but sourced from manufacturers who make speaker drivers. Sometimes in a $10,000/pr. loudspeaker there will be only $400 worth of drivers inside. They did seem to go to the trouble of making their own special driver for this speaker. That's a good sign.Hearing it at a show = you don't really know its potential. That's why credible audio reviewers live with a speaker and play it every day for a week or two before passing judgement and writing their review.. Maybe it is great, maybe it is only very good. Who knows at this point, except someone who owns it with great associated electronics, who has been listening to it for quite a while on a variety of recordings of various types of music in the relaxing environment of their home.

Mofi = Bang for buck buyers. My eye is on the Sonus Faber Aida 2. Musical and organic sound is what I like. The masses chase follow herd theory typically.

Even though I hope the sourcepoint10 is really good. What you have said is so true. The Magnepan LRS was hyped by sort of every reviewer and magazine but when it was measured (probably the most extensive review done by Amir in audiosciencereview) it turned out to be extremely bad, not even close to good enough. This has been done in the industry before.

You're the only one. LOL. GREAT reviews so far.

Maybe Jay could have OCD Mike on to explain what he liked about the speakers, and why he decided to sell them.

I agree with Steve Guttenberg's review of the SourcePoint 10 - images very well as one would expect from a concentric design, but the tweeter plays a bit too hard.

Way to go Jay, keep it real for your viewers. Thank you for explaining how the industry works with all of the inside palm greasing.

This makes perfect sense.

I am an individual who enjoys music.I have ordered a set of Sourcepoint 10 after listening to them for about 3 hours with my favorite songs.It sounds like you were paid to run this product into the ground.ps I got them at 10% off msrp.Current speakers are Klipsch Forte IV I’m my HT and Focal Kanta N°2 in my lounge.They are by no means better than my Focals and I won’t be selling them.I want a pair for my bar when I have friends around.They’ll be used with a 12” SVS sub.Like I said these are a great speakers ,but not high end.

Agreed ! Unless you're coming from a $ 300 speaker

What a 'Hit Piece'! I agree that MoFi are scum bags for deceiving the 'audiofools' who know that vinyl sounds better than digital, only to find that most vinyl they gush over is sourced from digital. That disqualifies most high profile reviews as full of B.S. (not you Jay) However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the MoFi speaker. Andrew Jones was hired by MoFi two years ago! You are implying that it was to cover up the digital-to-vinyl scandal.(which did not exist at the time) It is disappointing to see your bias against MoFi (deserved) cloud what should be an objective review of the speaker.

I would also say you shouldn’t make a decision based on a hotel room system. It’s a midrange machine that should be paired with a sub probably.

I recently picked up the SP8s for my small room... I got the bug to open them up, they have mediocre cross-overs, wiring and thr driver it self was small and not stout.. not what I expected, but $2100, they are ok... I still may consider the buckhardt S400Mll or the Kef R3 Meta.. what do you all think?

In reality comparing these speakers to any speaker over $10,000 is silly and inappropriate. The question is how do these speakers compare to the Klipsch Forte 4's and Dynaudio Special 40's of the world? Those are its competition and none other. If the answer is they are as good or better, then MoFi has done its job. I think those of us (and I include myself) who live in the rarified air of owning 5 figure speakers should perhaps step away from denigrating those with 5 figure systems.

Jay: You spent 14 out of 15 minutes of your RU-vid blasting MoFi because of marketing fraud (absolutely no secret to anyone) but I didn't hear anything about their speaker except that the Polk is a better bargain. Sounds like a major Axe to grind!

They got a ho hum review from the Audiophiliac . I love the look of them and really want them to be bad arse. I’ve heard audio shows aren’t the best place to audition speakers. I was Leary of MOFI after I saw a rebranded cheap phono stage ( now with Mofi’s name on it) but twice the price.

Wholeheartedly one man's opinion. A good angle though.

While everyone's systems play a DISTORTED mess of what was intended, those that get that most systems, even the systems enjoyed by so many are a horrific wreck compared to the near perfection that is possible if people did not keep drugged on their own HOPIUM and self delusional tendencies regarding their prized finds and supposed bulletproof systems

Jay is NOT being cynical at all; there was a store in Brooklyn Heights called Innovative Audio and as soon as the The Absolute Sound gave a rave to a product, the dealer carried that product! It was a closed incestuous circle; the store was not carrying the product because they believed in said product but because of what was written in the magazines, hence baked in customers. People used to call this "flavor of the month" products; reminds me of stock traders who "churn" their clients; in that market it is called "pump and dump"; they would hype a stock, the price would go up, and then sell it off. In audio it is the reviewer saying I was hearing things I never heard before; one year later crickets; magazines need new content to feed the beast; onto speaker xyz, it even beats the MoFi Sourcepoint 10; it is the new king and gets the crown at this price. And so it goes; end of rant.

It would be great to see a blind listening test between these MoFi speakers and another 10" monitor, maybe the Focal Trio11 Be 10 inch Powered Studio Monitor. When you include the price of amplifiers, these are very similar in price.

When you ask the designer the F3 response of his speaker and he says he doesn’t use that. Red Flag right there. And then he tells you the F6 is somewhere around mid 40 hz hmmm. They also switched Amp’s from the Rose to a 10k BAT the last day of the show. Last straw was all the salesman ship with playing just small clips of music that highlighted the speakers. Buy hey buy what you like.

I'm willing to give the Source10 a chance but you are right, it's gonna be this years' LS50 and then it will be dumped onto the secondary market and I'll pounce then!

I agree... the Polk Reserve series is a very good value! Honestly I'd check out JBL L100 for a few more bucks

Thanks for sharing with everyone

Jay thank you for all your work ,,…. Completely off topic,,..Have you gotten stuck inside that slide tube ?

Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for putting out a video today!!!! I’ve heard some good things about the Elac Navis series designed by A.J., but guess those are for customers who don’t mind speakers with internally powered drivers. Andrew’s presentation was interesting and somewhat educational IMO at CAF. Am wondering if you would come away with a different impression if these speakers were in a different setup/rig??than at the show? Wonder how they’d compare in a Luxman MX10 setup pitted against KEF R1’s, KEF REF 1’s (another concentric speaker), B&W 705’s, 805’s, and Magico A1’s?????? Hopefully most will get a chance to audition before buying, rather than buying them at the grocery store next to the anti fungal treatments (you said they would be itching to buy)…

Jay, source point 10 is about Andrew Jones. You obviously don’t know anything about driver structure and the speaker structure history. I dont even care if the speaker sounds great.. Andrew jones is an asset to this Audio community. FYI: I didn’t ask your opinion on source point 10. When you say: you ALL. Please don’t generalize.l and try to stick to facts. Opinions are easy but respect the man for designing something truly unique!! You definitely lost my respect. Happy Listening!!

It's not just MoFi, it's Andrew Jones and a new and unique design.

"Gas stations probably will carry it..." 😅😅 that is the Audiophile Quote of the Year. Man oh man , me o my.. OCD Mikey has rubbed off of Jay 😆

Can we infer from the setting of the video that you might have been hinting that a backyard burial would be appropriate for these speakers?

I think first owning and then reviewing these speakers relative to other bookshelf speakers you own or at least have owned under $10K would have been a better way to go IMO. This takedown based purely on what you heard at the show doesn't make you look good whether or not you are proven correct in the long run because your motives don't seem altruistic.

I think you should have waited to give these a proper listen before passing judgement so strongly.

:: while i think they may be hoping to recoup vinyl losses and save face, my understanding is that jones was hired on long before the digital step revelation, and thus bad timing :: so it’ll be interesting to see if there is as much movement on these speakers as originally planned/ hoped for

Jay I agree 100% with your comments they dont even come close to the 3600$ VANDERSTEEN 2CE Signature III. Come on people clean the wax out of your ears!!!!

lol Jay! "local shelters" 😆😂

I really dont see what this has over a classic Tannoy other than the diffraction cabinet. But for the $3800 you could buy a 12" Tannoy concentric that will rock your world

Happy Thanksgiving. I think an important factor here is that this is a "Andrew Jones" design. An aspiring figure within the hobby who is not only a brilliant engineer but a really decent human being. Who has brought forth many successful speakers in the past. Even with all the backlash surrounding the Mo-Fi debacle, I think any product he comes up with will be received favorably. Being so well respected, who in their right mind would pan his latest creation? I agree, pretty clever of Mo-Fi to bring him into the fold. To you point, would it garner so much praise or would the reviewing community be more nit-picky about its shortcomings, if it was released under a pseudonym from a startup company?

Don't care much about the Mofi digital vinyl controversy. What I know is that my DSOTM mofi copy sounds better than EVERY other DSOTM copy I've tried so even if its not fully analog end to end I DON'T CARE.

Thank man. I already started seening many bullshit paid reviews on youtube.

These speakers were in development long before the Mofi vinyl “scandal.” Every once in a while in passing Insee a topic on your page that catches my interest so I listen. I’ve never subscribed and won’t now. Such BS about a product you’ve not listened to in a space you’re familiar with. I’m was there, I was impressed especially because it was powered by (a comparatively) modest system in a hotel room. I was equally impressed with the Q Acoustics room and blown away by klaus’s Liquids at $5800. I digress, your opinion is your opinion. Even if unfounded.

Jay, your a solid 260lbs. Good review.

The mofi scandal was in July , I'm sure this speaker was not created since then but point taken , hype this product to take the heat off it. I still find it bizarre that people will spend $ 3800 without HEARING them first .

Evperienced the same thing as you described with NoFi's Rose 150. Hype did not align with reality.

Not even gonna try them. The elac he made sounded horrible thin. So does the pioneer he made.

THANK YOU…Your 💯 on this. I could care less if this was the greatest speaker ever created I wouldn’t give MoFi a cent of my money.

Hmm. IDK? My read follows another widely hyped speaker, KLH5's. Hardly full range base boomer too big to be called bookshelf speakers but hit well above their price point. Sold out quickly and got a $500 25% price increase. Since the SP10 is often compared to the $5k Mission 770 let's not get into China vs UK I truly think the KLH strategy is what mofi is planning. Under price, over deliver and raise the price to $4500. For the record, everything I've seen is $3699, $3999 with stands. Not sure where the $3800 keeps coming from? Also, I would not buy them without their own stand which nobody has demo'd yet.

Was going to dip my hands in my wallet for these speakers.

Seems like Jay's hitting on all cylinders nowadays. So true with what you say. If Andrew Jones name wasn't on it it that speaker would just be sitting there in the back room somewhere. Andrew Jones reminds me of Elon musk. One minute Elon Musk is a hero and he's everywhere and you see what's going on now. 🤔🙄 I will predict that this fate also happens to Andrew Jones in the near future. Sometimes mega publicity isn't such a good thing after all. My pet peeve is watching reviewers in their mid-70s reviewing speakers thinking they can hear greater than 10,000 Hertz. People are so naive. Notice how these people never ever, ever, ever take a hearing test and show people the results. I haven't seen this once!🤯🤯🤯🤔🤔🤔🤫🤫🙄🙄 I mentioned this last comment being triggered by one of Jay's recent videos.

Thank you, Jay, and Happy Thanksgiving. Imo, the magazine reviews have become not much more than hype. Same for many YT reviews. And I suspect many of these speakers on the used market will be compensation for reviewers. This practice of letting reviewers keep product at no charge, then sell said product, calls into question the validity of reviews.

The 8 sounds better to me, not as harsh in the top end.