Watch the factory promotional films from the Willys era. The announcer says it both ways. Because the company itself was not so uptight about its pronunciation as the Jeep fanboys are today.
@@jledonne8n8f you ever think the guy made a mistake while narrating? Factory film or not? The fact 99% of people get it wrong makes it possible so did he.
@@ChaChiVooDoo I think if the factory felt this nuance of pronunciation was so important, they certainly would have the narrator correct it. After all, they were paying to have this film made.
Indeed. I've gotten limited amounts of enjoyment from looking at things I'll most likely never be able to have. Other than an appreciation for what that may be.
Brought back a 40 year old memory of putting a fiberglass body on a CJ7, and dropping a 304 in it. It was my (then) girlfriend’s dad’s. He and I had fun renewing it. Ironically, shortly after completing it, she and I broke up. Occasionally I’d see him and he’d ask if his daughter and I were going to get back together, apparently her new boyfriend knew nothing of cars. 😂. Thanks as always ~ Chuck
Being a Jeep guy let me throw my 2 cents in here. Front disc brakes were optional in 1977 and became standard in 1978. Looking at the transmission shifter (It is straight and not S curved) that is a 3 speed T-150 tranny. The T-18A and T-18B 4 speed transmissions have the S curved shifter. Also that would be the last year for the Dana 20 transfer case. The Dana 300 short shaft came out in 1980 and then in 1981 the 300 came with a longer output shaft. The corporate 20 rear axle was installed up until the mid to late 1986 and then AMC ran out of them and ordered Dana 44 axles from Dana. The Dana 30 was the standard front axle. Only change for that was the locking hubs went from 5 to 6 bolt in 1982. Also in 1983 AMC introduced their pulse air system which was a crude attempt at carb controlled injection. It was plagued with problems. Also 1983 was the last production year for the CJ-5. There is a whole bunch more I can mention, but this covers most of it.
Yep. Love the channel, but several errors in this video. Like the original 81" wheelbase on CJ5's, tailgates as an option, etc. Jeep geek stuff for sure...but I'm surprised Steve didn't nail them.
T-176 4 speed has a straight shifter, my '79 has a '80 T-176/D300 swapped in. You're probably right about it being a 3 speed, but if he checked the shift pattern off camera and it really is a 4 speed it could be a swapped drivetrain.
As I recall the CJ-5s were getting a bad rap about how the short wheel base made them tip and roll over easier and the CJ-7's longer wheel base seemed to bring the Jeep sales back up since the CJ-7 passed he roll over tests.
Yep sitting in the back of a CJ5 in 1978 going into a park there was a sharp bend in the driveway and jeep went up on two wheels really easy we were not going fast... garbage ride on the roadways even the TJ sucks except for the 4 door ones they are ok now.
I remember shopping for a Scrambler in about 1984. Salesman didn’t even know what it was. Interesting fact, the advertised prices for CJs and Scramblers did not include a top or doors.
I have a 1973 CJ5. The Jeep CJs have a 5 on 5 1/2 x 15" wheels with a large center hole that are hard to find. Jeep also had the CJ6 with a longer back section.
My dad's still got a 73 cj5, it goes on offroading adventures multiple times a year, he has a cj8 scrambler top, it was off a jeep a guy he knew was cutting up to make a crawler, he said it almost made him sick for how rare they're getting. The old cj jeeps are just so cool, the last real hold out of old school utility vehicles that weren't really built with comfort in mind
The CJ5, and possibly the CJ7, can be had with either a tailgate or a solid body with no tailgate provision. I have a CJ5 with a tailgate and had another 5 that had no tailgate provision. There was a book, back in the day when people still read books, called the Jeep owners bible that covered this and how it was an uncommon option.
There would also be a VIN plate riveted on the firewall. I own a 1976 CJ5 that I totally restored and modified. I was pleasantly surprised as to how well it did ride, being a short wheelbase/narrow track, straight axle, leaf sprung vehicle: It cruises quite comfortably up to around 60mph. Then things can get a bit sketchy. Mostly due to it's 'brick' aerodynamics and light weight. Gusty crosswinds and/or truck/RV traffic can make it 'dance' a bit in it's lane.1983 was the last year for the CJ5, still retaining narrow track axles (wide track axles were standard in CJ7/8s starting the 1982 model year). 1979, IMO, was the last great year for CJs. CJ production ended with the 1986 model year. It was followed by the YJ (rectangular headlights), TJ ( return to round headlight!)/LJ, (longer 'Unlimited' version of a TJ), JK, and JL.
About 22 years ago I had a Jeep Golden Eagle wagon . This thing would go ANYWHERE ! Wish I had kept it . I love wagons so that's why today I have a 96 Suburban , 454 , 4 x 4 . I take it out on the beaches and in the back I have built it into a camper . I also have a 20 ft. cargo trailer I've converted into a camper . I pull it around Florida for some fun camping and partying . I'm close to 70 years young ! CRAWL ON !
@Hot Rod 1949 best place to by a bunch off old magazines brochures. Is Estate Sales when some one passes if he was a car guy. They usually have a bunch and they will sell you a full box usually cheap. Family just wants to get rid off everything.
I have a 77 CJ7, it was pretty much a barn find. I rebuilt every system, rebuilt the motor and the transmission. I custom built some bumpers added FI and an OD and now it is my daily driver and a vintage family cruiser. Man I love this Jeep.
Its so refreshing to hear someone pronounce the name Willys correctly. I cant believe after all these years 99% of people get it wrong. I used to have a 1965 CJ6 with a Perkins diesel in it. Still kicking myself for selling it.
Thanks Steve! I had a CJ-5 and it was almost impossible to get that thing stuck. I always wished it had a little more directional stability, though, and the CJ-7’s added length probably would’ve done it.
Many of us reversed the front springs to 'shackle-aft' & installed steering box braces. That seemed to smarten them up a great deal. I also moved my front axle ahead 2" in the process.
Neat Jeep info. You should do a crossover followup covering models that survived the transition from AMC to Chrysler. My spouse has a base model 96 Cherokee that's still plugging along even after 260k on the clock. We won't talk about build quality tho. 😏
Very good information as usual, thank you. I had an 87 CJ7 it was great, snowplowed for 10 yrs... it wasn't even breathing hard. You didn't mention the front hubs that I had to twist in the cold to go to 4 WD.
A C7 with a 478 GMC V6, would make a sleeper of sorts. It sounds like a 6 but it's makes peak torque of over 440lbs before 1500 rpm. It would be unique, a 60 degree big block V6 in a Jeep with a diesel like power band.
Thanks for this Junk Yard Crawl Steve...I'm almost done w/ a 2yr rebuild / engine swap on my CJ7 & can't wait to get it out on the road..I have a friend who has 2 CJ8 Scramblers he inherited from his father who bought them new...Love them compared to the Jeep Gladiators of today..Keep up the great work & videos..We love em!
Any respecting hot rodder who had a Jeep was going to say, “That WAS the thermacter air pump.” I know those old straight sixes didn’t make much power, but they could be modded. Furthermore, they’d generally live longer than the rest of any given vehicle they resided in.
Man those are very desirable! My cousin had one of those new in 1980! He’s was a green golden eagle renegade! I believe it had the 304ci v8 AMC engine. He’s had the 4 barrel carb and headers! Man that thing was a beast for it’s time! I never forget it! Big tires with the gold steel wheels! It also had the optional 5 speed transmission. Just a beautiful beast of a cj7. Very collectible and valuable today if you can find one in great shape!
Had a 79 CJ5 304 3 speed. Sold it in 81 moving from Rocklin California to Los Angeles, who needs a Jeep in the city? Not the first dumb thing I did and certainly wasn't the last.
Factory spring over axle set-up? With sway bars! Rear spring perches outside the frame rails. I had no idea. So many improvements in 76 as the CJ headed toward the 21st century. Pure luxury compared to traditional CJ stuff!!
My 80 CJ-7 has a metal VIN plate riveted to the engine side of the firewall on the driver's side. Also, the AMC 20 rear end has a built in weakness, two piece rear axles with splines. Either weld them before they spin the splines or replace with aftermarket one piece axles. Also, the SR4 4 speed that came stock in 1980 was a light duty transmission originally designed for a small passenger car and not up to the task of off roading. Fortunately, the T5 5 speed out of a V-8 Mustang is an easy, almost direct swap. Also, if you live in a hot climate like I do the Ford Contour dual fan setup is an easy swap for the stock engine fan and with a Flex-a-lite PWM fan controller and an aluminum radiator it will never overheat, even with an aftermarket A/C like I've got running on a 115 degree day.
Well done, Mags! The Scrambler reference takes me back. One of the hottest girls in my high school drove a white Scrambler. A certain kind of magic about about a hot girl in a Scrambler... lol
When I was 18 back in 1977 my father bought a new Tawny orange CJ5 for $5400 in southern Vermont at RS Roberts GM/Jeep It rusted it out within five years.
Hi Steve one of my favorite vehicles the jeep CJ7. The way I was told to tell the difference from the CJ5 and the CJ7 was as you said the opening. The CJ5 had the "S" shape and the CJ7 was a "U" shape opening. But you didn't mention the 4cyl models. I believe there were 3 different makes GM AMC and Chrysler 2.5L and I believe there was a GM V6 offered. Not sure on what yr or availability between models. I do know you don't want take a 4cyl model and expect the drive train to hold up against the 4.0, 4.2, 6cyl or 304 V8. There will be some part breakage and horrible grinding going on. That is if you have to pound on during a moderate off road adventure. Also who can forget "Dixie" from the Dukes of Hazard a beautiful white Golden Eagle CJ7 and the almost as pretty Catherine Back Namaste 🙏🏼
The v6 your thinking of was the Buick 231. Those 4cyl weren't made to be doing 80 mph. Poor little engine would be screaming. They were more town use or out on a farm.
@@TomTom-qm4mq hi Tom Tom yes I was thinking it was the Buick V6 but I wasn't sure and you know how some are when your wrong about something they can't wait to pound on you or call you some awful name. I just thought that Steve should have mentioned it since he spent some time talking about the seat history. Wish Steve's videos were a little longer but I get it some today have an attention span of a nat. LoL Namaste bro 🤙🏼
@@chrisscearce I wasn't pounding on you for your comment. Just telling you what I know. And I was wrong as someone pointed out to me. It was a 225 v6 Buick. But yes I know how people can be if your wrong. Ready to jump on you. I don't claim to know everything. I just love cars and pass along the information I know.
@@TomTom-qm4mq hi Tom Tom I never thought that at all. I was just saying some will definitely call you out on your errors and be very rude about it. I was glad you commented and also James. Not everyone can know everything as we all know as we watch the encyclopedia Steve Magnante. I'm not prejudice, all auto manufacturers make junk. So I'm not a hardcore Ford guy or Mopar Chevy guy etc. I have my favorite models across the spectrum. I've worked on enough to know engineers need to work in the repair field before designing anything. Namaste bro 🤙🏼
4:08 🥝✔️ After 1971 to 1985, the total package with Thermactor was always combined with 7.9 to 8.4 compression ratios. The 17 pound per hour AIR pump itself only consumed 0.3 HP. There might be 5 HP loss verses the total unleaded low compression package compared to a leaded fuel high compression engine, but it's not the AIR pump that takes the HP down, it's the compression ratio and air fuel ratio constraints. In the two 1967 Hot Rod articles on a 200 Mustang six, Ak Miller showed the Air Induction Reaction pump only required a tiny air fuel ratio change. The pump itself, employed since 1966 on CA cars, is way less than a generator or alternator in HP drag.
My Dad still has his 79 CJ7 he bought new, most of my first lessons about working on cars came from that so it’s cool to see you talk about it. Minor issue as you glossed over the transmission being a 4 speed, it was more likely a 3 speed that came in most of them.
Now why didnt Fred ever get this deep into The Jeep? Just got my Daughter a WG (J) Grand Cherokee (MY02) and its an awesome thing, lovely 4.7 and all the fruit and I am actually looking into the CJ as a toy for myself. Love it
That year CJ7 (or CJ5) came with a 258CI inline six, or the base 4cyl or even the less common 304V8. The 258 was the predecessor of the 4.0 inline in the '02 XJ Cherokee
New drinking game, when you see one of Steve's sharpie notes scrawled on the surface on the car, take a shot of Tequila. Alcohol poisoning before the end of an episode almost guaranteed... Love your videos Steve.
You could get a factory hardtop for a CJ3A or a CJ5 Jeep because I have a 1981 CJ5 Jeep with an aluminum half cab top and hard doors that have windows that roll down instead of slide to open. I also have an aluminum hardtop and hard doors that will fit a CJ3A Jeep.
My dad still has his 79 cj7 bought new in Boulder colorado pollard motors. Very few options Black, rear seat, full soft top, rear tire carrier and straight 6. Spent 90% or 60000 miles snow plowing so she’s not pretty anymore. I still have the 7k window sticker and it’s the vehicle I learned to drive at 12 yrs old…
Interesting about the grille design - was that patent US-only or Worldwide? I should have thought the latter, yet Rover seemed to have got away with a very similar stamping across early Range Rover front ends.....
Hi Steve, thank you in regards on how a air pump works. The air pump NEVER pumps smog and/or exhaust gases. It injects AIR into the exhaust manifold(s) and/or the catalytic converter(s) to help oxidize "burn" unburned fuel left behind by the engine that is NOT burned in the combustion chamber(s). GM, "air pump" Ford "thermactor pump" Chrysler "aspirator pump" all the same. I also want to add that the automatic transmission option in the Jeep CJ-7 was a GM Turbo 400, with an AMC bellhousing, a VERY heavy duty transmission, with UNLIMITED performance inproovments. Please reply. Dave...
I have a 99 wrangler in my garage and have had it since 2000 drove it for about 9 years then it sat as an extra car in the family rotting in the driveway until I decided to pull her in the garage and do a decant restore on her now I just take her out on sunny days then back in the garage , 4 Ltr strait 6 runs like a top , thanks .
I don't know why, but I always liked how they left the inprint on the side of the CJ5 where the old fuel filler originally was. Save money on tooling if by just leaving it there LOL
if i remember correctly the cj7 was 2 inches wider than a cj5 along with the longer wheel base. cj5's were tippy but they'd go anywhere if they had enough traction. that couple of inches there were places we put the cj5 that my friends cj7 wouldnt fit
Body width was the same. In fact, everything from the windshield/cowl forward was interchangeable on 76-86 CJ's. The added 'width' came with the 1982 model CJ's which had 'wide track' axles. (except the CJ5 which remained narrow track until production ended with the 1983 model year).
Only Jeeps I've spent any time driving were my dad's 47 CJ2 and recently my brother's 2,000 or so, don't know the model, but it looks like a modern rendition of a CJ5 got the old school 6 cylinder and a 5 speed. My take is they're great for bopping around off road and no so great for the highway. If I had the choice of the two I'd take the 47, it was simple and that flat head four banger was all you needed in the woods. A trailer is the best place for either on long highway trips. 😂 Even with all the suspension improvements the modern one has it still sucks at highway speeds, off road the highway friendly gears sorta suck. It's one vehicle that should've been left as originally intended in my not so humble opinion. It's the Telecaster of vehicles.
My dad had a 1967 Jeep CJ-6 with a 101 inch wheel base back when Jeep was still made by Kaiser. 1967 was when the Buick V6 was available in the Jeep CJs. I never see and CJ-6 Jeeps anywhere3. Are they really that rare?
