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Jeep Gladiator vs Land Rover Defender vs Classic Defender vs Rock Garden

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Check out our brand new PODCAST - TFL Talkin' Trucks! ( tfltruck.com/p... )
(www.TFLoffroad.com) In this quick behind the scenes video we take a new Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, A new Land Rover Defender 110 and a classic Defender 90 up some big rocks in Colorado. This is a great opportunity to see how modern tech compares with old when the going gets tough on a classic Colorado off-road trail.
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@TFLoffroad 4 года назад

Hey guys, we erroneously mentioned at 4:46 that the Defender has a Johnson lift rod kit, when in fact it has a Lucky8 Off-Road Equipment kit (shown here: lucky8llc.com/collections/defender-2/products/2in-proud-rhino-lift-rods). We apologize for the error!

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@jeffdillon7202 4 года назад

Much better than the "race" video, guys. And transparency!

@jarrodmcdaniel 4 года назад

I’ve been to many off-road parks and trails. It’s really hard to capture on camera how difficult a trail is compared to how it looks in real life. Great job! We have filmed a very difficult section a few times and when rewatching the footage remarked on how the camera doesn’t do it justice.

@carbonshocks 4 года назад

Tell me about it I can't tell you how many times that we've had videos or pictures from races and it was very extreme and you get back to look at the media and it looks like you're driving in a field half the time lol

@Arjun-eb1yc 4 года назад

Lol ya everything looks easier and every obstacle looks small on screen.

@tyleranderson5823 4 года назад

Great example of how a short wheelbase is often times better offroad. That gladiator is just too long.

@WW-wf8tu 4 года назад

And poor spotting does not help either. ;)

@MississipVol 4 года назад

@@WW-wf8tu Yeah the Gladiator took a much harder line initially.

@eastonhirsh4088 4 года назад

Also airing down more, the Gladiator looked like it was at road tire pressure

@coreygarcia622 4 года назад

@@eastonhirsh4088 100% this. Those tires need about half the PSI they had them at.

@hannahranga 4 года назад

It's basically the size of a defender 130

@StgVirus1 4 года назад

Who ever traded in their old Defender for the new one, probably the worst trade deal possibly ever.

@bertofly9050 4 года назад

That new defender is rlly impressive u could see the tc working

@anthonymrskipt9252 4 года назад

That stock Defender with open diffs and just a set of better tires was actually quite impressive. If the electronics and air suspension hold up, one of those with the rear locker and maybe a bit more rubber would be just about as capable as most people would ever need. Plus, and I say this having driven both, it’s way, way more comfortable than the old Defenders and rides better than my Land Cruiser. It seems like a lot of people want to hate it, but I’m really quite impressed with what they’ve accomplished.

@dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

As an LR4 (which is basically what the new Defender is replacing) owner with Nitto Ridge Grapplers with the rear locker and low range (HD package) I’ve been telling people the same thing from personal experience. You don’t need 37s and solid front and rear axles and front lockers for 97% of what people who actually go offroading with these do. And why? Cause it’s also our daily, so there’s only so hardcore anyone is gonna do with their daily.

@anthonymrskipt9252 4 года назад

Honestly, my issue is that I loved my series 1 Discovery with a manual transmission (offroad, anyway), but had so many problems with 2 different Discovery 2s that I’ve been a bit nervous about getting another Land Rover. My college roommate had an LR3 and still has an LR4 and has had great experiences with both. It is very tempting . . .

@dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

Anthony Mr Ski PT 110,000 miles on my 2016 LR4 that I offroad with and zero problems. All my buddies that I go out with that have Wranglers have had issues.

@anthonymrskipt9252 4 года назад

We have a Wrangler, which has had issues as well. I’m thinking of this more as an alternative to the Land Cruiser - which I specifically got because the rep is that it will run forever. I’m waiting for the review of the smaller engine with the 18” wheels. I’ve heard it feels underpowered - but the old school look is pretty tempting.

@dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

Anthony Mr Ski PT yeah I know. i love the look too. Im hoping we can put 18s on the V6. My LR4 takes 18 in Compomotive wheels with no spacers and has almost the exact same towing capacity as the new Defender. So hopefully these will fit over the brakes on the Defender as well. I just need em in white for the Defender!!

@kcsykes5037 4 года назад

This is the kind of content we need!! Thanks TFL

@andresrojas5222 4 года назад

I really don't know why the first editions don't have a rear locker. They should!!! Never the less it is impressive that an open diff was so capable but terrain response on land rovers is a thing of beauty

@dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

Because only poseurs feel the need to buy a first edition anything. It would be a waste.

@khakimzhanmiras 4 года назад

They had that technology nailed in the early 00s.

@NigelNaughton 4 года назад

A couple of days ago I made it up Yankee Boy Basin with a triple locked 80 series Land Cruiser and on the way down there was a guy with a brand new defender trying to go up it and he was doing a great job but well let's just say his wife was not very happy

@shadow105720 4 года назад

Ride too harsh from needing to keep moving or from damage to the new truck? Or both?

@NigelNaughton 4 года назад

@@shadow105720 my Land Cruiser made it up no problem. It's stock except for 33in tires. Just have to go slow. That new Defender made it up pretty well too with the ride height set all the way up and with all the electronic aides it has. Just very slow going.

@chaquisa1 3 года назад

@@NigelNaughton so you are saying you have 33 s and its stock ? What about upgrade cos a toy with 33s is bound to smash everything from wheel bearings to twisted driveshafts and failed suspension lol !!

@NigelNaughton 3 года назад

@@chaquisa1 Yeah totally stock with 285/75/16 Falken Wildpeaks. and fully loaded for camping, etc. You just have to pick your line and it's all good...remember this is an 80 series so not sure about other Toyotas but sure they can do it. I have front and rear lockers but I don't think I used them for any part of this. Just 4-low.

@chaquisa1 3 года назад

@@NigelNaughton Yeah good one mate must be a meanie hehehe

@S2kBPRIME 4 года назад

Aww, I wanted to see the 4runner! Great vid!

@thehayman7352 4 года назад

Same!

@andyham6094 4 года назад

Sameeeeeee. Wtfff

@89jmcfar 4 года назад

Same

@JRWJ2K 4 года назад

same here! I was ... and the 4Runner???

@bean4332 4 года назад

defenders made it looks easy

@R.Nelson 4 года назад

Nice!!!! Serious Off Road Action...thanks alot Roman and Tommy 😃🌟🌟🌟

@joeseaton1401 4 года назад

This just proves all the new defender haters wrong. This one doesn’t even have the locker and it keeps up with the old schoolers just fine.

@MichaelMiller-rg6or 4 года назад

I did NOT expect the new Defender to be better over those rocks than the Gladiator, especially since the Gladiator had lockers. I wonder how much driver skill played into that?

@smudgeone 4 года назад

Not as much as wheelbase. I've pointed my 2 dr JK Rubicon at the hardest line and let it crawl in 1st gear when people with long wheelbases have issues getting hung up, losing traction and getting pinched at bad angles.

@MississipVol 4 года назад

Go back and watch that again. It took a WAY easier line than the Gladiator initially tried to take.

@TroyPosey 4 года назад

MississipVol - Yep! WAY easier.

@Stuka87 4 года назад

Shorter wheelbase has a better break over, and the spotter wasn't doing a great job. Spotter needs to take wheelbase into account. A Wrangler would not have had those issues because even the Unlimited is 20" shorter.

@Nick-gg6tg 4 года назад

Wheelbase is key

@wilsonyg 4 года назад

Can't wait to see the new Bronco doing this.

@Propelled 3 года назад

With the chip shortages and plant slowdowns and closures, it’s going to be the slowest rollout in automotive history.

@stig120212 4 года назад

from a distance and all the way up the new defender looks amazing. but kudos to that gladiator, impressive to see the articulation.

@blackcloudz11 4 года назад

I'm impressed with the Defender

@dallasmellsop5488 3 года назад

I'm impressed by how crap it was

@MP_-ek8ij 4 года назад

Wow that new defender did better than the gladiator and better than I expected it would, and the older one made it look the easiest

@dudarjita 4 года назад

There’s nothing like the old Diesel Defender with manual transmission.

@stuartbrown881 4 года назад

Except it was the even better V8 Petrol version... With some mods

@joeseaton1401 4 года назад

Td5 was their best engine (after you sort out the harness issue)

@lucasspiros 4 года назад

💪👍😁

@dudarjita 4 года назад

joe seaton I agree

@doscwolny2221 4 года назад

@@dudarjita I dont. 300tdi is less powerful but more reliable

@LordTechPro 4 года назад

This just proves that with the rear diff locker optioned The Defender is actually very capable off-road. The way the electronics sorted everything out was amazing

@TroyPosey 4 года назад

The Gladiator needs the “new driver” mod...

@JM-nz8gw 4 года назад

No it just needs a shorter wheelbase

@danbrown4205 4 года назад

Absolutely! A driver who knows how to bump and use that skinny pedal.

@TroyPosey 4 года назад

@@danbrown4205 I just put out a new video on my channel with my Gladiator Rubicon and I'm going over 2-3 washouts with 37's like it's nothing...But I've also been offroading and building trucks for over 20 years... You will notice how I use the throttle with the suspension bounces (you can hear the engine in the background) to keep momentum. 😉 Also, I'm not using lockers or 4-Low... Just 4-Hi and open diffs... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9dGovIgzULY.html

@nycmaverick 4 года назад

We call it chicken foot in the Northeast

@davep2945 4 года назад

@@TroyPosey No doubt the driver makes a difference but I think these guys are just too worried about resale. They seem to buy a rig, use it for a year or two to generate videos with whatever is popular at the time and then sell it. I guess they will do the same with the Gladiator so they're probably not ever really going to beat on it too hard. But a good driver also knows the limits of both his vehicle and what he's willing to risk and chooses his line appropriately. Perhaps for the video they were willing to play a little but in real life he should of just taken an easier line and moved on.

@Bimmerphile1 4 года назад

Those steel wheels look fantastic on the Gladiator!

@damiangutierrez9103 4 года назад

Respect for taking the new defender off roading. The Gladiator has a long wheel base. The old yellow one looked like a cool RC toy. The 4runner could be a knock out of the park.

@Offshore1977 4 года назад

This is what makes TFL king of off road reviews. I’d love to see that 4Runner here as well.

@chadg6 4 года назад

Nice test for all 3 vehicles and good explanation of the difference in setups of each (wheels, tire pressure, differential locks, etc). Thank you! Worth noting that Steve generally configures the new Defender to allow for more wheel spin than the normal rock crawl mode (per his other vids). Look forward to hopefully seeing Steve back with you guys when he gets his 2020 Defender with rear locker and 18's!

@MJ-km3qz 4 года назад

Thank you for showing the activities truthfully and honestly. I didn’t expect these results. But it is what it is. Thank you!

@syam1234567 4 года назад

i saw someone asking for this comparison on one of the videos. waiting for " jeep vs defender vs bronco"

@BartStar009 4 года назад

you can't drive any Jeep on the highway past 50 MPH without it feeling like the wheels are falling off, then when you take it to the Jeep Dealer they say that's normal, ALL Jeeps do that!

@jimmytong2033 4 года назад

@@BartStar009 I beg to differ. I have a 2 door Rubicon JL with everything stock. I drive at 80mph on the freeway and it still feels solid.

@LordTechPro 4 года назад

@@BartStar009 Yes exactly

@jenskriek4280 4 года назад

@@BartStar009 I'm sure Mr. Kumar means an OFF-ROAD COMPARISON! Other channels can do an all-round comparison but on TFL we want to see the gritty rough stuff.

@seancooke4127 4 года назад

AMAZING CAPABILITIES. AMAZING SKILLS AT THE WHEEL. AWESOME

@deucedaprodeuca 4 года назад

So a defender with no lockers is better than a lifted Rubicon Gladiator. 👀

@LordTechPro 4 года назад

yes, and also one that is riding on large (ish) alloys

@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkness 4 года назад

They should have taken the Toureg instead

@russellrackley3623 4 года назад

No.

@steved1880 4 года назад

I think the Gladiator Rubicon is great. Yet I have read and see that it’s greatest weakness is it’s breakover angle. Looks apparent here. Yet, still an awesome truck...

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

And departure angle - she's got a lot of junk in the trunk!

@yepitsme431 4 года назад

i agree.. for this kind of trails a 2 door its "better suited" or maybe the 4 door.. for anything else the gladiator (y)

@robmullins1427 4 года назад

Old Defender 90 stole the show. I regret selling my 95 Red 90 back twenty years ago. Old school tech is still relevant.

@dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

Get a damn Defender with locking center and rear diffs, low range, rock rails, a winch, brush bar and skid plates. And hopefully 18s with even better tires instead of ATs. That’s the rig I really wanna see. Btw, I know it’s JLR and not you guys.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

We do too! Lifts, sliders, and 18” conversions are in the works. We expect to be on 35’s by next summer in the New Defender👍🏽

@dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

Steve Burt sweeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt!!!!!!

@SUSHRUTSSA 4 года назад

We need a Wrangler vs Defender Not a Gladiator, c'mon it's not fair

@bbgnate 4 года назад

Thanks for posting guys. More of the new Defender!

@mursaro 4 года назад

You guys really need to get a properly equipped modern Land Rover on the channel ... with the center and rear lockers 😁

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Stay tuned👍🏽

@jerrodcorey25 4 года назад

Awesome video and a great demonstration of how a short wheelbase can really help you but with some good lines and driving the longer wheelbase made it!!! All 3 of them awesome rigs

@JustinLaNoue 4 года назад

That Defender look like it has rocks for springs when they're aired up like that lol

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 4 года назад

Right! Zero suspension travel and bounces like it doesn't have any suspension when its in extended mode.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

She’s a bit stiff. Some aftermarkets are working on better suspension setups and more lift. We anticipate having 35’s on these by next summer👍🏽

@JustinLaNoue 4 года назад

Steve Burt Nice! What about sway bar disconnects? As a Bronco fan I can’t wait to see these going on trails together.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Justin LaNoue agreed. I haven’t heard of any in development. Maybe somebody can elaborate?

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 4 года назад

@@cotrails8356 nice! Waiting for a good aftermarket lift for the cool spring version of the defender.

@wozza77able 4 года назад

That video just proved there’s no substitute for a diff locker!

@rafaeldomenikos5978 4 года назад

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, no other RU-vid channel does off road reviews as well as you guys!!!

@cb3981 4 года назад

Love this! Even if I never own a gladiator I’ll always be amazed by it. The design is growing on me.

@hege750 4 года назад

I'd like to see a comparison video, where there are two new Defenders doing the same trail at the same time with identical specs, except the other one is equipped with the rear locker.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Coming soon...

@ati573 4 года назад

I think the gladiator was a lot smoother. All that hopping by the defender is a sure way to break parts. And Tommy took the hardest line.

@Propelled 3 года назад

Exactly

@perpelle 4 года назад

The new defender looks like pogo stick with a metal rod instead of a spring. Zero articulation when lifted.

@Agent.K. 4 года назад

Did it better than JT though 🤷‍♂️

@perpelle 4 года назад

@@Agent.K. Yes, with a different line.

@Johndeerefan198 4 года назад

Yeah it really needs a subframe drop lift.

@amm2472 4 года назад

even though it did what asked to do perfectly

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

That's a result of the rod lift. Watch any late-model Rover with bags and a rod lift and you'll see similar results. Yes it gives more ground clearance but at the expense of loosing most of your down-travel and a very stiff ride.

@300bhpton 4 года назад

The new Pretender is very bouncy. I think having the air suspension fully pumped up gives it no flex at all, even for independent suspension. And it just wants to bob up and down.

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

That is so you dont break your back on the trail >!!!

@andressastoque6183 4 года назад

The new defender slapped the gladiators ass... I was not expecting that

@txvet7738 4 года назад

That older Defender sounded sweet! I was really looking forward to seeing the 4Runner attempt the trail as well, sad panda.

@DonMitsu 4 года назад

I'm impatiently awaiting my new Defender and thoroughly enjoyed this video (I equipped mine with the rear locker also :-) )

@paulus-hamundjebohr 4 года назад

new defender is lit man...

@Daniel-pv8jl 4 года назад

Who is this guy giving tommy the line? He sucks, and don’t say it’s the dealership guy

@jackhamrick4483 4 года назад

His dad is the one holding the camera. I think the question was referring to the voice that keeps saying driver and passenger versus bump it and rock sliders

@jackhamrick4483 4 года назад

@@CarportCarl oh ya, no I agree. I didn't mean to ignore your statement.

@jackhamrick4483 4 года назад

@@CarportCarl strict and asshole are very much different my friend. Not even a comparison when done correctly. I love it when people are blatantly rude, then cover it up as constructive criticism.

@jackhamrick4483 4 года назад

@@CarportCarl to further the discussion on Roman, I don't believe he intentionally tries to belittle Tommy in any way. They do seem to have a pretty tight relationship. Some people are just that way though.

@UrBloodOnMyFace 4 года назад

For a moment I thought the guy in the yellow defender was Doug demuro

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Nope. I know Doug too...

@rossbowman202 4 года назад

Gladiator had its lunch stolen and ate by the Defender old and new. Can't wait for the Bronco to completely destroy the Wrangler.

@SanctumOfDreams 4 года назад

IFS

@ShredGarage 4 года назад

Those two land rovers showed that long Jeep up. Wrangler would have gone this easily like the defenders as well.

@g496r500t 4 года назад

Bronco’s going to smash these new Defender

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

Says who...You ?

@joeymccullough2716 4 года назад

I want that Defender 90!! Unbeatable machine

@thehayman7352 4 года назад

Taking my runner up that trail Sunday super excited!

@edwardpeters4700 4 года назад

Classic death by wheelbase. Great clip guys

@landroverzone9824 4 года назад

Land Rover!!!! The best 4x4 by Far!!

@ACYT298 4 года назад

So basically forget the first two and get a classic defender or something similar like a 4 runner

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

Notice they didn't film the 4 runner because it probably did'nt make it LOL !!

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Sorry, 4Runner is my wife’s daily driver. It has a 2” lift on 33’s with factory TRD boards that would not have cleared the second large boulder. We own 2 CJ’s, a built TJ locked on 35’s, a built JKU locked on 37’s, and this 4Runner and we wheel them all. The 4Runner and the Defender wheel almost carbon copy of each other with same lift and tires...

@jeeppto5576 4 года назад

Maybe Tomy is right after all. Land Rover keeps proving that is a worthy hardcore off road vehicle

@smudgeone 4 года назад

So is the G-wagon, just nobody wants to risk $100k+ cars off-road. Although the Gladiator is doing its best to catch up to that price point.

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

The Defender2 is a capable moderate off-roader. It can handle something like this trail, yes. But it's never going to be a hardcore wheeler on independent suspension. It simply lacks the needed articulation and can't be lifted enough for proper tires. I suppose you could design a subframe drop, longer control arms and half shafts, etc, but that's a small fortune compared to lifting a solid axle truck. I'm a Rover guy, but that's just the way it is.

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

@@donhappel9566 There are Disco 3 out there with 35's .They have the same suspension .

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

@@chaquisa1 I know - I have one. OK, mine is only on 34s at the moment but it has completed the full Rubicon. And guess what - it's still not a 'hard core' wheeler and never will be. Aside from the suspension issues, you have the massive weight and the fact that nobody makes aftermarket gearing for it which really cripples it when crawling. Power is nearly irrelevant for anything other than sand or mud, but gearing is critical. The stock Rover doesn't have a great craw ratio to begin with and going to bigger heavier tires only makes it worse. They're good for what they are, but that's really for moderate wheeling and overlanding.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Don Happel this is true. Nor will the 4Runner or the even the New Bronco. But it is VERY capable right off the shelf for 98% of the market and has almost 400hp and a excellent manors on road to boot👍🏽

@HoosierDaddy_ 4 года назад

Good video! It's great to show world famous off road areas and real world use for these 4wds. Living where you do is definitely an advantage. Still like the races, but behind the scenes on these trails is definitely cool!

@1nando632 4 года назад

Real Defender= pull a lever and hear a bang which means you've engaged something and then you crawl over it. New defender= a astronaut piloting a computer over a rock using a calculator

@Frito_Pendejo 4 года назад

Love the sound of that V8

@lorenzoronpedrique2952 4 года назад

More info on how the 4runner went through

@WW-wf8tu 4 года назад

They claimed they were not going to do it. Not because it could not, but because that would prove it could. ;)

@Kyle-nr6nm 4 года назад

@@WW-wf8tu Let's be honest that 4Runner doesn't have the clearance.

@Ww8.3 4 года назад

Tough day for the Jeep bias on this channel 😀 no way in hell will they show that 4Runner going up it. Probably deleted that footage

@WW-wf8tu 4 года назад

@@Ww8.3 Honestly, they said they were not going to do it. It is 1 of the wife's rigs they did not want to beat on.

@WW-wf8tu 4 года назад

@@Kyle-nr6nm Honestly, neither did that modified gladiator they built up with bigger tires. But the 2nd line they took, a STOCK TRD 4Runner would have taken just as easily. In stock form that Gladiator could have taken the 2nd line as well. lol Point is, you can spend thousands of dollars for upgrades and still be forced to go where stock rigs can go. ;)

@matthiasroseboom894 4 года назад

That loose dirt seems really hard to navigate. Great behind the scenes action!👍

@implodingbaby 4 года назад

Land rover never ceases to impress me

@locomorty 6 месяцев назад

Great video to demonstrate why and how the Defender does better offroad even without the locker. I was also surprised how the Defender made it look easy compared to the Jeep. Thank you for the video.

@pernell4351 4 года назад

Just saw the new Ford 2 door bronco in Kremmling Colorado

@McCorck29 4 года назад

The new defender did a pretty good job. But why did they decide not to give the First Edition any lockers?

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Not sure but we have a locked P400 coming this month and we will lift, move to 18’s with better brake choices, and add sliders and run/film some more nastier stuff👍🏽

@JM-nz8gw 4 года назад

This is why long wheelbases suck for off-roading...

@JM-nz8gw 4 года назад

@CHELSKI9 why go through all the trouble though? The 4-door or 2-door Wrangler Rubicon has better dimensions and is an ultimate off-road machine stock. A Gladiator is way more expensive stock and then adding more could easily end up in the $100k range.

@patrickirish8110 4 года назад

This is sweet! Great vid to break up an otherwise frustrating Friday afternoon. Perfect timing!

@HughSmith 4 года назад

Love the video guys!! Much better than the "race". Like you fact you appreciate good engineering and technology and leave the bias at home!

@wannabeangler 4 года назад

What y'all aren't saying is wheel base length. Short base is easier to crawl.

@kotimoto 4 года назад

You all are so skilled!

@nothingtoseaheardammit 4 года назад

The defender goes up the trail like my totally independent suspension truck does. It just kind of finds it own way whereas solid axle trucks seem to be able to pick their way across any terrain. The solid axles definitely make for better videos and are prettier, but my totally IFS/IRS truck hasn't ever let me down.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

New Defender is extremely capable! Looking forward to the arrival of our locked P400 next week and moving down to 18” rims with more sidewall!

@alejandroordonez9196 4 года назад

Proof that a solid axle is no that important anymore

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

Sorry, no. A solid axle is still the unquestioned superior design for any sort of technical driving. IFS is great for the street and good for going fast off-road, but you can't build a production IFS with the needed travel, nor does it lend itself to easy mods.

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

@@donhappel9566 Then why has Jeep offered a IFS for the wrangler. Check that one out !

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

@@chaquisa1 On the Wrangler? Please show me a link - I have never heard of much less seen an IFS factory Wrangler. Especially on the flagship Rubicon versions. I would think such a thing would be easily identified by the sound of the millions of Jeep fans fainting and falling to the ground!

@thomasrossi31 4 года назад

Should’ve tried the 4Runner.

@WW-wf8tu 4 года назад

That would have just proved it could have done it. They did not want that on film. ;) IF the 4Runner was a TRD, it would have walked over the same obstacles like the Defender did. The Gladiator would have been fine with its old school tech. if the spotters would have told Tommy to drive it, instead of walking it. Front and rear lockers with lift kits and good tires do nothing if the spotters high center you. ;)

@thomasrossi31 4 года назад

W W very true! I’m in the market for a TRD Pro.. just wanted to see it give it a try.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Sorry guys! This is my wife’s daily driver and it has factory TRD boards that would not have cleared the second large boulder without damage. As you can imagine, I didn’t want to have that conversation🤣. The New Defender and the 4Runner wheel almost identically on trail with 2” lift and 33’s on both. Besides, we have plenty of other rigs to wheel in the big rocks...

@preetsarai 4 года назад

Per Land Rover, Defender is equipped with an “Active Rear Locking Differential”. It is not switchable, it is automatically switched on and works with other vehicle terrain response system. (Source: Page 16 of the defender order guide - your dealer should have this info)

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

A rear locker is available yes, but has not yet shipped. And like all late model Rovers, you will have no control over it. You have to just hope the computer decides to engage it. Very frustrating when you know you want to lock up BEFORE an obstacle and instead have to wait until the tires are already spinning.

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

Its terrain response system not a locker !

@peopleschamp7258 4 года назад

@@donhappel9566 One thing to remember is that in the new defender, you can determine how much wheel spin you want before the system engages the locker. Steve Burke has stated that he prefers wheelspin before it locks up. You can see his own RU-vid channel where he discusses the spin. You can also adjust throttle response and steering.

@donhappel9566 4 года назад

@@peopleschamp7258 I'd love to think they would let you simply engage the locker manually (well, via software) but given how Terrain Response has worked in the LR3, 4, 5, etc I'm doubtful.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Must order Off Road Package with rear torque vectoring to get it. The early production First Editions didn’t have them. This was one of the first 300 that arrived in the US. We left with 50 miles on it and wheeled Chinaman Gulch day 3 in the US...

@MrMarioevangelou 4 года назад

Classic defender was short wheel based and had better suited tyres. I'm interested to see how the new defender would perform in short wheel base and extreme off road tyres

@zlt4lt4zz71 4 года назад

That 94 defender does it so beautiful 🤙🏽🤙🏽💯💯

@trailrunnah8886 4 года назад

I guess it's impressive that the new one made it through that, I don't think a Jeep Renegade would have done it, and I was hoping to see the 4Runner struggle to do it. However it didn't do it very cleanly, it tore the heck out of the trail and it looks like the driver's front tire spent more time in the air than on the ground. While the Gladiator did get hung up, up until the point it turtled it did it very elegantly without spinning a tire. The older Rover also would have cleaned that easy if it didn't have the manual transmission, it seems like the driver had a hard time hitting it smoothly with a stick. Perhaps it's a little undergeared for that size tire and doesn't have a great crawl ratio.

@vadim9342 4 года назад

What a beautiful state you guys live in.

@Kliffy77 4 года назад

The comparison is unfair! The gladiator is a truck with long wheelbase therefore the breakeover angle is less than the other two suv’s , A 4 door or 2 door Rubicon will obliterate the new ‘Defender’ that said the old real defender is a monster that demands respect.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

I can tell you as a Jeep owner as well (we have 4), the NewDefender is extremely capable right out of the box! Tire choices and lifts are limited right now but we expect to be on 35’s by next summer👍🏽

@carbonshocks 4 года назад

That's killer Chris has had that Land Rover everywhere It seems to be one of the more reliable vehicles in Colorado haha.

@colegarthwaite5633 4 года назад

You need to air down tires on all vehicles to 18psi, would have helped a TON

@tauraigura9361 4 года назад

The Old Defender stole the show

@Hellenkeller777 4 года назад

You guys need to get a ZR2. Would be fun to watch with the Gladiator.

@crazygooseventures 4 года назад

New Defender looked a bit clunky and jarring with that tech needing a lot of wheel spin to work. It didn’t look much different from the LR 3/4’s in that way. The NAS 90 was smoother but the driver looked more experienced but the short wheel base definitely made it more nimble. The Gladiator’s length hampered it a bit.

@doctornick6267 4 года назад

This was great! More of this stuff, please! 👍🏻👍🏻🔥🔥✨✨

@KTMcaptain 3 года назад

What PSI are you running on the Gladiator tires? they look quite stiff

@jay4627 4 года назад

You need to air the JT down to at least 15 running 35s on 17s

@Ganbala 4 года назад

From A land Rover Owner to Jeep Gladiator team Beautiful Flex suspension with good posing design But that B-over no good is not design for the Extreme in mind. About the Defender to be honest look nice and perform similar like my Rover nothing new there but need 3 lockers to go heavy weight and kill the Mercedes G class and then I am Happy. Cool Story Bro

@MJOLNIR11707 4 года назад

The Gladiator needs 40’s💪🏽

@89jmcfar 4 года назад

Mannn I wanted to see the 4Runner!

@gilbertarnold8666 4 года назад

Great video thank you!

@Eightball2516 4 года назад

The defender showed up the Jeep that had lockers if I owned the Jeep I would be embarrassed

@macnoypii 4 года назад

Try a wrangler, see how that compares

@rigom.2853 4 года назад

Yeah and the old ass defender showed up the brand new $80,000 defender 🙄

@V8AmericanMuscleCar 4 года назад

Anything so big would have problems here.

@James-mo5uj 4 года назад

Not really a fair statement. The Jeep was on a different line when it could get over. The Defender simply went around the rock that Jeep failed on.

@chaquisa1 4 года назад

@@rigom.2853 FFs mate it had a 3 inch lift with rear lockers and 37 inch tires a high performance V8,,are you brain dead or what ?? Short wheel base to boot !!

@sylvain-paulcote5470 4 года назад

The newer Defender looked as if it had limited slip diffs. Maybe no lockers, but just as you say "now is when you need the locker", the front wheel which was in the air stopped spinning and the Defender moved forward. So it looks like it has limited slip.

@ej732 4 года назад

The guy in the FJ is already at the top making lunch.

@johannesschaller5510 4 года назад

The old (and much modified) Defender used brawn to overcome what the new Defender should have been able to do with brains. Not quite enough brains to manage that stretch with ease, in my opinion, but a good effort for a stock vehicle. Gladiator just suffered from its long wheelbase; put 36” tyres on it and 3” lift, and it would’ve gone up fine.

@cotrails8356 4 года назад

Locked P400 arrives next week... more to come!

@1dumpedviper 4 года назад

The Wrangler Rubicon would eat the Defender alive on the rocks, stock for stock. You can also never put 40's on the Defender, so both being built, there's no comparison in hardcore offroading. The downside, the Defender is far superior in ride and comfort if your using it for your daily, which most do. Pick your poison! Cant wait for the new Bronco with the Sasquatch package. What a great time in automotive history, so many options!