went to Rausch Creek on 12/29/07 and decided to go to the tank traps first..on the way out of them the drivers side shaft completely sheared off leaving the wheel free to come out. Axle breaks at around 1:30, cant miss it
It is amazing that there are people who own jeeps that think that you, I, and many others are stupid for driving it offroad. This is what jeeps are built for! Keep having fun, brother!
I did that with a launch box locker in the rear. Wheel slid out and lost my brakes when the drum slid off to. Used a hi lift to jack it up in the mud and slid the axle and wheel back in as I putted out of the woods. Don't care what anyone says its a jeep and a hobby, worth the money to me
Been there, done that. I got rid of my piece of trash 35 after I broke it a second time. I'm glad I at least got semi-float axles so I could limp back to the car trailer and not have the shaft fall out like the c-clip axles. haha
Lockers would break jeep axles much easier. Think about it: In a high-stress situation on a jeep's axle, an open differential sends the power to the tire with the least resistance and cuts power from the tire that is stuck. This minimizes the axle stress. A locker forces the power to be distributed evenly to the free tire AND the stuck/jammed tire, creating heavy torque to move the wheel with resistance. This will snap an axle much faster.
@jeeptj02 This happened to me in Costa Rica, I left it there and it's been there since 2005. I have revisited the Jeep last year with an ATV and the Jeep is overgrown with vines and moss and a tree branch(rather large to bend the roll bars) was on it.. I tried starting it and it ran. I will get it hopefully soon. Its on my property anyway, 180acres of jungle
that handy dandy winch on the front. then just drove it with the front axle out of the park.. had to keep jacking it up and pushing the wheel with the broken half of the axle shaft back in
@flecur08 The locker will definitely help control wheel spin. In this situation it could have gotten me up the hill the first try and not allowed as fast wheel spin on the drivers rear. As for strengthening the axle shafts and the stock carrier, i would have to disagree.
I think I know where they get their claim from, they are probably claiming that the carrier or other locker pieces are stronger than the carrier and/or spider gear pieces they are replacing, in that case they are correct. Those pieces HAVE to be much stronger because they will be seeing much higher loads than the open differential pieces would see.
@flecur08 Your gut instincts are completely correct. A locker will not make the axle shaft any stronger, and while it does not make the shaft weaker, its has the potential (somewhat driver dependent) to put MUCH more stress on an axle shaft than an open differential. Open differentials always spit the torque 50/50 between each axle, that is why breaking a single axle shaft in in open diff axle assembly is almost unheard of.
if you know other people with jeeps try to find a forum or a group and get used or spare parts from there.. i fixed my axle for free the next day, got the parts from a buddy who had spare axle shafts
@bkytex every aspect of a jeep wrangler is designed around off road capabilities. There's a reason you don't see Solid live axles under a ferrari. I've ridden 4 wheelers and dirt bikes and neither are as fun as driving my jeep.
no they are goodyear mt/rs the problem that i couldnt get up was that the hill was all icy with slippery rocks and i just went through a foot of water,,i probably would have made it if my turdy-5 didnt break
I bought a 4 wheeler ATV for the off roading, its more fun I think, especially when ATV's are made for it, But hey, if you got the funds for repairs, have fun...
@jeeptj02 Have you installed a SYE yet? That's another thing that will get bound up and snapped off in a shitty situation. I just got mine on last week (advanced adapters SYE / tom woods C.V. driveshaft) and it completely eliminated my driveline vibrations. And it allowed me to take off that shitty T-case drop too, which loosened up my tranny and almost completely eliminated my 2nd gear grind when cold. Magic!
Touche, I have 44's front and rear which are more than adequate for running 33's, and I've never had a problem. However, a friend of mine just replaced his 60 after it cracked last month in the North GA Mountains. 35's are a bit notorious for breakage though.
The axle was like "Fuck it, im OUT"!! It happens. I had a 95 Jeep. I broke one going down the road @ 40 mph. It sounded like a shotgun going off. Next thing you know im 3 wheeling it down the road. Wheel, tire, axle & all slid out of the tube & bounced into the ditch.
@ilove79fords the front axle did not break, and was never broken from wheeling. the rear is not affected by the steering being crooked. the rear broke because the left rear tire gained too much traction while it was spinning. Causing the shitty dana 35 axle shaft to shear. the stEERing was not coked it was COCKED. im very suprised you spelled brakes right. congrats
@l337pwnage true about the locker but what the heck are you talkin about with the open diff. when one tires looses traction, all the power goes to it. its never 50/50. and open diffs break single shafts everyday of the week.
@flecur08 axles, in essence, are a torsion bar. They can twist pretty far before they break so it it very tough to build that much momentum with an open diff to overcome the maximum twist of the axle. Here are a couple good samples of axle twist and locker damage. /watch?v=G109e8rRotg /watch?v=ToIzvICvZpI Most lockers don't break axles through shear force, tho. Axle shafts, like any spring, only have a limited number of "cycles" before they fatigue and break. Lockers increase cycles & force.
they obviously dont suck that bad if they have enough traction in the ice and mud and wet rocks to break an axle shaft. Also ive never heard of the carrier bolt breaking before an axle shaft on a dana 35
@jeeptj02 i read in a jeep magazine, wether it was right, i dont know, but they stated that the locker would help control the spin of the tires and would streghten the axles slightly, sounds kind of like bullshit to me but it was a legitament magazine so i think it would be right. but a week axle is a week axle. locker or not, thats just my opinion
@flecur08 Well I specifically used the word torque for a reason. Measuring horsepower requires a distance to be traveled, so you are correct when you say it unequally distributes the horsepower. RU-vid is not really the place for an engineering discussion, tho, lol. I have managed to shear a pinion & a cross pin in in open diffs, but never an axle yet. Theoretically, you could lift a tire and spin it fast enough and drop and break the axle, but you'd have to be an incredibly poor driver.
Did the D35 happen to be locked? I am getting an Aussie for my D30 next week. So are you going to get like a super 35 kit or something? I see you have the warn front bumper as well, I just got one and love it!
i seen guys at rausch creek on the hill climbs behind the comp course , open front and locked rear had no busness being on that trail, ended up breaking a rear shaft and rolling down the hill and the shaft on pass side almost fell out completly. dude had no clue how to fix it
@jeeptj02 Odd question ... but does it matter if the 8.8 comes from a crown vic, ranger or explorer? They all have the same bolt pattern and the crown vic comes with a coil rear suspension
Very interesting facts, most Locker Companies say they increase your Axle strength, I agree with there statement, your changing out some Weak parts in your Axle like your Spiders gears for something Solid, a One Piece item, it was probably wish-full thinking on this driver that he could run 35's, I wouldn't consider 35's with a stock Axle, changing out to a 44 would have been better. Seeing how he broke his was very interesting, I see he was flooring it to get over and he Bounced.
how do you like the 8.8? i have a d35 in my yj.. and its on 33s haha. i just made a little "emergency d35 kit" which includes a 2x4 and some ratchet straps so i can keep the tire on on the way home haha, i don't think it'll last long since i have a tendency for my foot to "slip" off the clutch. was the 8.8 an easy swap and how much did it cost?
How do you know if its the axle shaft or spider gears? This happened to me today going up a hill just like that... I was able to put it in 4H and get home though (30 minute drive) in 2wd though my rear clunks a lot. I dont think its the axle because i didnt have much trouble in 4 but in 2 my rear clunks alot and i think its the spider gears.
I'm laughing at FordBoyREDNECKK! lol broncos ain't shit when it comes to jeeps! IFS vs. solid Axle... Leaf springs with little flex vs. Coil springs and control arms... 2.9L V6 vs 4.0L I-6. I could go on and on and on....
@jeeptj02 real jeep owners do this shit you did your jeep good and should be proud of the repairs because you did em yourself fuck all the haters that don't know how to own a jeep properly
Actually I bought a 2013 Tundra thats fantastic, much better economically, and more reliable, also bought a nice 4 Wheeler, that made for the stuff people do with Jeeps.
@TheBeedy dont think 15 degree weather and barefeet would mix. lockers would probably break that axle much easier. Mashing, breaking, and wrenching is the whole fun... just bring the ladies along and get them dirty when you break shit. Babes can work too!
@BigWalkinTallV yes it will but u shouldnt be wheeling and not expect to break shit i have 60s in my rig and i still break shit but then again i run 40s and a big block i have a full spool front and a detroit locker rear and i always have 2 rear shafts and 2 front shaft with me at all times and replacement ujoints always bring all you can when you wheel or a trailer lol
