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Jeep with ARB air locker vs open differential muddy offroad 4x4 

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A little video where you can see what difference a ARB Air locker can make. After few rainy days our offroad playgrounds were full of mud and fun. This little hill was pretty ok when it was dry, but rain and mud can change everything.
Jeep Wrangler JK (35 inch tyres, ARB Airlocked)
Jeep Wrangler TJ (33 inch tyres, open diff)
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@sector783
@sector783 3 года назад
ALL Jeep WRANGLERS should come with lockers.
@UAEboy327
@UAEboy327 9 лет назад
The song is a bit irritating
@proofofpurchase747
@proofofpurchase747 8 лет назад
👍
@justenough730
@justenough730 5 лет назад
Fucking horrible,that would be torture, to be forced to listen to
@ssimon64
@ssimon64 5 лет назад
Fuk yeah it is!
@dufus2273
@dufus2273 5 лет назад
chaining up is a lot less expensive for those occasional rough spots. if you do this daily, a locker is a good idea.
@Frissdas1207
@Frissdas1207 Год назад
lmao, chains wouldn't have helped you here. if anything it just would have dug deeper pits for the next person.
@JeepArmyUSA
@JeepArmyUSA 9 лет назад
Yes sir! Lockers all day everyday under those conditions.
@outdoorski6735
@outdoorski6735 5 лет назад
So the moral of the story is vehicles with lockers are better for the environment versus Vehicles without
@nathan00campbell
@nathan00campbell 2 года назад
odd take, but yes if you are wanting minimal ground damage.
@jasont7814
@jasont7814 2 года назад
I think the moral of the story is black Jeeps are better than red Jeeps?
@chrisurfer83
@chrisurfer83 2 года назад
Just go faster.... That's all...
@lror
@lror 8 лет назад
We have done a recent video of arb vs maxi vs traction control.
@TheVintagetamiya
@TheVintagetamiya 8 лет назад
31: the guy got smacked in the face by mud
@Haza3137
@Haza3137 6 лет назад
Damn those things make a huge difference
@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942
Nice Thanks for sharing Lockers make a big difference
@jeffreywrangler2224
@jeffreywrangler2224 5 лет назад
Lockers help you so much and you don't have to be as hard on your rig to get over things.
@MrJoshcc600
@MrJoshcc600 3 года назад
But lockers are so much harder on your rig components IE ring gears, Axel shaft's..... You lock up a sgock dayna 30 your going to sheer off all your gears and now up your u joints unless you know exactly what you're doing
@charlaurent3989
@charlaurent3989 Год назад
@@MrJoshcc600 true, but if you ever really were gonna do some serious off roading, you wouldnt have put lockers in a dana 30 to begin with
@namelessdata4608
@namelessdata4608 2 года назад
I need to do my axels, might as well get some lockers to go with them while I'm down there. Do the job once and be done with it!
@Wireman134
@Wireman134 6 лет назад
Awesome sauce Euro boys
@caribbeanj
@caribbeanj 8 лет назад
awesome
@supersmalls
@supersmalls 9 лет назад
i see this jk around perth quite often
@jontest5718
@jontest5718 2 года назад
The red jeep just needed a bigger snorkel. Couldn’t get any air down in that ditch.
@mohalabbasi
@mohalabbasi 6 лет назад
Very good
@TytheBandit
@TytheBandit 7 лет назад
Nice snorkel.
@441greenleaf
@441greenleaf 7 лет назад
before bu ying dif locks, those 2 guys need to google what " momentum " is
@pigtrotter6740
@pigtrotter6740 5 лет назад
Are you serious? Fuck the whole car up by going a fraction quicker
@4JeepxJK4
@4JeepxJK4 5 лет назад
Momentum is your number one friend
@cameronmahon7242
@cameronmahon7242 5 лет назад
Why if you can do it without. It's like kipping a pullup
@randymarsh-Tegridy420
@randymarsh-Tegridy420 5 лет назад
matt t Other broken parts? Out on a remote trail, where you don’t have the luxury to fix something. Excessive wheel spin can break u-joints, snap axels or damage transmission and transfer case internals. Safety as well. Maintaining speed and control that avoid a rollover, miles away from prompt recovery. Faster speeds can also make the vehicle bounce around and lose significant traction.
@alecoronel10
@alecoronel10 4 года назад
Dude that’s why I was like umm let’s go a lil bit faster yeah? Lolol
@fastfordman1965
@fastfordman1965 8 лет назад
Left foot braking technique works well with open duffs as well.
@lunapro9853
@lunapro9853 5 лет назад
fastfordman1965 Damn Skippy 👍
@jasonguy6572
@jasonguy6572 4 года назад
sounds like youre power braking in the mud
5 лет назад
Subbed I guess u will buy a Jeep with from and rear lockers for sure
@surferdjnj
@surferdjnj 2 года назад
Wouls a clutched type locker work there too? I guess so if you keep wheels spinning a little right?
@KMT15
@KMT15 7 лет назад
Why would you have a snorkel with no lockers? You have no business going in water that deep with out front and rear lockers.
@ChuckRage
@ChuckRage 6 лет назад
KMT15 Snorkels are not actually meant for water. Their primary purpose is to take in cleaner and less dusty air than there would be if the air was being pulled in at a location closer to the road. It is especially helpful when driving in convey on dirt roads where the vehicles in front throw up a lot of dust.
@chir0pter
@chir0pter 6 лет назад
"Snorkels are not actually meant for water" nonsense
@georgewashington938
@georgewashington938 6 лет назад
snorkels look cool
@NOLAnwa87
@NOLAnwa87 6 лет назад
TheNicknack43 he was joking bruh
@transws6am
@transws6am 6 лет назад
no he wasn't. he was being the typical jeep elitist douche bag.
@davidwalden5941
@davidwalden5941 9 лет назад
would be great to see how the standard jk would go just with the BLD. thanks for posting!
@schledewitz
@schledewitz 9 лет назад
We might make a test / comparison BLD vs. Lockers. I always was a fan of BLD, would be interesting to see.
@volodymyrprosov6134
@volodymyrprosov6134 4 года назад
eug what is bld?
@butch93105
@butch93105 2 года назад
@@volodymyrprosov6134 Brake Lock Differential 2 years later. Essentially, Brake Lock Differential is the part of Jeep's brake traction control system that controls wheel speed side to side across a driven axle.
@GrumblesM4
@GrumblesM4 3 года назад
Isn’t the dyna trac reared option a limited slip differential?
@AllTerrainAction
@AllTerrainAction 4 года назад
Makes a huge difference, does the open diff Jeep have automatic brake differential system or some type of electronic traction control system to help the open diffs move power around to wheels with traction?
@MrJoshcc600
@MrJoshcc600 3 года назад
2012 and newer have auto breaking diff with the computers
@AllTerrainAction
@AllTerrainAction 3 года назад
@@MrJoshcc600 as in it brakes right axle to push force open diff to power left axle vise versa yeah?
@motormaniac1
@motormaniac1 7 лет назад
What exhaust is on the black JK?
@amacca995
@amacca995 6 лет назад
Im sure the extra inch of diff height would have made a difference also.
@WojciechP915
@WojciechP915 9 лет назад
How about actually using the ebrake with the open diffs. Its easy to just slam on a gas pedal....
@kristenmoon4405
@kristenmoon4405 3 года назад
Ty for the video, nice to see an example of dif's in action. My question is if the situation is that slick, why not just lock front and rear? I keep hearing ppl say to just lock rear 90% of the time. (New to this stuff, buying a 2021 Rubicon soon)
@mrrod3004
@mrrod3004 2 года назад
Both diffs locked makes it hard to steer and puts alot more strain on the system. In a straight line like this I would have locked both only if needed.
@mrrod3004
@mrrod3004 2 года назад
You never want to ride with both diffs locked if you can. Less wear and tear on the entire system and will save you tires an be much easier on turns.
@Zachnotfickle
@Zachnotfickle 9 лет назад
My question to you is if I can't get lockers yet for my wk grand cherokee. What am I to do in a situation like this. It was snow for me going up a hill. I am going to get km tires. Could I use the E break? Or turn off traction control and esp would that help?
@MrJoshcc600
@MrJoshcc600 3 года назад
Momentum
@alecjohnson3474
@alecjohnson3474 9 лет назад
I have lockers on my Jeep JK running 37s but nothing is fun like open diffs and mud.
@KenSiefert
@KenSiefert 6 лет назад
If you use your E-brake with the open diffs you will engage necessary wheels...works every time
@alpinezach
@alpinezach 5 лет назад
with BLD/LSD only?
@HartyBiker
@HartyBiker 5 лет назад
Unless you drive a Landcruiser like me. Then your handbrake does nothing at all
@subenopatton7865
@subenopatton7865 5 лет назад
0:31 lmao I feel bad for that guy.
@bobbates6642
@bobbates6642 5 лет назад
Had to turn the sound off
@travisjantz5281
@travisjantz5281 6 лет назад
Its cause hes hitting the hitch which slows him down before the dip in the hill
@JorgeHernandez-sj5ts
@JorgeHernandez-sj5ts 4 года назад
This Detroit locker really works. I just had my put in on my front differential, “ WHAT A DIFFERENCE “,
@JeepTJWheelin
@JeepTJWheelin Год назад
Too many cons with a cheap lunchbox locker.
@ronjaime3493
@ronjaime3493 6 лет назад
Same tires?
@bobcat718
@bobcat718 Год назад
How are the ARB lockers? Reliable?
@sudilos1172
@sudilos1172 8 месяцев назад
Is locking hard on the hardware?
@McMilllllian
@McMilllllian 8 лет назад
We're these also performed by 2 different handicapped drivers? I could put a lift kit on a geo metro (fwd 1.0 3 cyl open transaxle), get a decent running start and pass pothole of these with left foot braking
@go4x4media
@go4x4media 8 лет назад
+j Sure you would. Very proud of you.
@adamkingsho
@adamkingsho 8 лет назад
i agree done worse with less effort in a manual suzuki sidekick with bold tires all depends on who is behind the wheel
@iMernerner
@iMernerner 8 лет назад
Yes you can
@causeuncause4059
@causeuncause4059 7 лет назад
John Smithson yeah the difference between tires the one with open diff had all terrains the other had mud tires
@georgewashington938
@georgewashington938 6 лет назад
it is the air compressor that did the trick
@nathanfisher4116
@nathanfisher4116 5 лет назад
No doubt that lockers are better, the real question is, who had more fun?
@rickyspanish5326
@rickyspanish5326 5 лет назад
True
@jasonguy6572
@jasonguy6572 4 года назад
The guy that made it up the hill. That is quite a feeling
@laprepper
@laprepper 2 года назад
The one who didn't go around
@JeepTJWheelin
@JeepTJWheelin Год назад
Stupid question! 🙄
@OrcActual
@OrcActual 9 лет назад
What rear tire carrier is on the black jeep?
@whentertainment6011
@whentertainment6011 6 лет назад
Givin er eh just about every one
@barkerfmx
@barkerfmx 6 лет назад
Love my arb air lockers on my TJ
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 5 лет назад
Do you really need the rear locker instead of just front and center, with just a limited slip diff on the back?
@stevepalmer7093
@stevepalmer7093 5 лет назад
Yes
@MrJoshcc600
@MrJoshcc600 3 года назад
Depends on the model wrangler. The tj here doesn't have the limited slip breaking the jk does, nor the dayna 44 front or 410 gears. This has a lot more going into it then just lockers. If your voting a wrangler sport there's a ton more into it then just lockers, otherwise you add elocks to your sport and without the right know how your stripping you're ring and pinion bald in 5 min then in for 6k in repairs to the same setup
@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol 3 года назад
@@MrJoshcc600 Better answer than expected
@MrGee13133
@MrGee13133 9 лет назад
I don't think this a fair test at all....The open diff locker vehicle has got All Terrain tyres and the ARB Airlocker Vehicle has got bigger Mud Tyres. If the tyres were the same? I reckon they would be both getting up that hill with ease. Mud tyres make such a big difference....
@BainsHD
@BainsHD 8 лет назад
Also 6 cylnd vs 4cylnd
@atypical_moto
@atypical_moto 7 лет назад
MrGee13133 It's an open diff front and rear. Only 2 tires have power between all 4 VS A vehicle that can lock both diffs and have 4 wheels of equal power. Notice how the locker equipped vehicle still couldn't make it with only the rear locked. If that jeep can't do it with the rear locked on mud tires, how would a jeep with open diffs front and rear make it on mud tires? It's significantly worse performing.
@giannisalustri7848
@giannisalustri7848 7 лет назад
Right now !! tyres made differce, any one get on
@kyle_medina
@kyle_medina 6 лет назад
Don't know the brand but you can pause at 0:40 and it has MT not AT on the spare tire.
@giannisalustri7848
@giannisalustri7848 6 лет назад
not important 6 or 4 cl, importanti are tyres , mud tyres make a big difference ,,,,, trai same action with tractor design or powerguard mud track from Marschall or good rich
@balalunga1
@balalunga1 5 лет назад
A lock in the front axle is the only thing i‘m missing on my Ford Ranger
@wymanmore3982
@wymanmore3982 7 лет назад
Ol' red appeared bare bones stock practically; + Snorkle & tires. It didn't even look like it had a sway bar disconnect, proper shocks/springs. (?).............. Sucks to be him.
@marsoelflaco5722
@marsoelflaco5722 3 года назад
Is that technically an "open differential" if Jeeps in 4H and 4L with no lockers activated automatically use the Break Lock Differential System?
@namelessdata4608
@namelessdata4608 2 года назад
Yes
@lycanr1586
@lycanr1586 6 лет назад
Does open differential mean its only one tire spinning?
@seanoblock8527
@seanoblock8527 5 лет назад
If the vehicle is in 4wd, all four will spin if they all have traction, but once you lose traction or lift a wheel, only one tire on that particular axel will be spinning.
@namelessdata4608
@namelessdata4608 2 года назад
On a 2wd its technically just 1 wheel spinning on 4wd is technically 2 wheels ( 1 front, one back). It's actually a safety feature for snow/ice/rain. Road driving. But if you get traction on all wheels then you get all 4 spinning even with an open diff. If you drove with locked diff everywhere every day, a daily driver, you'll probably end up crashing, especially at higher speeds when taking curves on the highway. Locked diffs are not meant as daily drivers
@nathansunnaa7222
@nathansunnaa7222 4 года назад
Please please please! Do something with that broken record you call music.
@rksanders13
@rksanders13 5 лет назад
One has alot more ground clearance than the other.
@OtherDalfite
@OtherDalfite 5 лет назад
Lol neither of them have the ground clearance for that main rut. Second one barely had enough
@spoonyspoonicus4648
@spoonyspoonicus4648 5 лет назад
Trust me diff locks save money
@calebbennett6947
@calebbennett6947 5 лет назад
Depends if you have ifs if you get a wheel off the ground and come down on it hard while spinning there goes your CV. But if you know how to wheel and pick the right line lockers wont cause a problem.
@toothless01
@toothless01 5 лет назад
wow who would have thought that four-wheel drive is better than two wheel drive. I'm glad you showed me the difference.
@jonlee5642
@jonlee5642 5 лет назад
? They make jeeps wranglers 4x2?
@Suprafly954
@Suprafly954 5 лет назад
Not sure you know what lockers are......
@jakep4503
@jakep4503 5 лет назад
Do you even know what a diff locker is?
@94SexyStang
@94SexyStang 5 лет назад
Most Jeeps ARE 2wd.......they got that crappy LSD 4x4, it's a fake 4wd system.
@Maxumized
@Maxumized 5 лет назад
The red Jeep is technically 2 wheel drive
@mikekosar6135
@mikekosar6135 2 года назад
Or you really need to pull e-brake And release rapidly while trying forward Progress..with open differential…😜👍
@bdd1469
@bdd1469 9 лет назад
Lockers are nice, I have two, but... when you are wheeling in clay/sticky mud you need to keep the tires tread cleaned out. You need to find a gear that generates wheel speed quickly without causing too much vehicle speed. If you generate too much vehicle speed you end up bouncing around and losing traction, which the open diff jeep did. The idea is to keep the mud slinging from what ever tires are spinning, be it 1 or all 4 without going so fast you loose your traction or line. Im sure most off you know this. Im just sick of people thinking lockers are the key to everything offroad when smart driving is the real key. I would have wheeled that peg leg, open diff jeep up that hill without a issue.....
@jasonwhatmough7178
@jasonwhatmough7178 9 лет назад
i'll believe it when i see it, the only way up that with opens was speed which you can choose to or not to do. it wasnt a lack of clearing mud, but that drop on the drivers side was big enough the rear drivers tyre was off the ground. doesn't matter what tyre you have and how clear it is, if its off the ground your power is going to that one. whereas at least with speed you can get enough momentum that even with your open wheeler in the hole you have the momentum to travel over it untill your tyre contacts again
@atypical_moto
@atypical_moto 7 лет назад
bdd1469 That jeep had no chance. It could hardly even make it to the spot where it got steep. Let alone even begin to climb it.
@causeuncause4059
@causeuncause4059 7 лет назад
Kenny Rodger because it had All terrains if it had mud tires then yeah it would make it up that hill with no problem
@KMT15
@KMT15 7 лет назад
Moto Milk how? The jeep with mud tires couldn't make it up with the rear locked in (3wd) so how could a front and rear open diff jeep (2wd) make it up with the same tires?
@davidnichols7485
@davidnichols7485 5 лет назад
Throw v bar chains on even bald tires chew with chains on watch zip ties and bias plies from here in Alberta canada on u tube
@Yo_its_pip
@Yo_its_pip 5 лет назад
Lol why not just use one vehicle and engage / disengage the locker?
@macneoh7418
@macneoh7418 4 года назад
Floor it until you break something!!!!
@JeepTJWheelin
@JeepTJWheelin Год назад
🤪💥
@edmcq7012
@edmcq7012 6 лет назад
Not a great comparison. Jk vs Tj... not really fair
@dano8065
@dano8065 2 года назад
Only thing not fair about this comparison is one has a locker the other doesn't. Oh and one is the best jeep ever built and the other is a fiat mini van. Lol! Jk! I love them all but definitely prefer a TJ.
@benfinlayson5601
@benfinlayson5601 5 лет назад
Stock triton would get to the top in 2wd. First lesson, buy decent fourby, second lesson, learn to drive your Mitsy hard n have fun doing so
@gp3012
@gp3012 Год назад
why would you buy a jeep that didn't have lockers?
@sevenhornets
@sevenhornets 4 года назад
In that slop doesn't matter much.
@uyou2tube
@uyou2tube 9 лет назад
The tires don't do anything if they are equally coated in mud. I'd love to see the red jeep stop half up on the hill and then drive out with any tire set up money could buy it! It won't do it with a shitty open diff.
@causeuncause4059
@causeuncause4059 7 лет назад
Dylan the red one was stock well obviously it's gonna be shitty all it had was a snorkel and what type of engine it had and how much HP and it also had all terrains if you ever drove a jeep with all terrains in mud then you will get stuck if you had Mud tires it would be different so no open diffs are not shitty
@Diamondbac
@Diamondbac 2 года назад
Beats me why anyone serious into off roading would not not have front and rear locking diffs. I mean it's just common sense.
@puppers7474
@puppers7474 5 лет назад
4Full time dead.
@timothycash9577
@timothycash9577 4 года назад
Lockers are for people that do not know how to offroad or have a winch.
@payenbraaap1664
@payenbraaap1664 3 года назад
you guys dont know how to use throttle
@causeuncause4059
@causeuncause4059 7 лет назад
I have open diff and I can make it up that hill and plus I have mud tires
@nathansunnaa7222
@nathansunnaa7222 4 года назад
Ur right kill the fkn music, them bush guards/ stingers make them wranglers lQQk mean though, but seriously kill the fkn music, I can’t associate disco 💃 to off-road. There’s a reason disco lasted only 15 minutes lol.
@PaulSullivan828
@PaulSullivan828 2 года назад
that's not even disco
@nathanchiaro5399
@nathanchiaro5399 Год назад
Hmmm let’s see I sell differential lockers so I want to show a scenario where you need to have one in each axle so I get more of your money duh!!😄😄😄😄
@paloamarilloPistola
@paloamarilloPistola 9 лет назад
Look me up @ WFP OFFROAD in Facebook
@W3TFART
@W3TFART 7 лет назад
Piss off
@78a67h
@78a67h 5 лет назад
Bottom line: There is no substitute for off-road driving technique. Sure lockers are a big help but only in the hands of the skilled driver, while they can creater big problems to those unskilled
@sector783
@sector783 3 года назад
Just curious, how can lockers hurt someone who is not skilled?
@78a67h
@78a67h 3 года назад
@@sector783 If not disengaged when hitting hard ground or negotiating turns they cause severe transmission windup which can destroy transmission line components. Also in certain cases they may cause tires to dig further down and immobilize the vehicle.
@sector783
@sector783 3 года назад
@@78a67h 👌 gotcha. Thank you for that.
@herewegofans
@herewegofans Год назад
Calling BS @0:39 . The fanboy has a snorkel kit so it 1 hundo could have done did that hill. LOL, JK. Shoulda put the money into mod that matters most. Locker is tier one in kit.
@1000stevenbl
@1000stevenbl 6 лет назад
Jeeps have limited slip differentials not open differentials. Huge difference between the two.
@92powerdiesel61
@92powerdiesel61 6 лет назад
Lord Humungus false the Jeep TJ did not come with an lsd.
@clarencemainjk9231
@clarencemainjk9231 6 лет назад
Huge difference. However, all jeeps don’t come with LSD.
@oldmanoverlanding7502
@oldmanoverlanding7502 5 лет назад
Open diffs will get you to the mall. That's about it.
@thomasbabb686
@thomasbabb686 5 лет назад
Only problem is in order to prove the effectiveness of the locker these jeepa need to be identical except for the locker. Same jeep, same lift, same tires, same driver.
@94SexyStang
@94SexyStang 5 лет назад
No, the first Jeep was NEVER going to make it up there.....it's obvious.
@giannisalustri7848
@giannisalustri7848 7 лет назад
how can you drive on mud with that bull shit tyres ..... use mud tyres selfclean .....
@mcfistoyourfood69
@mcfistoyourfood69 5 лет назад
Not a good "test" at all. Tires are not matching types. Ride heights unequal. Suspension, or lack there of, aren't the same set ups. Real Jeep enthusiasts know this isn't accurate.
@redneckrandy
@redneckrandy 7 лет назад
tires*
@RovingCanada
@RovingCanada 5 лет назад
Tyres* You spelled it wrong ;-)
@cedricdufresne3425
@cedricdufresne3425 3 года назад
2 Guy are bad Driver ...
@nathansunnaa7222
@nathansunnaa7222 3 года назад
Fkn music so fkn annoying
@MrBenjabin
@MrBenjabin 5 лет назад
Landcruisers, hilux and patrols are laughing
@jeremy8715
@jeremy8715 5 лет назад
JK bias much?
@chevyboy4976
@chevyboy4976 6 лет назад
lol what a joke
@jeffkersting8278
@jeffkersting8278 6 лет назад
Why does everyone put stupid ass music over everything!?! I'm done!
@sed2142
@sed2142 5 лет назад
My dodge stratus was better at muddin than those two Jeeps
@rickyspanish5326
@rickyspanish5326 5 лет назад
Hah not
@lunapro9853
@lunapro9853 5 лет назад
Roger that 👍
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