He wasnt ahead in the martial arts...therr were eclectic or mixed martial arts before bruce lee...it just wasnt well known or it was in the secret because army and special forces used it..he was ahead of his time in movies..he added to ku g fu mo oes other elements and developed the martial arts movies...
I used to practice bjj and trust me the original jiu-jitsu FROM JAPAN by far the best. Even the gracies were submitted by original jiu-jitsu practitioners. Also Jeet Kune Do Grappling is even more superior. Dan Inosanto teaches bjj and admits it is "A good art but too limited."
Bruce Lee originally learned Wing Chun, a type of Kung Fu. It's a martial art based on efficiency rather than flashy moves. He then applied some of these principles of Wing Chun and developed his own philosophy into JKD.
Man, you said it. It's easy to get get bogged down in the physical details that we as martial artists forget about the brain's role. Great vid, by the way. It will help me tremendously!
You're not supposed to tighten the fist until right before impact, but your hand has to be in a loose fist or your punch's strength, accuracy, and speed would suffer. You can see Bustillo's hands clench when he nears the hanging paper and snap back if you look closely. Hope this helps.
The primary reason Bruce's JKD emphasized the vertical fist is due to the heavy influence of Wing Chun in the creation of JKD. In addition, the vertical fist has several advantages over horizontal fist; mainly in the ability to align your body and use your body weight to power a punch, a la the one inch punch.
Though I agree to your observation there are different ways and techniques to the side kick. This one is stepping into it for power. Its not a kick you open up with but you set up for with punching. Bruce always was about getting a reaction out of his opponent so he can capitalize on cutting his opponents reaction time down because they never knew when he was going to attack. It buys time for the real attack and the next reaction is slower because he tries to anticipate. Attacks 101.
that was quite a simple thing to understand. But it's not just about that, it's got many sides to it, for instance not staying still and fixed into one pattern or way of doing things, both in daily life and martial arts; not limiting oneself to one style if you will. That philosophy of water, if applied, then one is truly alive
control over hips and shoulders are things that make some people faster, better sportists, stuntmen etc :) if you train your waist and these two centers of body mass, you'll be able to easily add on that and better your punches, football kicks, blocks etc etc
Correct me on this, I might be wrong, but having no set form means you have no restrictions. The philosophy of jeet kune do is one that emphasises freedom; meaning that, as long as the technique is effective, it will be used in jeet kune do. Many martial art styles are impractical because of tradition where tradition can restrict practicality. Some techniques in these martial art styles are retained and used simply because of historical value rather than because they are useful.
It's vintage and that's what makes it special. But there is not anything new here. I was a sport fighter in full contact karate and in judo. I learned more from fighting in tournaments than I did in the dojo. I learned even more from my days of back yard boxing and kick boxing with fellow fighters. This is the way to go. Get used to the hits and throws to the ground you won't go into shock when it happens in real life. clear combat fighting system
i luv the old school commentry. none of the coloured floral bullshit we have today just no nonsense straight to the point directness here, like the sidekick. gud vid, thnx for posting :)
The guy performing in this vid has good body mechanics. He doesn't appear to be straining with any of his moves but is able to get plenty of power out of them. This is a good exhibition.
You are both right in your own ways, there are to styles of jeet kunde do, there is jeet kune do, and lee jun fan jeet kune do(Bruce Lees Jeet Kune Do). The lee jun fan version is obviosly based on the same styles as bruce lee used, this was taught to Ted Wong, and the regular jeet kune do was taught to Dan Inosanto, they are todays only "pure" jeet kune do teachers(As they where taught by Bruce himself.).
Remember that if you bring your leg in you aren't moving forward. If you don't move forward, you aren't attacking-attack, attack, attack. If you bring the leg in, REALLY REALLY put your heart and soul into it and make it count man. Don't get angry, just really dig deep and make it count. PS, Not everyone kicks the same, but you have the right idea ("it works better for me") are the right words to say.
i don't learn jeet kune do, but we learn tat to make shots more powerful and faster is to basically catch wen u hit, for example wen u throw a punch u catch ur fingers together split seocnds before u hit, this way it is all relaxed until point of contact, its going form 0% to 100% enegery just like that, lol srry if i cant really explain it properly
I like the punching. With regards to the side kick - When lifting my striking leg I tend to bring me leg up and inward, there for the extension has more of a thrust and to me feels more powerful. I found it works better for me. From studying Bruce lee's form closely i see that he also aplies the same method. Any thoughts or opinions?????
Have a little more respect... I just read what you said and I check some of Bruce Lee's backyard training videos on RU-vid and even Bruce was off balance a little because he was kicking so hard! Bruce was in his 20's, this guy is in his 60's.
The on doing the kicks is Ted Wong, one of Bruce Lee's original students. The one doing the bunches I'm not so sure, but he looks like Taky Kimura, another of Bruce's original students. Excellent vid anyway.
A side kink in TKD, you chamber, i.e., you bring you (kicking leg) knee to the side of you body before firing it out, whereas in JKD you just 'pick' it up and fire (which incidentally is what in TKD refers to as a bad side kick i.e., no chamber)
That guy punching at the beginning could have had his hand in a loose fist until the end. And Ted Wong, Bruce Lee's training partner, was not "loading" or chambering his kick. He was simply slowing the process down so a beginner could see the movement.
Yes someone who is "tough" might be able to beat someone that has more experience than him in fighting or w.e but that doesn't mean martial arts don't help, of course if you do martial arts but never fight at your dojo, like fight for "real" then when it comes to the street you'll probably lose.
//Ted wong was Bruce test training partner// Must it covince me that he is good? Excuse me, I trust my eyes! As I remembr namely Bruce was one of those people who said that one must see things directly, not through a veil of authoritative opinions. Excuse me my poor english :)
pf91, ask to someone to push you with a fist twisting motion...after that ask to someone to push you with his fist in a vertical position(like in the video) you will see and feel the difference... The shoulder absorb a part of your energy when he his not in a vertical position.
something this video doesn't show is that it's actually a lot easier and smoother to just place the back foot backwards and in front of your lead as you step up to the sidekick. JKD is about doing whatever works for you so don't take me too seriously, but when you do a little hop for the pendulum step instead of a cross motion, a lot of the momentum goes into your landing instead of the kick and it's easy for novices to damage their hip that way.
@GabbysMyKittyRawr Just to clarify boxing is neither long range nor short range. There are inside fighters and outside fighters. outside meaning long range inside meaning close range. I kno theres also body throwers which throw there weight around more but i usually box from the outside so idk much bout the other methods
Different styles argue different techniques are best for different situations, right? I have heard from TKD and karate instructors that you should avoid punching to the face; They say a palm, ridgehand, or elbow strike would reduce the chance of broken bones. Also, some people roll over the punch palm down, and some throw vertical like Wing Tsun
Bruce lee based his jeet kune do on kung fu, boxing, and fencing, but that was not the final form of jeet kune do. He said jeet kune do was supposed to adapt over time and incorporate all types of techniques from any different martial art. He also said it has no form which also means it can take ANY form. It is said that it is formless as water, like when water is put in a cup it will take the form of the cup, likewise by having no form, jeet kune do can have any form.
These exersizes put you in positions that you never are in when in a real fight. People see the whipping kick a mile a way. There are so many great fighters in this world that never became actors.
Either that, or you just watch instruction vids on youtube. all stances are pretty much the same. except that in jeet kune do you use your strong arm as front, since the front arm is used more Bruce thought it made more sense that you jab with the strongest arm since the jab is used more. My best advice is to learn from a instructor though, then you'll be taught thouroughly ^^ best of luck mate!
u guys cant forget bruce used jeet kun do in a crazy way cause he was the founder dont forget the brain behind the body that he was using.guy was smooth as silk cool as a fan or a.c
jeetkunejimi you seem pretty cool, tell me do you do jeet kune do? I ask because I am 21 and learning and applying the JKD concept everyday. I have respect for all styles and systems and all people performing them. I want to learn as much as I can, anything you could tell me?
Yes, Ted Wong is one of the few students that maintains the concept of Bruce Lee, and I underline: concept. It is respectable the opinion from all over the world, logically. It is easy not to see in him Lee's speed, or that of Carruthers, but it is that that speed, accompanied by power, is within reach of very few. But to believe me, the appearances deceive, and a lot, in all.
How many JKD instructors can punch and kick like Ted Wong? Not any of the first generation at least. Im so glad to have the opportunity to study under one of Teds students.
Anthony Liu and D. Inosanto sparred with Bruce, and they both say that Bruce's thing was speed AND power. Not enough room to explain here, but remember the "iron bar attached to the chain..." It would seem that the 2 (speed and power) are mutualy exclusive - hence the Legend of Bruce Lee. Your post is intriguing... wouldn't a bullet's damage be due to it's shape (pointed at one end)?
I think... i could be wrong here... but it might be something to do with how you can change where you kick...it can be very decieving even slightly raising your knee, you could do any differant type of kick to any location... but after explaining this... i think i might be wrong :P
And another thing, not that I'm some master, I'm still very much a student, but what they said about the side kick is dead on. The pushing effect from a side kick is more of a bi-product of the stamping motion. The real goal should be to deliver a penetrating hit, which the video said, can be done with a snap of the hips.
wow... this is so different from the real JKD.... bruce taught that when u hit u are not going to stop only bechouse u have hit.... when u hit continue the hit until u cant hit straighter... sorry for my english :P
Of course the guy that's smarter, faster, stronger, more experienced is going to win, but that's why you train in Martial Arts, to gain those abilities.
Whenever I try to practice the punch, and twist my hips before my shoulders; I can feel tension in my knees because my hips are twisting but my feet are planted. Any advise?
there's no point in arguing this. read any of the books that have been published on notes he takes. he specifically talks about using the hand you're more comfortable and use more in your daily life as your lead hand because it is better. of course this doesn't mean neglect rear, it just means that attacks with rear should be either a reaction to an opponent or by creating an opening/countering with a lead hand, even if the lead does nothing but feint or parry.
Actually, I'm a poor college student and I train myself everyday out of many bruce lee books and martial arts books. I will hopefully be able to take up some Wing Chun classes soon but JKD is nowhere near me. I can't find anyone to spar me either so I have no idea where I am at skill wise. Any advice?
Not entirely. I'm embarrassed to admit that even after years of practice I thought JKD was a "mix of styles". Although that says a lot about the people who taught me, I wasn't curious enough and only after I began to study on my own did I see how revolutionary JKD was. Yes, it incorporates techniques from different styles, but JKD is a fighting method, a philosophy of training and a method of movement... and so much more.
haha you can tell this man was the shit back in the day. he's kinda old so when he does this shit slow motion (for demonstration) his form isn't spectacular. but when he hits at normal speed, damn. that side kick right there is my own deadliest weapon. its too bad though that this man uses only his right leg. even for demonstration videos you should use both legs. cool shit either way.
It is not poor technique, it is unconventional technique. The non chambering is very intentional, he wants to use mainly body power not mainly leg power as traditional martial arts do. Chambering compromises the ability of the full body to deliver force so that the leg can attempt to do the job.
can any1 please tell m ehow to kick high and how to stretch my legs so i can do high kicks and lift it up i dont want to hurt myself not knowing what to do any skillful martial artist please tell me most appreciated, thank you
I mean no disrespect my friend, but if he is teaching a style that rivals another, would he tell his students the other is superior or degrade the honor of his style?
jkd is fighting...there is no superior style and no fighter is superior with a style...a fighter needs to exert everything he can, kicks punches and throws....if a better punch is discovered than the one he was taught or if one punch suits him better than the one taught, he should add that new punch to his style...bruce lee's fighting philosophy is similar to mma fighters...they take the best from the arts they practiced and use what they find effective
AS CHINESE SAY" hit the soft parts of the opponent with your strongest weapons (punch elbow knee)and the strong parts of his bady with your softer ones(palms ridgehand etc)."
this vid si good but the orginal master was ince practising a side kick and he broke a 68 kilo bag totally torn it so the sid kick has got power also bruce lee said in the way of dragon tht if u want power you got tour whole powe behind the hips.
your rear foot should not be planted fixed, first, the rear foot should twist outward up on its toes. there should be no problem with the front foot if your fighing stance is correct.
Sure,i guess no one can beat Bruce Lee during his prime time. Even Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis admitted that they were both beaten down by Bruce during sparring.Bruce Lee is the true master all times!
actually it was me who said that the toughest wins, and yeah you are right, i dont know anything about martial arts, but i have seen a lot of fighting, on and off the ring, and most martial arts, fall short in both. i think you now a bit too much about martial arts, enough to trust them blindly
hey, you're in exactly the same situation as i am. where do you live? I live in india and there's no decent jkd instructor here and the only people i spar with are my friends all of whom are non martial artists.
""I have not invented a "new style," composite, modified or otherwise that is set within distinct form as apart from "this" method or "that" method. On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from clinging to styles, patterns, or molds. Remember that Jeet Kune Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which to see "ourselves". . . -Bruce Lee I don't know, maybe I misinterpreted it.
