JENSEN ACKLES Shares His Thoughts on Dean’s Ending in SUPERNATURAL  

i agree, i still really enjoyed the other seasons. but they definetly suffered from some bad writing/plot choices, and some boring fight scenes. that being said i got super invested again the last season... but must admit i was dissapointed at the ending. although, gotta give testament to jensens acting, i had a lump in my throat haha. i will miss the show for sure man, i very rarely get emotionally attatched to the media i consume but this is one of the very few exceptions.

@@sephy980 I saw the show in parts. Back and forth. I think season 5-10 was fantastic too. Seasons 12 to 15 were the least good

The moment it went from ghosts/demons to suddenly include angels and God and Lucifer that's when it went off the rails. Half the time it was dean just bitching because God didn't do x God didn't do y God didn't do z. Then they made God a sister...who apparently was smarter than God. I mean it really just got extremely stupid.

@@johnblack8872 Sam and dean just felt like family friends it’s weird shit where are one connects fictional characters

@@lanostrikoshernostra7292 for real, they were a part of our lives for 15 years haha.

Well actually they couldn't because of Covid. The original idea was to have everyone with Dean welcoming Sam after he dies.

@@mysticknight48433 well they should've waited then

@@knowethjc29 I don't think you understand how filming works or what was going on at that time

@@phantomgamer9264 I do understand how filming works and what was happening at the time I'm not a retard

@@knowethjc29 you must be cause they were on a deadline from the company and COVID was a thing think before you type

You’d of thought that as they are on the side of righteousness (literally doing gods work) on the show, that they’d of been compensated in some way, like maybe immortality for a bit until the balance of good and evil was level again. Or them not dying in the season. Or one of them getting married and their parents back for 24hours or something.

Dean often says he wishes that Sam gets to grow old and that's exactly what happens

@@jessieb7290 But that was the whole show, wasn't it? The whole story was that they were the main characters in an in-world story, playing with LITERAL God Mode cheats on. The ending was them sacrificing that protection for free will, and Dean, confused throughout the show how he'd possibly lived so long, playing so long with god mode on, immediately screws up a basic hunt. I didn't like it at the time either, but it was perfectly in character.

Tragic Jensen doesnt grasp hts himself

@@slevinchannel7589 it sounds like he did but he was talked out of it. 😕

This is not vulnerability

I loved it too as it helped me process losing my own older brother. We never got a chance to say what we really felt and seeing that play out and have Sam go on to have a family and a life of his own hit me really hard. Going on without him but still building a life rather than wallow in loneliness.

I absolutely agree

Exactly!!

It's amazing how many shows don't stick the landing, you have years of build up, then fall over at the end. Supernatural certainly wasn't the worst, it was just, meh. But on the other end you have a rare few that really nail a great send off and go out in style.

@@paulmccloud9395 I think a lot of shows try to be cutesy and divert the audiences expectations, but after years of commitment most audiences just want an ending that gives some closure and stays true to story and character development built up over the years. Friends vs HIMYM is the perfect example, friends just gave us more or less everything we wanted so we could ride off into the sunset satisfied, HIMYM tried to do too much and is remembered as an extremely dumb ending.

I totally agree! Way to rushed!

That ending would have been far too cliche. It’s foreshadowed over and over in the show that he would die on the hunt. The way he dies on the nail symbolizes the mortality of our characters, and I personally believe it was perfect.

That was the whole point Bro. From the very beginning Chuck had a hand in the adventures and now that he's gone they are free from plot armour and are exposed to the harsh reality of a side character.

@@littlemiller6 just because it symbolizes something doesnt mean it does it well. tired of these shitty ass endings and people making it up for it saying it symbolizes this or that and that its actually perfect. like bitch really? we gonna ignore the fact that if the ending was in season 5 it wouldve made sense. or the fact it distroyed all the character development?

But, mate, that's the point ain't it?

@@kylemendes7246 I'm not a fan of how it ended myself and there were to many plot holes like the fact that Chuck is all knowing but didn't pick up on Sam and Deans plans. Why does he all of a sudden become so childish. This is not the same Chuck I knew and like at the end of season 5. But then again the fans are always gonna bitch.

Same! We went on a year thinking we saw the finale! Honestly we half checked out last two seasons but still loved the show. We heard a podcast talking Dean cues and are like what? It might of been 18 months we didn’t know 😂

That's exactly how I felt as well

I still feel it was so pointless an episode... They could have ended it at the second-last episode and then had an epilogue after the credits showing Sam and Dean's meeting in Heaven with some flashes of their lives since, or something. They never needed to actually let Dean's nihilism win...

@@bakaichigo Their lives could never have been any other way. Dean is _the_ hero, he's the archetype given form, he would never stop hunting unless he was forced or he was dead, and Sam would never leave Dean alone after all they've been through. Sam's character has repeatedly been shown to be one who will sacrifice the life he wants to protect his loved ones. I didn't love the ending, but honestly it's one of the only ways for these characters' stories to play out. They could have just ended it with a ride in Baby with a song playing, but they chose to follow the story through to the end, and that's really the only way to give Sam his happy ending. Dean was never going to get a happy ending on Earth, he's only really ever loved two or three women and he watched them all die, he wouldn't have settled down and started a life with some random normal person.

Me too! I feel like that last episode was such a mistake.

It's the season 5 ending of the show, where I stopped watching the show, and frankly kind of my preferred end point. It's dark but Kripke ended it in a place that made sense. Sam the martyr, Dean has a new young family.

I mean, that's literally what Sam does

@@christiecakes014 Yes, but I think Sam is better equipped to do that, especially at this point, than Dean would be. Especially as early as season 5

@@jaycievictory8461 idk I didn't exactly get "healthy coping" vibes from Sam during the final montage, but either way it's so hard to think how the story would've continued with so many more factors that I feel the writers didn't/couldn't include (namely all the friends Dean and Sam still had that I don't think would allow either of the brothers to isolate themselves).

@@jaycievictory8461 Sam's lost pretty much everyone he cared about in the last year, he really shouldn't be able to cope with anything after losing Dean too.

He needs to be more honest and admit he still hates it.

"I think both sides are valid and I agree with both sides." You: "So refreshing to hear an honest actor!!!!" Lol

@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 , you heard him wrong. He said he has been in both camps. Meaning that his feelings have changed over time.

@@BB25_25Go back to reading your Destiel fan fiction and stop putting words in the mouths of people you don’t even know.

@@LuxValkyrie I’m a normal female fan, I don’t get involved with creepy fan fiction forums and lust over two straight men getting it on. When they retcon supernatural though and pretend that scene never happened, you can apologise. x

I suspect that final episode was written so it would be a complete end of the story. As much as the fans love the show and the characters, I think they tried to make us stop wanting more. Notice I said "tried."

I agree 100%. I always thought Dean was the one character who deserved a happy ending more than anyone else. And that’s the character they decided to give a bullshit death and ending too. I think they dropped the ball there. I also agree this bad ending was perhaps intentional so people wouldn’t want more. It worked on me. I completely cut off from spn fandom after that. Until very recently when I was made aware about s16 rumours. I was so cutoff I didn’t even know about the Winchester show until now. But yeah, at the same time that disappointing ending definitely left a fair amount of people wanting more because they wanted them to fix what they had done and write a better ending for Dean. I for one had no hope so I just left. Well I guess now that I am back, I hope S16 comes true and fixes the mistakes they made, specially Dean’s ending if they aren’t gonna fix anything else.

@@LegendaryTalesandTrailsI agree but i have mixed feelings. I actuallt just ended the show 2 days ago after 10 years since i first started watching. and it felt like i went through rhe 5 stages of grief. I liked it but i wanted more. but at the sametime i just dont know how they can made another season with an ending like that. Dean died doing things he wanted. He went down with a fight. and Sam died the way he AND dean wanted for him, a normal life, a child and wife died at old age. and Jack made things for the better as the new god Cas is out of the empty helping him. Everyone now at peace. the only way i can think of starting a new season now, starts with Dean sam's son and i think his name is dean because the clothes his son was wearing as a baby said "dean" on it. So sams son finds out about everything his dad and uncle did, and continues the family business, later bring back Sam and Dean for another adventure. maybe..

@@user-hr3lv4vn1l so crazy to find someone in same situation as me lol I watched this show for 4 seasons when it first aired and then literally did not watch it for the next 10 plus years because of a variety of reasons. I kept thinking I'll catch up because I didn't think it would last more than MAYBE 6 seasons!!! I am back to watching season 4, but I am already looking at all the spoilers and already watched the series finale lol. I agree with you in that I would have liked seeing them ride off into the sunset but I don't think that Dean would ever have stopped hunting. This way Sam could live his life and Dean was resting in heaven free from all his torment on earth. Sure is crazy watching this show at 53 when I was about 33? when I first started watching LOL

First complaint about the ending that made sense to me. Jack really should've sent all monsters to purgatory

I think the reason why jack let the monsters live on is that at the point of omnipotence and being all knowing he understood why the monsters were there, why they had to exist.

@@dennispatel3188 Interesting take. I just wish they had explained it a bit more. I still don't know what happened to Eileen..

@@ismaeldomingues41 some intentional loose ends I think maybe for some Supernatural special episode (maybe)

Don't forget...some monsters were good and were actually friends to the boys. For example Benny the vampire,then there was that werewolf skinny dude with twin babies named Sam and Cas. Etc. Eliminating all monsters would have got rid of those ones too and yet they weren't bad and deserved a chance.

yup..whole final season blew

Yes! Episode 19 works, that’s the ending for me

@@sim7409 cap, that shit was fire

I thought when Jack became god. That was the last episode.

Nevermind just watched the last episode. I'm glad they're at peace. However I didn't want it to end. 🤦

also they never really stay dead lol

​@@Chaos-zv2rz Doctor Who fans: better wait 17 years then.

I was struggling to understand the logic in that too until God said that they would lose their power and lick that came with being a part of God’s shoe since the show was his will and the boys while being told this at the time we’re good with those losses, didn’t realize how human and weak it would make them on their exact next mission after achieving free will

@@BruceKraftJr Yeah, it makes even more sense when you look at the episode where god removes their "plot armor" and they have to to go to the casino to get luck. In that episode it showed that without the "plot armor" they where literally normal humans. The Impala broke down (as old cars are supposed to) and Dean got food poisoning from eating at a shitty restaurant. In that state is entirely believable that Dean could get impaled on piece of metal while fighting a vampire because that's the kinda thing that could happen while fighting in a old barn.

Not even vamps a nail ! A nail took out the mighty Dean Winchester I'm still not over it 😅

Could have been a heart attack, sooo... 😂

@@Fenglang1 honestly, with all the pie & cheeseburgers and not being invincible anymore…😂

Yes 🙌

You stole the thought right out of my head! I tried to comment something to this sentiment but you worded it perfectly! The execution was fucking crap point blank period….. I would have happily and patiently waited a few years if I had to, if it meant they could do the boys justice.

I had been discussing this with my gf who's also a fan for months after the ending. The execution was a big problem. If it weren't for the pandemic, they could have brought tons and tons of characters back. Donna, Jody and the girls, Garth, other hunters who would come for Dean's funeral instead of being just Sam and the dog. Characters that were mentioned by name from Bobby when he met Dean in Heaven: John, Mary, Charlie, Kevin, Rufus, Cas, Jack, everybody else in between. The actors obviously couldn't participate because of Covid, so, if they had delayed the ending a little more, I think they could have brought back all these characters for a short cameo. That might've sat better with fans.

What bothers me is that they had a lot of extra time to really work on a perfect episode. The limitations of the pandemic surely put a damper on the cameos - but again, they had MONTHS to adjust and even write a new script and ending, instead of trying to rework one around what they didn't have. The show started with just the brothers - so why not an ending episode with just them and no cameos? A simple 2 hour clip show, where Dean and Sam just look back on what's happened and remember those that they lost and the adventures they've had. End with them getting a new lead on a case and heading off to do what they do, hunt. Or even fancy it up with their finding something in their dad's journal that they overlooked or never understood before, one last puzzle to be unlocked and head off on into the sunset on that clue. Either one keeps the boys out hunting and open to future movies. Or they could have just ended the show at Dean's funeral. The whole Sam's life after Dean portion was just terribly done and I think it's what really hurt the episode. That would have worked better as a really quick clip montage - Sam at a desk in Law School, Sam graduating, Sam in court, Sam getting married, Sam holding his son (who is NOT named Dean), Sam retiring, Sam dying, then the same final scene. We didn't need any dialogue, just classic Supernatural music until Dean says, Hi Sam.

They should have used 4/5 of an episode on Sam franticly trying to save his brother by supernatural means, while Dean fought to survive in a hospital, full on Grey's anatomy style, surgery and shit. Heartfelt goodbye. Then quick montage of Sam living his life and then the heaven thing. The way it went down was just boring and anti climatic. Off course he had to die and off course he had to be taken out by something insignificant, but he was a fighter and that death scene was so wrong for him.

@@alexandrosvlachadamis5318 Exactly! I didn't realize it happened because of the pandemic but I guess that kind of makes sense. I thought the way Dean died was humanizing, and I was ok with that. I thought their concept for Sam's life after Dean died, made sense, except they stripped all of the personalness out of it. Like, they have a friend who's god and brings everyone back except their friends? Or if they get brought back they're never seen or mentioned? Like, bring back Sam's girlfriend (blanking on the name), have her get pregnant so they give up hunting and spend their lives together, sneaking off from time to time to help Jody but otherwise growing old and making sure their kids never get involved in that world the way he never wanted to be. They missed all the little details.

Yeah but Sam was never really happy hunting unless he was with Dean and Sean never liked having a family because when Sam came back from hell without his soul Dean immediately started ignoring Lisa and Ben and hunting with Sam and the cambells

Yes, it was all the potential development that the ending essentially voided out. Sam lived a life and Dean died on a hunt, and if the series never occurred...Sam would have lived a life and Dean would have likely died on a hunt. So essentially there was NO POINT to the series because there was no growth between the beginning and end. I wasn't even really invested in the show by the end, and even I felt like it was a shitty ending.

@@LittleHobbit13 That's what death really is like. No matter how you grow, no matter where you end up. The reality is, everything comes to an end eventually. So you must ask yourself: Was it worth it in the end? Was it all pointless? I mean really, you can argue that, yes, they did experience growth and in the end, they technically went out in the way they wanted. Sometimes it's just time to bring everything to an end, and not all endings are perfect or even great. But, let's be fair though, the ending of Supernatural was emotional.

Your explanation is exactly why the ending made sense to me. The 15 years of the show was their journey but one thing never changed: Dean would hunt to the end and Sam wouldn't stop unless he had sufficient reason to. That reason was the (permanent) loss of Dean. And he got to appreciate a win of the ultimate battle- free will, no matter how short he got to enjoy it. My wife thinks the episode before it should've been the ending but I thought the last episode was necessary.

@@mustangguy8981 The boys did get the life they wanted together and separate.

I just went to the DC convention this past weekend and Jensen hinted so many times at bringing Supernatural back, I really think he has plans for the future for a revival or something

How he died though, Sam got old and died, they’re whole life played out, bringing them back would undo everything, they’re not bringing it back for that reason

“Hope, in reality, is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche

with all of the older shows getting new starts in returns, I am not ruling a Supernatural comeback out.

Well said. 👍

Truth is, not a joke. Me and my girlfriend watched thinking 19 was the last episode! We didn’t realize there was one more till a year Peter listening to this podcast… not a joke

Agreed

They did get to have them in heaven tho (:

nope 👎🏽

God damn 3 or 4 times that’s crazy

Get job make money dont waste time and life of on these things

@@tanmaysonawane4618 trust I haven't waist my life on this show. For you to think I have cuz I watched a show 3 or 4 times. Thats crazy. I'm sorry you even think like that.

@@gandomlee if u watch that show for 3 or 4 times that is like 57 days of content

@@tanmaysonawane4618 ok. 57 days this show has been going on since 2005. You can repeat seasons so many times. An episode a day can take 1 year and it's only 44 mins an episode. Itll take 3 years to watch it over 3 times. No I'm not saying I just watch 1 episode a day but you think I Bing watch a show in 57 days (57 DAYS) thats wild. and the fact you told me get a job make money cuz I watched it multiple times. And im wasting my life. But hey its your opinion.

I've watched the whole series so many times that I think I know all their lines. Lol As much as I'd love watching the characters continue with their lives, I still enjoy the 15 seasons they had. Jensen and Jared are amongst the greatest actors of all time. It takes great talent to make characters become so realistic that people love them as if they're real people. That's truly remarkable.

I agree. They should've gone out in a blaze of glory. And, no, Jensen doesn't like that rushed trash they call a finale.

He certainly doesn't. The finale script says "6 months" (after ep 19) & in one of the recent cons Jensen said the brothers lived for years after that. Poor guy's basically changing the canon to deal with that finale crap.

I have that feeling the main Supernatural series is not the last of it, even with the finale we had. Especially since this show was supposed to end seasons earlier and continued. It's all about what they want to do honestly. Never say never, I've seen things come back when I never thought I'd see, so it's entirely possible for a continuation at some point.

HBO should have picked up the show after season 5 and made it a more rated r type would have skyrocketed the show more than what it was I loved the show I rewatch the show all the time

Exactly! Bravo 👏

I think it needed to be small though. At it's core they were hunters. This is the most sam and dean way for it to happen. This is how dean always saw it would happen, he knew this was his end. He didn't know when but he knew

It would have been underwhelming even if they ended it in season 10 or 11 i've no doubt with how they're ending other shows half assed too it just would have... Misha saw the ending of Game Of Thrones too he was talking about it on twitter and we literally said to him "you better not end it a bad way" noop... happened anyway... and i wasn't sure if it was some sort of running joke at first so the confusion is valid i think most people are if they aren't pretending it was actually good lol but i don't think it is i just think there's a lot of other tension going on behind the scenes that they won't and probably can't talk about but mainly about money no doubt What else could it be? probs a few other things but it always comes down to that. It went on a bit too long though as well and i'd prefer now it just ended in season 10 or 11 cos after season 10 they so totally ran out of story lol from there i was just bored truthfully a couple episodes were fun but the rest nah... it was at it's best up to season 10 apart from the Metatron story that seemed to be a miss on most people especially when it was just an entire season of the angels fighting which nobody seemed to enjoy, so i think it's better to just watch it up to season 10. I thought the season with Jack was pretty cool though and the Scoobynatural episode but the rest there's nothing that really defining or interesting that happens so not worth rewatching that. I'm personally just taking a huge break from it all now i can't watch it again for a while and i'm not the only one it's just put us off for a while lol but we could use a break from it anyway so we can explore other things i think we were so into it we didn't give much else a thought.

Same bruh, this show raised me since I was 15 (I'm 31 now) and I felt so saddened and let down after the finale, and we have to admit, this show made us run for our money, but the finale was the biggest let down of them all.

@@jjejet I knew it would but Misha the devil incarnate he can be... tempted us into watching lol sometimes that man... i hate him lol but not funny he can just be an ass (sorry misha lmao) but i was heartbroken anyway cos there was too much deeply embedded history there (as it would be) i can't actually hate him tho damn it😂but sometimes it does backfire on him and it did lol 1 year later it's so quiet now on twitter :P most haven't stuck around and can't blame them really and i think they knew we wouldn't, he jokes about it but nobody's laughing. Note in future just... don't finish a show unless there's actual evidence it's a good ending lol Vikings and Shadow Hunters were the first two shows i didn't finish but turned out Shadow Hunters had a decent ending so i'm going to rewatch and finish it, i don't know what the future is of shows and stuff tho cos everything's been written about so i'm just like bracing for the possibility all that won't be around anymore anyway.

@@FlyingMonkies325 Noboby gives a shit about Cas.

He was just a punchline

Aye exactly. Like, Jack could have brought Dean back? He got Cas out of the empty so why didn't he just bring Dean back to life like he's been brought back a million times before? And it's the fact that Dean's survived Lucifer, GOD!! and yet died to a random vampire like... Come on :/

I think y’all are missing the point of his death. It wasn’t that he couldn’t come back. It’s that he didn’t want to. He accepted that his life on earth had ran its course and things would finally be okay if he were gone. Not to mention his brother whom he’d sacrifice anything for could actually have a life if he wasn’t there. He was ready to say goodbye.

@@RiPnShtUp I don't believe that. Dean saying 'tell me it will be okay' to Sam said to me that he was scared of dying knowing that he wouldn't come back this time. The episode before the last one is where it should have ended in my opinion. With Sam and Dean still hunting but also having a family, like Sam did in the last episode. The episode before last also literally showed everyone who'd been in the series. It was a nice heartwarming ending. I'm not saying I would have minded the ending being sad but it's just crap how it ended. Cas also accepted his fate of going to the empty but jack still saved him from there so it's like 🤷🤷 - Dean also said 'i didn't think it would be today' implying he wasn't ready to die then and there.

@@RiPnShtUp I respect your point of view on the ending though and am glad that you were satisfied with it

@@Demon-mt7zd Because what would Dean do if he came back to earth? He would just keep hunting, the show might as well not end at that point

I think the point was that without Chuck, their "plot armor" was gone. Think about how many times some accident like that should have happened, but never did.

@@sillyslicker1 think about the thousands of times they cut their palms to offer a blood sacrifice, yet they don't have any scars. They were low level super heros, that power ended with the show.

@@sillyslicker1 I get it. There is logical reasoning for it all. Doesn't mean it was a satisfying ending.

@@GeomancerHT Yep - their palms should have been seriously fucked up. They really were like a more realistic version of superheroes. I wasn't happy when I first watched the finale, but I now think that gives you an interesting lens to view the show through.

@@jonp6201 Yeah, I know 😕Looking back, I think it made sense for Dean, even if it's not the ending we hoped for. He just seemed more and more beat down with every season, drinking more by the episode, and you could just see how tired he was. I think Cass dying, seemingly for good, was the final straw.

I keep hoping to hear more about that. I know that I’ve heard a few people involved on the show say that they’d be interested in coming back + making a new couple of seasons. And the CW network is suffering without the show. 👀 it’s supernatural, they could always come back!

"Would love to see Supernatural come back for a few new seasons and right the wrong." To do what though? The show already had a problem of having to one up itself every season with the villain. Where do you go from the literal creator of the universe?

@@tsdobbi well the enemies always seemed to be about who was the most evil more than powerful

I thought the 2nd to last episode was the last one. Then I saw there was one more and I thought maybe it was one of those wrapup episodes where the actors talk. When I saw dean hit the nail I turned it off. The last episode is where jack walks off. To me. Not the greatest ending, but satisfactory.

it was the worst ending ever

I got the impression it was just them and they were just human and they were until they decided to put that in that it was down to some "mystical luck" that in itself is a terrible concept lol no... it was always them, Why else did we all root for them and love them? cos that's what we thought they stood for and what they were doing cos they wrote that way and soo... we went with that, saying it wasn't demeans and undermines their characters by even suggesting that cos it was John who trained them. Even if god was influencing their story he said himself they were also acting of their own accord most of the time... which was unusual cos it was like they were kinda immune to his powers compared to the other realities when Castiel showed up to his house while he was acting as a Prophet he said himself "This isn't supposed to happen", he just put things in here and there to make sure it ended up in the situations it did but the rest was all done by them cos he couldn't influence them. So to turn it around and say it wasn't was just the usual 360 shows tend to take these days. To me it will always be just them who did it all not down to "mystical luck" lol whenever i watch again in future i'll just watch up to season 10 and then the season when Jack was new which was season 12 then nothing after that cos it was always better story knowing it was all them that risked their human lives go out there on their own, they won't ruin it for me noop.

That's how realistic it is, he died as a hunter and with no luck, he was unlucky, he knew he was gonna die

@@darkmeme2289 Dean wasn’t a hunter, he was a hero. And hero’s deserve a hero’s end.

@@crobinson2624 yeh ur hero but in reality he's just a mere normal hunter like any normal hunter

Lol I like that, I gave up watching somewhere around season 10

I must of stopped watching before season 5 then cause I don’t remember that. The show ran for ages. So I guess they can be proud of that and so many people still love it. Personally I was put off when it tried to be something else with the god and devil stuff. They should of just kept it to hunting generic demons.

I stopped watching after they killed off Death (Julian Richings) and then replaced him with Billie. I could go on and on about how the original Death dominated every scene; depicting a stoic and enigmatic figure with immense power and knowledge of the universe. Then we had Billie whom came across as nothing but a disgruntled next door neighbour. It all went downhill for me then.

Best ending would have been, dean hunting and sam has a family. I feel dean is happy when he is hunting

theres no way to give them a real happy ending theres ALWAYS gonna be monsters to fight and how many times had Dean said hes NEVER GONNA STOP BE A HUNTER so hes set in how he dies Sam already quit once so yeah hed stop again if Dean died so this ending or them goin out Butch n Sundance style were the ONLY 2 endings for the show my opinion Butch n Sundance would have been way better...they got the happiest ending they possibly could have

You are one of the few though. As someone who's been there since the very beginning myself, literally everyone in my fandom group wanted them both to die to finally be at peace.

yeah i also think it was a little rushed cuz of covid but like dude till this day it gets me mad cuz it really could have ended so much better and left a cliff hanger obv anything can happen in supernatural but still horrible ending and it’s sad cuz that last season wasn’t that good

What I believe they did with the final episode is made them completely normal people. Before this, their life was controlled by Chuck so they obviously couldn't die (or at least couldn't die for good) but after Chuck's death no one was manipulating them which is why Dean had such a regular death by a rando vamp when he killed beings nowhere close to that. I didn't like the ending either, with the time speed after Dean's death. Like there were other characters as well like Jody, Claire etc

Yeah the original ending in heaven was supposed to be everyone at the Roadhouse, they had planned to bring back a ton of characters but Covid restrictions shut all that down. Would be nice if at some point they'd go back and film it so they could add it to the blu-rays or something.

@@bradmiles1984 would have loved to see Crowley at some point

@@monicaberdan8660 Yeah they could of had Jack bring him back from the empty.

@@bradmiles1984 They could of had crowley welcome sam into heaven, Him sacrificing himself to save them got him into heaven even tho he was a demon he made up for all his sin

@@QrazedGaming Would of been an interesting way to go. Could of had him at the spot with Bobby when Dean first got there. Would be funny to think of those two sharing drinks waiting for Dean to show up.

The last 10 seasons sucked. They needed to end on season 5

@@rmmm6725 I think it should have ended season 10

@@rmmm6725 Haha yep. The season 5 finale is one of the finest pieces of TV ever. To this day I can't believe they did a season of that senseless Leviathan trash.

I loved the ending. Very poetic I thought. But to each their own.

@@dakotamanns2644 I agree with you. It's also a great way to end "Lucifer".

and Amara who loves her brother was "okey with it" seems reasonable? lol no problem with dean expiring or Sam quitting hunting again like a little B! as we already knew Sam was like that, but chuck turning evil and they forgetting Amara who was as powerful as chuck would not stand by and see them [expire] chuck(making him mortal is the same thing as it is just a blink of an eye for her)....they just wanted to end the show and it seem easier than have another fight with amara(and pay the actress again)

Ye Supernatural first 5 seasons awesome. Seasons 6-7 were Ok everything else after that was bad same thing just different bad guy each season. And their constant depression was so hard to watch. Should of ended after season 5.

It did have a path even after season 5 the path was always to end it with them getting rid of Chuck/God it's just after season 10 they ran out of story and the last 5 years then lost direction, it should have ended at season 10 or 11 at least probs 11 to give them a bit more time to develop the ending, cut out the Metatron story (cos he meant nothing to the actual story), no season with angels at war with each other or falling and use those seasons to keep the story sort of gradually going towards the end and then went with the original plan of trapped Chuck and Dean dies somehow in the end and died an actual heroic death like he needed to. They blame Covid but nah the other actors were willing to go in but they wouldn't let them... there's a difference there and before that shows were ending terribly so the can keep saying that but we know it could have still been better when the actors were willing to still go in. I guess that's why most shows don't last this long and most start running out of story after season 4 or 5 Supernatural just had a good crew overall that they could come up with ideas for a bit longer, but it was always going to end underwhelming bad cos these bad endings started in like 2014/2015, i've probs gone through 10+ shows it's happened to now.

Couldnt agree more i hated it what a slap in the face to jenson and all the fans they beat god lucifer and endless amount of big badass badbuys for dean to be taken out by some lame vampire from seasons ago the last episodr made no sense amd was rushed they should have left it at episodr 19 it would have been perfect ending nobody will ever change my mind dean deserved better and i think jenson will always feel the same about that too

@@nataliepaterson294 yes! Totally agree with everything you said! Very well said. I hate that ending!!!!

@@patriciamayhew6321 i can see why jenson wasnt hapoy about it he may say he found a way to ubderstand it but i still think he hates it as much as us its clear by his face when he talks about it 15 years of him being dean for them to do that they should have ended it at episode 19 it was perfect

It did go on a bit too long i was just bored of the seasons after season 10 really, i didn't see how bored cos i was still on the bandwagon like everyone else but i see it now it was boring cos they ran out of story so they were just coming up with whatever they could, shows usually don't last 15 years and that's probs why they usually only went on for like 7 or 8 maybe back in the day, they were just milking it for whatever they could lol but i don't think they should do that again and if anyone does i'll probs jump off as soon as they do start to run out of story. I agree that Sam gave up that life but like other shows they just threw it all out and ended things the cheapest and quickest way, those masks the vamps wore were probs worth like $5 lol the same happened to others too, i'd love to know what the actors think about that but i don't think they can say.

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I discovered supernatural in 2021 And watched the whole series. It’s bigger than it’s ever been. Look for a comeback I think just my opinion

Yeah. After everything they fought and defeated, to get taken out like that was anticlimactic to me. Though my girlfriend pointed out he died saving some kids, so he went out how he would've wanted.

Same, for me season 5 was the ending

@@cernstormrunner7263 Well when they defeated every big bad season after season they had plot armor from Chuck, once that was gone they were just like any other hunter. How Dean died easily could of happened to any other hunter during a hunt.

That's my problem too. I was expecting Dean to die, but the way they did it was the most stupid way. I think Dabb hates Jensen or something 😅

In some way everyone loved Dean the most just like the characters all loved Dean cos of how everyone reacted to it lol which is why they should have done better and there's a difference between how he thought of himself and what he actually deserved and we can all see despite what he thought his heroic, brave, kind and selfless deeds and actions earned him more than a damn trophy at the end of his human life lol. But noop... it's happened to so many shows now these endings that i just know there's stuff going on there that they aren't talking about but nevertheless it's all spilling into the writing and the endings just feel spitefully written to ruin them, that's how i feel about it, to happen to every single show that's been on now it's so done on purpose How can it not be? *shrugs*

Right? I was waiting season after season to see him resolve at least some of his issues with how he saw him as being nothing more than canon foder. But at the end he died like one? What is the lesson I can get from that?

He ended up in heaven, with his mom and pop and eventually Sam *and baby*.... That was a happy ending!

I agree

Yeah you're right but it's a bit more realistic in the end. You get what you attract. And they still got their happy ending and the scene we wanted to have "the driving into the sunset with the characteristic music of the show". Also Dean death was also a way to get a tour in the new Heaven and meet back with Bobby

Exactly. I also didn’t like the ending for them in Season 5. Because Dean wouldn’t let Sammy go like that.

Dean did settle down once, but of course, it didn’t work out.

Characters change. Eventually, Sam accepted and appreciated the fact that he’s meant to live the hunting lifestyle.

For me it was the what but the how.

I agree that Dean never would have settled down, I think the way he died was lack luster. They could have had him go out in a blaze of glory, sacrificing himself for Sam one last time.

Nope that was years ago. At some point Sam became more accepting with the hunter lifestyle than Dean. In one episode he talks about it in season 6. And Dean actually liked settling down when Sam died. So i think if they made a twist and killed Sam and left Dean to live life we would’ve been more satisfied as watchers because it shows the show isn’t where it started and characters changed like any stories. But the writers completely ignored the development that is why everyone hated the finale.

Then, you're focused way too much on what on a small problem out of a greater whole. The tree in the forest if you will. For argument's sake, we can call his death petty but the meaning behind it is not. Dean represents the SPN show while Sam represents the fandom in this scene. It's hard for the latter to let the former go but this was bound to eventually happen one way or the other. Sam (fandom) doesn't want Dean (the show) to leave but Dean assures him that's he'll be fine and that although he is finished, he continues to live on in Sam's heart (similar to how this show and everything it has brought us as fans will continue to live on through us). Sam lives on and life still continues for him and he builds that life up, which is how we as the fandom should move forward. Thus, we will carry on. At least, that's how I perceived it, which is why I feel happy and grateful for this epilogue of a finale. As for Castiel being a main character....he wasn't exactly the main character. He's an extremely important character, but the focus of this entire story was always that of the two brothers and to have the series end on them was perfectly fitting.

@@TotallyAwesome420 You have some interesting points. The symbolism of the fandom and the show with Sam and Dean definitely fits. But should story telling be based on symbolism alone. Can you justify ruining Dean’s character arc. Going from yearning for death even accepting it, to wanting to live. Is undoing his and Sam’s character development worth symbolism. Depends I guess on your perspective. Of course, it’s about entertainment and the question of story. For me, the final episode had a lot of flaws in its story telling. (Not to mention sloppy production: wig and same song twice. I mean come on…) Killing Dean with a nail is not entertaining nor satisfying. A matter of personal opinion for sure. On one hand, it could be a good ending, if it was for one of the earlier seasons, the problem for me is that it wasn’t. This was a ending for a 15 season show with numerous beloved characters, so to write a shakespearian tragedy like ending feels lazy. The dark moody tone shifted with time, and so did the characters. Endings are hard for sure, every show ending feels like a lost friend, but having a confession and a dumb death just miss the mark for me. As for Castiel, it wasn’t that the final episode wasn’t about him. Because yes, the boys are the main storyline. However, to have Castiel have his big moment with no response is unsatisfying. Dean goes from begging god to bring back Cas, to not even missing him. That leaves Dean’s arc incomplete. Killing a character off isn’t necessarily a bad ending. Iron man’s death is the perfect tie to his character arc. From selfish to selfless. On the other hand, there is a reason Captain American isn’t killed, because for his character arc to be completed, he has to give up war for the woman he loves. (Very oversimplified arc descriptions) As for the boys, the character arcs are not completed with the final episode. There is no growth, only an ending, which could have happened season 1 episode two, without any character development.

The finale almost killed me. Supernatural saved my life after my brother's sudden death and there are 326 episodes of "go down swinging" and "always keep fighting" only for it to end with, "Give up and die. Nothing is worth living for." It took me almost a year to get out of the suicidal despair that plunged me into. It felt like a huge betrayal, especially when they repeatedly promised not to end it in defeat and then picked the ultimate defeat of despair and suicide (assisted by Sam, who had once said, "I'm not gonna let you die, period.") I still fall into despair when I see screen shots from the finale. On my worst days, I used to tell myself, "Dean Winchester wouldn't give up." Then he did. For no reason.

@@helenwood8482 That sounds rough. I Hope you are doing better now. I have totally been there, heck still am I guess. Hope you know that Jensen hates the finale too, because it doesn’t fall in line with Dean as a character. So you just know that Dean would never give up and neither should you. Always keep fighting, because someone in the world needs you, someone in this world could be impacted by you, and because there is hope for better days ahead. You are loved, important and of value, don’t forget that. You are also not alone, even when it feels like it. These videos are the true ending of supernatural for me, where the boys get married and have kids. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--g4GvWCbl_8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2vu46Oc51-I.html Hope it helps, just scrub the original out of your head. Honestly you couldn’t pay me to watch the finale again,(except maybe the beginning with the dog.)

_"the loose end of Castiel’s confession"_ Lol loose end. That's a gay.

Dean knew he'd die in a hunt. Meanwhile Sam was the one trying to lead a normal life; Dean gets him from college in episode 1

@@5Demona5 I agree sam was living a normal life before and after he could stop hunting but Dean never really could so in the end sam grew to be an old man and with this being done in a pandemic Sam dies in a hospital bed in his home an old man pretty much on life support and I think his son being there for him at the end was beautiful so let me give you my perspective from my personal view I had a friend who was a marine who passed away he loved dean's character he would say your castel I'm Dean and my smart brother (my other best friend /his real bio bro was Sam so when Dean Cass and Sam died and pretty much reunited in heaven I mean Bobby does say Cass is back im sure he would check in at some point. I cried. At the end sorry about my rant btw hope you are having an amazing day

@@ronniecannon8283 That's sweet 💙

I completely agree, my problem with the ending isn't actually about Dean. It's the lack of detail or personalness with Sams ending. None of their friends are even mentioned, he goes on living alone when he should have a support system. If God brought everyone back, then where are all the people who died in the final confrontation? The lack of detail and care in Sams life is my biggest issue with the finale.

@@danielfaubert1903 All of their friends are mentioned, they're all in heaven, the ending with Sam was super rushed, Deans was basically perfect

I think the same, also with what Jenses said about Sam dying as the martyr. Dean wouldn’t allow Sam to be that sacrificial lamb for the world, while Sam would totally would’ve respected Dean’s decision to finally pass on. At least that’s how I think how they would’ve reacted to the alternative ending that Jensen said in the clip.

Season 16 idea, Jack actually decides years later to make dean and sam angels , Then they both end up like Castiels role and meet a new hunter (just one) like Garths son or something and they go on hunts with the new hunter but they have castiels powers they can heal and fly (teleport) but because its Garths son hes also a werewolf but hes a hunter and can use his werewolf senses like super strength, Smell etc to help him hunt monsters

It was intentionally anticlimactic, which many fail to understand.

Brilliant ending!

That is the perfect ending! ( The last one) Someone hire this guy

Exactly, I thought of that episode as well when he died.

15 years and it ends like this it was fine the way it ended no big shabang, But when you look at how the other big characters died bobby, jo, ellen they could of been surrounded by like 100 demons attacking them, And dean being dean saying something like Hey butch lets do this, And sam saying why do you get to be Sundance lol

Then dean says run sammy while he sacrifices himself to save his brother, Sam survives the attack but dean gets stabbed kinda like Jon Snows death

@@QrazedGaming yeah I see. Could have been a WAAAAAY more epic send off. Totally agree. Their ending was touching and sad. They could a done that but also hail if bullets as was proper for some legends.

We can all be honest . It was weak. Not bringing in other characters like Ellen to deans “funeral” and lack of rest of old cast in heaven was weak. Covid is the common excuse but that just doesn’t hold water. It would have cost more to film them and follow guidelines but it could have been done. I think the network should have taken the hit given it’s their longest running show ever. Just lame it was only production stuff that screwed it