This video is confusing to people who are not from Israel/Palestine. It doesn't explain well the differences of status. As an Israeli and Palestinian myself (I'm what is called israeli-Arab), let me try to explain. First of all, there are the two main entities, Israel and the Palestinian Territories (which includes the "West Bank" and Gaza) - the PT is not yet a recognized state by the United Nations (but it is recognised by UNESCO I believe). People who live in Israel have Israeli citizenship, including Jewish and non-Jewish minorites, like the Arab minority which constitutes 20% of the population of Israel. These Arabs are in fact Palestinians by blood but they have Israeli citizenship and they are 100% equal with Jewish citizens in front of the Israeli law (of course there is still discrimination against them and some right wing politicians try to make legislations in recent years to downgrade them yet they are citizens with full rights and voting rights). People who live in Palestine have Palestinian citizenship. So far it's clear. People who live in Jerusalem are special case because Jerusalem itself geographically sits on the line between Israel and the Palestinian Territories. The border between the two actually run in the city and cuts it in two: East Jerusalem and West Jerusalem (like East and West Berlin). West Jerusalem is on the Israeli side and East Jerusalem is in the Palestinian side. And the Old City of Jerusalem (where the Temple Mount, al-Aqsa mosque and the Via Dolorosa, which is the road that Jesus last walked carrying the cross of his crucifixion, are all within the Old City) literally sits on this stitch between East and West Jerusalem, right in the middle, like it's the heart of it all, and it can be accessed from both East and West. The problem with the status of the Palestinians living in East Jerusalem is that while they belong to the Palestinian authority geographically, Israel is actually claiming ALL of Jerusalem both East and West to be under its jurisdiction. And there's actually one Israeli municipality for the city - an Israeli one. So, while the Palestinians living in East Jerusalem are citizens of the not-yet-a-recogized Palestinian state, they are at the same time considered *residents* of the city of Jerusalem which by Israeli law is an Israeli city. So they have voting rights in Palestine but they get their garbage collected by Israel (the Jerusalem municipality). It's a strange situation therefore. That's why they have a special kind of ID, sometimes referred to as "Blue ID", which is different from the regular Israeli ID, which Israeli citizens (Jews and non-Jews) have. The neighbourhood of Beit Safafa the last lady mentioned is actually a neighborhood in Jerusalem that has mostly only Arabs living in it, but the border between Israel and Palestine runs through it cutting it also to East and west. So the Arab residents of this neighbourhood are divided: those living in the west side are Israeli in every sense of the term (just like Arabs living in Jaffa, Haifa or elsewhere within Israel) while the Arabs living in East Beit Safafa have a "Blue ID". Although both sides are Palestinian by hertiage they have different status even though they live door to door. Israel allows East Jeruslaem Palestinians to apply for an Israeli citizenship, but they need to declare their 'obedience' to the state and to give up all previous nationalities. From the 360K East Jeruslaem Arab residents 15K chose to get the Israeli citizenship - about 4%. Having said that, I personally heard stories that Israel can make it challenging to obtain the citizenship for them and even refuse it. So it's not a straightforward process. Hope this explains a little bit more and gives a framework for the video.
Thank you for this clear explanation. I was a bit confused on whether these ppl interviewed were Israeli Arabs or Palestinians. Your explanation cleared the confusion for me 👍🏻
@@tunis.489 mate... The Arab nations kicked Jewish people out of their countries in the 1970s.. I'm pretty sure the Jews there don't have equal rights. I'm not even a Jew nor am I Israeli, but I can see how unfair these statements are towards Israel. I'm not saying everything Israel does is right, but maybe don't make such biased statements and be more objective?
@@tunis.489 I can name pretty much all the countries in the middle east. Under Islamic law people that don't practice other religions are considered dhimmis which is how the Jews where treated in the middle east. They were never treated as equals. Apartheid means treating citizens differently. If Israel annexed the West Bank and Gaza and treated the Palestinian there like now, then it will be apartheid. The West Bank is in a weird pending a peaceful solution state and considered a disputed territory under military control. Its not considered to be part of Israel. Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza have their own government. While unfortunately there is too much racism, Israel does have freedom of religion and the Israeli Arabs/Palestinians have the same rights.
All I understand is, the is just one country across the middle east where Jew/Gentile/Arab can live and worship side by side and even run for parliament/political office no matter what religion they follow. Israel.
@sundusalkindi3224 yes well Israelis didn't still anything, that mind set is what got them where they are. all the terror is always directed at innocent Israelis
Its not a passport its an id and along with that you can get a passport in anycase you cant expect to benefit from a country you dont pay taxes too i understand that it feels icky but its just how countries work
Real persians when they realize close to all israelis hate iranians and consider iranian as a slur or derogatory term 💀😹 this one sided dickeating is so funny
It’s important to mention that saying they would take an Israeli citizenship on camera could potentially be dangerous or at the very least affect their personal life. So the answers are probably heavily skewed just because of the fact that they are on camera and don’t know who will see it.
Amazing the wishful comments by Israelis here thinking that the only reason Palestinians stick to their identity or roots is because they are scared to give their honest opinion. This is a racist patronizing opinion. Palestinians genuinely love their identity and culture. In fact that's why the more Israel treats them badly the more you see them resist and stick to their beliefs.
@@chosenepicurus 😂😂😂 improving one's life by living in a state were Jews are first class citizens and non Jews are treated as second class citizens??!! That's your idea of life improvement!? Get a life
So, if what they want is citizenship in a country that aligns with their Palestinian Arab identity, then what's missing is the obvious follow-up question to a "no" answer. If you don't want Israeli citizenship, then what do you want? From polls, we know that the "two state solution" is unpopular among Palestinians (and Israelis), so for most, the answer probably wouldn't be "citizenship in the Arab State of Palestine, alongside the Jewish State of Israel." Does this mean the answer would be, "citizenship in the Arab State of Palestine, after the Jewish State of Israel is overthrown and replaced by it?" How else would they become citizens of a country with a Palestinian Arab identity, without the two-state solution that they don't want?
@@louisavondart9178 and there was no Israeli state until 1948 before that all the Jews who lived in Palestine had a Palestinian passport . Give me one reason why Israel have claim to the land over the Palestinians that been living there for 10s of generations without using history nor religion.
and all the jews had palestiain passport, so in a way you answered your question, yes they would take it as they already done so prior to 1948. just keep in mind that palestine prior to 1948 was not a country just a name giving to the strip of land the same way you will name a moutain or a river around 1920s or so. @@mustafaibrahim5048
and to answer your question why israel should claim the land as their own is simple. the people who owned the land divided it and gave it to them. same way egypt jordan and so many other countries in the middle east became a country around 1940s-50s@@mustafaibrahim5048
" We are the only people on earth asked to guarantee the security of our occupier ...... While Israel is the only country that calls for defense from it's victims." Hanan Ashrawi
Israel de-facto controls the area; therefore, they should be granted citizenship immediately -- as opposed to being left stateless and at the whims of the Israeli government -- which is the current situation.
Well when Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza about a quarter of the civilians were made citizens. I’m pretty sure the rest refused the offer as you can see in the video
@@goldenmosquito4093 Sorry, but that just didn't happen. The people in Gaza and the West Bank were and still are citizens of the PA. 1/4 of them do NOT have Israeli citizenship - unless you're counting Arabs living inside Israel (in Umm al-Fahm, for example)? The only people living in the West Bank with Israeli citizenship are the settlers and the ~870 Samaritans. The only people living in Gaza with Israeli citizenship are a few Arab wives of Gazan men.
This is weird. It’s like saying a Palestinian wouldn’t accept Canadian citizenship when living in Canada because they would not be Palestinian anymore.
No. It's like saying a Belgian wouldn't accept a Nazi Germany citizenship when living in Nazi-controlled Belgium becuase they would not be Belgian anymore. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Belgium_during_World_War_II What's weird is you presumably not understanding something so simple. Hopefully you were not intentionally giving false allegories instead.
@@zarealkula Theryre in Israel though and it’s controlled by the Israelis, not some foreign invader. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. The entire mandate for Palestine was under Ottoman control for centuries then British control. The British promised to leave and give some land to the Jews and some land to the Arabs. It was not the Arabs decision to demand death to Jews and all the land for themselves. So my statement stands.
@@polarbear4612 They *are* a foreign invader, who have established settlements and call this group of settlements 'Israel'. Seriously, if you can't even admit that, then what can I say - might I remind you Netanyahu is polish?
@zarealkula Netenyahu's family is of Jewish ancestry and didn't mix with ethnic Poles as Jews are endogamous; it wasn't their ancestral homeland - with your logic most Palestinian refugees cannot "come back", because most were born outside what was Mandatory Palestine anyway.
Людмилагузев8117 Я предполагаю, что вы русский и, возможно, живете в Израиле. Вы не знаете его историю. Эта страна, Палестина бывшего британского мандата, была передана сионистским еврейским эмигрантам, чтобы они могли создать здесь «еврейское государство», нарушив права арабского населения, жившего здесь веками. Они имели право иметь свое собственное государство на всей территории Палестины, которая была их землей, но у них не было армии, потому что Британия не позволяла этого и вместо этого позволяла сионистским ополчениям вооружаться, и таким образом родилось Государство Израиль: отобрать у палестинцев свою страну силой. Вот почему армия так важна в Израиле.
@@burnin8orable State of Israel considers Jerusalem to be its capital. Consequently, all the residents there whether Jews or Arabs deserve Israeli citizenship. Yes many Palestinians are too stubborn to accept a Jewish state. They don’t understand that Israeli citizenship will enable them to travel worldwide more easily
How many Israeli Arabs have given up their citizenship. None. That's all you need to know. Most of these people say no now because they are allowed to live in Jerusalem and have many of the rights of Israeli citizens even without full citizenship.
Many but not all in a so a called "democracy", right? Tell me, what "democracy" doesn't allow give citizenship to its native inhabitants and prevents an entire religious group from voting for national elections? Israel, the terrorist and apartheid state.
The chance of peace between the Palestinians and the jews is equal to the chance that al-qaaida or ISIS will have peace with the US. There wouldn't be peace, Because it's a religious conflict. Muslims have a problem that the land of Israel is owned by people from another religion, Especially jews. If Israelis were muslims, there wouldn't be any problem.
Revelation 2;9 and 3;9. God cannot be deceived. Fulfilment of Prophecy is playing out, right before our eyes. Ezekiel 38~39...is Coming to Israel. Repent, while you still have time.
Ethnically, the Jordanian is very close to the Arabian Peninsula, but the Pale..stinian is not. I am Pale..stinian and I have only 16% of my D.N.A from the Arabian Peninsula.
@@TheRanaro We have the same Arabic language, but with different dialects, and the same religions, Islam and Christianity, but we do not have the same D.N.A. Most Jordanians are of Saudi origin, because Jordan was in the past part of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and then Jordan gained independence from Saudi Arabia, but the Pales..tinians are not, with the exception of the Negev Bedouins only. Pales..tinians have much less Arab DNA.
@@deemaabobaker5894 The dialects are the same. I'll give you the accents being different as accents do vary from Ramallah to Jaljullyah or even Jenin. Perhaps in your case it might be, but in an overall generalization, which is permissible in genetics, Jordanians and Palestinians are indeed interchangable. 80% of those living in Jordan identify as and are Palestinian. The Hashemites, for example are a clan just like the Cohen clans in amongst Jews and the Levi clans. Two different lineages within one tribe.
@@TheRanarosome are jordanians, with relatives there. Some are syrians, some are egyptians, algerians, bosnians, chechens even. Mostly migrated during british and othman empires into current day israel
Palestine free 😂😂 Like freedom in Iran ? No I prefer freedom in Afghanistan! In Syria ? Libya ? Irak ? Algeria? Tunisia? Syria?( 700 00 deads last year no one demonstration …..)
Something called oppression, lack of quality of life, the need to feed their kids and families. But I do agree, I'll take the life of oppression that comes with living in Palestine any day over this pile of garbage.
I have an Arab Muslim friend from Jerusalem who recently became an Israeli citizenship. Before that when I asked him if he was Palestinian he was insulted. He's proud of being Israeli. There are many who want Israeli citizenship but they are afraid of the backlash by other Muslims.
Exactly because of such people like you. Israelis dont break in any mosques. There is a security and Hamas and their friends come and make a mess, film it, and get arrested. @@bisoahmad9067
The holy mosque you built on top of our ancient ruins where we are forbidden from even going. Stop with thr religious bullshit already. Religion is poison in this situation
@@bisoahmad9067 There is a repeating issue mostly in Ramadan in the mosque. There are certain Palestinian elements that are causing problems there, the Israeli security forces intervene to stop it so people can come and pray after. But all that you hear about in the Palestinian media is that the occupation or the Jews broke into the mosque... never the reason why they did it. Similar to the media reporting that the occupation killed a 12-years old boy and not saying that he aimed fireworks at people and covered his face. Or that the occupation killed 2 young Palestinians near a checkpoint and wounded a 3rd but didn't mentioned that those young Palestinians opened fire on people stuck in traffic near the checkpoint. There is an ongoing campaign that incite Palestinians against Jews that started before Modern Israel was established. Like claiming that we want to destroy Al-Aqsa, when all we want is to dig in another part to unearth some of our history, (which is turning up to be a beautiful site btw). And are posing no risk to Al-Aqsa.
Why can they lose residency if they leave Jerusalem? Because of visa? She's not a tourist though is she? And Jerusalem is not a bed and breakfast either so why would she lose residency? Explain please!
Tell me you have a limited understanding of world politics without telling me you have a limited understanding of geopolitics. Palestine was never a sovereign nation, even prior to 1947. It was a territory, a gray area occupied by the British after WW1. The religious context is relevant but unimportant to the legitimacy of Israel’s existence. Israel was bought/purchased legally because of the spoils of war, and the Jewish right of self determination after WW2.
If you became Chinese, you would LOSE a lot of rights, but in this case, you would gain some… you would actually be able to vote, while there are no elections in Palestine
@CCrinklebottom 1.The current definition of a country is fairly modern to the point where most of the existing countries wouldn't have been considered countries a 100 years ago, so it's unfair to use it as a standard 2.To begin with it shouldn't be used as a standard. Your nation not being recognised as an eligible country by foreigners doesn't give the right for a bunch of other foreigners to come and kick you out of your home in which you family has been living for generations 3.the amount of palestinian land that the zionists bought legally didn't surpass 6% at best.
@@YTFreePalestine I mean that they're not so free to say they want Israeli citizenship. As one lady said, it's not accepted in their society. So even if they want it, they can't admit it.
I have a friend who best friend is palestinian He’s across the ocean in Australia. Aparently he would never talk politics like ever because if anyone in his community finds out he could be murdered.
@@scottymackay1801Ofc it not accepted.. Its treason . Someone occupying you , you take his Passport so you can TRAVEL freely? Yes passport so they can Live as 1st Tier citizen.. Thats what apartheid does , Segregation/checkpoints/humiliation.. people with weak spirit would do it. thats 0.01% good luck.
I can understand some animosity, but with how long this conflict has been going on and the failed attempts at forming a Palestinian state that isn't being usurped by terror squads I would say just go for the passport, at least then you can mobilise a democratic change through voting and political movement. There are tens of thousands of Israeli Jews who are sick of the wars fought by IDF and Netanyahu as well who would love to reach a two state solution. But honestly, with the atrocities that started on Oct 7, I think that the Hamas pogrom sentiments have already been passed down the next generation. Just like people not wanting to acknowledge the Israel state. I mean, dude, that's like not accepting the division of the Soviet Union. It's done. Of course, before Oct 7 the middle eastern powers were kind of heading in that direction of accepting diplomacy with Israel, which is why Hamas had to throw burning oil on it. And they were voted into power in Gaza (only by 37% though).
Corey, it's very brave of you to ask this question. I worked with many Jerusalem Palestinians for 4 years and this was a very difficult topic. The only ones who clearly explained why they didn't want Israeli citizenship were those who said they didn't want to give up Jordanian citizenship because they had close family in Jordan, and once you give up your Jordanian passport, you're barred from the country for 5 years. The others did not want to talk about their reasons. I worked with Greeks, Armenians, Catholics, and Muslims (as well as Jews).
@marilepine1 Because Jerusalem is gained by Israel through the same way Jordan so it's double standard to say Israel can't do it when Jordan did...anyway Jerusalem is the clearest instance of expulsion of the Jewish population by the Romans so I can't say why they can't reclaim it if we label it as a "Jewish revolution".
@@zjzr08 If your adult children lived 90 kms away, would you agree to not see them for 5 years just so you could change passports and vote in an election that you feel doesn't represent you anyway?
@ElisaAvigayil Can't they bring their kid too in this scenario? Also they aren't obligated to vote (although it would help if they do in adding a voice that represents them) but it will give them the rights of being a citizen living in Israel. P.S. Living away for a bit long time isn't new for us Filipinos, especially if the parents work abroad. If a sacrifice is needed for long term prosperity (as their kids also become Israeli citizens) then I say it would be worth it.
Maybe you can ask how many Palestinians would support an own democratic country for Palestinians with many parties, opposition, freedom of press? It is important for the future of this region. Only when Israel and Palestine become two democratic countries, they can have peace for ever, like France and Germany now. France and Germany were enemies in the past, but after they become democratic countries, they become friends too and work together in peace, even in case of difference or conflict.
yes clearly an Islamic extremist country would be completely open to a free democracy. I'm sure they will embrace the lgbtq community and atheists and all other kinds of people with open arms!
Problem is they don't want a democratic country, they want a country of Sharia-law which means wiping out the Jews. Look at what happened Oct 7th doesn't look like democracy will be their because of thier extremist religious beliefs dictate thier laws.
I wish, but democracy doesn't work in muslim countries. I mean, democracy has problems everywhere because of populism, promesing whatever in order to get into power. But the thing with muslim countries is that the populism instead of using welfare as a false promise they use islam as the main propaganda tool. And that always turns into islamist regimes. The only stable muslim countries that are getting more progressive and less religious are the ones that never had elections.
And that's why there won't be peace in the area. They colonized the area, built mosques on top of the Jewish temples and now try to claim they were there first. Only dumb people believe it but there are enough of those when you repeat the lie often enough
yes and do Israel recognize Palestine as a state? no, not only that it occupies them, if they leave their city for more than few years they will not be allowed to return, what a nice country.
retarded argument, so every country that was ever colonized for a period of time should never have a right to a state because they let themselves be colonised once. yeah this didn't do what you thought it would.
There was a ma..jor rev..olt against Ottoman rule due to persecution, forced conscription in the World Wa..r, speaking the Turkish language, and the abolition of the Arabic language.
Corey - love your videos, and you’re making a really important contribution. But please - for me - you’ve got to stop interrupting and talking over your interview subjects. Please - just let them talk! Half the time I think that you’re asking for clarification that you would not have needed if you had just let them finish what they were saying. TIA.
Unpopular opinion but I actually appreciate that he does this. I think it's easy for people to go off on tangents when they're being asked about issues that deal with a lot of emotion, and I think his interrupting keeps them focused on the one specific thing he's asking about. It's like when I'm having an argument with someone that starts over something really small, and all of all sudden we're yelling at each other about these really huge topics that don't really have anything to do with what the argument started from. That being said, I think Corey is sometimes so unemotional that he can't see that the person is actually answering the question, just not in the way that he expects them to. I'm thinking of one where he was asking a Palestinian lady about how she would explain the reasons for the conflict to a ten year old, and she was responding that she wouldn't explain the reasons to them, she would just be helping them through all the difficulties it causes. Went right over Corey's head.
Corey, just ask the question and move on. This is really cringe, trying to tell people what to do with their lives to fit your perceptions of what would be good for them.
Two state solution, Jordan and Israel. Go to Jordan. They have a choice. If I don’t like my country I leave. Allah maak. IMHO Israel should give them residency. If they don’t accept it, perfect Israel should give them monetary compensation for them and the receiving country. Possibility to go to Jordan or any other Arab nation that subscribe to the plan.
So they want all the rights of citizenship but don't want citizenship because of ideological reasons that's an ignorant point of view, the last lady is right.
It's not ignorant, they didn't choose to live in Israel, it was imposed upon them when Israel annexed East Jerusalem. It's a completely valid form of protest to refuse citizenship considering the annexation is illegal. Meanwhile, unless Israel wants to impose a real apartheid system, they have to give human rights to the people living in its borders.
@@MrBenenebthey chose to be in Israel… they didn’t cry under Jordan, they could have stayed in Jordan if they wanted. They decided to continue to be colonizers and cry about not succeeding to get the Jews under them again.
Corey, something ive noticed in your videos is that often times, women (on both sides) hold far more extreme views than i would expect. This always takes me by surprise because i guess my prejudices are that women are less confrontational, more nurturing, and overall more sensitive. But i have this theory now that perhaps women can afford to have these views because intrinsically, it would not be up to them to enforce their views. Whereas maybe men think about conflict a little more thoroughly because they would be the ones doing the fighting or confronting. Maybe this is totally fringe but i wamder if theres literature on this.
@caduceus329 I'm not sure you're distinguishing between citizenship and culture. There are many examples of thriving cultures within non native borders. One way to think about it is borders are political. Culture is carried by the people. In the case of the occupied west Bank, muslims are allowed to express their culture freely (insofar as it doesnt threaten jewish life). The language, religion, food are respected. Yes there is bigotry. But as a whole, israel does not interfere with muslim arab culture.
Interesting. It has to do with the fact that most of the "warlike" women in the video are very religious (as indicated by their way of dressing) and thus, consider hating Israel as an integral part of the Islamic dogma and jihad. They are also considered in Palestinian society as the ultimate weapon through their uterus, whose role is to raise and indoctrinate the future martyrs
mindset? why does Israel even have the right to force Palestinians to get citizens to have the right to stay in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is part of Palestine so this idea of getting a better life if they get an Israel passport is the essence of the problem. Why is israel even making it difficult for Palestinians in the first place? The mindset of the Zionists by making Palestinians' life difficult to take on Israel citizenship is why there has been over 70 years of no peace. The zionist state is racist, land stealing, genocidal maniacs that will not stop until they steal Palestine and leave Palestinians with no land. Just look at the West Bank and how settlers continue to burn houses and steal land.
@@hanyadem8469 Maybe you want it to stop being occupied?.. and just be a regular citizen with full rights? I swear.. this Palestinian ultra nationalism would be the death of them. Learn to relax a bit.. the world is much bigger than this tiny strip of land.
@@jimbean7652 Nah man, I'm just a lonely atheist guy from "Judia and Samaria," who wants to have a normal, ordinary life. I want to be able to visit Nazareth" by my car without someone stopping me, I want to buy a small apartment on the Mediterranean beach with sea view. I want to travel easily and be able to use the airport.
I'm glad that you found some that do want Israeli citizenship. One thing that some people seem to have forgotten is that 5% of East Jerusalem Palestinians are actually already Israeli citizens. In 2013, Palestinian president Abbas said "in the final solution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli, civilian or soldier, on our land", he doesn't seem to realize that that essentially means expelling some of his own people from his claimed capital.
@@moezrr8046 Oh, you're the kind of person who thinks he has the right to call other people traitors because they think differently than him? I suppose you support Hamas, then?
Can you please shut it, im an arab from Jerusalem and much of the taxes i pay to the government go towards haredim who dont want to work, go to military or contribute to society whatsoever and im not complaining like you about some people who were put to poverty by systematic oppression and lack of opportunities by the government
aggressive as usual. And did you serve at any national service of any kind? or you are just taking and complaining ? (blaming others that also take) @@muzz444
If I take Israeli Citizenship as an Arab I doubt I will be allowed to buy a gun in a GUN SHOP and I doubt I would be allowed to have the plates of my car be Yellow which is the color of the plate of the cars of Jews while for Arabs is White... I also doubt that I would be permitted to have a sandwich at the restaurant in KING DAVID HOTEL in Jerusalem where I was refused service and asked to leave with my Arab friends I was inviting...
LOL Can you imagine what could be accomplished if the Soviets and Americans would be living on the same soil? Would you, out of your right mind have another nation invade and steal your home and country. Then make you obligated to claim a citizenship or else you are classed as a 2nd class citizen with fewer rights and much worst living conditions. Crazy how america has their foot in every country and causing chaos then feeding your ears with propaganda about who you should fear and who is good or bad when America has been funding genocide for ages.
Israel wants peace and offered it many times. The Palestinians rejected peace every time and started intifada. You can't have a peace partner that expects all or nothing. it's a zero some game
@@moshebirnbaum5686 totally agree - the main problem has always been Jihadist Islam - this evil twisted version of Islam. Until the world tackles this head on it does look like the Israelis will have to do it instead.
This video is confusing to people who are not from Israel/Palestine. It doesn't explain well the differences of status. As an Israeli and Palestinian myself (I'm what is called israeli-Arab), let me try to explain. First of all, there are the two main entities, Israel and the Palestinian Territories (which includes the "West Bank" and Gaza) - the PT is not yet a recognized state by the United Nations (but it is recognised by UNESCO I believe). People who live in Israel have Israeli citizenship, including Jewish and non-Jewish minorites, like the Arab minority which constitutes 20% of the population of Israel. These Arabs are in fact Palestinians by blood but they have Israeli citizenship and they are 100% equal with Jewish citizens in front of the Israeli law (of course there is still discrimination against them and some right wing politicians try to make legislations in recent years to downgrade them yet they are citizens with full rights and voting rights). People who live in Palestine have Palestinian citizenship. So far it's clear. People who live in Jerusalem are special case because Jerusalem itself geographically sits on the line between Israel and the Palestinian Territories. The border between the two actually run in the city and cuts it in two: East Jerusalem and West Jerusalem (like East and West Berlin). West Jerusalem is on the Israeli side and East Jerusalem is in the Palestinian side. And the Old City of Jerusalem (where the Temple Mount, al-Aqsa mosque and the Via Dolorosa, which is the road that Jesus last walked carrying the cross of his crucifixion, are all within the Old City) literally sits on this stitch between East and West Jerusalem, right in the middle, like it's the heart of it all, and it can be accessed from both East and West. The problem with the status of the Palestinians living in East Jerusalem is that while they belong to the Palestinian authority geographically, Israel is actually claiming ALL of Jerusalem both East and West to be under its jurisdiction. And there's actually one Israeli municipality for the city - an Israeli one. So, while the Palestinians living in East Jerusalem are citizens of the not-yet-a-recogized Palestinian state, they are at the same time considered residents of the city of Jerusalem which by Israeli law is an Israeli city. So they have voting rights in Palestine but they get their garbage collected by Israel (the Jerusalem municipality). It's a strange situation therefore. That's why they have a special kind of ID, sometimes referred to as "Blue ID", which is different from the regular Israeli ID, which Israeli citizens (Jews and non-Jews) have. The neighbourhood of Beit Safafa the last lady mentioned is actually a neighborhood in Jerusalem that has mostly only Arabs living in it, but the border between Israel and Palestine runs through it cutting it also to East and west. So the Arab residents of this neighbourhood are divided: those living in the west side are Israeli in every sense of the term (just like Arabs living in Jaffa, Haifa or elsewhere within Israel) while the Arabs living in East Beit Safafa have a "Blue ID". Although both sides are Palestinian by hertiage they have different status even though they live door to door. Israel allows East Jeruslaem Palestinians to apply for an Israeli citizenship, but they need to declare their 'obedience' to the state and to give up all previous nationalities. From the 360K East Jeruslaem Arab residents 15K chose to get the Israeli citizenship - about 4%. Hope this explains a little bit more and gives a framework for the video.@@D-E-S_8559
@@AmalJaber38it is the subtext to which none spoke with words, but all spoke with tone and look in their eyes. They say it with what they don't say, with how they talk around it but never address.
I provided statistics in one of my comments under this video and I will provide them again. Quote from a Haaretz article: "Over the past 20 years, only 38 percent of the 16,573 applications have been approved".
so they can vote and eletct whoever they want if they apply for israeli citizenship but the majority dont want to and then they say its aprethied cause they are not represented... oh the iroiny.
Now for the sake of transparency i will state i back 🇮🇱 Israel 100%... But to be fair to the ArBs this is a very personal question concerning their identity! Now if they feel loyal to Palestine,then that's their choice!. .But the comparison with the U.S Green Card is interesting,bevause u can live&work in the U.S,but ur prevented from partaking in the National process and debate!
"What if they appologized?" - obvious confusion. What kind of question is that? LIke if the sionists ever wanted palestinians become citizens so bad, they would appologize for all the sh°° they brought...
But here are totally different opinions in this video... So how it is dangerous for these people to answer or how is this question incorrect? 🤨 The comparison didn´t work... There is something wrong with your logic.
@@minskdhaka Why wouldn’t I?? We lived under British rule before 1947. I am assuring you that if the British government offered us citizenship and promised to treat us the same way as British citizens living in UK then we would happily accept it and wouldn’t even fight against the British rule. Let me think myself as a Palestinian for a while. After accepting Israeli citizenship, I will get the same rights as other Israeli citizens. I can freely travel to other countries by using an Israeli passport. When Jordan took control of West Bank & East Jerusalem, all of us accepted Jordanian citizenship. Then why wouldn’t we accept Israeli citizenship?? Yes if I already decided from the beginning that there can’t be a country of the Jews then nobody can convince me in accepting Israeli citizenship. However, I am not biased against Israel
@@pathikritchoudhury6611 I agree. It's strange that British, Jordanian, or Egyptian citizenships would have been acceptable by Palestinians, but not Israeli.
@@khaledkhaled4299WRONG. The Arab population in the region was a mere 400,000 in 1918 when the British mandate was announced. THOSE PEOPLE and only those people are Palestinian. By the time Israeli statehood was announced there were 1.2 Arabs living in the region making 2/3rds of the "Palestinians" economic migrants who FOLLOWED the Jewish people in to the region.
G-d gave a portion of the Holy Land to the children of Ishmael. Based on Zohar Shemot 32A ------ [R. Hiyya then says] Woe is to the time that Ishmael was born into the world and was circumcised. What did G‑d do [to appease Ishmael]? He distanced the children of Ishmael from supernal cleaving and gave them [only] a portion below in the Holy Land on account of their circumcision. And in the future, the children of Ishmael are destined to rule over the Holy Land for a long time when it is empty from anything, like their circumcision which is empty and imperfect. And they will prevent the children of Israel from returning to their place until the reward for the merit of the children of Ishmael reaches completion. The children of Ishmael [i.e. the Arab nations] will cause great wars in the world and the children of Edom will gather against them and wage war against them, one on the sea, one on the dry land, and one near Jerusalem. And they [the children of Edom] will rule over them [the children of Ishmael], but the Holy Land will not be given over to the children of Edom. [The children of Edom is the Christian West, for Edom is Rome (see Num. 24:19, Rashi) and Rome signifies Greece-Rome and the Roman Catholic Church, the foundations of Western Civilization] ----------- If Moshiach comes tomorrow, the state of Israel will be dismantled and replaced with kingdom of Israel. Israel is the name given to Prophet Jacob and it is unholy to use Israel as name of a state that has no connection with Prophet Jacob. The state of Israel was founded by atheists. The kingdom of Israel will be a nation of priests replacing the nation of thieves. If Moshiach comes with a sword, non-believing Jews will be killed as G-d gave Torah to the Jews and there is no such thing as secular or atheist Jews.
Here's a question...please ask Muslims living in Israel who don't accept Israeli citizenship if they would want Jordanian citizenship? Ask if they understand that 2/3 of former Palestine is now Jordan - a Muslim monarchy.
Huge percentage of us have Jordanian citizenship. Jordan and Palestine were once one country so yes Israeli nationality is an occupying identity, Jordan isn't.
@@AmalJaber38 than why are you staying here? Go to Jordan. You can leave. Why stay if it's so bad? I've never met an Israeli Arab that doesn't like Israel. I have Arab teachers and doctors and currently an Arab Muslim is teaching me how to drive.
Are you kidding? The following represent a list of all the acts of Arab initiated violence that occurred in the region before the first act of Jewish initiated violence ever occurred. Tell me again, how you think the problem is that Jewish violence made it impossible? Battle of Tai hei in 1921 Nebi Musa riots Jaffa Riots of 1921 Jerusalem stabbings of 1921 Palestine riots of 1929 Black hand killings (both in 1931 and again in 1932) Jaffa Riots of 1933 Haifa Riots of 1933 Jaffa Riots of 1936 Arab general strike of 1936 Mass killing event in Safed in 1937 Mass killing of Karen kayamet workers in 1937 Mass killing of passengers in 1938 Tiberias pogram of 1938
And you hypocrite you want palestinian to exist?! By chasing them from their home, killing them, ethnically cleansing them? You are a shame to humanity!! Look to a map before 1948 and a map of palestine now... You are just expanding your land without any concern to the poor palestinians... You are just ego centric not thinking about any one but you. Israël in a nutshell : offended by everything,ashamed of nothing.. get lost genociders!!
@@baikorg if that is true why every time they were offered a two state solution they turned it down. Maybe it is because they want a one state solution where there are only Arabs living there and all of the Jews are dead
It is very difficult for Palest..inians in Jerusalem to obtain citizenship. A Pale..stinian who has an Israeli-Arab mother can obtain citizenship. Apa..rtheid has many aspects, such as ste..aling Pale..stinian homes and giving them to Isr..aelis to live in their place, stealing plots of land owned by Pal..estinians, and building Israeli set..tlements in their place, as is happening in Jerusalem and the West Bank.
Corey your videos are wonderful but unfortunately asking versions of the same question doesn’t change the answer. Survey published last week shows 70-80% support Hamas attack on Oct 7th. If there’ll be no moral reconning in the PA side there will be no change. As your videos shows Israelis are willing to go a long way for peace but have stopped believing it is possible. A reconning is needed in the PA side. The West needs to understand this reconning is needed and support only those in the PA that don’t promote Jew hate. This will take time 5,10,25 years if we all put our will and mind to it.
Kind of sums up one of the core problems: “Would you rather concretely improve your life or make some symbolic identity stand?” “Yes, sell me more of that symbolic identity stuff.”
They are not going to pay Taxes to support aparthied system, and why should they submit to Jewish law , this is what Israel wants to force them to either become Israeli or leave, a toxic relationship with a narcissistic state
@@MuffinEnjoyer palestinian Arab identity is to hate Israel, fight it and hope that one day it disappears, this is what defines them they won't give that up easily
Some of the answers made me so sad. People can hold themselves back for such irrational reasons. I understand emotionally why it would be difficult for a Palestinian to get an Israeli citizenship. And yet, they de-facto live in an annexed territory, and would have so many freedoms if they'd put their biases and societal pressures aside and simply do what's best for them.
palestine is a colonial name, it was the roman empire named it after they expell israelites & jews to europe &. some part of asia, but they left the poor jews & israelites in the land to mock them
@@DieNibelungenliad it was gift to them by GOD, israel means people of GOD, GOD destroy all nephilims(giants), rephaim(vampire like human, wearwolf & sorcerer etc... but of course it the angel of the Lord helped them to drive all those demon possessed people now their dead & demon spirit lives inside muslims,
No. He's asking Jerusalem residents, you and I both know how problematic and unfair that is. If Israel and Palestine were to become one country and not an ethno-state, where ALL citizens HAVE equal rights and obligations, then that would be different.
@@shaimael-elaimy590 they dont want neither one state nor two states. They want no israel no jews. Im sure there are many good palestinians that are probably deep inside ok with jews, ive only met 2 and they are actually from jordan they are super nice. but surely the ones who go free palestine means they want jews out of the entire land even if it requires killing all of them, which is terrible. And i feel thats unfair considering how many two state offers haven been made and declined by palestinians since the british mandate made the first partition plan. Very sad because hamas and the palestinian government instead of focusing on building a state, they focus on destroying israel. I just wish everyone could live happy together… but it just seems like one side is determined to destroy the other, but the other one seems to be determined to not let that happen at any cost. And many who do choose to do this, actually have good opportunities that they would not otherwise have.
We don't live in Israel. We live in our land before the founding of Israel. Ask Israel to stop committing cri..mes daily and stop kil..ling and ste..aling our homes. Whoever sees the reality and sees the theft of homes and the continuous theft of plots of land from the Palestinians knows that the two-state offers are just lies and ink on paper since Yosef Weitz said, “This land will not belong to the two peoples.”
@@deemaabobaker5894 exactly😂 Israelis keep claiming there’s no apartheid but would NEVER switch places with Palestinians, because everyone knows Israelis have it much better and easier.
his University department is funded by israeli govt via grants. He those naive boomers who lied to themselves that they can be exempted from their parent generations theft of native lands. he doesn't realize the current political status is two State solution. he's to bais for liberalism, secularism etc, that he would rather set himself up for pikachu face then accept harsh reality that this colony state will backfire with worst outcomes....
So if a Palestinian travels abroad, he loses his residency, but not if he or she is an Israeli, but this should not be apartheid in the sense of making two laws, one benefitting the Israelis and the other harming the Palestinians?
No, if a Palestinian from East Jerusalem with an Israeli residency card travels abroad, they do not lose their Israeli residency. If they move abroad for more than a year, they lose their Israeli residency. The same is true for any non-citizen resident of Israel, whether they are Druze, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or have no religion.
@@ElisaAvigayil look im not saying its ok all im saying is beurocracy is inherntly not discriminatory so you have to put the effort in to make that stipulation and when your goverment is crap then it just doesnt happen
Israel is accused of not giving them equal rights but when asked if they want to be citizens with equal rights they say no. Those doing the accusations are not making it in good faith and the problem isn't Israel but it's rather the Palestinians who don't want to be citizens in a free and democratic country.
Israel is not "accused of not giving them equal rights" but to occupy and colonize by force their territory. They are accused of giving by force Israelies bigger rights in Palestine than what Palestinians are allowed to on their own land. What Palestinians has always asked for is not "equal rights" but an and of the military occupation and of the colonization.
@@HermessioYou're totally wrong. Firstly Israel is accused of that (i.e. the "apartheid" claim). Second getting citizenship and equal rights does mean there's no more occupation. The status of the territory will become "Israel" and it won't be occupied territory any more (from Jordan or Egypt). As to colonization, that's not a thing, but Israel isn't going away. By your logic Canada should be handed back to the indigenous people, which isn't happening, the path taken in Canada is that the indigenous became citizens and making them right is discussed within that framework. That's the only workable solution here as well between the native Jewish people and the colonizing Arabs.
“After the Sharpeville massacre of 1960, Israel became a harsh critic of apartheid, leading to a break in its relations with Pretoria” - foreign relations of Israel Wikipedia page. I think Nelson Mandela projected his beliefs on Israel, independently of reality.
@@matanbar-on7566 In 1977, the United Nations passed a mandatory arms embargo against South Africa. Israel has repeatedly violated this mandate, equipping the white minority government with a number of weapons, including missiles, several kinds of aircraft, long-range missile boats and other lethal equipment. Israelis have also trained South African troops and provided advisers to the apartheid state in its military attacks against Angola.
Anyone anywhere in the Western democratic world or anywhere in the world (for that matter) who has residency in a country and NOT citizenship loses their residency status the moment they do not reside in that country anymore. It doesn’t have anything to do with Israel. Residency laws are pretty much standard anywhere in the world. Why didn’t you apply for citizenship and wait until you had it before you decided to move to another country? Don’t blame Israel for your lack of knowledge or common sense or both.
But they dont want citizenship . Noone is stopping them from getting citizenship. If they are suffering , which they are not, Israel has nothing to do with it. Only east jerusalrm is like this.
but it's my native country regaurdless of the name of it , i am not immigrant to so called israel , i did not move in there from some other country in order to apply immigration laws on me@@moshinomiriamson3717
Not judging. Just wondering. Before you went to school... Why didn't you just apply for citizenship? It would have been so easy. From the outside, its seems like you just shot yourself in the foot, and blamed Israel for it. Again, I don't know the whole social/political situation, so maybe there is something I don't know or don't understand that you can explain to me.
Of course they do not want Israeli citizenship. However check the queue at the post office at the date of social security . Ask if israel stop paying to none citizen. What would they do?
@@YesmineMenyar Ukranians and Russians have a lot longer ethnic disparity than between Jordanian Arabs and Palestinian Arabs (especially Jordanian rule just stopped ~60 years ago); we are talking about centuries to the point that they are different languages now as Ukraine was controlled by by the Austrian empire for a long time.
