But first as Ottoman vassals they lost WW1 and forfeited any and all sovereignty resulting in the British Mandate for Palestine. As was the case throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, etc…
I guess the counter argument here is that not everyone who lost land in these wars "started" the war, or really participated actively in it. Many believed they had to flee for their lives even if they didn't care about the war. So it's maybe unfair to lump all the Palestinians in with the ones that actually waged war at the time. On the other hand, life isn't fair and sometimes you have to take your lumps when you're caught up in a lot of bad luck and move on. But then you can retort that they have nowhere to move on to any more. The same leaders who caught them up in the war won't let them immigrate or annex into friendly neighboring countries, keeping them bottled up in Palestine as basically an entire nation of human shields holding back Israel from becoming fully settled. So I would say many Palestinians are victims of a great injustice but it's not just at the hands of Israel but also various Arab leaders and the United Nations.
@@DobesVandermeer Benny Morris (2008). 1948: a history of the first Arab-Israeli war. Yale University Press. p. 61. ISBN 9780300126969. Retrieved 13 July 2013. As early as mid-August 1947, Fawzi al-Qawuqji-soon to be named the head of the Arab League's volunteer army in Palestine, the Arab Liberation Army (ALA)-threatened that, should the vote go the wrong way, "we will have to initiate total war. We will murder, wreck and ruin everything standing in our way, be it English, American or Jewish". It would be a "holy war", the Arabs suggested, which might even evolve into "World War III". ; p. 396- al-Qawuqji told his troops that the purpose is "ridding Palestine of the Zionist plague
HEY ALIEN!!! UR ANCESTOR HAVE LEAVE THE LAND FOR ALMOST 2000 YEAR. OFC IT'S NOT UR LAND!!! WHY MUST WE FOLLOW UR FICTIONAL BOOK??? U R MAYBE THE 100TH GENERATION😂😂😂 IT'S DISGUSTING WHEN U SUDDENLY CAME FROM OUTSIDE AND SAY "IT'S OUR LAND, OUR BOOK SAY THAT" HEYY WHY MUST WE FOLLOW IT!! UR FICTIONAL BOOK HAS NO RIGHT!!! Any, why u blame us? are we the one who destroyed it who destroyed ur temple? are the one who throw ur ancestor??? blame roman and christian😂 muslim rebuilt, recover and save the land and temple(at that time ur temple has dissapear and became trash bin) after it destroyed by roman😂😂. then u want to claim it😂😂😂 anw, why must we follow ur fictional book??? The one who build it is the one who own it. u guys stubborn or what?? ur ancesstor have leave that place for almost 2000 years. 😂😂
When Jews departed Israel in the year 70 AD to get away from the Romans who destroyed their temple they went in every direction. There were Jews in Iran, Iraq, Yemen, North Africa, Russia, as well as Europe.
You know that about 50% of Israelis are Mizrahi Jews and almost 900 tausend Jews were driven out from Arab countries ? Xd … the absolutely most polish Jews and 3/4 of all European jews were murdered during the holocaust. Yeah so many from Europe
How stupidly ignorant of you. European jews are Ashkenazi people, but go get an education and you just might learn about the Sephardic Jews who have lived in Israel for centuries.... They are the Hebrews who have lived in the land since biblical times.
@@Zezumiiwell in that case I best get a move on and start. I didn't know I'm entitled as Roman to genocide countries for a land that we had 2000years ago 🤦🏻♂️🤬🤡
Free where? Never existed, go do some Googling and find out that palestine (intentional lower case p) was never a state, never. The only atrocity carried out was on Oct 7th against innocent women and children, raped and burned amongst other things. Greece? Whats so good about Greece? Bankrupt hellhole with nothing to be proud of. You aren't capable of supporting yourselves.
Every western hard working man and woman know that. Problem is working people dont have time to draw media atention by screaming and breaking public property.
So if you were an intruder and barged in your neighbors house to attack him and he beats your ass ... Does this mean you are a victim ?.... The intruder being Israel.. it's deeper than who started it on Oct 7th. Way deeper.
@@lbs7774 Humus did commit it on oct 7th. They ethnically cleansed 20 jewish villages around Gazza. If they had power 🇮🇱 has, they would destroy 🇮🇱 and everyone in it. So Gazzanz should actually be grateful they have such a soft enemy.
Keep up the attempts to bring out truth, even when the mobs are repeatedly and loudly screaming the lies. "Start a war, you might lose." Another truth. Blessings.
You’re also spinning this narrative that anyone against Jewish people , may god protect them and everyone, that anyone who disagrees is saying that Jewish people stole the land. Agggh wrong. I spent time listening to the most rational debates and they are saying that Israel was there before ww2 but it’s over occupation of displaced Jewish families caused conflicts much like we are seeing today with the rise of displaced minorities from all over the world causing the same conflicts. So by your standards if we are attacked in our own homes we deserve to slaughter everything and anyone to get to the ones that hurt us. This logic is so misguided and wrong.
The thing is we did not started , you stole the Land and we try to protect our land. Simple as that and yes Israel stole the land because saying that your ancestors lived here 3000 years ago is not a valid argument and even Canaanites were here before Jews so saying it’s belongs to you is false. The land belongs to the people who were already living there before 1947 which is Palestinian and maybe there were no countries name Palestine back like Lebanon etc but people were living there and want to have their own country but Israel stole that from them in 1947.
@@mohamedkarim2155 Whose Land Is it? Palestinian Claims ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FWB8IW5k2Sw.htmlsi=O2nS-V43OnYwFC9d Stolen Land? Exploring Israel's Historical, Legal Claim to Territory ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NTT8qCp0-c4.htmlsi=9ztUNpa0px7LcNOE Stolen Palestinian Land? An Arab Israeli Responds ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R1cVsyUXxYM.htmlsi=s8gtdgS7XTYMkb-N Why isn’t there a Palestine state? - Prager University. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-76NytvQAIs0.html The Palestine which "never existed" appeared on ancient maps, encycloped... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q8jQNoUPxsk.html via @RU-vid No such thing as a Palestinians state. fb.watch/bVA8cHYuZy/ Debunking the Palestine Lie ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O7ByJb7QQ9U.htmlsi=zakNy21Y_KJZ-cAO
Oh, no, he shouldn't. He will make a fool of himself. But if that's what he wants, then go ahead. But I am sure he doesn't dare doing that. He, like any zionist out there are just cowards.
As you have previously stated numerous times - under the Ottoman Empire (until 1918) most of the land in Israel (only named Palestine by the UN and British from 1920-47) was owned by people who didn't live there. The landowners were mainly but not exclusively Arabs who lived in Damascus, Beirut etc. The 'local' Arabs were nomadic. The Jews raised money during the British mandate and bought all their settlement lands from the foreign owners, cleared and irrigated it, created industry, agriculture, ports and railways, sparking a wave of Arab immigration from surrounding Arab countries. Then, of course, the attempt to displace the Jews in 1947 didn't go well. Arab immigration to Israel from 1920-47 was just a form of failed invasion - similar to what is going on in Europe now.
A pro-Pal person will tell you that this is Jew supremacy to say that the Jews built everything (or nearly everything!! I am so fed up by their annoying narrative!
@@ShowmeVacay The Palestinian identity as a people only occurred after 1964 with the Soviets funding the PLO to try to get a greater foothold in the Middle East.
@@ShowmeVacay There was no palestinian identity until 1967, and for most of history, the land of Israel was very scarcely inhabited, as for how they named themselves, just Arabs, maybe syrians because that was the place's name under Ottoman rule.
2 million of Israel’s citizens are Arabs. That’s 20% of the population. They’re the descendants of those who chose not to partake in the violent war in 1948, and didn’t try to riot against the newly established Jewish government - so they weren’t driven out and didn’t flee their homes. They’re doing fine, much better than their brethren in most nearby Muslim dictatorships. Lots of Arab pharmacists in Israel. A Supreme Court judge. Plenty of doctors too. My GP was an Arab. Those who adopted the Palestinian identity and swore to bring down Israel are just bitter - they bet on the wrong horse, and lost everything. If they had laid down their weapons, they could have had a 2-state solution and work visas for jobs in Israel long ago. The bitterness consumes them from within.
You keep going back to 1947. Its been Palestine since at least 1500 bc until they forced Israel to exist how is that NOT stealing land. And Israel attacked Egypt Syria and Jordan FIRST this is common knowledge
@@easymoneysniper9013Never been Palestine. Palestine has never existed. It was Jewish land long before Arabs moved in. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the French and then the British took control of the area. The UN divided it between the Palestinian people and the Israelis. The Israelis made a country. The Palestinians didn't even consider creating a country. They whined, and immediately started a war. The Palestinians are a hateful people. If they didn't have Israel to fight against, they'd be fighting someone else or most likely, amongst themselves. The son of one of Hamas's founders even confirms this.
Since you like statistic so much, here you go: The british equiped the migrating jews with fire power and even helped themselves to push out palestinians out of their own homes. Later on, UN decided to unjustly give the european migrants (todays israelis) 55% of the land while their population after mass migration was around 400,000 compared to palestinians 800,000. This essentially as u can imagine made the palestinians lose even more land, forcing even more to move out of their own homes. Add insult to injury, the land that was given to the euro jews had far better land for farming and sea ports. As u can clearly see, this is not a fair deal.
@@tonisn7959 you leave out a lot of additional details. The fact is that there could have been peace. But one religion decided against it. Fast forward to 2024 and we are still there. Today today we have queers for Palestine Hamas would kill instantly, Palestinian people oppressed by various militant groups, yet inside Israel Jews Christian’s and Muslims exist in peace. I quite agree on that the formation of Israel is not perfect. But Palestinians had also a big chance but their political leaders always shot it down. If you look into statistics you will find the proof of that.
@@cekuhnen my comment got deleted so ill say in summary that peace is not an option for someone who is mistreated and has no other option, that is why they elected hamas. As long as the illegal state of israel exists, hamas will stay around.
Yes educate me also, in 1948 as a first grader in Georgia, USA, I had a non Jewish teacher tell me about a small state taking on the forces of Islamic fighters tempting to eradicate this small group,our educators have failed in telling the truth about the ongoing plan to eradicate Israel, I am 82 now, there will always be an Israel!
@@emad3241 Oren talks about Dir Yasin too, has video of the arabs themselves exadurating the details about what hapoened there to get the arab countries to come and help them and how it just created fear that made many arabs flee from the land (he called it Akbar fadiha), you shold watch it.
At the end of Herzl Street, a plot was allocated for a new building for the Herzliya Hebrew High School, founded in Jaffa in 1906. The cornerstone for the building was laid on 28 July 1909. The town was originally named Ahuzat Bayit. On 21 May 1910, the name Tel Aviv was adopted
@@ranonampangom2185only zionists think they can purchase countries .God gave it to you to purchase it over and over And who in his right mind could sell to you people since you are so generous people
Palestine (Syria Palaestina) was the name Rome gave the province of Judaea after the shimon bar kokhba revolt. Some historians believe it’s an attempt from the romans to distance the land from the jewish identity, while others think it’s a more neutral descriptive term to refer to a larger region which included judaea, which was merged with galilee.
@@lbs7774Incorrect. That land was always Jewish until the Romans kicked them out. There was of course other people's there like Filistin but Filistin has nothing to do with the modern Palestinians. Tell us were you against the Jordanian occupation of that land prior to the establishment of the state of Israel?
I've really appreciated your videos and how clearly you lay out the history and timeline. I'm going to make a personal observation, though, because I can only imagine you're under some stress. You look a little tired and thin. I hope you are taking care of yourself.
My grandfather was a jew in Syria when all his property was confiscated in 1947. And so many jews from arab countries. Hello, UNRWA, European countries, university students, I am a refugee!! Could I also receive some endless financial support?
I hope you appreciate not having been pampered with free support. It's obviously not good for people, as the world could see if they tried to see through the guise of victimhood.
Blatant lie .. I lived in Syria for 10 years.. the Jews in Syria are doing very very well especially in the better areas of Damascus.. the dumb ones here will believe you
Such a good point. How much of the middle east would the Jews own if all of the people who were forced out of Arab countries allowed the Right of Return?
the war started why? u came in drove to a land that isn't yours to start a nation... this guy... just look at him... are people in inhabiting middle east look north European like that? homie came from Germany
Jews were there. Roman invaded and expulsed them Arabs stole it to Romans Meanwhile europe didnt wanted jews. What do you do if you dont want live with them? Give them back where THEY came from. Obiously europe dont want them cause they are not from europe. They are from Judea
The thing is we did not started , you stole the Land and we try to protect our land. Simple as that and yes Israel stole the land because saying that your ancestors lived here 3000 years ago is not a valid argument and even Canaanites were here before Jews so saying it’s belongs to you is false. The land belongs to the people who were already living there before 1947 which is Palestinian and maybe there were no countries name Palestine back like Lebanon etc but people were living there and want to have their own country but Israel stole that from them in 1947.
@@mohamedkarim2155You lost the land in the Arab war of 1947. America has bases in Italy, Japan, & Germany because we won WWII. You play the hand of poker, you may lose all your chips.
@@--Skip-- we did not lose, the Arab help the U.K. and did a revolution against the Ottoman Empire and the land was promised by the U.K. for the Arabs But theirs is a difference between putting a base or stealing a land . Even if we lose, it doesn’t mean Israel have the right to steal the land. It’s not 1400 but 1947 and it’s hypocritical for Jews to say that when 6 millions of you died by Hitler and if you think colonialism is good , you’re the problem.
I really don't understand.. why were people sleeping when these same jionist klld forty four pales child in 2023 before okt seven... Where was their "humanity" when even toddlers were not spared nd sh*t in head ...
Vladimir Jabotinsky 1880-1940 - Post-Herzl Zionist ideologue. - Founder of the Irgun, a pro-colonial terrorist group. - Mentored & inspired countless Israeli leaders. "It is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority. My readers have ageneral idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. [...) This is equally true of the Arabs. They feel at least the same instinctive, jealous love of Palestine as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico, and the Sioux for their rolling prairies. [...) Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised. That is what the Arabs of Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into the Land of Israel." - [12] The Iron Wall, Vladimir Jabotinsky. "The iron law of every colonizing movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed in all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not "difficult", not "dangerous" but IMPOSSIBLE! Zionism is a colonizing adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force." - [13] The Iron Law, Vladimir Jabotinsky.
more people love israel and understand islam want colonize the world and quit your genocidal religion when they reaLLy understand it because they don t want get coolonize by isLam
every human none muslim on the planet : why you want colonize the worLd with islam marhmoud ::because allah tell me the world is mine .every human in the planet :its not gonna possible to live in peace with you panpan boum marhmoud dead
That’s Sheikh Jarrah. A community built by Hasidic Jews and abandoned after the war. Jews still hold the deeds and claim ownership over that land. Legally the women who says it’s her home is squatting. Jacob is a terrible spokesperson for the company he was hired by to go occupy that space after the courts ruled she could stay there if she paid rent, and she refused to pay
Just two points. 1. Are you sure that you will never ever loose any war ? 2. And so did you hear about the Geneva convention and the rules of war or are we back to the Dark Ages again? All semites, arabs and jews alike have to ask for external help in deep rehab program. Please restore human sanity and all the simple universal rights.
Thank you for your input and videos. I learned a lot while searching for information which I could verify by myself. Take a break if needed and dont ever let anybody wear you down.
@@shahadshamy4471 bro you dont even know the sources. you probably dont even know what the other side thinks, take a look at memri tv only a barbarian agrees with what they say, coincidentally they think the west is barbaric.
In the 40s lebanon was Christian majority country In the 50s 60s isreali war, Christian majority lebanon took in a majority of Palestine refugees. More than any islamic country. In the 70s Palestine refugees got together with the Lebanese muslims and started killing the Christians majority of lebanon. Lebanese civil war started The Christian genocide of the lebanon Christian majority made them a minority within their own country By the 80s lebanon was muslim majority nation Isreal should be saved.
@@ToatallyYellow why arab countries don't want Palestinian refugees ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r7GAg8sWDpI.htmlsi=F58AqASu7cvBDvRY
are u gonna leave out the obv facts that it was the chritian lebanese who started the Civil war, and have u forgotten that they targetted palestinians refugee camps when Israel was around? lier.
So you're saying Hitler was right. The country belongs to the Germans and the Germans were allowed to drive the other inhabitants of their country and out of their homes. The Germans were allowed to do whatever they wanted with the other people?
Love this !! Cold, hard logic ! Why does Israel among all the countries of the earth, have to give back land won during the enemy's offensive attack on 1947. We might as well tell France to give back Alsace-Lorraine to Germany and tell the US to give back Texas, New Mexico and Arizona to Mexico and see how well that goes over 😂
Military conquest is not a legitimate method for expanding a country's territory. As a country literally created by UN mandate, Israel should at least hold to their ideals and comply with their resolutions.
@@nocrtname Military conquest is exactly how the border lines for every nation on earth were drawn. Israel has held their end of bargains. It is the Arabs who have continued to break their promises and proved that their word is worthless.
I would hope so, since the American taxpayer gives them 104.20 dollars PER SECOND. Europe gave away a land that wasnt theirs to a people it didnt belong to any more. You cant goad a nation into self-defense and then act like the poor victim when they retaliate. This isnt WW2, you cant hide the truth as easy now. People are waking up to your tactics. White phosphorus on babies?? Attacking your own people to make it look like Hamas did it so you can justify and extermination. Yea, you cant act like a monster and treat every other people in the world as literal human cattle and then act shocked when they hate you.
The Romans conquered the Jewish Kingdom...the Arabs took it from the Romans...the Ottomans conquered it from the Arabs...and the Brits from the Ottomans...and then the Jews from the British. ....circle closed.
@@mikethomas6715As far as I know, the DNA says the Jews there now are the original Jews descendants. They have always been very homogenous and closed off after they were exiled. I see it as if native Americans left America and came back centuries later with a bit of European in them. They're still the same people with the same ancestors. Same culture, same religion. Just with a bit of extra spice mixed in. In fact, a lot of natives actually are mixed. But then at that point, is it still fair to say it's theirs? For any elder scrolls players, are dwarves and snow elves still native if they managed to come back to life, or are the nords the natives now? And why does one single group get dibs anyway. "I was here first it's mine!" Like what lol
@@EloraEllery-fx3zgremember, if the Bible has a shred of historical truth in it, the Hebrews stole that land from the cananites... It wasn't even theirs initially.
Everything in the world is logical. Our understanding is the problem. Jew hatred is the psychological desire to eat, swallow, assimilate the jews. It’s purpose is to become one with the eternal spirit wich shines through the eternal people. In hebrew is it pure etymology/maths of words kiss=weapon~=bite, to eat=make everything to himself. Peoples which behave like that will have to learn that they are (not fully) wrong. It’s definitely about an intimate connection but it’s not by eating but by love. They want to kiss jews, not bite. It’s about love, not breakfast.
Jews hatred exists because of Zionism and the many evils it has wrought on this world. National Socialism was 100% a reaction to Jewish backed communism in Russia. Don't bs me son.
@@arikrex9978 hate/ towards any other group is a natural instinct but humans can control their instincts (and use them or mutual benefit between people) in comparison to animals
Exactly but they called themselves arabs before that but the pro Palestinians claim the arabs controlled the whole land before 1947 even though they don't have a evidence for that
Actually none of the land belonged to the "Palestinians" now or at any point in history. They had an opportunity through the UN Partition Plan of 1947. But they rejected it. Palestine was never a sovereign nation, so they never had any legitimate ownership. It ceased to exist in 1947.
@@aaronkristo858 They lived there for countless centuries mate, along with the jews before "jew" or "arab" was a term, together known as Canaanites. The partition plan was heavily bias towords jews, giving them 55% of the land while only having a jewish population of 400,000 migrated jews, while palestinians had 800,000 people. Before even this happend, the british worked with the zionist pigs to help migrate to palestine and supply these european colonialists (jews) with ammunition and weapons. These migrants used these weapons to unjustly gain land from them while also the british helped in combat too. The partinion plan was just another attempt to extort more land illegally from their owners, making palestinians lose more land. The land that these euro colonialists have gotten also contained far better land for farming and sea ports. You telling me you wouldn't reject such blatant mistreatment and thievery?
Westerosi miles aren’t the same as real miles. Westeros is britain and ireland following land movement in the future, it’s only the size of those landmasses
When I see people like you❤, I see aliens who came to Earth to live on it. You are a good alien❤. You live thanks to the spirits of the Native Americans😊
@@mjtheway4ward 😂😂😂😂 because RU-vid algorithm In order for my comment not to be deleted, Regarding the video, the man is lying. My Jewish friends were the ones who started in 1947, not the Muslims. There was no fi ght before that all you have to understand is that you are and my Israeli friends are aliens 😂
How did the juice end up on "Arab" land in the first place? The video tries to make it seem they were living side by side all along LOL! :D:D , They went there in numbers, they were considering Australia, Argentina or Palestine, according to 1893 doctrine. The British had acquired Palestine so they gave it to the juice. Once the juice came they declared indepenance 1 year later after they had driven 700,000 people out. They then proceeded to invade syria, egypt and lebanon.
Imperial Japan was a brutally savage enemy. After two atomic bombs and a ruined economy they SOMEHOW worked their way back up to becoming one of the top performing economies today. This is what happens when you actually WANT to progress as a country. The Japanese put their nose to the grindstone and busied themselves economically instead of launching rockets all day. I bet today if Japan remained the same way they were post-WW2 most of these people would sympathize with them and blame the U.S for everything. You don't need to be Jew to stand with Israel - you just need a functioning brain.
even with 2 bombs drop it japana there was no invasion, Palestine was captured from 1917,by the britsh , then a settlement with the jews to make them part of Palestine, where Palestinians agreed to to have the jews to live with them in the land ww2 started, and the bitsh again make a settlements to give the actual land to jews as they where fleeding from eurpoe, then with the help of the britsh army they started prisonning palestinias where nobody can leave the country can enter the country, a big jail, so how could someone evolve in such a nature the resistance army of palestians "hamas" the only goal was to have back the country first,, and for don't u ever think that Israel build it her self, all their money that was stolen from the affrican gold mines and diamned mines and the help of germans giving them money as a gesture for what hitler done that boosted them to have a good start, otherwise ........
The Palestinians wear the badge of victim. They should raise themselves up, create, become economically successful and choose better leadership. The victim card is old news.
There are Jewish and Israeli scholars who say otherwise and have written books on the truth of the nakba. Norman Finkelstein and others. I respect Oren and would love to hear him debate one of them.
They are a fringe "extreme" minority in the Jewish society, who try to earn fame on our backs. Check how they earn money, or what's their hidden agenda.
Nakba originally referred to the “disaster” that was the failure to raze the nascent state of Israel. It has been an extremely successful propaganda operation to revise the meaning to pretend it is oppression that they lost a war they began.
Itulah zionist selalu mengingkari apa yang mereka lakukan sifat itu sudah ada sejak ribuan tahun silam...but remember you only life once,when you die that real life begin goodluck☹️☹️☹️
You know what your right in terms that the other side says the most outlandish stuff and no one listens, its literally coming from their mouth and people be like ... hmm actually no they didnt mean that. Just take a look at some interviews on memri tv
That's what I'm saying all the time to the non muslim pro Palestine people..when you talk to them you see they are clueless about everything regarding Israel and Palestine..
You can see the first signs of radicalisation when they talk like its from an idiot bourd like robots ask them another question and they shout and waffle anything not to answere because they havnt got another answer .
I saw an interview with some one walking around on a campus, asking these kids supporting the pro Palestinian agenda, what do they mean, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. He got a different answer every time or they simply did not know. I mean, WTF. they are truly clueless as to why they are their. Duh, 🙄 what river, what sea. They also thought they were referring to just Gaza and possibly the West Bank. This is so pathetic if it wasent so scary at the same time that they are being manipulated and lead around by the nose.
The thing is we did not started , you stole the Land and we try to protect our land. Simple as that and yes Israel stole the land because saying that your ancestors lived here 3000 years ago is not a valid argument and even Canaanites were here before Jews so saying it’s belongs to you is false. The land belongs to the people who were already living there before 1947 which is Palestinian and maybe there were no countries name Palestine back like Lebanon etc but people were living there and want to have their own country but Israel stole that from them in 1947.
You are the clueless one. What kind of person thinks that England giving an English Jewish family, someone else's land. Is not theft? You have a peanut for a brain.
@@demaciasolosno, tribal Arabs were moved from the land under the British Palestine mandate numbering approximately 750000 before the war. That was the stated motive for the war, which the state of Israel started.
So simple so true! Many people had to flee war zones and to start life elsewhere, Jews too, those who survived the Holocaust..They didn't return to their houses in Poland, they built a new life elsewhere without help from anyone and without remaining a refugee for life and pass it as heritage to their children as Palestinians..
Wair wait wait ,,,,,,, they build new life 1- elsewhere and 2- without help from anyone? The jews after the holocaust went to Palestine to live peacefully and they were noo isreal 2- they get help from Palestinians , however the nakbah came and jews organisation statrt coming and attacking ,occupying Palestine by Britain and frence power to have “Isreal”.
Well said! My great grandfather lost all his lands, he escaped the concentration camps and built a new life, new home and family, without anyone’s help. Just like the majority of people in Europe after WWII. We are all healthy, strong and educated thanks to his strength and values.
I am pretty sure this guy talking about people who called themselves Palestinians in a late time and these guys were also immigrants but still the never owned or ruled the before 1995 and these guys always attacked jews
Question for all of you who defend the Partition of Palestine if someone comes to your house and said you have to give me half of your house because I want to give it to someone else would you agree with that jus asking
Well, arabs stolen that land to the Romans. And also jews come from judea, than was there. So, yes. I would give a bit of what i stolen to a person who is the oldest owner alive
They didnt start the war. Britian promised the Jews the Land of Palestine. And then Palestinians resisted and lost. And now you warmongers use that as an excuse. Pathetic reeally
They promised this land to jews because it was theirs and they could do whatever they want with it, arabs lived here but brits had control of this land(because the ottoman empire lost). And jews have always been there, they were a persecuted minority, but they were there. Oh and it's important to remember that the ones who decolonized this land in the first place were the jews. They actually fought the brits(for them limiting migration and not keeping their promises) and drove them away, making the a jewish/palestinian state a possibility.@royal_nemesis
The name of a Jewish colony from before 1948 that was on stolen land (read Palestinian ground): Kfar Etzion. Under the british mandate, the whole region (until 1948) was known as Palestine. And off course there were already people living there. Then, this territory was divided, and a large portion was given to the Jews (without palestinian consent). The Arab-Israeli war of 1948 was a direct result of the partitioning of Palestine. After this war, Israel took more than 60% (!) of the Arab territory. Also, Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including UN Security Council resolutions in 1979, 1980, and 2016. This has nothing to do with gaining territories after winning a war. This is pure annexation.
A large portion? 20% is a large portion? Explain how isreal abandoned Gaza. Or how Jerusalem the isrealies holy ground is now "Palestinians" your used to living these lies. But now one else is. We also hate Palestine due to the link between then and the monster Saddam Hussein.
The thing is we did not started , you stole the Land and we try to protect our land. Simple as that and yes Israel stole the land because saying that your ancestors lived here 3000 years ago is not a valid argument and even Canaanites were here before Jews so saying it’s belongs to you is false. The land belongs to the people who were already living there before 1947 which is Palestinian and maybe there were no countries name Palestine back like Lebanon etc but people were living there and want to have their own country but Israel stole that from them in 1947.
@@mohamedkarim2155 before 1947 entire population of area would be equal to Milwaukee, it was only due to I****is bringing civilization, did the existing P*****inian population started to prosper on back of I****i and started to settle the area at far higher rate, there would be still nothing without them coming.
The first Jewish settlement in Palestine goes back to the early 20th century when Jews facing widespread discrimination, religious persecution and pogroms in Europe started to arrive. Back then Palestine - which was still under British colonial control - was overwhelmingly Arab with a tiny Jewish minority. Tel Aviv, Israel’s largest city, was built as a settlement in the suburb of the Arab city of Jaffa in 1909.
@@alessandrociccone6718 yes it is, MLK said it first, look it up. If you deny Jews self determination on their own land (and that what Zionism is, if you have any other definition you definitely are antisemitic), if you single out Israel for de facto destruction then you are surely an antisemite.
@@alessandrociccone6718 yes it is, MLK said it first, look it up. If you deny Jews self determination on their own land (and that what Zionism is, if you have any other definition you definitely are antisemitic), if you single out Israel for de facto destruction then you are surely an antisemite.
You should also mention that there is no Arab land in Canaan. There is only Arab-colonized land. This is why even after 1948 no Aran land was 'stolen'. A land you colonized isn't yours.
@@colonol1239That is sort of true. Studies checked a connection between canaanites to today's local population and found that Jew, Palestinians and Lebanese have canaanite DNA. However if we look at the bible we see that God told the Jews to take the land from the canaanites and kill them. The Quran although not mentioning the name Canaan, also supports this (The canaanites did not believe in one God, they were pagans) so basically we can all agree that the land was promised to Jews by God, the former inhabitants were killed by his demand.
I sympathise with your argument. But be careful, it's a fragile line: Israelites colonised Canaan according to the Tanakh! How far do you go back in history to prove ownership?
@tiosurcgib Tanakh is not a historic document. It's a book of Israelite mythology. Not to say that myths cannot turn out to be true, but they are not by default factual. No historical record, as far as I know, supports the notion of Israelite invasion from the Sinai desert. The archeological and historical findings we do have paint a picture of Israelites being Canaanite tribes that slowly came together to form a nation. However, even if the Tanakh story of Egyptian slavery was true, it still shows Israelites to be Canaaneans - they became Israelites in Canaan, they went into Egypt from Canaan, and they returned from Egypt back home into Canaan, never seeking another home or another land for the next 3500 years. If that invasion did historically occur, and we to this day did have victims of that invasion around - I'd agree that you have a point. But what we have is (1) a conquest that may or may not have taken place, (2) by a bunch of local, not outlander tribes, (3) with victims that may or may not have been, and with none of them remaining today, (4) and a small nation that only ever asked for a small piece of land for themselves, nothing more. Contrast that to the grand colonization by Arabs... these two are incomparable. So, no, I don't think I'm in danger of presenting a fragile argument.
A sentence starts ALWAYS with a capital letter unless it's a continuation of the previous one .Yours is profoundly not a continuation, so.....😂@@scottsheridan4800
It can depending on the context of why the war was started in the first place. Most people like yourself believe the war in 1948 was unprovoked. This isn't true at all. From the moment the Zionist Jews arrived during the British mandate. They had plans to ethnically cleans the region of the Palestine people. There news articles and quotes from Jewish leaders stating that the only way to build a Jewish state is by getting rid of the Palestine people. This is part of why there was so much tension between the Palestine Arabs and Jews. That and there was a lot of mistreatment of Palestine even back then. Some will point to the partition plans. On surface those partition plans sound great but they weren't not from a Palestine point of view. 80% of the population was Palestine Arabs. Much of the land was owned by Palestine Arabs. The Partition plans would have forced Palestine to leave their lands and homes and communities behind and have to go some where else and rebuild from the ground up. The Palestine found this to be unacceptable. What's worse is the Jews were offering nothing in terms of compensation. They just expected the Palestine to hand over their lands and homes so Jews could build a state. When Britain pulled out and Jews declared their independence and their statehood this was the final straw. The Palestine had every reason to believe that Israel was eventually going to force them off their lands and homes. How can the Jews declare their statehood when the Palestine live on the vast majority of the land. The only way that could happen is if they took the land from them to build their statehood. So while the Jews didn't like do anything military wise to provoke a war. They were being passive aggressive and gave the Palestine Arabs every reason to believe that they were going to attack them thus provoking a conflict.
I think most of the college protests are being funded through domestic packs that launder money coming in from abroad you have a video that shows a dozen identical tents. Another College has another two dozen identical, tents brand new someone with deep pockets is funding this they have help organizing this, they are given talking points. There is as much election interference as it is an Astroturf response. I don’t know if these people are being paid, but they’re being funded the organizers of this are people who will be going into prop Palestinian activism as their career, whether in journalism or to work at an anti-Semitic think tank, the next generation of Palestinian students applying to American University to organize similar events.
The Balfour Declaration was a letter written by British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lionel Walter Rothschild, in which he expressed the British government’s support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
@@lizard_girl_ ppl are missing the fact that if they do believe Jws have a right to that Arab territory...they were NOT eur0pean converts. they descend from the Khazars who converted. they did not come from Pal3stine or the m1ddle east Russ1a showed paintings of jesus before the 1500s and some of them depict him with an Afro. the Izraelites were BLK s3mites like you find in Y3men. Putin just changed the images in his churches. he has no reason to do this to please anyone. Moses wife was Ethiopian, its right in the Bible but they dont mention it because it proves they are not descendants of that area. Look up where Portugal deported Jws to during the inquisition. WEST AFRICA. Either way, no one should be claiming land from thousands of years in the past.
Vladimir Jabotinsky 1880-1940 - Post-Herzl Zionist ideologue. - Founder of the Irgun, a pro-colonial terrorist group. - Mentored & inspired countless Israeli leaders. "It is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority. My readers have ageneral idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. [...) This is equally true of the Arabs. They feel at least the same instinctive, jealous love of Palestine as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico, and the Sioux for their rolling prairies. [...) Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised. That is what the Arabs of Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into the Land of Israel." - [12] The Iron Wall, Vladimir Jabotinsky. "The iron law of every colonizing movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed in all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not "difficult", not "dangerous" but IMPOSSIBLE! Zionism is a colonizing adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force." - [13] The Iron Law, Vladimir Jabotinsky.
lol u better go back to poland buddy take a dna test my dad born in palestne west bank zuebdah im born in orlando fl i kknow u have dual citizenship come meet me
Although it is completely ridiculous to accuse Israel of committing genocide against the Arabs who are oddly labeled as "Palestinians," there is no Arab country that would not quietly thank Israel if she really did do that. If these selfsame Arabs went to those other Arab countries, they very well might all be killed or imprisoned or otherwise oppressed. There's a reason they do not let them in right now. Think about it, Apologists.
The germans said the same thing about a certain group of chosen people they sailed around the world trying to get other countries to take as refugees... nobody will accept them. Ironic.
@@gianthillsracist? Do you just use words without knowing their meaning? It seems many folks do these days, so you've got plenty of company. I've read a lot about this since Hamas butchered Israelis last year; even watched several documentaries. At some point you've got to learn to weed through the propaganda and get to a few facts uncomfortable though they may be. Israel has not started a single war but has successfully won several. None of the neighboring countries allow Palestinians in. Gaza even borders Egypt but the Egyptians refuse them. Besides if you're so much smarter than the rest of us so called "racists" as you say, then take this guy's challenge: name just one Jewish settlement on stolen land. Yes you'll need supporting evidence to make a legitimate case but, go for it. Do enlighten us, Mr Superior.
What the European doing there in the first place ??? What’s was the reason of Britain occupation ??? What was the Belford declaration talking about ???!!!! Please teach me sir 😅
You should do a video about each massacre Jews suffered in the region starting from Hebron massacre in the 1500’s. And go down history until 1948 with the historical context. Maybe a series of videos. I figured you’re probably the best person to do this. I know at some point in the 20th century Jews started fighting back. People need to understand the context before 1948, as most pro-Palestinians think history started in 1948 and that somehow Jews and Arabs lived holding hands and singing cumbaya before 1948 lol. That never happened like at all. It was one massacre after the other until Jews started fighting back in my opinion. I know this goes back before the 1500’s but I think that’s enough for people to know. Having said that, I think that you have done a great job of educating people. Unfortunately I think that you shouldn’t have to. I think that Israelis and Zionists have failed to inform 3rd parties about the Israeli side, like a lot! And this has allowed the Arabs to control the narrative so easily. Not that its their fault entirely but I think that they have done a poor job of educating. You actually have done it for the most part but unfortunately there’s a lot of work to be done. I think that the UN is criminal and complicit in Arab crimes against humanity. I can’t express the level of disgust I feel for that organization. The level of hypocrisy and dishonesty of the Left also amazes me. Like Russia/Ukraine war has killed close to 1 million people. But I don’t see any left-wing groups in the West protesting. Imagine if the tide changed in Ukraine and Ukraine went on the offensive and Russia was losing the war. I can almost guarantee they would start protesting as well. It’s so ridiculous and shameful. Like the horrors of that war can take you back to WWI or WWII. But they’d rather protest against Israel, probably because it’s easier. Another request for the future, if you ever have the time and feel inspired to do it, I would like you to make some videos on the Zionist movement as a whole parallel to Israel. Like the Soviets attempt at creating a Soviet state for the Jews, etc. Oh and one more thing and I apologize lol, you know the anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews that live in Iran or Russia etc. If you could expand on the differences, etc. Last thing would be the Hebrew language vs Yiddish, and the reason Israel chose to go with Hebrew. Very interesting and important topics. And tell us if you speak Hebrew or Yiddish or both etc and the evolution of the integration of the Hebrew language. That’s all for now lol. Best regards!
Ohh, ohh, can he do the one where the Jews butchered the Czar Nicholas and his entire family and then destroyed the faith of millions of Christians are starved out their peasant and farmer classes? That's my FAVORITE! You guys make your own beds, and then bitch when you have to lay in them? Wtf!? You created national socialism as a reaction to what you did in Russia. Likewise, same thing today. Now you want to trample the rights of Americans to have free speech? Tsh.
How did the juice end up on "Arab" land in the first place? The video tries to make it seem they were living side by side all along LOL! :D:D , They went there in numbers, they were considering Australia, Argentina or Palestine, according to 1893 doctrine. The British had acquired Palestine so they gave it to the juice. Once the juice came they declared indepenance 1 year later after they had driven 700,000 people out. They then proceeded to invade syria, egypt and lebanon.
What most people forget, and which I learned from a Congolese neighbour doing a master in history at my very anti-semitic university (well many students are openly anti-semitic so it makes the school unsafe for jews sometimes), is that the jews bought much of the land from the Arabs starting in the 1900s. The jews were mistreated everywhere, they knew at some point they needed to be the masters of their destiny. They wondered what will happen when everyone expels them. So, those who could started re-buying land in Israel, land which belonged to their ancestors but for the sake of legal purposes needed to be legally re-purchased. The interesting thing this neighbour told me is that this business of selling land was so profitable for these settler Arabs that they even went abroad to look for jewish buyers for their plots of land. Why? Obsession aside, the Palestinians have a country called Jordan. Israel is very small, insignificant in size compared to the gigantic Arab nations around it, these people who were selling this land were not having any issues buying new better lands in any of the surrounding countries.
Jews bought back ancestral homeland, but have not claimed it for Jews alone. Yes, the Jewish state of Israel provides a certain dominance, which ensures their religion a safe haven. The idea, that Arabs have a better claim to ruling this land, allowing them to expel, rape or massacre at will any other religion or ethnie is just outright evil. This idea is so evil, that we don't need to consider any outlandish claims about Canaanite identity or similar BS at all.
I am an Israeli guy originally from poland and germany , And now let’s talk about who owns the land , me or this Man whose grandfather planted an olive tree 800 hundred years ago and kept it as a family heritage ! I can’t believe it guys ..
People who read the Bible beginning from Genesis they know the land of Canaan which is Israel 🇮🇱 belongs by an Eternal Covenant between God and Abraham to the Jewish people for ever. Period. There are hundreds of prophecies about God restoring Israel and bringing them back from the four corners of the earth to their own land. If the ignorant university students don't like it let them complain to God. The land of Israel is their home for ever and ever and ever. Amen
OK! Where do I file the complaint to God? Come on, every person has its own beliefs, but what you believe doesn't rule on people and citing the Bible is not an admissible source, since it's just another book written by humans saying things for which there is no evidence. Written by God's inspiration? That can't and won't be determined. No one ever proved it, not even the mere existence of God. God's Chosen People? God's given right to the land of Caanan? Tons of BS!
@@hbentancor11 archeology is proving that a lot of the stories in the bible are true, plus it just says that if people talked already about this for thousands of years it means its a thing! Jews were there before the Christians and the Muslims, beat that please!
Oren, you need to do more to spread the truth. Why have you not appeared on more western media? Your voice can save the US right now we need you to help us
Please don’t feed into lies. A lot of the land bought was sold by people who didn’t live in the land and didn’t have actual claim to the land, like Britain.
The descendants of Judah are Jews, not "Judahites." And the ancient Israelites and Jews were not Canaanites. But the land of Canaan was promised to them by God.
@@valentinvasquez8999 Actually I am Egyptian . We fought you Yom Kepor and we got Sinai our land back. Now You are becoming war criminals to get more land.
@@Dr.LilianRamzy.pro-IDIsrael gave it back in exchange for peace. Israel gained that land because Egypt lost the war. So don't talk about Israel wanting more land they want peace
@@ScrambledEgg-q2l We love peace .. so no problem for us with peace But admit that we fought to get back our land and this is fully legitimate. Why shouldn't Palestinians fight to get back their land, at least the part that was not given to you by the UN. I do not accept the way Hamas killed civilians from your side, but I do not accept war crimes from your side neither.
Jew never stole land they gained land through military victory that they didn’t want the Arabs invaded them so they defended themselves. Also why has Israel given up over half of its land area in the pursuit of peace if all they want is to take Palestinian land. If that were true they would never have pulled out of Gaza in 2005 in pursuit of peace.
And yet again, the Palestinians started a war in the most brutal way imaginable and are now crying that they lose…. Do you seriously not see the problem with this? Israel literally gave them Gaza in 2005! And before you say “they gave it back to them” tell me at what point in history was Gaza ruled over by so called “Palestinians” rather than Egypt, Israel, and then the numerous empires who conquered it? Even napoleon conquered Gaza! Palestinians never ever ever had soveirgnity in history over the Gaza Strip until Israel gave it to them in 2005. It was not stolen then and it is not being stolen from them now. Only Arabs can complain about losing a war they started and then also call it colonization…. The Arabs are THE colonizers of the Middle East. You have been brainwashed to think otherwise.
He doesn't care about facts. He doesn't have to, he's on the winning side that writes the history books. He's just an ethnosupremacist, like most of his countrymen. He views Arabs as subhumans that don't belong on his promised land.
According to the Romans, "Palestine" was an adjective they created in 135 AD and meant "Enemy of the Jews" and it applied to anyone trying to remove the Israelites from Israel, after the Romans witnessed the fight Israel put up for 180 years at the time they created the word.
According to Chatgpt4o: The word "Palestina" comes from the Latin "Palaestina," which in turn has roots in the Greek "Παλαιστίνη" (Palaistínē). This term was used by the ancient Greeks and Romans to describe the region located between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. Originally, the name referred to the Philistines, a people who inhabited the southern coastal part of the region. The term was adopted by the Romans in the 2nd century AD, particularly after the Bar Kokhba revolt (132-135 AD), when Emperor Hadrian renamed the Roman province of Judea to "Syria Palaestina" in an attempt to eradicate the Jewish identity of the region. Since then, "Palestine" has been used to refer to this geographical area in various historical, cultural, and political contexts.
Precisely. “Palestinians” have bloodlines from other original Arab nations. “Palestine” was simply a catchall geographic reference to a land mass. That said, the people living there, born there, surely deserve a home. But the land was lost in a war against Israel, who was the victor. Losing indeed does not make you a victim. It behooves the huge, vast Arab nations to absorb their own people. The only reason Israel is seen as an occupier is ANTISEMITISM. Done. Fact.
I try to explain that when you start a war and lose, you lose your government, and you can lose your land. It's unfortunate for the people whose land was lost, but that's one of the consequences of starting a war.
@@ysinvangulik1004 Since WWII, military conquest is not a legitimate method of expanding territory. That is why the world has not recognized Russia's annexation of Crimea, and that is why Kuwait is not now part of Iraq. No country has been annexed by a foreign military power since WWII.
@@nocrtname You might be right. But what happens to a country that starts and loses a war? They have to pay reparations. If they can't afford to do that, then they have to pay with something. In this case, it's land.
Really? How many Arab settlement names are originally Jewish? Is it Jaffa or Yafo? Is it Urshalim or Yerushalaim? Is it Lud or Lod? etc. As one said in a great movie "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight" -or for you: don't start a history discussion without knowing your history
nice false islamic narrative almost all name doesn t exist in arabic name in history of in any map because all the map was never make by islam or islamic califat before more people love israel and understand islam want colonize the world and quit your genocidal religion when they reaLLy understand it because they don t want get coolonize by isLam what can you do with this crapy map did by an islamic peron in 1200 the only map made by islamic person doesnt mean anything because the land was mistaken wrote with not the real cartographic soo much error of drawing a disable person can make better even marocco is not the real name of this land its was invented by french or algeria its not arabic or lybia all frontiere existante and mapping was done by occidentaL personn
That’s funny, Israel has 16 cities and 77 municipalities. What is this 500 number?, also there’s not enough land within Israel, Westbank and Gaza to turn into forest. It is some of the most densely populated land in the world. If you’ve ever read a map, you will see that Palestinian towns and cities have Hebrew names. How is that possible? Hebron is named in the Torah many times, after 1947 all of the Jews were expelled and were never allowed back. Jews have been living there since forever. There has always been a Jewish presence within the land of Israel or what was known as Palestine, which was named as such after the Romans wanted to slap the Jews in the face and renamed Judea to Syria Palestina in 140 AD… even Gaza, is a biblical name. It is mentioned in the Torah, and is in fact pronounced “Azah” just like the Arabic pronunciation.
