Jessi on Why Kpop Stars Are Afraid To Be Themselves 

I don't understand your comment

It’s because she’s American.

Way more boundary breakers came before her

Yes, she really did, I love when people stand for self and and say what makes them real and true to self, I've love this about her, and she is a genuine person to life, God will bless her for that. And if she's w you she's w you whole heartedly, and if something is wrong she don't hold back she tells you. All people should be like JESSI, and me. But we are a rare people. People show fear too much way to much, and God says fear NOONE, nor fear anything as well.😊❤ So yes I love this beautiful lady for who she is Amen🙏🇺🇸💯👑she had been Queen forever just as I have. 🙏 You've got to love JESSI, she's what I call a STRONG LADY INDEED and a true ICON❤❤❤❤❤😊🇺🇸🙏👑👑👑

She should make good music first, that's why fans are here in the first place, others can come after

omg yes man, whenever I run into the more traditional variety Korean shows I can't help but cringe at the things they do and how the artists have to fall in line

I stop watching that show when Jessie got replaced, I dont hate sunmi, it's just not the same as good as Jessie

Yess, I don't have anything against Sunmi but ever since she took over, it just felt like another korean talk show 😕

I also think she’s just more comfortable talking in English. I feel like she’s able to express her opinions and thought.

man showterview got so damn boring after they sacked her. I tried watching with Sunmi, but maaaaaan the hole jessi left is too big to fill @@greosera6101

I thought it was pretty obvious. Asian in Asia are all about saving face.

THIS !

This needs to be pinned fr

I agree i mean even before, the concept of being an idol (coming from japanese culture) is that you have to be consistently desired as pure or like innocent which is wack now since nobody even think that's genuine nor realistic. I'd still like them to be respectful but not act as like they're robots

On the last part tho that pressure really should be on the management team, e.g stylists to know the significance of the clothes they're wearing because at the end of the day they had to look it up to get it. In terms of the chaeyoung incident however I would say she is accountable and not the management necessarily. Tbh if they want to enter a global market, they'll have to be aware of cultures they take their inspiration from in a way that won't offend them. It's not easy but it must be done

You can tell that her answer here had to be well calculated. She can answer that question in 10 seconds, but even she cannot let it all out. The answer is that fans hold all the power. If they don't like what you did or said as an idol, you're done with. Idols are an investment for a company. You screw it up, you screw up the company investment. You have a lot of people to answer to. The answer is obvious and Jessi knows it. I absolutely Love her BTW.

No one cares

Very very sad but true..

Probably more so because if they show themselves people will send them death threats. A lot of them do show themselves more on livestreams with fans but at award shows people who aren't fans will trash them for even breathing next to the artist they are a fan of.

Truth, that is why the suicide rate is so high in Korea.

i'm still surprised many kpop fans don't understand that what the idols show mostly it's an image, not really themselves and their real personality

its also bc she didnt "hit big" fast. she struggled a lot. nowadays theres idols who get an award first week or something. ofc its different for small companies!

She debuted im 2005, things back then were crazier her company was shady, she couldn't fit in as fast as she can. Jessi left Korea twice because she gave up but in the end she come back because she couldnt let go of her dreams. Even when her debut as Jessica H.O did fairly well, it wasn't sustainable. Her era and the current era are really differrent. But the system might not have changed that much. Most idols debuted with debt, because company sees their investment as debt so if you debuted and things go well fast you can pay those and get paid, but there are cases where some need 2 - 3 years even longer to get paid. People clown on big companies idols but young people go there because the welfare systems are better, and in some cases they debut with no debt because the company didn't count the investment (dorm, clothes, food, allowances) as a money these trainees need to return. So if they leave, they didn't ask for it back. At least this is how YG operates.

Unless you are SUPER POPULAR continuously, kpop stars don't get much money.

@@wasabi.2839 yeah or don’t get money at all. Half of the groups I’ve stanned didn’t get paid until now or still have yet to be paid

@@gwenmloveskpopcecmorewhich groups

She have like 7 surgeries 😂

@@matthewlyn9224 you're so cringe i can't ...you know she was talking about jessie's PERSONALITY which is the most important part of her..no one talked about surgeries here

​@matthewlyn9224 like having had surgeries changes you as a human being...? be for fucking real. everyone gets surgeries these days and it does not affect who they are as a person or whether they are worthy of good things or not

​@@matthewlyn9224she has 7 surgeries yet she is more real personality wise than all your faves combined. Let that sink in 🥰

​​@@matthewlyn9224why are you crying? did you pay for her surgeries? If you think your idols did not do anything to their face or body just because they said so then you're delusional for believing a lie. Fck off

Understandable, it's a complex topic

Eww

Unfortunately true

Totally agree. I'd rather support an artist/idol with good character. So I can see why kpop is so conserved. But I don't want that idol/artist to feel as if they can't ever make a mistake or have a constructive critical opinion. I mean...we all "humans," for God's sake. 😇😯😯😁😁

Jessi is biting the hand who feeds her. She is popular because korean entertainment gave her a chance. Only thing now she is gonna get is more criticism from korean society. If she can't follow Korean culture why is she staying in Korea. She should go to America. She has always been American person and she will be never be a Korean woman. She is a shameless and bad person. And Korea will never change. Korea will become more conservative and greater. And Korean Government is doing the right thing. Korea will always be a country which has cultural, religious and human values.

It’s interesting, because pop as a genre of music is supposed to give you a break from the conservative world, into a world of passion and fantasy. I think that may be why there is so much tension in the k-pop industry. That and it’s just not as flush with cash as American pop music.

Not as exhausting as it is to constantly get hate for being yourself

But if you really think about it, it’s safer for them to have a boundary like that. Every single idol/influencer who has been too close and real with fans have regretted their decisions. A lot of the idols who used to do lives so frequently with fans have stopped out of their own wish. Pretty much all celebs and influencers in the west are getting praised for being “real” one second then brutally canceled the next.,.

@@Fartsquad_ understandable. there’s pros and cons to it and I do think setting boundaries is healthy. what’s more unhealthy is how the public can react (depends on the context too) but no one has control over that.

you really think western celebrities are being 'authentic'?

well they have more freedom to do whatever tf they want and to be themselves. Tbh, i think the realest is doja cat. Im pretty sure a bunch of famous people dislike their fans bc theyre annoying af and im glad doja was being honest and not feeding into their delusion@@bofuthereturn

@@bofuthereturna lot more in comparison

You forgot some members of NCT too, most of the time they don’t really give a fuck and be themselves

That's why I could never be an idol I don't wanna be damn near 30 years old and expected to act all childlike and cute all the time I'd rather be myself and I know if I couldn't handle that shit I know those idols are sick of it too and guess what I don't blame them I love this transformation of more idols breaking out of these manufactured standards and finally being who they are no matter how much hate they get for it.

@@daniellegathings7651 Exactly

@@miyagriffin9673 Yh I don't want Koreaboos telling me how an Asian or kpop idol should actually. "She's overly sexualizing herself, look what she wore! She's a pick me ! She's an attention seeker". Only Koreaboos and kids got a problem with todays kpop idols.

@@lolmfs Totally agree the problem with alot of these koreaboos and kpop stan kids is their reality of the world outside of them is so narrow minded they base their views on certain countries based on kpop Asian dramas animes etc so anytime they talk about the image of kpop its always something stereotypipic these kids came along and started stanning kpop around the late 3rd and early 4th generation and thats the only era they focus on or even care about they fail to even do their research on previous generations to get a feel of what kpop was like before their faves came along in the game because if they did they would know that the shit their faves are doing now their elders did before them they walked so that the new generation can run the only difference is this new generation come from a different time where standing out is becoming a new norm the older generation just had to blend in the background which are the issues that are being addressed now and now 3rd generation idols are coming into a new era where they're getting older their mark has been made in the industry but their generation is becoming a thing in the past because there's new generations coming after them so their reinventing to be their authentic selves and growing up along with their OG fanbase in order to still be able to market so it bothers me to see them getting hate for standing out and being their trueselves and embracing their adulthood I'm in the same age group as alot of these idols you've listed so I get exactly how they feel being overly infantilized and policed for my personal life choices would annoy me to the core.

The definition of IVE pretty much

@@luffypirateking1068lmao goes for every kpop group

​@@luffypirateking1068stop bringing ive into everything.

@@16016__tart I actually like IVE, I just wish they could be themselves more and act freely

@@luffypirateking1068 they'll get so much hate if they'll act like "themselves." it'll be 10 times worse than now. do you even know them? what if they are acting like themselves right now? you shouldn't assume everything about them. just let them be. (p.s pls do correct me if im wrong about something ;;)

I could swear she claims to be a NYC girl but okay For the girls commenting she’s from Jersey….NO SHIT! I said “claims” 🙋🏾‍♂️

she’s from jersey lol

@@animetwilight75 maybe Jessi spent more time on the other coast as an adult... next thing you know people will be ok about telling how they are mean tuckers from the get-go🥰

Everyone in America says like a bunch this honestly. It's everywhere!

Isn’t she from New Jersey why she talking like a valley girl

I love burlesque and watched her clips and love it 😂 what's wrong with it lol. it's really conservative there..

Oh noooooo too dangerous 😅

I'm 1 month late but, couldn't agree more. I'm a huge fan of him and ZB1 cuz they're being real and honest with their feelings and being themselves. 💙💙

if you grew up and were a part of South Korean society you wouldn't know any different - in fact you'd probably find the relative freedom in the west quite scary indeed. It's not like the west is perfect in comparison - we have a whole load of problems with our society as well.

Lisa situation is kind of like Mileyy cyrus

True although the brands arent leaving her

Nah, it's not accurate. There is no logical pattern to the weird treatment of Lisa. Lisa has been getting hate in South Korea since her debut - basically for existing and breathing. And the recent "backlash" was clearly manufactured by YG to create an impression China banned her (when it was YG which cancelled her Weibo account). The brands are VERY supportive of Lisa and are NOT leaving her. She, on the other hand, is leaving YG. LOL

They still gonna hate her even she do solo haters are jobless they always watch your steps but if male idol do sexy showing abs They praised male idol the double standard what ever lisa do haters find something to hate her😂😂😂coz 90% of kpop fans are childish kids not a grown up ass so they don’t care about idol being themselves or do new stuff not even interacting with other idols😂😂😂

same with jennie. Everyone was like " im so disappointed in her" and not for starring in a terrible show, but for dancing sexy and showing skin like bruh she is a grown woman

Maybe one day. Right now she signed under another agency after trying to just manage herself and learning she's not ready for that, let alone managing other artists.

This is where Jessi would thrive

I wish

she was herself during her "kpop idol" days (debut) but koreans didnt love her for it lolol thats why it took her looooong for it to change.. i think its this generation

Is it "bad" promoting just people who are able to behave and follow rules? Is it bad that celebrities that do bad things/illegal things loose their very public careers?

Yes and apparently being in a relationship is considered "scandalous" to them. Being in love is scandalous.

@@ashleyspurling5701 It's like that one person from RIIZE who's been getting nonstop hate after it was leaked that he had a gf before he became a trainee which is dumb.

this goes far beyond "bad things" and "illegal things" and you goddamn know that - what K-Pop idols get criticized for these days in nothing short of insane things like INTERACTING WITH AN IDOL OF THE OPPOSITE GENDER - blame the fans, they are the worst and why K-Pop will forever have a negative image to fans of other music genres@@Mizwanderer1989

You all want to bring western woke garbage, that's why we gotta stand alert.

It's a conversative country - in a lot of ways, this is a very beneficial societal model, for example families will be much more encouraged/expected to stay together which means less divorce rates - if too high, leads to a very weak society (something which is a huge problem in the west, and the west is becoming MUCH weaker because of it). We have an extremely selfish attitude here in the west, which will no doubt create a lot of problems in the future. On the flipside, there are clearly restrictions upon your behaviour as a result of being a conversative society, but these restrictions while often rigid, are often quite sensible and prevent people from doing stupid things. But yes, very different.

@@keepitsecret-dl1prin korea divorce rate is as high as in the west btw

​@@keepitsecret-dl1pr 'conservative'? Yet kpop idols on TV shows are wearing short skirts, crop tops, short dresses etc. This is not conservative

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You don't know that. Lol naive

​@@8luvbug oh boy, sounds like you're not a dreamcatcher fan because im telling you the girls in dreamcatcher are fucking wild, there's very clear difference on how they act compare to most other girlgroups Insomnias know how real they are with themselves,non-fans can say what yall want but yall will never understand the bond dreamcatcher has with their fans to actually show their real self

@@Henry_44 Again you don't know them personally to say if they're real or not. Be blissfully naive I guess

@@melanie_pamela97 yall can say whatever yall want but still wrong, dreamcatcher company aren't even like most kpop company, they're as real as they can be on camera

Thiss

True. Pretty sure immodest clothing goes against the preferences of conservative standards?

conservative is a range and mindset, not just about clothes. And they still get shamed. Also many idols seem to not like showing their bodies, but they're just put in the clothes. I've seen tons of idols show discomfort with their outfits.

My guess would be because it appeals to a wider western audience - but then outside of their attire and choreography, idols are still expected to maintain a certain 'image' (not just physically, mind you) that represents South Korea in a good way. I think you see this less and less the older they get, though.

Linguistics definitely is a huge factor in all this. We don't change very much about our dialogue around seniors, juniors, women, men, the way Koreans do. That shit is hard-coded in them. Now we're in the age where idols are debuting younger and younger, I feel this dynamic between idols and fans is SO uncannily similar to kids being forced to walk up to their aunts and uncles to hug and kiss them, you know? The implications are so disgusting. They're going into debt; selling their images, and in this economy, they're willing to go through any and all abuse for the sake of their family, who are none the wiser. The culture needs to change, and the parasocial loser stans need to get a grip on their own lives.

There's nothing wholesome and innocent about kpop lmao. Part of it is very s3xual and the other part is just creepy af because it's teenagers and adults behaving like little kids. Kpop in general is very weird and creepy. I don't know what your friends are on.

Did you forget that Jessi had a career before said black kpop idol?

Jessi having a career before the black kpop idol means nothing in terms of fans choosing to give attention or not. There’s plenty of newer artists who eclipse her in popularity. Op brings up a very good point of how kpop is basically repackaged hip hop aesthetics mixed w pop/edm that kpop fans will ignore or actively hate on the originators, but praise the Asian gentrified version cuz it’s their faves

@ i think you missed the point, kpop has elements of hip-hop and black culture. everything on the earth is inspired from not stolen. Popularity isn't picken and chooses. What Op talks about does not even relate to the video at all and is very untrue and contradicting. One isn't in the right state of mind while making a hate comment out of impluse because what is Op trying to say in this context