People need to be patient. These carriers are to last half a century. There'll be plenty of time for full and independent air wings. Currently the Queen Elizabeth and her crew are gaining experience in all weather conditions. Interoperability with the Americans is important for Britain and the Royal Navy is just quietly and professionally going about its business. Tomorrow always comes, and both carriers will have a full fleet air arm before long. Long service life ahead. 2 exceptional carriers
There is VERY good news on this issue. First, yes Lockheed been slow to deliver. However, the plans were for a total of 48 F35b's in total. So, they could/would field up to 36 on board. The rest were spares and for training back home. However in June 2021, they now announced that they will get enough F35's to field both ships. That means they are now looking at having 80 F35b's.
That is a nice short short video. Rain at sea? No problem, we have warm tea waiting for you when you get back. That ship layout is REALLY nice. the deck control and traffic light board system is REALLLY nice, since then all crews on decks don't need radios - and they know what is going on. (you can JUST see the corner of this board at 1:24 second mark in the upper right of the video. i don't know if guest journalists were on board, but the top of the sign board says: *_Welcome to HSM Queen Elizabeth_* so it kind of like a airport arrivals and departures board. Really a slick addition to the ship. I also note that once you send ONE jet down the decks, the water is swept off quite nice, and jets that follow don't produce as much spray/mist. This ship is a class act all the way. Well done! Hugs and greetings from Canada!
Cant wait till you get some carriers! We appreciate your admiration of the queen Elizabeth class, it truly is a step forward for the Royal Navy. Hopefully you guys build some formidable carries so we can sail with you! Would be an amazing sight.
@@xflushestmean93x54 And VERY interesting looking at that way cool departure board? You see a set of jet "departures" (4 of them) at 1 minute apart. Folks don't realize that launch rate is VERY high! - and they are JUST doing some CAP sorties. This is peace time - low launch rates. Don't think 1 jet launch per minute is fast? (and in peace time?). They are just tooling around right now. But, it takes 2 catapults in FULL operation will full crews at max launch rate to equal 1 jet launched per minute. The calm, the lack of "commotion" on the decks is a huge tell tell sign here. Want to see how long it takes to launch ONE jet with a catapult? Watch this: (ONE jet hookup and launch = 120 seconds (2 minutes) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cWOpDItw1iI.html So the HMS q without trying, without large crews is launching 1 jet per minute, and they are drinking tea while doing this. Yes, that is VERY impressive. They can crank that up to 2 per minute, and even 4 per minute if they want. (at 4 per minute, you now equal to 4 full catapults in operation). As for Canada? Geesh - we waffling on buying F35's, and thus in the meantime are keeping our CF18's flying by purchasing used F18's from Australia (which has gone with F35's also). However, to me it not ONLY that Britain is fielding that carrier - but how absolute amazing the setup is. From that cool departure board? From the very big wide decks? From the automated on computer demand robot system that brings weapons to the decks? From the twin towers (one for air traffic and fighter operations, and the other for control and sailing of the ship). This list goes on and on. There is a crap load of innovation , technology and new ideas on this ship. It is smart, slick, and like I said, a real class act of a ship. - most readers have no idea how incredible that ship is. South Korea now has hired the firm that designed the HMS Q, and they will now build a very similar carrier based on all these new ideas and innovations from Britain.
The QE class are definitely a really potent set of carriers. It will be interesting to see if any other countries operating the F-35 would look at the same type of STOVL carrier for an F35b air wing.
@@MrSloon I do think this is what India should have gone with. So far? UK, Italy, USA - all with ships running the F35b Japan. Just this month, first time in 75 years that a ship seen a fighter launched from a ship (f35b). So Japan will soon join this list of nations running the F35b South Korea as noted, they are also in the process of building a ship running F35b's. Spain currently runs a ship with Harriers, but I expect them to adopt F35b's over time. Looking at the list of nations currently, or soon will be running F35b's from their ship decks? There are more nations that will run F35b's now then nations with catapult launched jets. So, yes, not only is this occurring, but the list is growing.
Not to mention that the carrier has to have a "wind over deck" of at least 30kts to lower the landing/takeoff speeds of the aircraft, so not only does your daughter get soaked, but she does so while standing in a 30-40kt wind!
@fuckyoutubepolicy staff When a PM of Canada starts lecturing the public about the need to say "peoplekind" instead of mankind then you know you're in trouble.
Looks good. They're definitely getting better. Maybe its an unrealistic prospect but i'd like to see how fast they can launch every jet on board, like a real worst case scenario exercise...
Same here. Maybe they just don't want to advertise how many they can at the moment. Plus it's hardly the full complement of f-35 that's it's designed for.
Here you go. "The maximum sortie rate is 110 joint combat aircraft sorties in 24 hours." "The maximum launch rate is 24 aircraft in 15 minutes and the maximum recovery rate is 24 aircraft in 24 minutes." If she had a CATOBAR she would be closer to this: "The Navy designed CVN-78 to increase the sortie generation capability of embarked aircraft to 160 sorties per day (12-hour fly day) and to surge to 270 sorties per day (24-hour fly day) as compared to the CVN-68 Nimitz class sortie generation rate demonstration of 120 sorties per day/240 sorties for 24-hour surge. " " The flight deck measures 333m x 77m and is equipped with four lifts, four steam-driven catapults and four arrester wires. The carrier is capable of launching one aircraft every 20 seconds. The NIMITZ-class carriers are a floating airport, capable of launching as many as four aircraft a minute. The ship's four catapults and four arresting gear engines enable her to launch and recover aircraft rapidly and simultaneously."
@@ThatCarGuy What a load of trollop. The QE can actually launch MORE sorties in any given 24 hours than any Ford class ship. You simply stated the normal maximum for the QE, as if that were the surge rate. The Surge rate for the QE class is actually higher than for the American carriers due to no requirements to reset a steam/magnetic stopping system for every single aircraft. Plus unlike either the Ford or Nimitz class the QE can actually launch aircraft whilst landing at the same time, something which is IMPOSSIBLE on a catobar/EMALS system. Plus in any given 24 hours the launch system on a conventional catobar/EMALS carrier is out of service for a minimum of 1.5 hours out of every 12 hours for safety inspections, and maintenance. Something the QE doesn't have to bother with. So methinks you honestly haven't a clue about that which you are commenting on.
My father was on HMS Indomitable. It was hit by a Kamakaze near Okinawa and 1 hour later was operational again. I wonder what would happen with The QE if the same happened.
Yeah they were performing a short take off, that flap is the intake for the big lift fan, it helps suck air into it and give some vertical lift. It's hard to tell, but the rear nozzle is also at a 45 degree angle. Combined with the Ski-Jump, this means they can take off with a full fuel and weapons payload using only a fraction of the deck.
Bet the pilots can do this taking off and landing business while drinking a cuppa tea now. I Remember at the very beginning of sea trials, you could almost feel the nervous tension with every takeoff, but now it looks so smooth, like a well oiled machine 🇬🇧🇺🇲
ofcourse 100 mil plane 3.5bil ship both brand new to RN to mention the equipment and platform there on is the cornerstone of uk military might a wrong move like crashing to the carrier will cause unimaginable damage to uk military capability.
Yes, without question we see a rather comfort level starting to take hold. This is why you MUST run the ship, air crews, and work out how this all works. It took huge efforts and a long time to reach this point in time. But, yes, they sure make this look easy now.
Interesting that the RAF Lightnings are flying with ASRAAMs (and presumably 2 or 4 AMRAAM internally). Both RAF and USMC Lightnings have Luneberg reflectors installed too.
@@TT-hd3zi The A and C models can carry 4 internally ... so the B is limited to just 2? LM has developed Sidekick to increase this to 6 for the A/C model.
Interesting...seeing the deliberate check of the handlers and their gear. Is the RN operating their flight ops at a limited tempo, doing the crawl-walk-run steps of flight operations and deck handling? I don't recall reading/seeing if the embarked air wing has exercised a full strike mission-set or, achieved its peak cyclic operations.
I believe they are still doing shakedowns and have a bit more to go. However I have every confidence in our Royal Navy cousins. Saw a video not long ago with the Royal Navy, U.S. navy and the Japanese Self Defence Force conducting ops in the China Sea. Two U.S. carrier groups with the Queen Elizabeth and the Idzumo( I believe) carrier groups. Most impressive and I can think of no better allies to sail with. 🙂
@Emrys With you all the way but don't forget the F-35 was an international project (with the US the majority stakeholder) with the UK providing around 15% of the parts. A win-win for all involved
@@jeff5534 I totally agree with your reply, that's why I said "I'm talking crap" but I still think they looked great on a carrier. Time moves on, as they say
This is where the lift fan is on the F35B variant. It's a flap that opens up when the plane is in STOVL mode. There are also little doors on the underside that open up for the outtake.
I remember the First time I had deck, chain duty, in stormy seas. You had to tie your end to the pad eye...and yes green water over the bow.I also remember the First time I saw a sailor swept overboard...
Didn't have the MW to power it. QE makes about 120MW, 80MW go to power her electric engines, the rest to power her radars, sonars, lights, etc. EMALS would have taken 60MW, which she just doesnt have. Hence even the US is having issues storing that power in banks. So no E2 early warning or equivalent, or offensive drones, can take off from the QE leaving her with helicopters for early warnings which have less range and less MW to power larger/longer range radars. The QE was built more like a LHD anyway and it's to be expected. "The challenge is scaling a relatively new technology to handle the required weights and power. EMALS motor generator weighs over 80,000 pounds, and is 13.5 feet long, almost 11 feet wide and almost 7 feet tall. It’s designed to deliver up to 60 megajoules of electricity, and 60 megawatts at its peak. In the 3 seconds it takes to launch a Navy aircraft, that amount of power could handle 12,000 homes. This motor generator is part of a suite of equipment called the Energy Storage Subsystem, which includes the motor generator, the generator control tower and the stored energy exciter power supply. The new Gerald R. Ford Class carriers will require 12 of each."
@@daytona1965 Can't do steam since it isn't nuclear, which only left EMALS, and while in the future the QE class could possibly be designed for EMALS if they decide to make more QE carriers as I have no idea where they would put all the power banks on the active ships now, but it's still a possibility.
@@daytona1965 nothing like what that car guy has said. QE has the power generation for Emals. It didn't go that way for a combination of reasons including it not being ready, it being more expensive and the Royal Navy being used to STOVL from Harriers and happy with it. It would also have been possible to to run steam catapults but they would have required additional steam generator (though it would have ment extra cost and space usage) but steam has heavy wear on aircraft due to high forces at the start of launch unlike Emals even force.
Keep it up UK. Can't wait for you to get full squadrons and air wings of F35s. Hope to see more QE class carriers and more CSGs. Hope you beat China to the punch on nuclear carriers, keep up the good work rebuilding your navy. Hope to see you more and more in the Taiwan strait.
@@kyleshaw1914 Hope to see the US pump out the F35b's faster. I dont even think the US expected this many F35 orders since production is coming out so slow and nations are only getting partial orders.
It's only fair that the Admiral Kuznetsov starts launching J-15s and SU-33s off the coast of the United States west coast. Just to keep peace in the region.
Why? Who’s threatening sea lanes and militarising shoals off the US West Coast? ps it’d be only fair IF the Soviet (sorry Russian, it’s kinda hard to tell the difference with Vlad in charge) carrier could make it that far
Kuznetsov hasn't sailed since 2017 and won't return to sea until 2023 at the earliest, sweetheart. Why would the Russians be flying the J-15 which is a Chicom copy of their Su-33?
@Truth is a bannable offence STOP PRESS Story re-write - I saw the crew around a third US jet but missed the jump to the UK jet. So, 2 US jets and a UK jet take off from a carrier (upon which UK jets are still outnumbered). I still don't get why the RAF only have 18 F35's so far, when with two carriers soon to be operable there ought to be more than nine planes per carrier.
@Truth is a bannable offence We have bought more. They haven't been built yet. Some are in the US, some are used from training the pilots in UK and some are being used to work up Prince of Wales.
@Truth is a bannable offence 3 are early models which will remain in the US as part of a pool of development aircraft. The RAF are still training new pilots hence 10 stayed behind in the U.K. , plus of course 4 were recently used on the Prince of Wales to qualify both the ship and pilots. I believe 3 more will be delivered this year and 6 next year.
Need more fighter planes on deck RN new carrier look the business fine looking carrier can see negative comments coming on desk for stupid comments 🇬🇧should be proud to fine carrier in the fleet
Western navies sailed to asian waters from 1500 onwards to colonise asia portugal colonised goa malacca macau formosa (taiwan) netherlands colonised indonesia france colonised vietnam cambodia laos britain colonised india sri lanka myanmar malaya borneo hongkong singapore and stole the lands of australia, new zealand from native peoples america colonised diego garcia guam philippines and it’s military still occupy korea, japan 76 years after ww 2. 2021 the colonialist navies are back in asian waters.
It's okay today we are friends, also today eastern nations are powerful and can't be taken over by anybody. Example, India at that time was fighting civil war between Mughals and Mrathas but today its a strong one country
I'm still glad no one was able to find out that I was spying inside that ship, it's been months now and they're still oblivious on what my role in the flight deck.
This is condition where Indian Navy operate its aircraft carrier & if there is one nation which is very important for these sustained pre-emptive or counter-offensive attack against CCP then its India..
Truth is we couldn’t afford to buy carrier and aircraft at the same time which is why there are no UK 🇬🇧 aircraft on board. HMG needs to go rooting down the back of the sofa for pound coins every time it has a major procurement programme.
"which is why there are no UK 🇬🇧 aircraft on board"(sic) 8, originally, from RAF 617 Squadron at Marham. 10 from VMFA-211. Not to mention the 10 Royal Navy rotary wing platforms from 820 NAS and 845 NAS.
Yeh that’s why the PRC are piling huge resources into building a knock off of the Gerard Ford class, because it’s completely obsolete and useless. If they were so confident in being able to one shot carriers why build their own?
@@DaRovmeister Yes, although joint operations will likely remain a common occurrence.. At the time of the deployment's start Britain had so far received roughly 20 F35b's, some were needed for pilot training & gaining HMS Prince of Wales certification for the F35b's as well..
Only Britain could spend billions on two aircraft carriers then realise they don't have any jets to fly from them. Totally embarrassing. If the navy decide to take it into the black sea close to Crimea it'll end up as a beautiful divers site full of coral and fish lol 😂
@@stableianF1oracle The aircraft taking off at 1:17 is RAF. The UK has around 21 F-35 right now, there's a mixture of US and UK aboard HMS Queen Elizabeth, with the rest of the UK F-35 either being used for training new pilots or on trials aboard HMS Prince of Wales. They have more on order, but delivery is just slow right now.
@@Benjd0 18 are based at RAF Marham which indicates they are the F35A not B. So I'll apologise and we have 1.5 F35Bs for each aircraft carrier. That should be ok to take on China lol 😂
@@stableianF1oracle Britain hasn't ordered any F-35A's, they are all F-35B's. It was always the plan to have a mixed force of American and British jets on the carriers until more aircraft are delivered to the UK.
@@sausage5876 Aircraft are being delivered to the UK per schedule. Belly up to the bar and write the check if you want more. Has the UK requested any tail swaps yet?
You should know by now peoples motives. The aim is to bash Britain and call you all racist, colonizers and everything else. Because of jealousy and because of media telling them what monsters you are. We have the opposite feeling here in Hong Kong and Taiwan - and for the politically driven; its interesting don't you think that for such 'right wing supremacists'; its the centre left leaning parties here that value you as friends the most. We know enough about this deployment. It's a demonstration of unity and combined service capability. This means that one of the overall 'displays' you will see is the interoperability between US/UK/Japanese and partner carriers. Japanese carriers has been modified to support and launch/recover the f-35 as well. I have been to the home of the 7th fleet to see Japan confirm this, regardless of the news. As this expands to other allied platforms; you will see the advantage of common purpose alliance. It is as much a threat to would be adversaries, if not more so than the equipment itself. Being able to easily co-ordinate across language divides and ways of operating; more 'firepower' almost than the ships themselves. So you should think clearly instead of looking to shoehorn an agenda. For decades we have been murdered and oppressed by the CCP. For their economic ambition, lack of morality and more - they are held back only by their generals. Who are rightfully fearful of what the greatest powers of the former golden age of empires are capable of. Most of you know this already. I certainly do and I am just a little girl far away. I suggest you reflect more on the common purpose of the mission. What could be lost in any third world war and what the RN and their allies have come to our shores to protect. Taiwan produces a large volume of global electronics. If it falls, you lose a large step in the new hypersonic arms race. To grant that to a power that operates concentration camps and beats people into submission, as it once did my own family. Very reminiscent of the 1930s yes? And the nigh 100 million lives eventually lost over that entire period around the world. You cannot begin to fathom the reality to which the Royal Navy, its partners and allies are holding back. So whilst you may wish to bash, or even attack Boris Johnson and others for retaining 'trade' with China; you should know too - that what is said politically and done; is to prevent the spark that lights the fuse. To keep friends close and enemies closer; remains true today as it was yesterday. Many cite the Elizabeth to be the best ship they have sailed on. A good footprint. Efficient. Able to support next generation jets. It is a current gold standard. Not without flaw - but for the price, projection value and power ratio; excellent. The power, like with all things; is combined arms. Working with its strike group. That a US flag is aboard and everyone is smiling as friends; should bring you comfort. It can so easily be lost. Perhaps then show them the respect due.
@@stableianF1oracle it’s surrounded by the type45 destroyer the worlds best anti air destroyer plus frigates design to counter enemy subs and ships so it’s incredibly safe plus both uk and usa are currently designing countermeasures against hypersonic plus there own hypersonic missiles to send back
@@stableianF1oracle so you don't just mean 'a' war you mean war against another major nuclear power, something we've never had and risk the end if civilisation.
@@Ukfairgrounds Tell me you're joking ... Time and time again Russian and Chinese jets buzz these aircraft carriers and support ships. It's only in James bond movies that every missile fired gets knocked out. The US have to put about 20 other vessels around their carriers ... Britain doesn't have enough ships to sit either side of it lol 😂
Instead of wasting 10 billion on these soon to be wrecks on the sea bed we should have bought small patrol boats to flatten the dinghy's in the English channel. 😃
