Fu Xuan is the only sustain that doesn't feel bad when playing on trend tbh, maybe because most of her sustain comes from her dmg mitigation/reduction and not her base stats. Edit: Someone has pointed out some mistakes i did in the silver wolf run, it could be 40-50 AV faster.
@@cornflakebutsilly I guess it would be beyond broken if trend still works with JQ on the team since that'll consider getting 2 stack in one enemy turn if the enemy attacks the sustainer while JQ ult is active
@@christophermauro-barias7451 jiaoqiu vs sw it's a really great upgrade (st vs aoe debuff) pela Vs jiaoqiu exist only for who have acheron e2. Who have acheron e1 or e0 jiaoqiu vs sw
That is quite significant clear 'time' JQ, galla 1800 points while SW, FX barely got 3 stars with 1632 points. But I thinks its fair to highlight how potent Galla breaking power is. 1st team break Cocolia's toughness even before gepard got the 2nd turn to put up his shield. 0:48 - 0:57 The guy took 1/3 of Cocolia's toughness by himself 😅 That makes a huge different.
jst wnna say appreciate all u do!! the comments here are so unecessarily mean but u take it in stride and respond so well to it, hope u know u have someone who appreciates ur content!! tysm for these vidss
@@Dogz271 bootMid ended AbortionXiao in her own MOC btw also the fact you keep saying MidQiu while he simultaneously ends silverfad in every metric just means she’s not even mid anymore she’s just objectively bad 🤣🤣🤣
Jiaoqiu is gonna make Acheron even more of a monster in Pure Fiction. He's a big upgrade for those who don't have Acheron's signature simply because of the amount of debuffs he applies in a single cycle
Funny how it’s silently acknowledged by all that pela is just too good and she’s not gonna get benched, at least not until a proper 5 star pela comes around.
in calculations jiaoqiu is actually better than pela, however you would only bench her if you have e2 acheron because then you can use sparkle+jq, otherwise at e0 pela+jq is the bis team
Ayo?! The first team cleared 98AV faster than my E2S1 Acheron with DoTcheron team? With E0S0 Acheron?! Nah you're really telling me Jiaoqiu is actually good? Edit: For context, my Acheron has an effective 94/260 ratio and 3800 ATK in battle; E1 Kafka with 4k ATK 138 SPD; Swan 3.6k ATK, 158 SPD and 118% EHR. So nothing to scoff about build wise, as sustain i ran a 150 SPD Gallagher too and optimized the rotation as best as i could to get 3702 pts. TL:DR, Jiaoqiu might actually be him
@@alexleonard2348 well i did know he was an improvement, it's that is still hard to realize since he's not on live servers. I'm honestly curious to see how it will end up
Acheron DoT is only BiS for AoE, for Moc and ST it is better to run 2 ampers than 2 subdps'. Also, E2 is a useless Eidolon if you use Acheron with 2 nihilities, like, it literaly does nothing(the +1 Energy will rarely matter), so basicaly you were using a E1S1 acheron in a normal team.
@@BailuGaming using DoTcheron on Cocolia side of AS helps eating through her thoughness bar, wich is the main point on AS to begin with. Without Kafka/Swan, using Pela and Bronya (in my case since i don't have SW) would've resulted in an even lower score. I know DoTcheron is a disfunctional team, but there are instances like this AS and PF where it's her best comp by a mile
Acheron with Jiaoqiu here actually deals the same amount as mine with SW and Pela... My Acheron has an s1, 80/200 Crit Ratio, and 4114 ATK btw. Jiaoqiu is looking to be rly nice.
Cause incels throw a temper tantrum when a man is on their screen. You may think this is a joke but genuinely the Acheron mains subreddit screamed and cried when he was confirmed to be male.
@@FknRaccoon I know there are people like that but there was also people disappointed because after learning about a pinky foxian, were expecting the Yae Miko/Sakura expy.
And I’m assuming jq + pela is stronger than sw+pela, meaning no matter if you want to play sw or want to play pela, jq is always gonna be the first nihility you want on the team
Yep, that's the gameplan. Both Pela and SW just become flex for Acheron once you have JQ. Pela for general use, SW for ST heavy situations (such as AS and some MoC stages).
Pulled Topaz to replace SW in FuA and to stop using Guin for Acheron…… Pulling Jiaoqiu (‘cuz Kazuha) who”s gonna replace SW….. Quantum is truly the most powercrept element in history.
To all of the doom posters out their. If you need to fight with people about how "shit" a unit is, you've already lost the argument. Because there's no such thing as an "objective truth" when it comes to who is worth pulling. That can only be made on an individual level and what players want to make the game more fun for them. The only reason you would think otherwise is if you let the "meta" rot your brain enough that you're entitled enough to think that only your opinion matters. Which is why I think people that focus too much on meta are only ruining the game for themselves. Especially since if a gacha game needs "meta" units to be fun, that that's a bad game to begin with.
Jiaoqiu is stronger, but he will never be a substitute for sw, true sw simps don't give a shit about meta. They will invest on sw eidolons instead of getting the fox, that's for sure
imo jiaoqiu is one of my favorites cause it makes your acheron getting more often to use ult even its in E0S0. it is all because jiaoqiu debuff called Ashen Roast, it will triggered based on enemies turn. my opinion was based on how he performing for acheron stacks, especially when you don't have her signature, not his damage.
Thanks for the showcases! Wanted to request an interesting one. Basically a DoT team comparison but Jiaoqiu replaces Black Swan. Kafka, JQ, RM, Sustain vs Kafka, BS, RM, Sustain. Was interested to see if he can replace her.
I'm actually happy about this. Besides the fact that I literally have the same team and Acheron at E0S0 as the 1st one which was very convenient and accurate lol, this video brings light to all the Jiaoqiu negativity. I was once part of the doomposting and disappointed fans, but after watching this my mind changed about him and hopefully the perception that people have that he's "only slightly better than Guin"
Wow!! Now you just need to play Acheron E0S0, Jiaoqiu E0S0, Pela E6, Sustain E0S0 vs Acheron E2S0, Pela E6, Sparkle E0S0, Sustain E0S0. With that I'll definitely know what to get.
Great showcase as always! If you don't mind, can you maybe do a showcase of Argenti with Jiaoqiu? I want to see if he can replace Sparkle so that I can have just my JY and DHIL fight over her instead. I've only seen one showcase and it's from V1 from his beta so it's not accurate to his current state.
man, you gave my E0S0 Acheron hope lol. I have similar stats with the Acheron you used here but I find her damage underwhelming. Ill be pulling for Jiaoqiu for sure after watching this. Question, I dont have Tutorial LC and only have one Pearls LC.. Whats a good alt Lc for Jiaoqiu? Solitary Healing? Thanks!
silver wolf will do more dmg per ult, but even after nerfs jq still gives a significant amount of ult charge to her and the quantity of ult here with jqs good buffing potential just makes him insane for acheron
U just miss played a lot on sw run, shouldn't ult on her before destroying her ice totems, then ult to reduce more toughness bar, could kill her before gepard get his shield, personally did 3.780 with same team with e0s1 acheron on 76/186 crit
yeah the SW run is pretty scuffed i feel. Theres no way acheron clears the same time as my mono quantum comp with seele E0S0, theres definitely something wrong there
@@alexblack1398 it is s0 which means this acheron is only around JL/DHIL level so i think this is fair. bad rng with FX too so acheron just gets much less ult duration
@@Wawawawawa750 not sure if he used gallagher or not to test because its a huge difference. Not sure if trend matters more than having gallagher break her before gepard shield. FX when compared to gallagher does feels kinda shit in AS since FX has like no toughness damage whatsoever
I'm currently debating between E0S0 Jiaoqiu or Sparkle for my E2S1 Acheron. Any thoughts on who's better? (I don't care about other teams as they work fine - Kafka and Firefly - without Sparkle)
@@ancyaahhschmancy5328that is so erong. sparkle is just way better. The key is her DMG boost lingers until next turn unlike bronya which you canconly use on axheron turn.
Man... These doomposters are just objectively wrong about jiaoqiu... The action value left when you used jiaoqiu is much higher then when you used SW+pela+fu xuan... And that's at e0s0... How come people still say he's bad? It's ridiculous.
Omg omg what is that shit I'm saving for fexiao now that man show up and he's good for my acheron now so should i pull for fexiao *i don't have a good dps* or go now and pull this man now? I'm confused pls helpppp meee
The start of the run on the Silverwolf side could have been better. I think it is possible to break Cocollia before Gepard can put the shield up if you save ultimate for when she gets quantum weakness either if you get lucky with implant or break the ice pillars first. It was also a bit unlucky with Fu Xuan not getting hit that often. I remember I had to Acheron ultimate before I could even use Silverwolf ultimate because I was already at 12 stacks when I did this fight due to my preservation character getting hit so much but that is RNG. It's why I prefer Gepard when I can afford to and put him between Pela and Silverwolf.
Yeah but that's already a point against SW with needing to get lucky with implant while JQ is gonna be consistent. But the ult misplay I agree, but I don't think it would've made that much of a difference considering either way they would need two acheron ults to clear Cocolia
Thaks for the showcase! I don't have SW but I assume you changed to Fu Xuan in her case to lower the RNG of her implant? But I think Gallagher does help more than Fu as a sustain whenever there's a fire weakness so part of the performance is on him and not strictly JQ I'd guess. Regardless, that's a very good performance especially at S0. JQ kind of bridges that gap between S0 and S1 which is nice.
No. Its because of the lightcone. When your conservation unit is hit it give one stack to Acheron. It doesn't work gives extra stacks when Jiaoqiu use his ult. So Gallagher is better with Jiaoqiu but without him a conservation with that lightcone is better.
My situation is a bit complicated, I don’t have so much resources and either too much characters, I was lucky enough to have e1 FuXuan and also e6 Pela, but I also have e6 Qingque with Jade Light Cone, I’m planning to pull for Sparkle too. So it will be better to pull for Jiaoqiu or SW? The thing is that I could make an Acheron team that could change into a Mono Quantum if necessary
That really would depend on your priorities. If you prefer Acheron stacking much much faster then you pick Jiaoqiu, SW is just not ideal in AOE content especially if there are two bosses. If you prefer the team flexibility of mono-quantum then SW is your go-to. Me, I'm personally going for Jiaoqiu for Acheron specifically, but I am planning for situations where I might want him on my DOT team instead. Would that mean I'll end up benching my E6 Guinaifen? Unfortunately yeah. But having Jiaoqiu would mean I have fire on both sides of MOC and PF when they buff DOT again.
@@yumeng4686 I think I need team flexibility before everything else. As I said, I don’t have so much characters and my only reliable team is Firefly with Asta replacing Ruan Mei. I’m unable to finish a lot of endgame content with just one reliable team. Then SilverWolf I think? I know Jiaoqiu is better with Acheron but that doesn’t mean SilverWolf is trash with her now
Jiaoqiu is better since he is usable on all three end game modes. Mono quantum team is not really good these days because the meta focuses on break and follow ups.
@@gonzalobarrera2280 Then go for Silver Wolf. Had SW not have her rerun yet, I might actually suggest getting her first then just go for Jiaoqiu rerun later on. But as it is right now, it's def a case of wait and see.
Sparkle is better for Long term future proofing, for both Acheron and Qingque teams. Sparkle can basically be put in any team comps, who also needs as much SP spamming.
Your video honestly made me doubt should i pull for him or not 😂 Currently my acheron is on e0s1, sw e1s1, sparkle e1s1, should i pull for jiaoqiu? Or sparkle e2 instead? I wanted to pull yunli at first, cause currently I can full star all of the content rn, except for PF. That's why my intention was pull for jq so i only need to think one party for PF What's ur opinion? My acheron isn't using atk boots tho, using spd boots cause my debuffer was only 150ish spd
hmmm i ran the sw comp but with gepard trend and my score was 1755...a 45 AV extra idk man. man guess i'll skip him afterall..no value for me edit : mine is e0s1 acheron and e0s0 sw ..i doubt with that much vulnerability after broken s1 even makes any difference
Yeah spent 180 tickets for a bit more to improve in your score. When in everage just need 1300 in any side. And Jiaoqiu with tutorial is a trap, new players will not have that lightcone. And holy moly 2 wind set with 160 speed that is the hard to get.
Thanks for the showcase, i have Acheron e0s0, Pela e6 pearl, SW e0 tutorial and Sparkle e1, need your opinion on increasing acheron damage, should i go for e2 sparkle or pull e0 jiaoqiu ?
It makes absolutely no sense making a comparative video just to change the team comp in order to tip the scales to one side lmao. Gallagher is way too good for Acheron teams, i see no reason to use Fu Xuan, it ends up making the whole team worse by default, so it's not fair saying that Jiaoqiu is the one making the diference.
@@Hhhh22222-w my apologies, I should’ve been more clear, for E2s1 Acheron, who’s better as a solo nihility. This also includes a trend preservation for the sw team, I’m trying to be as fair as possible!
JQ by a mile. SW cannot ult turn 1 consistently even with tutorial as a solo nihility, JQ can. And turn 1 ult is very important because Acheron also gets her first ult in turn 1.
@@oyfum2638 no it's coz of trend lc. trend gets cancelled out by jq, but without jq it generates more stacks than Gallagher by himself. so you need a preservation character with trend when there's no jq (however jq gives more stacks than trend)
With all your "hype-posting" videos, i am now at a point where i wonder if it is better to go for Jiaoqiu now or Acheron LC ? 🤔 Thing is that he'll rerun *soon* after while Acheron 3rd coming could never happen, i guess
I would say Jiaoqiu over Acheron LC for me BUT I can see people said the opposite as well. Then since Acheron would get rerun in the future, you can go for Jiaoqiu first and then Acheron LC since it's cheaper to get (higher chance to get it 75/25). But you can also save for Acheron LC first and then Jiaoqiu. I will skip him bc I want either Dr Ratio and Jingliu's LC and Aventurine for my teams but get him in his rerun if I can.
Personally I think it's gonna be less likely. In this run Jiao team is able to break cocolia before Gepard 2nd move and I don't think it's possible without fire weak enemies *in AS, any team that could break faster is gonna be superior compared to the team that breaks slower
qnd alguem sabe saber gameplay e mostra o personagem sem ficar atras de meme da nisso. mostrando o poder de cada time e deixando povo escolher oq quer.
The reason why I skipped jiaoqiu is because 1.got nerfed 5 times and one of them is a heal 2.I was gonna go for sparkle or black swan instead but black swan only works with Kafka and sparkle only works with e2 Acheron So it concludes that I’m going back to pulling jiaoqiu
Why are you so obsessed with him genuinely 😭 like I find you under every post about Jiaoqiu and all you do is shade. Like if you’re that pressed then prove that he’s replaceable with your own math.
