Jim "@22lrMarksmen" Cannon's Trip to ELEY Test Range in Winters, TX 

Best lot is somewhat of a misnomer. It is not necessarily one lot is better than the next. It is specific to that individual rifle. Two rifles from the same manufacturer, made on the same day, still have variances and will therefore like a type of ammo or specific lot number of that ammo better. Accuracy with a .22 typically involves a lot of trial and error with a lot of different ammo just to see what is working and what isn’t. I have a Savage that shoots fairly cheap CCI standard more accurately than 6 different match ammo’s I tested. Have not had the time to test different lot numbers, but will now.

will just say "Lucky " people , sometimes , even 8/10 of the best aren't what we'd want

congratulations on the experience and good shots.

Glad you said it.

Ok

gixxerjunky I'm on it.

Thanks for watching!

AP1 S2K pictures or it didn't happen!

Jim Cannon is there a way to post pics in these comments? I've got tons

Come on. This is just not true.

I have one & I love it too!

Jim Cannon I just saw one of your other videos. I’m running the XLR element as well. You should do a video of your Tikka.

It was incredible!!

ashley garrow - I would Loooove to see that. Email me photos at 22lrmarksmen@gmail.com

If you'd like to do this for real, contact Dan Killough at ELEY in Texas. He can arrange for you to ship your rifle to him and he'll do this exact test on your rifle. www.eley.co.uk/test-ranges/united-states-of-america/

Any luck with the Tenex challenge?

I’d love to get some money on this. You are kidding. Right?

That's incredible! Was that center to center? My 13.3mm was outside to outside. They also tell people you'll usually see better results in a stock rather than in the test facility.

no outside to outside, had one cold bore shot out of that group that was fired after two rounds of Cci 1070fps standard velocity stuff@@22lrmarksmen

Wow Winters TX is close to Abilene I would love to make that trip with my old rifle but its at least 10 hrs from East Texas border over there!

Mail it. If you beat my score I'll buy you a brick.

Wow Jim great offer, but I don't think I would ever hand my old rifle off to UPS, FED EX or USPS without being Like a cat on a hot tin roof the whole time it was gone! LOL @@22lrmarksmen

How did it go?

The best 10-shot Tenex group for my Anschutz 1710 (54 action) was 16.6 mm, but subsequent groups of the same lot spread quite a bit. Because the Anschutz 1710 technically has a "factory" barrel, Dan suggested batch testing Eley Edge on the 2nd day rather than Tenex. According to Dan, Eley Edge is designed to maximize performance in "factory" barrels. The best 10-shot Edge group was 17.0 mm. But a few multiple Edge groups (same lot) were slightly tighter overall than a few multiple Tenex groups (same lot). So I ended-up doing a bulk purchase of Eley Edge. Dan and his staff are incredibly knowledgeable and very patient with a rimfire neophyte like me. What a great experience! What a great time-saver! Thanks again for your video...

@@sluggoII Dan is amazing. Thanks for reporting your experience.

That's how you do business! Cuts out all the wasted money and time, when you get the proper ammo, I have been down that path twice now with two rifles throwing ammo around like a " Mad Womans Shit" talk to the people who know, and listen, they know more than you!

I talked to eley manufacturing years ago, & at that time the only difference was it was "sorted" into the different grades with test barrel.. i doubt its any different now, except that now they have more "machines" making the ammo.. now you find which machine and then which velocity your rifle likes

My understanding is that for a batch to be labelled as Tenex it has to perform to a certain standard in all FOUR of Eley’s test barrels. If it doesn’t meet the Tenex criteria then it either will be labelled as Match or Team depending on its performance. So it’s entirely possible that you can find a batch of cheaper Eley ammunition which shoots well in 2 or 3 of the their test barrels but not in all 4 - but which shoots well in YOUR particular barrel. Personally, I spend a significant portion of my range time testing batches of ammunition (Tenex, Match, R50, Special Match, Centre X, Midas). Statistically, a random batch of Tenex should outperform a random batch of Match or Team in a randomly selected barrel. However, I have also had some batches of selected Tenex which were very good from the shoulder - and some that were less so...

Yes, there is one in Norway.

and Birmingham!

www.killoughshootingsports.com/index.php/webforms/index/index/id/2/

I would go to the testing center that is closest to you ! My Anschutz 64, and CZ455 loves SK LONG RANGE at 100 & 200yds. but it also loves ELEY MATCH 🤔 but not so much with ELEY TENEX 🤭 Either ammo company will give you the tightest groups after lot testing. Lot testing is the key to tighter groups not which ammo maker you think is better. All things considered do you want to pay a premium price ie (around $5-8+)/ per box more for Eley Tenex when it shoots any better groups than most Lapua Ammo ? When Eley talks about world Championships that Eley has won remember that is almost exclusively in the Olympics in The Biathlon ! In the last winter Olympics in Soul Korea their was know other rifle from any country represented but Anschutz and they use ELEY AMMO made in Germany 😉 Who shoots theses Olymplc rifles outside of the Olympics. 🤣 Eley has a lock on these single shot open sights target rifles which can range from $5k to over $10k+ Eley and Anschutz really push this world championship narrative to the fullest but it is a really not representative of Eley ammo for American bench-rest competition. If you think about it that is close to false advertising of what Eley .22 ammo really is for bench rest and NRL shooting in the U. S. Sorry for this long rant 😂😂😂

Thanks jim. Sounds like you know .22lr ammo

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I should note that one was brand new & one had 25,000+ rounds down the barrel. I believe new barrels don't shoot as well as broken in barrels. I've seen my old barrel do better than it did that day.

Nope

JaredInBlack lately not as much. In 2015 I was shooting probably 10,000 per year.

HUH!?

Your brevity is killing me.