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Jim Cornette on Sami Zayn's El Generico Gimmick 

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@FreneticZetetic
@FreneticZetetic 5 лет назад
El Generico is the best half-joking gimmick name of all time.
@Voysh2Voysh69
@Voysh2Voysh69 Год назад
The Generic Luchadorrrr…. ELLLLL GENERICOOOO! ☝🏻
@isaacshaver6218
@isaacshaver6218 4 месяца назад
Yes great name
@adenoidhynkel1908
@adenoidhynkel1908 7 лет назад
And yet he continues to get thousands of "Ole!" chants from WWE crowds who somehow know about El Generico.
@jenkind1
@jenkind1 6 лет назад
Memetic mutation. If that many people actually watched/supported indies they wouldn't be indies.
@ShowtimeDr
@ShowtimeDr 5 лет назад
Yeah Adenoid Hynkel! Those Ole chants are really getting him over! Look at all those solid pushes he is getting.
@goodbrothermusic2740
@goodbrothermusic2740 5 лет назад
He never wrote ole on his gear or his shirts. It got over when people started seeing kevin steen vs El generico on RU-vid. Jim doesn't realize how big RU-vid is. If he did he wouldn't have stopped using his RU-vid channel.
@joeyskywalker1322
@joeyskywalker1322 3 года назад
@@goodbrothermusic2740 Lol you do understand most Wrestling shows nowadays are hardcore indy fans right 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@goodbrothermusic2740
@goodbrothermusic2740 3 года назад
@@joeyskywalker1322 You do understand my comments is 2 years old right? Nowadays there's NO fans.
@Colt2OO2
@Colt2OO2 Год назад
The gimmick was super over, but yeah it wasn't ever gonna work in the mainstream world of WWE even now, so they had to get the mask off of him and have him cut promos. As Jim said, Sami is a phenomenal wrestler and his character work the last couple years has been second to none, so it was for the better although I do find it funny every time the ''Ole!" chants start up
@Kappa31
@Kappa31 Год назад
it could've work, the undertaker on paper sounds like a horrible idea but that worked really well all u would have to do it change it a little then it could've worked fine. I mean lets be honest El generico is still better then even bloodline sami
@Colt2OO2
@Colt2OO2 Год назад
@@Kappa31 Maybe they could've tried, but let's be honest, that character was made for an indy audience and thus, the WWE fans who mostly aren't aware of the jokes of some characters like that one probably wouldn't take to it. He didn't talk under the mask, which is something WWE wouldn't have liked if he'd kept it going, so I'm glad the gimmick went away when he signed because of how verbally entertaining he is now.
@VlogUntilDawn
@VlogUntilDawn 6 лет назад
It's funny how Jim was totally wrong about Steen's image change. He essentially has the same look. if anything, he's gained weight.
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 года назад
He's definitely fatter in PWG
@Augur007
@Augur007 3 года назад
@@jamirimaj6880 yes he is he’s in better shape now
@tokiwartooth95
@tokiwartooth95 3 года назад
@@Augur007 He's still fat, there's just no getting over the fact that KO is chubby and short and still managed to get over.
@finnvalor1915
@finnvalor1915 Год назад
@@jamirimaj6880 Fatter than a PAWG
@hobbitbobbitt
@hobbitbobbitt 7 лет назад
Generico could have unmasked and said he was Canelo Alvarez' wrestling cousin or brother. Maybe incorporate some boxing spots. At least it's a character.
@ericsmusic5927
@ericsmusic5927 7 лет назад
Kevokevo that is corny and stupid
@ericsmusic5927
@ericsmusic5927 7 лет назад
Kevokevo Also I think its safe to say 80% of WWE audience don't know Canelo
@DugganSC
@DugganSC 7 лет назад
:) Thanks for giving credit to International Wrestling Cartel here in Pittsburgh! I haven't made a show there in some time, but I've had fun every time that I have.
@bigdaa55
@bigdaa55 7 лет назад
el generico was amazing !
@TheSaltySeaman
@TheSaltySeaman 7 лет назад
Jim is so prescient. It's almost like he knows a thing or two about the business...unlike most of the IWC.
@Thecallmemisterajp
@Thecallmemisterajp 7 лет назад
Love Jim, but he's still very narrowminded in a lot of ways, and Generico is one example. Now I'd say that Sami probably benefited from taking off the mask and speaking, but especially in this age of geek culture and where hardcore fans make up a good portion of the mainstream wrestling audience, I think he's mistaken in saying that El Generico wouldn't be marketable. He'd get a pop just off reputation alone, but the gimmick was quirky and offbeat enough that I could see it appealing to fans in the same way that someone like Bailey does, it's versatile enough that it lends itself to comedy - which WWE is big on - and Sami himself is talented enough to communicate a wide range of emotions through body language alone - which was half the reason he and Steen got as big as they did in ROH.
@BrokenSaintRW
@BrokenSaintRW 7 лет назад
I know, right? Zayn is a great worker, no doubt. But he wouldn't have worked in WWE as El Generico beyond middle of the bottom. At least as Zayn, he can be the guy he is meant to be. Best of all, you can have a rivalry against a cocky heel Midcard Champ (but NOT Owens) who says Zayn hasn't earned a shot, then defends against Local Talent who are clearly meant to take a dive. Builds up to a PPV, where the cocky champ says He will NEVER wrestle Zayn. He then defends against... El Generico. A small section of the fan base will get it. The rest won't and will be legitimately surprised when he takes the belt off of the Champ and unmasks... revealing Sammy Zayn.
@matthewrock4725
@matthewrock4725 4 года назад
@@Thecallmemisterajp but he's not been proven wrong. Zayn is now a world known entity without his mask, and his mouth has gotten him work as an on screen manager, and over more as well. Jim's issues with him as been hard to work with and a silly gimmick, not ever his talent or ability.
@RoninDays
@RoninDays 2 года назад
@@matthewrock4725 He should have talked with the mask on while brainbusting people. He never really got past mid card either damn way.
@zackattack125
@zackattack125 3 года назад
Sami Zayn and El generico are two different people
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 2 года назад
Ok
@SkinnySweatyMan
@SkinnySweatyMan 2 года назад
Facts
@11combatzone
@11combatzone 7 лет назад
it was basically toby mcguire in spiderman with the cheap costume when he faced macho man.
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 3 месяца назад
>it was basically toby mcguire in spiderman with the cheap costume when he faced macho man Also the WWE (and the big leagues) fanbase: 1) “hE’s ThE nEw EdDie gUeRrErO *he does an American shimmy* 2) “He’s so dull, turn him heel already!” 3) Has to memorize lines from a script. 4) “We don’t like that move, pick a new one for the latest 2k game!” 5) Add some generic ahh guitar music. 6) Uses him as enhancement talent only. 7) “Just throw him with all of the other Mexicans at Main Event!” 8) They have to sit at home waiting for their release.
@daburglar
@daburglar Год назад
Looks like Corny was wrong about Steen
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 2 года назад
Lol the Alice Radley days! The one thing I did like about her was her voice, it gave me ASMR-y vibes
@T-dog-fm7wf
@T-dog-fm7wf 11 месяцев назад
Well….. he wasn’t right about steen.
@ShaneSpear02
@ShaneSpear02 Год назад
Looking back now, it's mildly insane that someone with some of the best facial qualities when it comes to using their face to sell and to act and emote thought it was a good idea to put a hood on. People are going to remember this Sami Bloodline story as fondly as Yesmania and Kofimania when it's all said and done.
@Sarabheswaran7010
@Sarabheswaran7010 3 года назад
4:54😭
@justinwhu5918
@justinwhu5918 3 года назад
El Generico was the best in ring,no joke image if wwe keep him in the mask and just changed his gimmick or even him like a "hurricane" Gregory Helms type
@ews6724
@ews6724 4 года назад
Hahaha smarks
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 3 месяца назад
>Hahaha smarks Also the WWE fanbase: 1) “hE’s ThE nEw EdDie gUeRrErO *he does an American shimmy* 2) “He’s so dull, turn him heel already!” 3) Has to memorize lines from a script. 4) “We don’t like that move, pick a new for the latest 2k game!” 5) Add some generic ahh guitar music. 6) Uses him as enhancement talent only. 7) “Just throw him with all of the other Mexicans at Main Event!” 8) They have to sit at home waiting for their release.
@calbear6073
@calbear6073 3 года назад
Who?
@tonyclifton2230
@tonyclifton2230 Год назад
Jim neidhart?
@metameta1427
@metameta1427 4 месяца назад
Brainbustaaaaahhhh! at Wrestlemania!
@cville991
@cville991 Год назад
Not gonna lie, JC Penny is still stuck in the territory days. James Darnell from the DEADLOCK podcast even said that Jim Corndog wanted Kevin Owens and Eddie Edwards in a MMA style match. Like what the fuck was Little Jimmy smoking on? MMA should not be compared to pro wrestling. 😑
@theazureknight9399
@theazureknight9399 Год назад
James Darnell from the deadlock podcast, or whatever the fuck, is lying. It's incredibly out of character for Cornette to want wrestlers to fight MMA style when he always got pissed off at people who try to do it in one way or the other. Cornette hates strong style, which is wrestling combined with martial arts. He hated the brawl for all, which was a shoot fighting tournament in the middle of RAW, and the whole reason why he hates Matt Riddle is because Riddle mixes MMA style offense with pro wrestling. Cornette butted head with Owens because he wanted Owens to lose weight and cut his hair. Nowadays Kevin Owens is main eventing big time pay per views in the WWE and guess what? He looks a lot less fat and his hair's short.
@williamblair3610
@williamblair3610 5 лет назад
It's doesn't matter what you give him. As soon as people find out he's a Muslim it'll be a will be over with. To many people hates Muslims unless make him a heel.
@legendgamers7065
@legendgamers7065 4 года назад
Why
@tonyclifton2230
@tonyclifton2230 Год назад
Yeah this point aged real well. I guess he is a heel but I don't think people care.
@andrewdelgado5159
@andrewdelgado5159 5 лет назад
El Generico was trying to be nacho libre
@pearcemark2
@pearcemark2 4 года назад
no
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 3 месяца назад
>El Generico was trying to be nacho libre Also the WWE fanbase: 1) “hE’s ThE nEw EdDie gUeRrErO *he does an American shimmy* 2) “He’s so dull, turn him heel already!” 3) Has to memorize lines from a script. 4) “We don’t like that move, pick a new for the latest 2k game!” 5) Add some generic ahh guitar music. 6) Uses him as enhancement talent only. 7) “Just throw him with all of the other Mexicans at Main Event!” 8) They have to sit at home waiting for their release.
@RoninDays
@RoninDays 2 года назад
No brainbuster, no mask, lame as fuck in WWE the whole damn time. He's only over from the aforementioned which is kinda sad :(
@neverangel24officialytchan87
@neverangel24officialytchan87 3 месяца назад
Finally, someone with common sense. 🙏🏻
@moeezalimazhar5137
@moeezalimazhar5137 4 года назад
What has Sami Zayn Become now!
@obersveyourmind
@obersveyourmind 4 года назад
His reign as the Intercontinental Champion was as forgettable as the Husky Harris character and name...what a disaster.
@kevinmiguel8428
@kevinmiguel8428 3 года назад
@@obersveyourmind well
@TheVoiceGreen
@TheVoiceGreen 3 года назад
@@obersveyourmind you little fucks just want to catch Cenas wristband in the crowd
@jordandennis6794
@jordandennis6794 7 лет назад
Sami Zayn needs to stop dancing to the ring with his anime theme song. I can't take this dude seriously with this.
@MrFnPink420
@MrFnPink420 7 лет назад
Too bad its not a anime theme its a music known as SKA which Sami listens too in his real life...TJ Perkins has a Anime theme
@CGoody564
@CGoody564 7 лет назад
someone doesn't know the difference between j-pop, j-rock, and SKA? lol
@briantaylor6917
@briantaylor6917 7 лет назад
idiot
@DarkEliteEric
@DarkEliteEric 7 лет назад
Jordan Dennis It's not anime. It's ska. He's a ska kid.
@DarkEliteEric
@DarkEliteEric 7 лет назад
Chops The Clown Perkins is more 80's 8/16-bit video game based
@smallworldz7241
@smallworldz7241 4 года назад
I've never been very impressed by Zayne
@Augur007
@Augur007 3 года назад
*Zayn
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 2 года назад
He’s funny he sold the Brock Lesnar return great
@youtubeistryingtocensorme
@youtubeistryingtocensorme 4 месяца назад
El Generico could work in the same way Dude Love worked.
@kamili22la6
@kamili22la6 6 лет назад
El generico was OVER what's wrong with jim cornette
@jenkind1
@jenkind1 6 лет назад
El Generico was over with smarks. Nothing's wrong with Jim, he just has incredible foresight.
@joeyskywalker1322
@joeyskywalker1322 3 года назад
He was only over with the hardcore fans not a Mainstream Wrestling Fanbase
@Kappa31
@Kappa31 Год назад
@@joeyskywalker1322 we still hear ole every week whenever he comes out what are you on about
@AndrewVera23
@AndrewVera23 11 месяцев назад
@@joeyskywalker1322Jim wanted to get rid of his mask yet he would have never got to wwe if he wasn’t generico
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