Jim Cornette on The Creation Of Kane & Hell In A Cell 

And when the doctor asked who the father was, Vince said: IT WAS ME DOCTOR! IT WAS ME ALL ALOOONNGG!!

And then Austin walks in “I’ll take it from here nurse!”

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PotatoQuality Aw son of a bitch!

Who are those guys? and why are they giving handjobs to my favorite wrestlers?

Genius

sammmm87 brilliant

@@sammmm87 a fuck I wanted to say that fuck ye lol

@@sammmm87 LMAO

which is bullshit anyway, little bitch is overrated

@@y0shiklassik obvious bait is obvious

@@ChaddeusPrime yeah michaels is so great because he oversold and screamed like a bitchy chippendale dancer in every match, still dont see why everyone pretends to like his c- bullshit especially when he was a fucking dickhead all the time

I dont think very many people agree with you on that. Michaels is for sure a legend.

@@ChaddeusPrime well im tired of being right all the time

These were the golden days of wrestling!

@@dirkturrell6460 Then Vince didn't want to deal with the taxes, rules, and regulations of being a "sport". He decided to admit to the world it was 100% pretend, all made up. That was the death of professional wrestling.

@@zamiel3 that wasn't "then" people had known it was fake for years before.

@@heshamhany8470Not even what I am talking about.

@@zamiel3 lol I knew pro wrestling was fake when I first started watching as a six year old kid. That was thirty two years ago. Nobody with half a brain working believed it was real.

They did kind of because I remember JR saying something like "We found out they are not actual brothers, they just grew up together and see each other as brothers" when I was binge watching old raw on the network a few years back.

Random: I was working a bar (security) in Beverly Hills, the weekend before whatever Wrestlemania was in LA, circa '03...Christian is standing around the bar like a lost puppy. There wasn't a broad within 6 feet of him. The other wrestlers were grouped up away from him like he was Jimmy Carter.

Tariq Busy lmfaooo💀💀💀💀💀

If anyone remembers Edge & Christian, Gangrel his Brood, were originally apart of Undertaker's Ministry of Darkness

@Euroheat0022 true but them being brothers suited that era well, you had the dudleys, brothers, the hardys, also brothers, and the brothers of destruction

Was he dressed like that? ^

@@GranthamStreet Looked just like Corporate Kane but he was smiling and really nice. 2 am and in a suit.

@@papachee323 That's why I half wish I lived near a big arena. So when I do my WalMart shopping at 2-3 in the morning (whenever they return to 24 hour) I might just run into a superstar. And you know Glenn went there at 2 in the morning in the hopes that of the few people in the store at that time of day, no one would recognize him XD

@@randomlyentertaining8287 It's worth the risk. Just for that chance to see Mankind in electronics.

I loved everything about it besides the comical rotten meat stuff, but showing the room and all with the breathing would be peak

Good comment mate

@@wezzab3899 Damn good.

@@spongebobsquarepants3990 xd so quirky xd

spongebob squarepants alright spongebob

Everything said here was spot on.,How easily Kane beat Mankind is often overlooked

One of my favorite Corny quotes. Up there with, “I wouldn’t wanna name any names like SHAWN MICHAELS for instance.”

@@alexdelarge703 fuckin classic

I like how it was okay for Shawn to threaten to no show and get away with anything he wanted, where when Warrior threatened to no show he got his ass fired Granted even though he was a prick and a crybaby back then at least Shawn was entertaining and could actually work and wrestle. Just funny to think

@@antonmasters8626 I think it is because Vince was so desperate at this time to make everyone happy. And so he let Shawn get away with a lot. So he wouldn't show up on WCW.

I think the Katie Vick thing was where it really jumped the shark

Lets not forget the huge pop that Chris Jericho got in August 1999

RVD had a great debut except for the piped in crowd noise. The whole crowd is doing the Van Dam taunt, yet all you heard on tv was a deafening Austin chant.

DDP had the best WWE debut, listen to the reveal pop!

The Giant in WCW. They got him to a) Win the World Heavyweight Championship at his first match and b) against Hulk " the last time I lost clean was a decade ago, brother!" Hogan. Try to beat that.

@@justinobuscape7031 Yeah, but that wrestling story sucks compared to Kane.

I can too, but not 5 seconds of his politics!

Real shit

@Chris Terry Ain't it Wonderful? Trump is our Most Greatest, Most Wonderful President we've EVER had. Learn it, Live it & always Love it You FuckTard!

Me too, Jim is awesome

Once you humanize a monster, it's almost impossible to make them into a monster again. Yet, Vince does it constantly. Look at poor Big Show. Once they changed him from Vince's hired monster into a face, they could never get him back to that same level again.

He was your shit? Wtf

@@totallybored5526 lol he shat out kane

@Alejandro Franchini Kane, Booker T, Goldberg, 10 others I could name were all victims of HHH's early to mid 2000s run

Nah, the unmasked thing was good, he just change to be a demon to a psychopath monster. He was doing spinaroonies before that thing.

Paid his dues

I doubt you were alive then, but it was 1984. Michaels and Jannetty didn't even make it to Mid-South and World Class with a small push as the Rockers until 1985

@@michaelkaminski8339 It was a joke/jab at Michaels for refusing to put anyone over as much as he did. I was aware that Shawn spent time in the AWA, various NWA territories, and Mid-South before the WWF.

@@michaelkaminski8339 x

Except for certain kinda jobs... Heyooo

Well we kinda knew he was bad simply by his association with Paul Bearer.

lol did you actually think it was real

ladistar lol I was six years old so yes I thought it was real. They also did a great job at making it look super real. It took me until I was about 9 to realize wrestling is scripted.

Agreed. Only people who want wrestling to be fun, goofy bullshit criticize Jim on his wrestling opinions. I have no problems with people disagreeing with the rest, as I also find myself disagreeing with him on some occasions, but using the same old "he's out of touch" bullshit is garbage

He’s not out of touch he just won’t budge on his ideas. He knows what works but won’t give credit to things that work he doesn’t like

What is beer flu you mean bird flu! Lmao

@@fabianmarshall4120 Exactly. And this is Corny's strength and weakness. Corny has so much right but he's not right on *everything*, and tastes change. He still sees wrestling as it's the 70's or 80's but the audience is totally culturally different. Not right or wrong, just different. But there are also fundamentals that Corny has - absolute fundamentals that are just *right*. Take for him here talking about unmasked Kane. He's right, unmasking Kane neutered him because it wasn't what we were sold. I would always listen to him but he's not going to 'get' Orange Cassidy because it's not something someone from the 80's would 'get'. And that's fine, Cassidy would have *sucked* in the 80's / 90's. Now humour is post-modern / self-referential and it just *works*. That Cassidy can wrestle makes it work. If Cassidy was an unathletic goofball who can't back up the gimmick with ring skills, it would fail. But he can. And Corny loyalists can harp on all day about why I'm wrong. That's cool, that's an opinion. But there's a reason why Smokey Mountain went out of business too, and why many of Corny's hand picked favourites like Well Dunn or the NWA invasion in 1997 didn't get over with the WWF fans. Corny IS a wrestling genius and a plethora of good ideas but he's not *perfect*, and that's where people get him wrong. Is he out of touch? No! His fundamentals are transcendent of time. But is he out of touch in that he won't accept things he personally doesn't get? Sure. I'll guarantee you though, that's an age thing. The older we get, the more easier it is to get that way. I mean, look at Vince McMahon!

When he says he doesn’t like something he’ll tell you how he would do it. His idea is usually better.

Trash

Just like TLC, Money In The Bank, Extreme Rules and similar shit.

That Shane and Vince became involved in the wrestling at all made me lose interest and especially when they put themselves into main events and real programs with legit wrestlers. It discredited the whole thing. I don't care how big Vince's muscles were, he's just a scrawny old businessman that should be no less than squashed by any talent on the roster, especially by the champions!

He never should've been unmasked.

@@thescourge6989 I loved when he got unmasked to me he become more then a monster but as time went he became more human

20 years ago maybe. Not now. I'd trust Heyman Hhh Gedo Court Bauer Don Callis Jeremy borash Lagana And Tony Khan All Before id say cornette only because of Cornettes refusal to compromise and speak with tact He still has a great mind for the business but it's my way or the highway with him. You can tell he misses mlw somewhat.....I loved his Jacob Fatu idea. Hes the one that got me excited for joe vs Lesnar at mania....I still want that to happen But cornette is like Terrell Owens or Antonio Brown. No matter how great he is...his attitude isnt worth the effort to put up with it....hes a wrestling genius in a lot of ways. But id rather try to give a new guy a chance steal one of the names I listed or pump some money into a company like the nwa, roh, or mlw r ather than hire him because at least I know I wouldn't have to put out a pr statement or apologize for something he said at least once a week. Hed have to give up his podcast, I'd give him strict bullet points to abide by on commentary or if he cuts a promo and he is to work in conjunction with a team.....I'd never give him full creative control. But hed never agree to that so what would be the point

Darnell Thames who exactly are you??? ....... a nobody

@@arsebiscuits3270 what's your point exactly???

Darnell Thames that nobody on the planet cares what you would make him do .... or who you would hire

Darnell Thames I personally thought your comment was poignant and had some extremely valid points, fuck this random dickhead

Ikr

Yeah HBK/Taker was definitely the best Hell in the Cell ever. Those two were also my two favorite wrestlers ever. Mankind and Terry Funk watched it and said nobody could top that and they were right.

Mankind vs Taker literally defined the attitude era. The first one was only good cuz it was Kane’s debut. I completely disagree. Mick Foley himself literally singlehandedly topped the first one.

The beating Shaun Michaels took at the hands of the UNDERTAKER in the first HELL IN A CELL was brutal and bloody, he looked like he went through a meat grinder and cheese grater

I absolutely agree and I was lucky enough that this was the very first WWF show I ever attended. It was magical and easily the best birthday present I had (I had just turned 9 a couple days prior to the show)

It is “Mr” to you.

Wouldn't that be his middle name? His original appearance was Kane the Undertaker

kooo

That's correct

It wasn’t? My childhood is a lie

97 and 03 were my favorite years.

97 or 98. where were some very good years in the 80s too that could hold a candle up. 86-90.

2006.

No Trish, no Lita, no Too Cool, no hardcore championship, no corporate Rock, no Ministry of Darkness

@@sheepdavis lol really... too cool xD. Over like rover yeah but come on xD

I think an I Quit or Last Man Standing Match would be more fitting.

Nah cornette vs Russo on a ufc ppv

With no referee stoppage

Gotta be that on the pole gimmick also bro.. hell in the cell on a pole match bro. Or no deal bro. No deal

Nah triple threat hell in a cell cornette vs Russo vs dunn

A blue Kane?

@@MCMcThriller Yes there's rumors of Big Cass returning as Blue Kane

Managed by Blue Meanie?

He never wanted to be champion shut up

I dont know if an blue Kane would work, with an new character, and they want big Cass He would never do way better than the original Kane

WWE has a season. Wrestlemania to Wrestlemania. There used to be four high points every year. Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam Survivor Series.

lmao vince russo strikes again hahaha

They used to book so well back then I don’t know wtf happened because it’s garbage now

The class would be called "How to get rid of the two most overrated losers who couldn't draw a dime so we can get SCSA on top, Mick right behind him with Rock and HHH right behind them." Step 1. Have Taker throw HBK onto a casket so he destroys his back 2. Have Hart sign to WCW like he was every going to move the needle there 3. Montreal Screwjob 4. Get Tyson because HBK sucks and is too sissy to be believable against Austin 5. Strip HBK and let him go home and keep him there until all the talent leaves. 6. Let Corny pretend like he did it, mention the Rock n Roll express for the one thousandth time, and then blame Russo for the bad parts like the Rock n Roll express coming into the WWF in the late 90s and going over like a wet fart. I watch that time frame and think now that if Owen didn't hurt Austin then he'd have been champ a lot sooner and those two would have been down the card or in WCW a lot sooner. it was obvious which way that was going and while they can trick younger millennials and zoomers with all this modern BS back then we were happy to be rid of those them. Hart wouldn't have made it another year in that company he didn't fit and HBK was so hated people cheered fucking Sid Vicious over him when HBK was the face.

I would like to wrote a comic book series, but I don't have half the creative and complex mind for Character creation as Corny. It's fkn amazing

Yup. Y'all didn't hear Vince McMahon freaking out 😆 "That's gotta be Kane!!!"

@@iiGODLYWARRIORHaha exactly!

Fellow St. Louisan !! did Kane's pyro scare everyone?? like make every jump?

They really didn’t think ahead on that one

@@iiGODLYWARRIOR imagine if Vince said "that's gotta be isaac yankem oops I mean Kane, Kane that's gotta be Kane not that other guy the dentist guy whatever his name is" lol

I've always thought it was so cute when my dog puts his head on one side like he's trying to understand what i'm trying to say.

@@cishansen4162 Y'all are both right!

Yeah kane got it from his dog and the guy who played micheal got it from his dog too if I remember the old Halloween documentary correctly

Jason Voorhees is who I always thought Kane was based on, along with Undertaker to a large extent, also did a kind of head tilt with the mask on, too.

easyrider rider i’m sure they took elements from both him and myers. mostly michael tho. they’re pretty similar tbh, both masked, both walk slowly, both head tilt.

Just picture him as jacked as he was back then looking like Leatherface or Hannibal Lecter. The only thing that would have made that idea even better if they had fake blood behind the mask looking like he skinned it fresh.

@@louis3141the fresh skinned blood gimmick sounds bad ass

@@louis3141 It wouldnt make sense. The burnings were 20 Years ago and should be healed by that point in time. And imagine working a match with make-up, it would get sweaty and messy.

@@Baastilein31 Have you not seen burned victims?? They still look like beef jerky even after numerous skin graft surgeries.

No. You’re wrong. Kane literally said in his interview w stone cold that it added to his character that he only thought he was disfigured but really wasn’t. Granted I agree about Katie Vick. Wrestling as a whole died in 2003.

Who is Katie Vic?

@@eranben-shlomo9856 You're better off not knowing.

@@eranben-shlomo9856 a blow up doll triple h hump in the casket

No joke letting Alexa Bliss win it. That was bs

I know but they had to make it safer

Raymond Solis Jr. oh look a crybaby

@@AlexanderMacAoidh another non-wrestling fan who can't look past beauty. Just cause she's beautiful doesn't mean she has wrestling talent

I stand corrected she's never been in a Hell in a Cell. But still believe she doesn't have wrestling talent

I believe in one interview he said Halloween was his favorite horror movie of all time

Katie Vick was hilarious, when Triple H was wearing that Kane mask, and he was like “Hello” in the funeral home. A for comedy, F for wrestling.

YOU KILLED KATIE VICK!!!!!

Plus the fact that no one even knew what he looked like.

Knowing Sunny she probably would've audibly queefed during the slam...

She would of Sid Vicious that & shit herself lol!

@@YouStink86 what?

@@YouStink86 sorry mate I got you now lol

I think that in every form that there is a bad guy in he\she is more creative and start things while the hero is more of a reactionary. Since in another video Cornette mentioned Bruce Willis i will go with him: until Simon was killed he made life a living hell for John McClane! Brian Pillman, as the loose Cannon, did life hell for Marlena and Goldust, and some may say that the loose cannon character was the only bad person ever who had the upper hand over the good guy. Furthermore, who would make you want to buy the comics: the hero because the bad guy makes you want to see how he will be caught\killed! So, why not loving the bad guys more than the wimpy good one?

Me too. Even that thumbnail is pretty interesting Kane standing behind Jim cornette and cornette face lol 😂😂😂😂😂

probably many months by the time they get to it, if they're even going to read it on the show

If not read by now never will be. Say they get 100 emails, even 50. They pick 5-10 best questions that's relevant to show then done. On to the next batch.

Damn that’s tough

Any images or video ?

Hulk Hogan?

Meltzer is up there too

HBK lies on his stomach, ass up...

Marcus Whitlow Funny you say that cause he has posed for Playgirl only to find, to his detriment, that gay guys mostly read it.

"I was young! And I needed the money."😂

I believe what Shawn said that he did recommend the roof and the mesh instead of those big blue bars.

Expect the Cape he wore at mania looked stupid

@@That_Guy- huh? he wore a cape? when?

@@MrMuaythai84 my bad he didn't wear a cape at mania but there is a picture from a house show of him wearing it

Speaking of Michaels, whatever happened to Michaels' old tag-team partner Marty Jannetty?

@@ElliottMichaels56 Marty was too busy taking all the other somas that the kliq didn't get

@@ElliottMichaels56 You know how Michaels eventually beat "his demons" (aka drugs)? Yeah, well, it was a squash match for Marty and he wasn't the squasher. Last time I heard of Jennetty, he went viral because he was intimidating or shit talking or I don't even know what, he wasn't what you'd call coherent, to an ex-girlfriend publicly on social media... and it went viral because he admitted to a murder in the 80s nobody knew about. It was a lot of false hope for Benoit fans because Jennetty implied he'd killed more since and they thought "YES! Maybe Chris isn't WWE's worst mistake anymore!" I never heard anything more of it because I guess Jennetty is so boring people don't even give a shit enough to follow up when he's admitting to being a serial killer. But of course, the whole thing could've been a drug hallucination. Because drugs. Sorry, "personal demons".

Jennetty posted some more crazy shit today lol

That would be Brian more than Jim lol

Well actually today everyone has a camera in their pocket or easy access to high definition cameras. So while I see what ya did there and agree to a point. Neither Jim's original argument about cameras nor your analogy make any sense in my opinion. Simply for the fact they know that their on TV whether it's supposed to be real or not so why wouldn't they have camera people.. abc followed Ali down a street in a foreign country.

Skullkid Sid, I immediately thought of that same thing lol

Exactly. But AJ Styles being locked in an Undertaker themed room is stupid

ed ward Nice essay, and it’s “they’re” not their.

I kinda liked the idea of kane wearing a human face mask because of the uncanny valley

What?!?! I thought his idea made tons of sense. Why does Kane wear a red super hero outfit? Did Paul Bearer get it for him? Why would he get him an outfit like that? To me the logical look would be the one Jim was describing. Someone who was severely burned and just wants to be normal would have been so much better.

Well he was a rookie lol so I’m sure he was happy to get his foot in