Talking about Adam Page's punches makes me think of Mick Foley trying to figure out the secret of Terry Funk's punch. Then in his first match with Terry he said Funk punched him with full force in his head and then Mick suddenly knew the "secret" lol. These guys are out here doing 450 slashes onto tables and not caring whether they got hurt or not, but they don't want to take a punch to the face. You can't have both.
5:15 I watched a dvd of World Class Championship Wrestling, Kerry Von Erich vs Chris Adams. Kerry punched Adams once in the face. Adams bumped and sold for it. The crowd went wild and Kerry turned to the people encouraging them to cheer louder which they obviously did. They were jumping up and down for one realistic looking worked punch. Now they have to use thumbtacks, barbwire and pizza cutters in order to get 1/10 of that pop from the crowd.
@@ericdraven8784 lol it has nothing to do with the year man, it has to do with the people being behind someone enough or despising them. If MJF hit a cheap shot or bailed from the ring against Punk in their fued got good heat. Its all about the characters and the amount the crowd is invested while keeping their suspension of disbelief. This shit of just doing moves back and forth to each other(while assisting one another to do them) is more boring than OVER wrestlers just chain wrestling. Look at Punk, still the most beloved Babyface in the company while doing less moves than 95% of the roster.
@@alexmontgomery3656 Look at when Wardlow just placed MJFs ring on the apron. Bigger pop then any double 450 though 8 flaming tables. Characters and story > crazy spots.
This match sucked. There was no reason for it to happen, there was no elevation in the animosity of this “feud” that would require a Texas Death Match.
@@aaronrumph3291 Actually 2 title matches to be exact before Texas Death Match III. Like: - vs Adam Cole in standard match at AEW Revolution 3 PPV - vs Dante Martin, also in standard match at the Fallout of AEW Revolution 3 on AEW Dynamite. Which coincidentally was the shortest AEW World Heavyweight Title Match, by which Uncle Dave gave it a ⭐⭐⭐½.
@@joeyskywalker1322 Jericho made the title an joke and a pure gimmick with the la champion crap and how he fake lost the title when he first won it that right there killed it
@@joeyskywalker1322 Eh...Jericho just felt like an established transitional champ. Yes he was a known name, but I never felt like he could've or should've been holding onto the belt other than to help draw attention to the company at the time.
IWC when Bayley refuses to hit Alexa: "This killed Bayley, Alexa and pro wrestling. WWE is garbage, and they can't tell a story! I hate sports entertainment, I just want to see wrestling!" IWC when Page refuses to hit Cole: "Wow, what interesting and subtle storytelling. Indeed, I must be watching Shakespeare, the drama and conflict on Pages face was absolutely impeccable, superb acting! I love pro wrestling. Oh my, the intermissions almost over, I better grab another brandy before act two, and get my camera ready in case they all kiss in the ring again!" Daniel Bryan calling out these flops as fickle was still the best thing I've seen in wrestling in years. Too bad he had to drop that gimmick because he put the IWC on suicide watch with his honest take.
Adam Page DEMANDED the match (Which, as Jim says, isn't an actual Texas Death Match). And just when he has Cole tied up and has a barbed wire chair, ready to do maximum damage, HE SHOWED MERCY. I was ready to turn this off right then and there. I only kept it on, because I was watching with friend. You demanded the match and made threats on Cole's physical livelihood, and all of a sudden when you have the chance to maim him, you drop the chair and show mercy? I don't care what he did after that. That was dumb.
I think the idea was Cole was helpless and even though Page wanted to wreck him, a "good guy" wouldn't beat up a helpless tied up person, as that's a villainous action. Unfortunately it didn't really come across well and made Page look like a dope and the match sucked anyway.
I ABSOLUTELY love it when Cornette takes a MASSIVE left turn while giving a plug for a sponsor.. It’s HILARIOUS every time and poor Brian has to try and save the sponsorship lol.. THIS is one of the MANY reasons y’all are the BEST at keeping all of us Cult of Cornette members entertained! 💯
The problem is that none of these guys are actually tough or crazy, thats why they have to tell us every freaking week how hardcore or unhinged they are. The guys back in the day RARELY ever had these kind of matches cause they were ACTUALLY tough and didnt have to prove it all the time! All you had to do was look at these guys are hear them talk!
You can tell by the audience as well. A lot more women came to the show, because guys like Hall, Nash, Austin, Taker, legitimately gave off that tough guy vibe, but like you said, without having to go to these lengths to prove it every other day.
@@segagenesis7708 Dam that's actually true. Women at the shows look like gamers and nerds while the women back in the day looked straight from the club.
@@Nestle245 Yep. That is why the women fan stories from back then are so crazy. Bret used to be mobbed like the Beatles when the WWF toured Europe. They’d be ripping his clothes off and everything. Kevin Nash told a story of being at a bar and two women from the show, showed up and sat at the other end of the bar. The Bartender came over and told Nash that his drinks were on those two women, courtesy of them. Nash basically said, on a scale of 1-10, they were a 15. He said they looked so good he immediately thought it was a set up and that his wife was behind it. Think back to times back then when the Rock or HHH took off their shirt and you’d hear women screaming in the crowd. Godfather even talked about how easy it was to get strippers to come on the show as his ‘hoes’ because when he went looking for them in the towns, they were ALL wrestling fans already. So they weren’t just trying to get on tv, they were trying to fuck the wrestlers. Heck, back in the 80s, security had to make sure the Rock n Roll Express didn’t get sexually assaulted on their way to the ring.
Jerry didn't go to the Rabbi. He went to the Catholic Church confessional to complain about Tim Whatley. One of the more legendary episodes of the series, in my opinion.
I didn’t waste my time watching this match. It’s seems like Hangman can’t get away from this deathmatch gimmick. I don’t understand how they are failing to push their champion
@@starshipfame1 But the whole point of that storyline was the Young Bucks & Omega being strictly against drinking in real life, with the Young Bucks fanatically against alcohol consumption due to religious beliefs, & it was a way to show "Hangman = failure, because alcohol = evil". That's why it never truly got resolved, Hangman just started chillin with the Dark Order & got his "confidence" back.
@@CM-jc7gk it’s dumb tbh. It took a lot of steam off of Hangman. It took years for Adam be considered legit (I didn’t start taking his character serious until the Cody era of Bullet Club). Now he’s a sad drunk cowboy? He didn’t need that gimmick, especially when AEW was still shuffling around and building main eventers.
Their issue is that they didn’t build him enough before making him Champion. He took a hiatus, came back, won a ladder match the night he returned, and got a title shot against Omega right away. As others have said, they had momentum going early on and let it go. So he really went into his title reign cold.
Every time Jim describes a train wreck like this, all I can think of is all the legends AEW has on payroll and wonder why Tony doesn't tap into their decades of wrestling knowledge and psychology. What a waste.
How do you not have Arn Anderson,Billy Gunn,Jerry Lynn and Dustin Rhodes putting your matches together as agents. Jim Ross as your Talent Relations guy,Jake & Tully teaching your Heels how to be Heels,could’ve hired Bischoff to format and produce his television. Cornette to book the matches that Arn and the agents put together. Its honestly sad how RIGHT AEW could’ve been because Khan could afford to do ALL that. Smh
He tried Jim told him no and he had to sign an NDA Jim was willing until he heard who Tony wanted as wrestlers everybody you ve never heard of and the super smash bros the balding bucks twinkle toes
Hes not there to work hes there to hang out with his buddies finger bang and balding bucks so hes gonna be booked in slapstick matches and hes gonna love it
It is sad to see. He had the hottest debut in aew, better than danielson arriving 2 minutes later ....but he certainly took a tumble downhill after the first match. TK has too many project boys...he needs to pick his top guys and build them strong and consistently.
Yep BUT hhh was about wrestling aew is a circus gymnastic show. The middle aged bloke who's part of group band who make noise and fans sing about Judas says sports entertainers nah just low level entertainers. Wooooo aew
The "sit down in a chair and punch the opponent" spot is the stupidest, most indie garbage spot in wrestling. I can't stand when they do that moronic nonsense.
We all know that Tony Kahn watched WCW, but I'm guessing since he let the crown of thorns spot happen, he didn't watch ECW. Because if he knew about the fallout from Raven's crucifixion of The Sandman, which also featured a crown of thorns made of barbed wire, he probably wouldn't have been okay with Cole and Page pulling that same kind of thing. Hell, that's what caused Kurt Angle to not join ECW that same night! First Nick Gage cutting up Jericho with a pizza cutter before a Dominos commercial, now this thing happens leading up to Easter Sunday!
I don't know what Tony Kahn's problem is. Coffin matches, tornado tag no DQ matches, table matches. Last man standing matches ... Can this guy ever book a simple 1 on 1 win by pinfall or submission in the ring match? Why does every match have to be a stipulation? All he is doing is desensitizing fans to these types of matches which lessens the impact these matches have on the fans had he just booked these matches every once in a while. It is like how the Attitude era changed the steel chair usage in Wrestling. Before the attitude era. A chair gets used and that ended a match. After the attitude era ... get hit with a chair 20 times and win the match anyway. *In a lot of ways the attitude era ruined wrestling. I remember WCW taking a lot of heat because people found it laughable Ric Flair was winning matches because Sensational Sheri and Miss Elizabeth would pass him one of their shoes to use as a weapon while the ref wasn't looking and he would knock his opponent our with the shoe while over on the other channel the Rock was hitting Mankind over the head with a chair 7 times while Mankind was cuffed to the ringpost.
True. The Attitude Era desensitized fans first. Even after it ended, Vince continued doing so for 20 years, with all the immense gimmick matches, most of which got their own PPV every year, these days. Now, Tony is just pissing on the grave.
Two things: RIP Adam Cole. Also I fully believe that AEW exists to give single men 18-30 a chance to feel what the ECW heyday was like since they missed it. The problem there is that this ain’t it. Not even close.
@@MrCamp they literally have nothing in common Ecw is an Edgy alternative Aew is a pro wrestling alternative they literally have nothing in common they only did one flaming table spot but Ecw didn’t invent extreme
There’s a Texas death match or Philly street fight every week in AEW it feels. I like hardcore wrestling but it’s become a stunt fest. Can’t beat the visual of cracking someone over the head with a chair which can be done safely.
AEW, between all the over booking, the over use of false finishes, the hugely inflated roster, the over use of turning the lights out and the over use of the whole "special anouncement" crap is becoming a WCW 2.0 very fast.
They hotshot booked a live Rampage with a main title gimmick match as their main event in hopes of bumping up the ratings because Rampage is completely on the mud, but they didn't even manage to pull in 500k viewers.
The normal rules of a Texas deathmatch are pinfall or submission followed by a ten count and if you pin your opponent or make your opponent submit and they can't answer the count you win.
@@johansvanborg5870 apparently by Paulie who is also Jewish, but Tony Kahn is Muslim who probably really doesn’t care one way or another…he can’t mock Muhammad because he knows what would happen. I don’t know why people got their panties in a bunch it’s got people talking and discussing Jesus
I had to explain to a friend how this wasn't a Texas Death Match... he then said how he wondered if everyone was gonna be offended for the crown of thorns on Good Friday. We both laughed at all of this and now here we are.
They used the belt wrong for the tied to the rope spot... have you ever put a belt around your girl's neck as a leash? Its like that: you take a leather punch and put evenly spaced holes in the belt down to about 3inches from the buckle (because different sized necks, maybe you want to wrap it around the wrist or ankle idk) it works well for what they were going for
Forgot this match happened. I didn’t see social media buzz about this match even if there was. Please take the title off page he’s not bad he’s just not that guy or near that guy maybe in the future he will be. Even omega who I don’t like he created some buzz as champ
Cole is done aftyer this as far as im concerned.... first he loses to a hug from the pocket man, and now hes stuck to the ropes with a belt???? He has looked like a damn fool in AEW
Adam Page just doesn't have "IT" to be a true Pro Wrestling Champion. I'm not sure exactly why either...but as soon as he comes out of the curtain, all I see is mid card level talent and his persona is as flat as a sheet of paper. And he punches like a sissy
@@madddoggnogood1491 Just because it's not important to you doesn't mean ppl don't have right to be upset when it's important to them. It is important to me, i find it incredibly distasteful, and i'm not going to apologize for it.
Crucifixion was the Roman method of execution. The crown of thorns was additional torture. The Romans executed hundreds of thousands, if not millions by crucifixion.
There are people that didn’t like Cole vs Hangman 2? I thought the match was great. Lots of good spots. The outcome doesn’t make the entire match and I don’t recall Cole getting the hell beat out of him. Back and forth - both matches.
"Lots of good spots". This is one of the reasons a lot of people don't care for AEW matches. That's what most of their matches are on any given night. A bunch of good spots after good spots.
Seinfeld went to a confessional, not a rabbi. I remember the priest saying something like "You know you're supposed to kneel, right?" when Jerry is trying to sit on that thing you kneel on.
Why is Adam Cole listed at the weight he is. He's 150pounds max jungle boy Darby Allen for example are the same build as Adam Cole but seem the same size as him I'm 171 to 174 have been 190 plus my ankle was thicker than Adam coles body
Adam Page turning his back to the hard cam was such a perfect example of what kinda World Champion he’s been: Confused,Embarrassing and Amateur. Roman Reigns WOULD NEVER.
He must have not been paying any attention when CM Punk did his blade job because that was the most obvious, blatant blade job I've ever seen done in wrestling. He was literally in the middle of the ring alone facing the camera and you could clearly see him lift his arm up and slide his hand across his forehead which was completely clean beforehand. Then as soon as his hand left his forehead, blood magically appeared. He didn't try to hide it at all. Not to mention, before he cut himself, you could clearly see him holding the blade in between his fingers multiple times before he did it. I like CM Punk but that was a complete shit blade job as far as trying to hide it goes.
Does anyone remember when the bullet club had a pay per view with an anti gun theme? Kenny Omega had to change his catch phrase from bang to boing. That's when I knew this whole deal was garbage
I'm a Christian and I heard they did a "crown of thorns" spot before I watched the match and I was ready for it to be way worse than it was. I thought they were gonna do some sort of Christ imagery but I just saw it as a guy getting barbed wire put on his head before getting dropped on his head to add to the pain. I'm not into death matches so I thought it was a dumb and risky spot, but it didn't offend me. I wouldn't have thought it was a crown of thorns reference had I not heard that beforehand
They not only had two Texas Death Matches in a year, but got the Texas Death Match stipulation wrong both times. ROH did it. TNA did it not ten years ago with at least as many viewers as AEW has now. This is why I was not exited to hear Tony Khan would be booking ROH!.
I had to go back and see what the hub bub was about because when they pulled a chair out with barbed wire hot glued to it I just turn the shit off... it sucked the crown of thorns didn't bother me but the hot glued barbed wire pissed me off... I was waiting for a bedazzled sledgehammer... Goofs
@@segagenesis7708 a couple , Kenny and mox , Adam cole and page , mox and Kingston , did Bryan and mox do it … can’t remember but I know it’s a common spot
Agreed. I’m not religious, but I was watching it and thinking, ‘Are they really doing this? Why?’ That May explain why the ratings went down on Dynamite Wednesday. There were some people legitimately pissed about that and I don’t blame them.
Blame Kevin Nash for this because he started the whole throwing elbows instead of punches. Go look at WrestleMania 11 when he only threw elbows at Michaels the whole damn match. No wonder the crowd booed him and cheered HBK forcing Vince to turn him face the very next night on Raw
The problem with AEW is that they are too focused on pandering to their hardcore fanbase and not trying to draw in new fans. Remember most hardcore fans started off as casual fans.
@@paulprimus1666 I agree. What a lot of today's so called 'Hardcore' fans don't get, is that wrestling's true hardcore fanbase is enormous. The problem is that when it goes away from what Pro Wrestling was and gets too goofy and off the path, they leave. When it regains its essence, they return. You can look at how popular wrestling was in the 80s, across various territories. When the 90s came around, the territories were pretty much gone, WCW was hokey. WWF was even hokier than they'd ever been before. The nWo angle brought back the realism and essence of wrestling and those fans from the 80s came back. Once we entered the 2000s, it went too far into the hardcore realm and sports entertainment realm and the Indy circuit gained more prevalence. Spot fests, little to no selling, spamming false finishes in every other match, horrible story telling in the ring and out, lack of detail. Those fans from the 90s left. Because it was no longer Pro Wrestling. It was Sports Entertainment meets the Indies. If they bring back Pro Wrestling, the true 'Pro Wrestling' hardcore fanbase will come back. That group is pretty much in that 30-55 range and they will drop coin if it's pro wrestling. This is not pro wrestling the way it used to be or the way AEW promised it would be.
It's odd because he is good, but either he or the company has bad ideas that nobody edits or offers alternatives. I really like Hangman, but he seems less important now.
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