Jim Cornette Reviews Kenny Omega vs. Will Ospreay at Wrestle Kingdom 17 

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Love him or hate him, Jim almost always gives credit where it's due.

Kenny vs Osprey was a classic match jim only talks sht because its not mjf or ftr

@@notoriousphenom I listen to Jim cornette because I like him. Right now pro wrestling sucks these days. I don't care if somebody has a 10 star match. The ratings are at an all time low for all wrestling companies. I'm going to be honest it's because nobody likes the snowflake crap. Pro wrestling is not supposed to be easily offended. It's supposed to be offensive. People who didn't even like wrestling watched during the attitude era because of the sexy factor. They could do that today but they refuse to because they're catering to easily offended delicate little snowflakes who are so afraid of seeing naked women lol. It's true. The snowflakes really don't like the female form.

🤣 ... a good year?... a good year? they are starving us, slowly suffocating us, and in some states collecting rain water is becoming illegal. All that leaves is the sun. Once they have/control that. They own the world.. good on you for being a optimist tho 🙃👍

Sephiroth too powerful.

🎶SEPHIROTH🎶

LOL

🤣🤣🤣

It really did😂

That was my tought after I saw this and New YEar's Dash. Kenny knew how to attract the Japanese and had NJPW and Gedo's structure to balance his negatives.

@@Hellwolf36 By definition NJPW has always been the type of company that supplies the ring and wrestlers provide the match. There's no angles or stories that lead to matches.

Facts

Thats because he's not writing his own shit. There's a reason actors need directors and someone else to write the script.

Because adults are running New Japan.

Please no. The countless move after move being kicked out of.. the flips and dives..the no selling.. the fake slow set up moves from high spots urgh its unbearable. Its like watching a bad Street fighter game

@@FreeThinkAlways I play street fighter 🤣 its more like a jrpg or shonen anime fight

@@exiaR2x78 THAT is where the disconnect comes from me I like wrestling in my pro wrestling Japan has a ton of it but some of the stuff they do doesnt translate to western audiences

@CynicallyObnoxious the false finishes being over the top and looking more devastating then the actual finish is a big issue in modern wrestling in general not just limited to Japan. It goes back decades at this point, ever heard that low ki story where he ko's his opponent? I just used games and anime fight sequence as an example cause its more fitting compared to a fighting game.

He can stay in Japan if he wants.

Ugh nerds

@@truthtyperii7727 Not only nerds, but the weebs.

I never thought i'd hear Corny talk about Anime dating Sims like Hatoful Boyfriend, but here we are.

@@XombieLejon66 Cornette should play it for charity 🤣

Professional Wrestling entrances inspired by video games. What a bunch of fucking geeks.

Njpw can make anyone look cool.Look at Jonah

No lol. Japan is Kenny’s home.

They didn't stop them from cosplaying Jasmine from Aladin. But all in all, I love his work at NJPW even the Bucks.

@@drewburnettepodcasts no no he’s Canadian but he lived/lives in Japan

@@drewburnettepodcasts read the comment below yours

You think Tony paid for the use of the song for 1 night?

@@NemesisDestroys why would Tony pay for something on a new japan card ? You guys need to think before you reply

@@sionrouge1697 because he’s the money mark bruh

@@Kingofthekop1 money mark for who ? Vince is the biggest money mark of all time. 15 million paid out to side puss.

@@Kingofthekop1 I don't like him very much. But you're reaching and sounding childish.

Anyone with a brain can see it dude.

I mean you have to agree because the guy that tells you how to think told you so.

@@robertanderson1690 i mean. As a longtime viewer of NJPW. It seems like it's the only time Kenny cares, I've stopped watching AEW/WWE, so maybe Kenny improved something since, but it seems like he barely gives a fuck in America lol.

@@KOHoxton I recon he is told to slow down on tv

@@MP-py1ei I'd be surprised if anyone in AEW has ever told anyone to slow down. Ngl.

i feel like jims point about them proving the business is fake it's pretty wishy washy at best. like surely he understands at this point that in the "modern match" the jake the snake ddt in the middle of ring is not going to get it done.

@@jonjones9917 no his point is all those flips and kicks and flying around and lazy “ring psychology” looks suuuuuper fake we know it’s fake but they can still make it look somewhat real but it’s like they insist on making it look fake as possible

@@yelhsanosnhoj6602hat doesn’t look fake about Hogan overselling getting bear hugged and having his back mangled, but then picking up a dude much bigger than him? The fact is, if you look at much of wrestling with a realistic view, the most realistic version is chain wrestling and catch as catch can wrestling. Everything else if you’re subjective, doesn’t look early as real.

@@JoeChianelli Nope, I love watching Flair vs Steamboat, Steamboat vs Macho Man, The Funks going crazy, Misawa vs Hansen etc. Difference is, I’m not close minded to wrestling no matter the eras.

@@jonjones9917 and that makes it fake. What’s so hard to understand

Infinitely better

Can we get NJPW Kenny Omega instead of AEW Kenny Olivier?

True, but isn't that damning with faint praise, like being the tallest midget?

I’d even put impact Kenny over aew Kenny

NJPW matches are better simply by slowing matches down and letting everything breathe. That means more emotion, storytelling, and better selling.

If Kenny was by himself in AEW he would of done what’s best for business and have Punk back. I get the feeling the real problem is Matt Jackson

😅😅😅

Omega vs. Osprey Best of Eleven each week on Dynamite for the next three months.

@@BlackBearNE good one😂

Lose*

It’s spelled LOSE Jesus Christ why can no one spell that fuckin word?

Ha ha ha

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It mostly benefited from Kenny being finaly without injury. He was injured even before he left NJPW.

@@henriklarssen1331 Even a virtigo’d Kenny was having this level of match with Naito at the time

@@ReservedSpot I mean first, beside Kenny i would say Okada, Naito and Ospreay are also one of the best 5 or 10 Wrestler in the World. So it helps having one of the best with you in the Ring. Also his injury got worse every Years, o its even a surprise that he had so many great Matches in that state. But from now on i expect him to have alot more great Matches than before.

Are you saying this was good? Countless move after move being kick out of.. boring pointless tables.. fake looking high spots that take 30 seconds to set up.. no selling.. flips and dives.. urgh its unbearable. 6 stars from Dave for this is embarassing. That clown never gave a Kurt Angle match even 5 stars. Heck this garbage somehow got give more stars than the rock vs hogan.

@@FreeThinkAlways good? Better than anything they did in aew. Meltzer stars? Miss me with that nonsense.

@@JaculaDudek It's the same thing as AEW it's a kenny match. Tables.. dives... 1000 kick outs..silly faces..no selling.. what's different?

The mass hysteria is more referring to the bucks. Japan didnt give a fuck about them they were a small part of a faction that was massively over. There role was similar to that of nwo b squad during that era while AJ was the leader. Nakamura vs AJ at wk in 2016 was such a good match made me suspend disbelief

@@JaculaDudek he didnt mention meltzer or stars once. Take your meds.

You're right

And the post match interviews of Will and jay

Yup yup they were great

Then he wouldn’t be able to say wtf were they doing. Jim is more or less set on what he considers good. Ospreay and Omega killed it.

I mean in Japan it feels like Entrance attire always plays a much bigger part than over here. Especially when it comes to elaborate robes and coats. Then there's Suzuki who just comes out with a towel on his head and "KAZA NI NARE!!". . .

NJPW has had a few deals with Tekken. Had BC shirts in the Games, plus their culture as a whole has a lot of connections and love for it.

​​@Random Fagget Rikidozan, the founder of Japan's first promotion is literally a national hero. Many of Japanese wrestlers have political careers thanks to their wrestling careers including Inoki, the founder of New Japan.

Omega was rumored for the new yakuza game.

Kenny Omega worked years ago with Toby Fox aka the creator of Undertale.

Best camera work in the business. If only WWE did similar with their angles

I think they really make the most with their recourses on the camera angles. It really makes it much more of a big deal.

I was shocked at how good the camerawork was for this match. The shot of Kenny pulling up Will’s arms as Will goes “f*ck you” was perfect

Bro the legendary Will Ospreay and Ibushi top rope hurricurina counter to landing it was incredible.

It's good but they did totally miss the "Here's Kenny!" moment.

Big slick Jim

As if Kenny gives two shits about what some homophobic cunt may or may not think about him

Are you high? I'm not the biggest WWE fan but no one comes close to matching their sense of spectacle and grandeur

contrast with the last show they did in the US...all of New York City and they use a dingy night club

Okada with the raptor entrance was so good!

wwe packed 70,000 into a stadium to watch a very good ppv with fans that are actually reacting to what they’re seeing, and you choose to compare it to njpw 😂

@@kingomar69 WWE looks too polished and clean. NJPW while looking grand still looks like an MMA or Boxing event. It's the way it's shot and produced. I feel that NJPW is how wrestling in general should look.

You took the words out of my mouth. That was a great comparison.

Right lol. Or it's like going to an NBA game, and both teams just go back and forth down the court, taking turns doing spectacular dunks. It'd be kinda cool for the first 2 minutes. But after awhile it's like, what's the point? They're not playing basketball. And then to have some weirdo, delusional analyst after the show try and tell us it's the greatest style of basketball ever. Its ridiculous.

@@josevillarreal5955 Like if every game was the All Star game.

Have to go easy with Brian. He's very fragile. Concussions are all too real for him. One V trigger or an onward landing on the OWA and that could be it.

thank you! I've been saying that to my friends for the longest time ,yes I'm bias because I was at the building for that match but man your so right

They only fought once?

@@ronmichaels9206 Yeah they had that hype match that went to time limit

It's really weird to me how Tony picks what matches/feuds to pull the trigger on instantly and which he wants to let slow cook. I know there have been injuries and stuff but Bryan and Omega feels like it should've had a runback by now.

I shit you not, I JUST said this on the latest video.

Finally someone said it finally

That was a horrible match. Mid way both gave up and it showed

@@sionrouge1697 A story four years in the making, Kazuchika Okada versus Jay White was a match that had an unenvious task ahead of it. Not only was it following the early leading MOTY contender, but it had to put the finishing touches on a storyline that began with promised betrayal and spent nearly half a decade growing into what it currently is. And these two delivered a genuinely outstanding match when they could've easily been the second coming of Randy Orton vs. Triple H having to follow Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker. White may very well be the best counter wrestler in the industry today and Okada simply lives for the big moments. I call that a match made in wrestling heaven. These two beat the hell out of one another while telling an incredible story that was essentially the polar opposite of what we had seen in the match prior. While Ospreay was desperate to prove he had surpassed Omega by doing what he had never done before, White was out to do the same by simply doing what he had done in 80% of his previous tries. Wrestle Kingdom Okada is simply a different type of competitor. For all of his heel tactics, that made White an almost sympathetic figure-until he made us hate him again within half a second of feeling that sympathy. White was 4-1 against Okada in singles competition and has received a fraction of the praise that The Rainmaker receives for leading this company-and that lack of acclaim has driven him mad. The only thing that had driven White even crazier: The fact that, despite being able to defeat Okada, he was never able to break him. Rocky Romero compared White to Triple H on commentary, funnily enough, and I actually find that to be the perfect comparison. He has a counter for everything because he plans his offense around the moves of his opponents rather than his own desire for innovation. And he knows just what buttons to push to get under an opponent's skin. He truly is New Japan's Cerebral Assassin. Unfortunately, Okada is one of the few counterpunchers who can match White-and whatever he may lack in violent inclinations he more than makes up for with sheer determination and will. I think this match was doomed to be under-appreciated-and, in front of a crowd with less energy given what previously transpired, less than elevated by a raucous Tokyo Dome. Plus, I think there will be a bit of a curve when it comes to breaking habits as far as fans who have been attending live shows finally being able to cheer again is concerned. Keep in mind: Those live show viewing habits were learned over a much longer period of time in Japan than in the U.S. Another topic for another day, I suppose. That said, Okada vs. White was a brilliant final chapter in their current story arc and I truly cannot wait to see what is next for both. Wrestle Kingdom was awesome and these two played a massive part in that. from reddit user heelturnsheadlocks

@@jonjones9917 I'm not saying it was trash I'm just saying that after watching this sport (I SAID SPORT) For 37 years now you can tell when wrestlers are like HELL NAH. Like JIM said whoever follows Kenny vs Will had a problem. I don't care who it was. It was to athletic and to much of a battle.

It was an ok match not great not awful I would have preferred Jay to win but I know why Okada won

@Jon Jones man submitted an article with that 😆

They aired this on AXS?

@@alexchapman8927 yes they did right after Impact this week.

But it's gay and infantile

Exactly the same with Bray Wyatt and all his spooky stuff. Guy wants to be a Hollywood horror director/actor and uses wrestling to live out his dream

@@wh5601 not even close but nice try

@@Yogaflame911 it actually makes more sense in the context of wyatt

One year there was a live rendition of his theme and it was a pretty cool entrance.

The entrances at WK bigger, buy only because WWE has mega cheaped out on music, titantron vids, Pyro, and the stages. The ugly generic giant LED screen really kills the show. WWE could slaughter NJPW with both presentation and star power if they cared to.

They just used to wwe style of wrestling

He's stuck in the 80's that's why, he wants to see good guy vs a bad gaijing

Would make it more interesting lol

Big guy gets dunked on makes it better.

In what way. Can I introduce you to the boogieman? sexual chocolate?

Absolutely, new Japan murder Kenny is the best Kenny.

I didn’t watch any of it the promos. But the commentators easily made it known that Ospreay was the face

He's a heel to Ospreay but not to the crowd

@@NhBleker true I realized that after he got a personality shift like 2020-ish. He can go…

I wish mfs would stop disrespecting Lucha Libre, by calling it gYmNaStiCs. If you got a bias, that’s fine. But don’t disrespect whole arts of wrestling, that defers from what you grew up watching.

His singles matches with Pac early on and Daniel Bryan remain the best matches aew have ever put on.

Him vs Christian was underrated

Bucks & Jericho. He has had very good-great matches in AEW when he is in against serious opponents. Even at the start of the Full Gear PPV six man he was actually wrestling, then the Bucks came in & started doing their gymnastics garbage show & then he started joining in-although still to a lesser extent than them & the opposition.

The more I look at NJPW matches with Kenny and Osprey, the more I agree with this.

He literally said that was his assumption?

I can hear him now: "why in the hell is there more than ONE 'Final Fantasy'?"

@@messey12 lmao

Who cares?

@Dropkick Nation Clearly you care a lot about this channel. 113 comments on this channel alone, most of which are filled with negativity and combativeness. YOU CARE, dick breath.

Exactly. A video game/anime character that happens to be a wrestler

Of coarse not. This is wrestling.

Damn, hook me up with your supplier. Imagination that good only comes with chemical assistance.

It's the only way he can get attention. Guys like me show up to listen and laugh at the old guy who doesn't understand wrestling. He's riding Omega's coattails for crumbs.

Or lack of brain capacity. Sound like a juvenile who lives in his mom's basement. You know he was a Mama's boy.

Delusional.

NJPW takes wrestling as a sport more serious than the American companies. But the japanese indy shows are completely nuts... literally unwatchable

Hogan didn't "phone it in" when he was in States. He worked with a limited moveset in the states because his gimmick didn't require him to be Bret Hart to be over. Kids and adults back then didn't care nearly as much about someone being a technical wizard like the ppl who obsess over someone's workrate today.

@@decepticonxhunter4850 You sound young. Even then, we all knew Hogan was a fraud. The super young kids fell for Hulkamania, teens and adults made fun of him.

@@john_savageullshit, if that were the case hogans pops would sound hi pitched like Cena’s. Hogan pops were universal, man woman and child. Maybe you and your precursor to the internet buddies were iwc nerds and thought you were cool by making fun of him but Hogan was universal with casuals.

Accurate assessment.

That's spot on

True

No

Too many curse words cheapened Will’s promo

@@EliC09🎯

@@EliC09 ALL THE TIME. Fuck is his favorite word and that's all he knows how to say. It's horrible. His accent is horrible and his promo is horrible.

He said c*not a hundred times it sucked

I watched this with a friend who's very new to wrestling, and my roomie who started watching 2-3 years ago, and all 3 of us enjoyed this match more than anything on the card. This was effortlessly the most interesting and exciting match. Jim has no idea what fans want; it's why he never had much success in the business.

@@UnexpectedDanger he's just stucked in the 80's 🤷🏻‍♂️ In the 90's he was already stuck in the past when he worked for WWE, so imagin now in 2023......

@@Kr4ShSkeL Delusional.

@@kywo209 What ? You are the delusionnal fanboy here

@@Kr4ShSkeL Keep crying and telling yourself that.

"I have not enjoyed much of anything in AEW " I really don't get that level of hatred for the company.

@@latinonoir I don't hate it at all! There's things I've enjoyed but it's usually overtaken by stuff I just don't like about pro wrestling. Mainly the way the stories are planned out (usually not at all) by Tony. WWE is not free from this sin! Rollins and Fiend in the Cell anyone? Rey having his eye taken out?! Horrible stuff. With AEW, it was sold as a sports based presentation but is so far from it. Orange Cassidy doing the same old same old. Wrestlers not being used (FTR). When they are used, Tony doesn't know what to do (Wardlow). And pretty much anything with the Bucks. They are awful to me in everything they do that we see and what we don't, they sound even worse. There's good there. A lot of talented people! But when the EVPs put their ego above what people want to see? There's far more bad at the moment sadly.

Memeltzer's creaming in his pants!

Made Meltzer cream his pants: +4 stars

Meltzer gave the damn match almost 7 stars...he gave it like 6 1/2 or Six and three quarters stars...something absurd like that

I watched a highlight reel of this match. It looked like 2 guys randomly interlocking limbs, jumping up and crashing down in unison, then flopping around overselling. It was so fast, so many convoluted looking "moves" It literally didnt look like anything. Just two people having oddly choreographed seizures. In no way in any universe is that match "better" than anything that Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels or Randy Savage (i could go on and on) have ever done.

Meltzer popped a Viagra prior to the match, guaranteed.

Enjoyed? I'm 25 minutes into the video and all he does is complain how unrealistic the match was and how it made no sense.

@@novideostoday you didn't notice the backhanded compliments?

His analysis as I listen to this is how I wish he always approached these guys like the Elite. I like when Jim is willing to recognize that there may be rationale for whatever they’re choosing to do because of a different crowd or style etc. I think recognizing that they may do things you dislike and disagree with sre being done because this or that segment of people like it adds a lot of credibility to your analysis and keeps people listening to it. For instance when Jim basically evisorates people like Kenny as having no talent and the like largely because he dislikes what Kenny does it takes away from what he’s saying and gives people who don’t want to listen an excuse to brush him off as being a hater. Kenny and those like him aren’t my style at all and so I don’t consume what they put out. But at the same time just because I don’t like their style doesn’t mean I don’t think they’re talented at what it actually is that they do. And I recognize also that their product just isn’t for me but there are others who enjoy it and consume it and that’s ok. But despite it not being my taste on occasion I enjoy watching it because the athleticism is entertaining if immoderation for me. An example is I went to a live dynamite right before the pandemic shut everything down. Kenny had an iron man match with PAC that had a spot where there was a shooting star through a table for example. Not something I’d usually enjoy but it was really neat to see live and entertaining. The one thing I guess I wish would change with those like omega is possibly not going so wild on false finishes and the like so often. It would be better to me if it was rare so a match like this with a shit ton of them would be a bigger deal.

@@Matt-cr4vv shut up lol

As The Backstreet Boys manager once said "Boys, there's a reason why we don't let you write the songs..." If Omega would listen to Corny and the other legends who made the business, he could be great. Problem is, he won't listen.

@@bipolarminddroppings (Sigh) As usual Bruce, you are right. Though I hate to admit it, because I just wanna fight.

Omega vs Danielson perfect example

@@alazkaalazka6087 That’s the absolutely perfect example. That actually looked like wrestling. Like a combat sport. If we could turn back the clock 35 years, put Omega in the ring with Steamboat or Flair and you’d get gold. Omega vs 1987 Randy Savage would be an all timer….just so long as Omega wasn’t the one calling/planning the match. He’s a good enough athlete and looks like a good enough athlete that he can pull it off. You can’t say that about his little buddies the Hardly’s. Omega vs Savage….Randy would get him in size but it’s believable enough. The Bucks vs the Road Warriors? Or the Steiners? Please.

Omega having the best matches of the last 10 years Jim Cornette dickriders : he's a decent dance partner

That entrance was fire

It’s hilarious how much a pathetic, cucked hypocrite Cornette is over wrestling. You can completely dismantle his modern arguments in seconds but you have his loser fanbase in every comment section just repeat his shite with absolutely no sign of an original thought.

99% of his criticisms were not valid, really not worth a listen, it was 30min of Jim Cornette exposing himself as being completely out of touch

@@Kr4ShSkeL So out of touch that everyone has to listen to him.

God forbid anyone else be critical who isn't actively working in the industry if Cornette doesn't even qualify. Please think before you post.

Cornette doesn't get the finish because he doesn't get wrestling anymore You don't need to know the Ibushi référence to enjoy the finish, they build to it, it was not flat at all

He said nicer things to Omega when he wrestled Danielson

From what I've heard before he thout will waspretty good unless he's against someone who'll want to do flip central like the young bucks.

Omega is an embarrassment. He's a prime example of what happens when you let the nerds take over the wrestling business.

@@robertm.3520 Nerds ruin everything they touch through a combination of the obsession and their refusal to engage criticism.

Omega’s gimmick is an Otaku. Are people still unaware of this?

Every wrestler plays a character, Omega isn't doing anything different.

@@joshuaDstarks I think it's been more appropriate to call him a weaboo, since he seems to like these things like anime or jrpgs on a very casual level

Thanking him for doing such a stupid review is ridiculous I swear to god if cm punk did the exact same match he would say that it was amazing And you clearly didn't know anything about the story of the match if you expected less "power Creep"