Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer's Constant Tweets About Him 

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Um...uh ....um ...so ...you know like ...um your comment is um (pregnant pause) five star worthy ...Dave Meltzer

@@johngallagher72 exactly!

He has the cadence of a typical questionative teenage girl. "Like like, uuuuuuuuuuuhm, youknow. He came iiiiin(?)". It's like he tones every ending of a comment with an invisible question mark. And look, I'm mumbling like a sonofabitch so I'm in no position to say anything. But if I'm gonna be on a podcast or whatever the hell it's seen as: I'd try to atleast not clog everything up with useless meandering that leads to his endless supply of "ums youknows likelike" and his constant interruptions of a much more qualified speaker. For fucks sake, I think I'd rather hear Russo speak than Meltzer.

@@SolidMike84 imagine a conversation between Russo and Meltzer. "Bro, I made Stone Cold and The Rock bro. Bro, it was the greatest ever bro." "Uhhhhh, yeah. Uh, you know, the Attitude Era...uh, five stars."

Quick clean and to the point, I like it

Exactly

Metlzer is a glorified mark, that's it.

Seriously who the fuck is Dave Meltzer... y do think he’s the god of wrestling

@Magnificent Mongo Slade, you're 100% right, he & PWI'S Mike Johnson & other dirt sheet writers come across as know- it- alls & "experts" on the business & don't know shit at all.

It's insane he never talked before since how good he is in wwe.

@@saloz9483 Sami is the most entertaining IC champion after The MIZ...

@@momentarystudies2951 Jericho was pretty entertaining too

BIG FACTS

Wouldn't you know who won the pony?

Biggggggg fuckinnnn factssssss

This is spot on. Some false finishes are awesome but seeing someone kick out of spear or any other finisher 5 times in a match is pure bs. Bring back more personal fueds and better ring psychology.

Dave likes just pro wrestling, not the entertainment aspect

@@peterlabarbera6741 it did work a couple of times. Like at WM31 with Roman refusing to die and then Seth taking advantage. Other than that it's basically videogame wrestling. A finish should be a finish.

Yeah. I can't understand how so few younger wrestlers can balance fancy moves with charisma and character building. You need both these days. And they need to stop hating on big guys that get pushed. There are not enough big guys that can somewhat work these days.

@@peterlabarbera6741 totally agree ,iv been saying this for a long time as well ,5 star matches dont bring ratings up and any women's matches that go on longer than 3 min are not believable.

He lost all credibility if he ever really had any when he broke his 5 star system for Omega and Okada. Those were 4 star matches at best, absolutely amazing spots but not outstanding wrestling matches.

@@marcespinoza6068 Shibata vs Okada is better than all the Okada/Omega matches and even that match was too long and dragged out a bit in the middle but was great in the beginning and the end...

@@marcespinoza6068 plus if i might add, I would only rate them at 3 starts cause you knew all that shit was coreographed. A good match has to feel like theres really animosity between the two participants, or atleast it should make you forget its scripted. But with all the shit they did you knew in the spots that they were helping each other make the shit they were making

@Nathaniel Baxter yeah I guess should have clarified better...I am not really a fan of matches that are more than 30 minutes but that just a personal preference...I know it was shorter than the Okada omega matches but to me it was still long; still my favorite Okada match especially because I love how it starts o like a wrestling match on the mat and Okada realizing Shibata is better than him when it comes to grappling and chain wrestling...

@@marcespinoza6068 he actually gave a ric flair match 6 stars in 1989 so you are wrong

Isn't that a part of the spectrum

@@graham2sexy955 it is

Cornett is not on the spectrum he's just the old guy with a billion and five stories understand Jim has worn every hat booked, managed ,produced ,creative and owner

It's almost like they've found out that I needed a video of Jim ranting about Meltzer. I swear I searched for this last night while playing 2K19 lmao

It's even gotten to the point where Russo is now cutting promos on Meltzer going against Jim. 2020 is a strange time when Russo and Jim have a common enemy.

Time to put my feet up and enjoy

Lmaoo

Jim Cornette fans are wired. You salivate over an old man talking shit about another old man. Your life is pathetic

It keeps getting more and more relevant.

@@freddiemcrae428 seriously!!

@@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393more and more

Even better aging now

wrestling's chris jenner .

Haha love this comment

That's a shout

*Cornette vs. AEW

@@Vagajammer It's still child's play compared to Cornette vs Russo lol

Don’t forget arguably saving WWE in the early 2000’s by being the head of the training school that produced some of their biggest stars.

@@85futureshock Exactly Thank you

Also atleast partially being the reason for the creation of The Hell in a Cell match

@@rexventura4603 I was there for that match in STL, 1997 Badd Blood. I’ll never forget that night. Crazy to think Cornette was one of the minds behind it.

How does Jim's boot taste, Jesus.

35:27 35:28 35:30 35:51

That’s the point, that’s why people say he’s biased Anything negative towards AEW and he goes off on one as if youve personally attacked him and his family Is Dave being paid?? Who knows BUT he has some sort of investment in AEW which is why totally goes defensive for AEW

@@peterlee6374 Not only is AEW the only promotion to ever aclnowledge and befriend him but one of the Young Buck's finishers is "The Meltzer driver" used to be The Indietaker but they renamed it after Dave's dad after his passing. They have Dave by his ego and his heart strings. He's an AEW stan for life.

@@mimoe7587 look at this week announcing during omega entrance that he broke meltzers star ratings They are playing Dave yet he can’t see it

AEW fans are Clowns. They think that shit with Jericho and MJF was "Gold" when it was actual trash. If WWE had done that, they would've shit all over it.

@@emperorpalpatine1228 100%

Same. 😆

Me too...been binge watching mid south wrestling 1983 & 1984. Just saw Cornette tar & feather Magnum TA on the 1 12 1984 episode. when "heat" was "heat" & a backdrop got a pop

I like to compare aew to tna back in the day because they both are/were in the position of no 2 wrestling company. TNA was miles away better than AEW.

I was born in 85 as well and this new wrestling is trash. Nobody sells anything, too many superkicks, too many false finishes.

42 here. Been watching since 85. First match I ever saw was in WWF. The Missing Link managed by Bobby Heenan whipped some jobber. A few months later I found AWA and then NWA. As a kid in the late 80s I watched everything I could find. WWF on Monday, Saturday, and Sunday. NWA Saturday and Sunday. UWF/Mid South Saturdays. AWA or World Class Monday through Friday. Even found the Maritimes and ICW a few times. Then everything I rented on VHS. Stayed loyal to WWF during the Monday Night Wars. Eventually in the mid 2000's I found ROH. When AEW was announced, as an old fan, I was genuinely excited. By the third show, they lost me. That show had a main event of Jericho vs Darby Allin for the AEW title in a Philly Street Fight. Ok a street fight is like a fall count anywhere, hardcore, no dq. Same rule is anything goes. So as the match gets going I hear JR say the ref will be enforcing the 5 count on the ropes. Hold up a minute. This is a street fight. There's no DQ. What the hell is the ref gonna do if a guy doesn't break the ropes on 5??? That was enough. I've tried to tune in here and there to AEW and I just can't get into it. I can watch NXT, but that's all I can watch from WWE. I was enjoying Corgan's NWA before covid hit. But when it comes to AEW, it's the fanbase I can't deal with. I have never encountered a bigger group of snobs in my life that flat out refuse to call AEW out when they shit the bed. Thank God I have FuboTV. I catch MLW on there quite a bit. Best stuff I've watched in the last year or so.

@ Mlw is really good wrestling, good storylines. JACOB Fatu is a future star Imo

@@ricosalvaje5802 Become friends/date the OP. Can't be coincidence you're both born in the same year when the earth has been going for 200,000 years or so. 1 in 200,000 and you matched, plus we'd all love a good romance for Jim Cornette's channel!

And everyone of those names for buried because of DUMB ASS BOOKING. Both from Vince AND Tony Khan.

​@@coreyhall1150AJ is literally a legend in WWE idk what you're talking about

You got it. Wrestling crowds nowadays are filled with these entitled annoying fux who think the show is about them and their ghey little chants

@@pandavelli8176 yup but now more and more people are realising so hopefully we will have another attitude era soon, it's coming.

Kind of like people in comment sections who think they know it all.

We are now finding out why people of previous generations who actually knew what they were doing couldn't stand Dave. Guys like Dusty, Ole etc. They knew he was bad news and kept him at arm's length.

@@user-fu3fu4ye7j the next pro wrestling boom will be when two guys in a sport like MMA get together and start working finishes. Just like how pro wrestling was born in the first place.

No wonder why Jim cuts promos for days with anything comes to mind

Prichard and Bischoff both said they didn’t see anything in them either. So it was basically everybody.

@@Matt-cr4vv honestly not that fucking hard to see. Remember seeing them in tna as generation me, which is hilarious how their careers have played out with their perception, and thought they look like two little and skinny boys who were coming from the backyard wrestling events.

I swear Corny put a nice flavor on the final parts of that Steen-Generico feud, I mean watch their promos and you'll see.

Weren't the Bucks like the nWo B-team of the Bullet Club? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they just second third bananas over in Japan? Because I've looked over a lot of their stuff and they just don't seem that remarkable. And these days are just more self-indulgent because of their cushy jobs.

Don't think Corny thought Steen sucked. He thought the gimmick sucked and didn't like the person, but he was happy with the ring work.

You’re right Omega. NJPW booked him wonderfully. Then he came to AEW, and he’s just been shit since. His feud with Moxley was literally the only thing interesting about his run so far. I love Omega but this is a fact.

Exactly this was very well put

What promotions has Jim been successful in? His own promotion, Smokey Mountain Wrestling, went out of business a matter of months after Rick Rubin (a multimillionaire music producer) stopped paying the bills. His booking run in WWF in 1996-early 1997 led to Nitro demolishing Raw in ratings and WWF nearly going out of business (the NWA revival angle that Jim booked in 1997 was particularly embarrassing). His booking run in ROH led to the company losing live gate attendance and DVD sales (their lifeblood at the time) and his run as TNA booker led to further declining ratings for an already struggling company. Jim has had the book for 4 major promotions, including promotions with billionaire backers, and has failed colossally every single time. Dude is 0-4. This isn't my opinion, but a recounting of history backed up by facts. Anyone with even a mild knowledge of pro wrestling history knows this. I'm not trying to insult you but what promotions, in your mind, has he been remotely successful in? I feel dumb for typing this out because you're not going listen and learn, because it doesn't fit your narrative, but if you are going to write comments about wrestling at least be slightly informed.

@@murdyrdoll I'm not an expert, but wasn't he good at Ohio Valley wrestling? Also Corny was the second greatest manager ever, which is a lot more than Meltzer is. Smokey Mountain was very respected, it was just founded during the time when the business was going down. I'm not saying that Corny is the greatest promoter ever, but he is a lot better than some & he is definitely greater than Meltzer who has no experience on running a show.

@@vanderful2397 OVW was a development promotion that ran at a huge loss and drew between 75-200 people a night, then Jim got fired from the job in 2005. I wouldn't call that remotely successful. Also Smokey Mountain was semi well liked in the early 90s (ironically, Meltzer put it over in his news letter) because WWF was doing voodoo curse angles and WCW had Robocop in angles, where Smokey Mountain presented rasslin' form the 70s. It wasn't well respected, just seen as more serious than the big 2. As soon as ECW, a truly innovative product, came along, Smokey Mountain was no longer interesting to anyone outside of the small live audiences they drew in the south (the promotion always ran at a loss). Finally, saying Cornette is better than Meltzer at something that Meltzer has never done is silly. Somebody who goes swimming and nearly drowns is still a better swimming than somebody that has never gone swimming.

@@murdyrdoll I think you are mostly right. However I don't think you can judge development territories really. OVW couldn't succeed financically, because everytime somebody was getting over they would get called to the big leagues & their hands were quite tied. I mean they couldn't have member of Aryan Brotherhood trying to lynch Shelton Benjamin, because WWE wouldn't like etc. I think their primary objective was just to prepare people for the big leagues & making money was extra. NXT is or at least was inprofitable too. I also remembered how Meltzer used to love SMW. Anyway like I said that was a bad time for wrestling, so I don't you can blame Corny for the fall of SMW. I think Corny's legacy as a boss should be calculated on his success in the ROH & WWE. Anyway I obviously can't say that he was successful in running those shows, however I still think he had a great mind for the business. I guess in many ways he is like Russo, he needs somebody above him, who has a clear vision & who is more diplomatic. Corny sounds like a guy who isn't that good with people who he doesn't respect & I don't think he is a good negotiator with tv people & sponsors. I seem to remember that he was very confused when Vince told him that "In this business you have to learn to eat like & try to like the taste of it" etc. If Corny would have been responsible for WWE's tag team division in early 2000s for example, I'm sure that would have been great. I also believe in him when he says that wrestling suffered greatly, because people used to hotshot the business in late 90s. For example the last brutal ECW matches were shit, because they had already done everything cool & now they only had stupid shit left (for example many of the New Jack's matches). I see the last years of ECW as huge black mark on Heyman's legacy. I think he is a capable boss & his opinions should have a lot of weight, because I don't really think there are much better bookers than him in the US anymore. If you want to see better bookers, you should watch Japanese or perhaps Mexican wrestling, but in the US he is a lot better than most who are still alive.

@@vanderful2397 First off, I appreciate having a civilized discussion about wrestling with somebody online that doesn't involve a bunch of insults. You seem like a good, reasonable dude. I still feel like you are giving Cornette credit that he does not deserve. I agree with you that OVW was not meant to be profitable, but if he was perceived as doing a good job then he wouldn't have been fired. Smokey Mountain ran at the same time as ECW, and ECW continued to grow (and shaped the direction of the big 2) while Smokey Mountain fizzled out because the booking was just re-hashed booking from the 70s. If Cornette's ideas were good, the promotion would have stayed in business and been profitable. But his ideas were uninteresting to most wrestling fans and the promotion went out of business as soon as his multi-millionaire backer stopped paying the bills. I will say that Cornette was a fantastic manager, a good promo and even a decent commentator (aside from his high pitched man-baby voice). That said, him in a booking capacity has cost those companies (that were foolish enough to put him in that role) money/ratings/sales/etc. without fail. He is a bad booker and his ideas about what draws in wrestling are flat out wrong. His track record has consistently proves this for 3 decades. Its not his lack of people skills that caused all of the companies he worked for to lose money/fans/ratings, but his antiquated boring ideas on what draws in wrestling. I agree that he would be an asset to company in teaching the young guys how to cut better promos, or as a manager, but not as a booker or even an idea person.

No way the Bucks are better than Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards tag team I thought those guys were an awesome tag team least those guys sold than the fucking Bucks

Benjamin n haas or the young boys/bucks....wolves vs young boys the young boys aren't on that level. I tried wrestling and saw several young buck type characters. What bucks and co need to do is seek advice from wrestlers and stop flipping twirling etc every 30 seconds

A god awful take from Dementia Dave. Ring of Honor had the American Wolves, the Kings of Wrestling, the Briscoe Brothers, and Team Angle. And he wanted them to push Max Buck and Jeremy Buck. Just no.

Cant believe he compared the Bucks to the Midnight Express is laughable.

motor city machine guns were one of the better teams in TNA iMPACT. The adrenaline rush was real.

I believe if Dave agreed with Corny he’ll stop making money.

If old friends where toxic and bringing you down there is nothing wrong with that! I stopped being friend with lots of people when I got older it’s just part of life! Some grow up some don’t! My old fried sets in Knox county jail tonight gonna be there awhile so good thing I wasn’t around Him or I may be there to!

@@tammyforbes2101 if cornette is so bad why do you and all of us listen? Do you really believe jim was taking dave down? If anything it was the opposite

Alvarez is a little better, but just a little. Listen, read, how they described WCW or TNA. Mostly fair criticism. ROH, Dragon Gate, Chikara, fair, fair, fair. AEW, Alvarez treats it with kid gloves, verbally speaking while Meltzer all but blows it. Alvarez would rightly talk about the TNA ladder matches with Aries and Hardy, Meltzer would rightly talk about the ROH ladder matches with Steen and Generico but the AEW guys can hurt themselves much worse for less reason and four stars, five stars! If Meltzer was consistent and people started hating on him, that would be one thing, but he's changed.

I didmt even know who he was. I honestly didn't. Then I saw him on that program with Vince and the ring boy scandal and I was like "Oh that's him" and moved on and didn't even REMEMBER him only reason I know his name is because of Corny.

This is possibly where Cornette does deserve criticism - I don't think he copes well with certain personality types. As much as he could see what some of these guys had to offer, he maybe doesn't have the patience or the insight to find a way to speak to them. Is that the case with Zayn? The two personality clashes got in the way of Jim helping Zayn develop in the way they both really wanted? Just a thought

@@ishoottheyscore8970 it's not symmetric. Sami Zayn just has to worry about Sami Zayn, Cornette had the whole book. You can't expect your boss, for lack of a better term, to spend more energy in cultivating a relationship with you than you're willing to.

@@mrbadguysan Which is fine on an individual level, but what about when it's a wider pattern across multiple people? I'm not saying it's definitely a problem, but it does seem like a question asking at least.

@MemphoWrasslin1 - but what it they were willing to change that when someone asked them to do it in a different way? Were they unwilling to change because of how Cornette addressed them, or did the WWE people find a better way to make them understand what the changes would achieve? I'm not saying it's definitely one way or another, but it is a possible criticism

@@ishoottheyscore8970 Money would be the main reason for that.

agree 100%

@Joshua Sharwood yeah and Bryan loves AEW but he wasn't going to let that cloud his judgement. What happened with Matt Hardy was ridiculous and Dave was there pushing the company line just like he spins all the bad stuff they do

he has problems dicussing injuries/any womens match

@Joshua Sharwood he’s still Dave’s lackey

Which time matt almost got killed? I'd love to find the corny clip

The gayest phrase ever.

Lmao

CURRENT YEAR!

@KaneMagus Using "CE" and "*eye roll*" is also incredibly gay. get off twitter/reddit

@@Fausto_4841 how

Doesn’t Dave do that like every week? I can’t remember a time either him or his cohost went a whole episode without pointing out something was illogical or didn’t work.

hol up i’m confused, what’s the problem with sonny kiss??

@@MrTambourineMan. that's true. But Dave also, doesn't shit on the things that suck about AEW, to the extent he will shit on WWE's things that suck just as much... Dave is not impartial. And that's a fact.

@@ineverexisted7009 Nothing, it's just that homophobic wrestling fans hate him because they are insecure about their sexuality.

@@ineverexisted7009 There's a big difference between Sonny Kiss and Goldust.

Lmfao

Was supposedly the 3rd one instead of Hogan in NWO.

@@TheKestevon Vince Mcmahon would have been the 4th 😂😂😂

I don’t know about that. “Uncle Dave” criticizes AEW all the time. Just this week he criticized the Young Bucks segment. And did Dave Melzter say that Marko Stunt is the next Rey Mysterio in those words?

@@MrTambourineMan. yes he did

@@MrTambourineMan. He did, defended Jericho's stance on it and there are some AEW smarks that agree with the assessment.

@@MrTambourineMan. he doesnt criticise aew. He rated that parking lot brawl higher than any Bobby roode match ffs

@@eviltwin8212 I couldn’t find it on the internet, I do see a tweet he replied to Jerichos comparing Marko Stunt to Rey Mysterio. Jim is even involved in the tweet: “Before Rey, Ole said that about Liger. In time, you realize how preposterous this will sound 20 years from now.” That doesn’t sound like him saying Marko Stunt is Rey Mysterio, just that the way everyone wrote Rey Mysterio off at first, he exceeded expectations. It COULD happen with Marko Stunt. That sounds a lot different then saying Marko Stunt is as good as Rey Mysterio. But maybe you’re referring to a different tweet mobile.twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/1185388967689998336?lang=en

We as wrestling fans don't really ask for much, just give us something to buy into. If you want real story telling promo search William Regal vs Cesaro.

@Christopher Jordan he means in regard to who corny hates the most.

One thing that hasn't changed is that every indy wrestler hopes to get a good review from him

That's partly what's ruined wrestling. Trying to impress one man, than the actual audience.

This is unrealistically true 😂😂😂

Not really. Oprah is picky about who she gives shit to.

@@ChristopherJames1993 So is Meltzer.

The challenge is, which one is he comparing him to, Johnny Ace or Shane Douglas?

@@firebird7479 in sure he's referring to Johnny Ace.

Unlike Dave Meltzer and I can't believe I'm gonna say this but John Laurinitis actually was a wrestler a rotten wrestler but a wrestler so I can't believe I to gotta give Laurinitis more credibility over Meltzer

@Millennial Smark Dude, seriously?

@@stinkypinkeee5085 what’s wrong with the guy advertising his small channel? He wasn’t even a dick about it. He was actually incredibly polite. I probably won’t check out his channel, but good on him for trying to grow his content.

He's the shits always has been

Howard Finkel other job when he wasn't ring announcing was to listen to Wrestling Observer and Live Audio Wrestling radio shows to see what they were saying about WWE. I don't know if they have aynone like that now.

Do they actually sell those? Cuz i'd be really into that

@@TheBC313 they have bullet club Yb pajamas at hot topic

I reckon he has a Tony Khan hot water bottle as well.

and young bucks wear their young bucks pajamas to ring every night

Link? Just curious

Yeah, I like Chris Jericho and I consider him a GOAT of pro wrestling (like Undertaker, I prefer Undertaker over Chris Jericho. Undertaker is way better than Chris Jericho) because of his character, the longevity of his character and wrestling. I like Jericho’s band, Fozzy. I think they’re decent. I don’t like the person Jericho has become now. Chris Jericho lost his mojo.

@@jonathannickels2649 Jericho deleted the tweet

@@jonathannickels2649 www.google.com/amp/s/amp.wrestlinginc.com/news/2020/10/jim-cornette-responds-to-chris-jericho-saying-he-could-have-675749/

@@jonathannickels2649 Definitely looks really awful for Jericho and AEW, and puts over Cornette. This certainly implies AEW is willing to pay off critics.

What a simp. I can't stand this show, jim, or brian! How about that?! Hmm

He HAS to be paid by AEW. Nothinf else makes sense. He doesnt have a damn bad thing to say about that garbage

and the meltzer drones will come to save their moronic cult leader

Only 4 stars because you didn't drop a turd in the Tokyo Dome..

@@EliC09 LOL. As long as Ultimo Dragon and Masato Tanaka don't attend that show. I'm cool with that. I don't wanna offend them.

For years Jimmy was feeding him more rope so he wouldn't do the old adage but alas Dave decided to do the job anyway.

Twitter would melt into liquid.

Ole destroyed Dave in that interview.

That would be hilarious. Would much rather see Jim, or his work, in WWE than AEW.