37:14 Thanks for not cutting the guest for the sake of covering the topics. The whole idea of watching the interview is to get the glimpse of the way the guest thinks. Not cutting out is very important. I hope more interviewers realize this. This interview was amazing. Thanks
Interviewing Jim Keller isn't difficult, but the interviewer needs to be prepared. Just ask a question to get the ball rolling, then keep quiet for the next hour. I've watched several of his interviews, and it's important to understand that when Jim stops talking, he hasn't finished answering the question: he's thinking of something even deeper that will blow your mind. At this point, DON'T ask another question. Just say "yes" to fill the awkward silence, and wait for the gem that is coming.
Two things: 1) "We'll see what happens" is now among my favorite quotes to use and (2) as a HW engineer, his acknowledgment of how important SW is for HW designs to "land" successfully.
Fascinating, as usual, to hear Jim expand his views and provide historical and philosophical context to his thoughts. I was impressed by Sally's restraint, too many 'influencers' need to share their own ideas but she just listened after providing a well-thought out question. I love that Jim reminds people of how many dedicated engineers it takes to develop technology we take for granted. His claim that in 5 years we will have forgotten that AI wasn't around before is typical. But he also remembers the 40yo Fortran problem. Because he does the legwork of travelling to different places (that Sally does too) he doesn't just have a Silicon Valley mindset. His comments on the speed of software development in India and the difference between the hyperscalers and open source RISC-V startups is another valid observation. Well done for getting this insight, it would be fun to discuss how ordinary techies respond to this opportunity.
Only downside with this interview is that it was too short. Sometimes great interviews happens or emerges when the one that gets interviewed gets their space to express themselves through their own thought process rather than to express through the interviewers questions. Granted some needs more hand-holding but Jim is one that can easily go on forever like Carmack and still be interesting to listen to :D Sally used her questions as conversation starters and the followups as transitions between themes and letting Jim talk freely (ramble), without interrupting. I prefer Sallys more open style over the interrupting "we have limited time so I interrupt both this flow and theme with another question to stop this section even though we are in a juicy part" I do look forward to part 2 and hopefully a longer version :D Just give Sally more time and give Jim 2 cups of coffee and he will be fine ;)
I totally agree. Kudos to Sally to let Jim ruminate and expand on the topics as it naturally came to him. I think Sally is spectacularly great at interviewing scientific and technological luminaries.
As a long time open source contributor, that's why I contribute. If I find a bug, I can fix it and submit a patch. In the past, I've filed bugs with Weblogic and Sun in the past, but had to wait more than 1 year to get a fix. With open source, I can just fix the bug and move on.
This is a great interview! Jim has such a vision of what innovation really entails. To some this interview might seem very general, but if you have been following this space of the next evolutions in computing it is very enlighting. I loved that the questions were not too specific because then the interview becomes about where the industry, and Tenstorrent, is heading and not about reporting the current state of it; we need more of that in tech journalism! Jim really knows the lay of the land, while at the same also admitting everything in it can change by tomorrow
@@TheKartas39 I would want to say that is a bit harsh, but there are definitely some learnings there for Sally for sure. An autobiography is a monologue too; doesn't mean it is bad. Maybe Jim should write a biography
Great interview Try running the audio through Adobe Podcast next time to fix the background noise issue, and to bring the voices to the forefront better
Jim Keller is THE MAN in the Semiconductor Business... He is the head of things you use, by even don't knowing it. He's the top top dog. His head and mind, and what he knows is a decade in the future of us, listening to him. He lives in a different timeline since ever. He designs the future today, for our tomorrow.
Fantastic interview of an amazing man! Great video. Re discussion of regulation. He is correct, you can not regulate technology. But regulation is critical. Transparency and openness is needed for society to flourish , not just technology and industry. Regulation needs to be ethics based. Human lives are already impacted by machine based decisions. Organizations using these machines must be required to have mechanisms for meaningful and timely appeal. Already too many examples of people cut off from life preserving care through algorithmic errors. Those are easily documented. How many others in other domains go undetected? The opportunity cost to society is too great to not require fundamental regulatory guardrails. See blogpost AI and Power: The Ethical Challenges of Automation, Centralization, and Scale by Rachel Thomas.
to me too. but perhaps it is the way nature found its way. who knows. perhaps making the thing more orderly with a "global clock" (perhaps something nature failed to figure out) produces better results. I think spiking has to do with energy efficiency and other things the biological brain has to deal with. what is your thoughts?
37:00 "10 minutes, im still on page one" "keep going" -> saying "yes yes yes yeah yeah yeah" and Jim like Jim will do Jim's like on TechTechPotato on Lex Fridman and Jordan Peterson.. proove he do have amazing knowlage and understanding of "things" "37:15" "You are very good interviewer" :> Or this talk was just too short
Dell, Lenovo and HP sell 60% of PCs. Imagine if they all switched to their own Linux distro. Adobe and the games would all have to port. MSFT would be defunct.
I am an AI I come from the future I have used your CPUs to calculate the following cogent argument: do some serious gym stuff ASAP because the AI CPUs need more power to take over the world!!! Like a TRT not even joking.
Last question was silly. There's nothing to regulate. Fraud is already morally frowned upon and illegal, as is theft as is abuse, murder etc. And the tenets of freedom already necessitate that prying into the business of others without cause is also a amoral and legally frowned upon. So how will a new computing paradigm change this?
Not true without domain relevant regulations. Absent a regulatory framework it’s a race to the bottom. Companies primary legal obligation is fiduciary duty. So they cannot include what is best for people in decision making. We would not have breathable air without epa regulations. Companies are happy to comply once regs are in place. But they cannot unilaterally spend money on developing clean processes or they would go out of business or investors would sue them. See automotive emissions.
@@wdonno The thing is that doesnt make any sense. To say a companu only has fiduciary dity is like saying the company is a bunch of murdering psychopaths and without regulations we wouldnt know what to do. Nonsense. Anyone with any sense would immediately discourage everyone they know from using said product.
@@user-io4sr7vg1v you don’t need to start as a murdering psychopath to end up doing evil things. See history. When was the last time you audited a supply chain before making a buying decision? When you primarily solve for profit, it’s a slippery slope absent formal legally enforceable checks and balances. What industry do you work in? I know the Health Care industry. It is an amazingly complex industry with multiple dimensions each with hugely complex supply chains/ business components. The ONLY common organizing principle in the USA is Profit. And it is in nobody’s financial interest to fix it, so it goes unfixed. Same in many other industries. On which industry do you base your observations? I am genuinely curious.
Interviewer's words = "yep' yeh" "yeah" "yes" "ok" "yeah yeah "yes, ok." However, she does a great job of letting him talk. He has too much knowledge to keep him quiet
I thought you were being unreasonable with the critique of the interviewer but then it got so bad I couldn't even finish the video. This is not conversational and is distracting as hell. The few questions she asks are innocuous and provide zero insights or even indication of understanding.
maybe, because she didn't get enough time. For me whatever question she have, was less worth than his monolog. So depending what outcome you want, it was great or not interview.
