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Jim Keller: The Future of Computing, AI, Life, and Consciousness | Lex Fridman Podcast  

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Jim Keller is a legendary microprocessor engineer, previously at AMD, Apple, Tesla, Intel, and now Tenstorrent. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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0:00 - Introduction
1:33 - Good design is both science and engineering
7:33 - Javascript
11:40 - RISC vs CISC
15:39 - What makes a great processor?
17:09 - Intel vs ARM
18:58 - Steve Jobs and Apple
21:36 - Elon Musk and Steve Jobs
27:21 - Father
31:03 - Perfection
37:18 - Modular design
42:52 - Moore's law
49:50 - Hardware for deep learning
56:44 - Making neural networks fast at scale
1:04:22 - Andrej Karpathy and Chris Lattner
1:08:36 - How GPUs work
1:12:43 - Tesla Autopilot, NVIDIA, and Mobileye
1:17:23 - Andrej Karpathy and Software 2.0
1:23:43 - Tesla Dojo
1:26:20 - Neural networks will understand physics better than humans
1:28:33 - Re-engineering the human brain
1:33:26 - Infinite fun and the Culture Series by Iain Banks
1:35:20 - Neuralink
1:40:43 - Dreams
1:44:37 - Ideas
1:54:49 - Aliens
1:59:46 - Jordan Peterson
2:04:44 - Viruses
2:07:52 - WallStreetBets and Robinhood
2:15:55 - Advice for young people
2:17:45 - Human condition
2:20:14 - Fear is a cage
2:25:04 - Love
2:31:27 - Regrets
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@lexfridman
@lexfridman 3 года назад
Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - Brooklinen: brooklinen.com and use code LEX to get $25 off + free shipping - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - Belcampo: belcampo.com/lex and use code LEX to get 20% off first order 1:33 - Good design is both science and engineering 7:33 - Javascript 11:40 - RISC vs CISC 15:39 - What makes a great processor? 17:09 - Intel vs ARM 18:58 - Steve Jobs and Apple 21:36 - Elon Musk and Steve Jobs 27:21 - Father 31:03 - Perfection 37:18 - Modular design 42:52 - Moore's law 49:50 - Hardware for deep learning 56:44 - Making neural networks fast at scale 1:04:22 - Andrej Karpathy and Chris Lattner 1:08:36 - How GPUs work 1:12:43 - Tesla Autopilot, NVIDIA, and Mobileye 1:17:23 - Andrej Karpathy and Software 2.0 1:23:43 - Tesla Dojo 1:26:20 - Neural networks will understand physics better than humans 1:28:33 - Re-engineering the human brain 1:33:26 - Infinite fun and the Culture Series by Iain Banks 1:35:20 - Neuralink 1:40:43 - Dreams 1:44:37 - Ideas 1:54:49 - Aliens 1:59:46 - Jordan Peterson 2:04:44 - Viruses 2:07:52 - WallStreetBets and Robinhood 2:15:55 - Advice for young people 2:17:45 - Human condition 2:20:14 - Fear is a cage 2:25:04 - Love 2:31:27 - Regrets
@AndyPynch
@AndyPynch 3 года назад
YES LEX! I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS!!!
@HiberNAT
@HiberNAT 3 года назад
Jim Keller looking real jedi talking about prepping your dreams
@swaggerspot1
@swaggerspot1 3 года назад
no book recs? :)
@juliav1843
@juliav1843 3 года назад
Hi Lex, I think you missed mentioning the sponsors.
@ayjzeehyphenwadr5849
@ayjzeehyphenwadr5849 3 года назад
Can't wait to see some more content a little less on the AI side of things
@cookiesandcartoons
@cookiesandcartoons 3 года назад
Never clicked so fast. Keller is an absolute legend.
@mikhailfranco
@mikhailfranco 3 года назад
_"legend and guru"_ - Wikipedia
@hoolerboris
@hoolerboris 3 года назад
His first appearance on this podcast was probably my favorite episode. Maybe only equaled by the one with Wolfram on pockets of reducible complexity.
@tanmayyaduvanshi5422
@tanmayyaduvanshi5422 3 года назад
I get to know him throw this podcast and I think he's truly smart and has a genuine opinion on life n stuff.
@shadow7037932
@shadow7037932 3 года назад
Jim Keller basically saved AMD several times. Dude deserves a hell of a lot of credit.
@jihadjoe
@jihadjoe 3 года назад
Intel already hired him, but some stupid imbecile in management didn't want to be saved.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 года назад
@@jihadjoe They've now put a technical guy at the helm at Intel who has done good things for Intel in the past.
@joeyg29jgjg
@joeyg29jgjg 3 года назад
@@autohmae fucking finally. intel has mastered squeezing blood from a rock recently I hope they choose a new direction.
@jessiehoward158
@jessiehoward158 2 года назад
Jim Keller is the fuckin man, he`s helped PC/cloud/mobile/self driving/ machine learning.
@paladinpainter3715
@paladinpainter3715 9 месяцев назад
AI IS NOTHING COMPARED TO ME, I FUG IT TO IT WITH MY CAPABILITIES. IT FALLS TO ME TO CLOSE THAT BOOK zzz
@motivationforbreakfast
@motivationforbreakfast 3 года назад
I can’t get enough of this guy’s directness, clarity, and zero ego. I wonder what he’s like as a dad, husband, boyfriend, friend, boss or peer
@paulcassidy4559
@paulcassidy4559 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing!
@jessickidopolis9040
@jessickidopolis9040 3 года назад
Lex or his guest?
@yury_kim
@yury_kim 3 года назад
I wish I had a professor like him back in school :)
@deadsypadilla
@deadsypadilla 3 года назад
Its hard on a pimp
@nrejajarian8178
@nrejajarian8178 3 года назад
sigma
@piyh3962
@piyh3962 3 года назад
2:25:05 Peak Jim Keller roast after a long interview with a lot of Jim's optimism butting up against Lex's "life is suffering" mindset- L - "I'm going to ask you about love" J - "I've heard your into this now" L - "Into this Love thing?" J - "Do you think this is the solution to your depression?"
@peterkay7458
@peterkay7458 3 года назад
Ryan, I think Jim is a boss forhow he handled that and the cage convo. No wonder he finds machine level easy if he understands people so well.
@metatron5199
@metatron5199 2 года назад
There were so many moments throughout this conversation that Keller was making lex look like a fool respectfully of course, but nonetheless he still showed just how naive lex really is, which imo was great! And very hilarious and entertaining. Keller is clearly a polymath in a world where there are few left…
@closetcleaner
@closetcleaner 2 года назад
@@metatron5199 The podcast show is about Lex and not his guests. One day, if Lex grows, he will look back and laugh at himself. That's life, I've been there.
@imbra
@imbra 3 года назад
Oh, this is going to be good :) Jim Keller's first interview was my favorite of all the ones I saw.
@lexfridman
@lexfridman 3 года назад
Yes, Jim is brilliant.
@kumarshanu6429
@kumarshanu6429 3 года назад
@@lexfridman sir please interview prof. Geoffrey Hinton
@drayalec2928
@drayalec2928 3 года назад
Agreed
@xXKM4UXx
@xXKM4UXx 3 года назад
@@kumarshanu6429 I would set aside my entire day and grab popcorn for that
@joech1065
@joech1065 3 года назад
Same! I my brain is already salivating as I click “play”
@julesbassuk
@julesbassuk 3 года назад
It calms me a little to listen into conversations like this.
@FromFame
@FromFame 3 года назад
I love both their voices too, how they talk about an exciting future in a planful way
@lencivargas
@lencivargas 3 года назад
me too!
@zeppkfw
@zeppkfw 3 года назад
For me it's because I know that there are still incredibly smart people still working for the betterment of humanity.
@julesbassuk
@julesbassuk 3 года назад
@@zeppkfw the most calming part indeed.
@razeezar
@razeezar 3 года назад
I just finished listening to this episode whilst playing around on the guitar and just pottering around. One of my newer favourite podcasts to listen to, for sure!
@SolvingTheMoneyProblem
@SolvingTheMoneyProblem 3 года назад
Great chat. Don't wait so long to invite Jim Keller back next time!
@thdjjfsfh
@thdjjfsfh 3 года назад
I know, it's always an honor to listen to the Silicon Valley Ronin.
@thdjjfsfh
@thdjjfsfh 3 года назад
@@thewiseturtle when you really want to listen to this man, a year feels like an eternity. I am a big fan of his work, this way it feels like you know the man. Great to see that he had such a good relationship with his father.
@rct999
@rct999 3 года назад
I was about to post the same thing!
@peterkay7458
@peterkay7458 3 года назад
@@thdjjfsfh the cage thing with Jim laughing is priceless. It tells me his dad was the coolest lol and it rubbed off on everyone especially his son.
@sigara91
@sigara91 2 года назад
He is brilliant. I'm not an IT guy but he sure knows a lot about computers, people, organizations, creativity, management, leadership, relationships and life. A genius.
@00jknight
@00jknight 3 года назад
Jim is the first interviewee who I've seen call out Lex a little bit. "You think [love] the solution to your depression?", and telling Lex he's rigid and must be afraid of something. This is true friendship. True mentorship.
@calmexit6483
@calmexit6483 3 года назад
You can tell that Jim really respects Lex.
@metatron5199
@metatron5199 2 года назад
Idk if its really friendship so much as its just being a decent human being… nothing more than that, and by all means he actually makes lex look like the naive fool that he is at times but does so in a respectful manner so as not to make himself look childish or foolish while doing so… again its just basic conversational skills….
@metatron5199
@metatron5199 2 года назад
@@calmexit6483 idk about that, doesn’t really seem like any deep connection between the two there (not saying he doesn’t respect him, but no more than any other person per se), Keller just comes off as a good conversationalist as well as just a decent human being more so than anything to do with a friendship…. I guess if that’s what you consider friendship, than sure I guess, but that seems to be a really loose and awfully wide goal posts of what friendship is than… there isn’t really enough information to glean if they are actually friends from either of their sides of the conversation… its not hard to be a decent human being to other ppl in the world… its just called being considerate, and thoughtful… like I said if that was the only level to friendship, then shit I’d have to considered almost everyone I’d ever spoken w/ a friend which wouldn’t make any sense at all to be fair here…. Cheers
@Tombombadillo999
@Tombombadillo999 Год назад
@@metatron5199 cheers
@heroblok6
@heroblok6 Год назад
Yes! People usually agree or just let lex go on and say his last word about the subject. then go off into his next question.
@anthonysuppa2312
@anthonysuppa2312 3 года назад
Lex has upgraded from "this was kinda fun" to "this was fun" on the Jim Keller scale.. Congrats Lex, easily your greatest accomplishment
@andrewfrolovgmailcom
@andrewfrolovgmailcom 3 года назад
We need a round #3 with Jim, talking about non-tech stuff. He is clearly very good at philosophy and management.
@drhilm
@drhilm 3 года назад
"The future of computing is inefficiency at scale". Love it.
@BenState
@BenState 3 года назад
this must be where reductionism (which he clearly loves) becomes chaos.
@johnstifter
@johnstifter 3 года назад
"I didn't read until the 3rd or 4th grade and my parents were like oh he'll be fine" - Jim Keller
@thomash4810
@thomash4810 2 года назад
I wish he elaborated on this a bit more. Did he have a learning disability that delayed his ability to learn reading? Or did he already know how to read? And chose not to read because he didn’t like it or thought it was boring until he was in 3rd or 4th grade.
@RoryJordaan
@RoryJordaan 2 года назад
@@thomash4810 it's kinda multifaceted with dyslexia. It's a range of issues, with each individual experiencing different obstacles. I don't pretend to know his exact circumstances, but one could guess that he struggled to learn the alphabet, then struggled to learn words and how to spell/ read them, and then struggled for years to get used to the way that their brain processes words. It doesn't just click all at once, generally, it's more a slow march through the mud that eventually becomes comparable to other people's ease of reading.
@brunoribaric9683
@brunoribaric9683 3 года назад
Lex's ability to explore the emotions behind highly technical minds and share that publicly is unprecedented.
@luanswine7336
@luanswine7336 3 года назад
Yes.
@darylallen2485
@darylallen2485 3 года назад
Lex will bring us the fi fi like no one else!
@toddmaek5436
@toddmaek5436 3 года назад
You peeped that too?
@wizard_bunny
@wizard_bunny 3 года назад
This is mostly why i listen to Lex's podcasts.
@michelcote
@michelcote 3 года назад
This guy knows the essence of engineering and understand the processes at high level very well. Really smart guy
@aidenstern5254
@aidenstern5254 3 года назад
Explain yourself this makes no sense. Engineering is applied math . What is the point of pure math if it doesn’t apply to reality. It’s just a glorified puzzle at that point
@aidenstern5254
@aidenstern5254 3 года назад
@Bb K I didn’t say anything about Lex and all you’ve done is say “engineering bad” so explain what is good then lol
@ranku9690
@ranku9690 3 года назад
@@aidenstern5254 I think he's one of those hate watchers. Just mad at everyone else for their own struggles or some sort of psychology like that. Him calling lex a shadow of a human being is all I need to know for his frame of mind.
@jsn7929
@jsn7929 3 года назад
Can't stop thinking about this quote, "“Inevitably the organization gets captured by the bureaucracy that manages all the processes.”
@cridr
@cridr 3 года назад
well, the sad truth is that you do not like your coffee " when the guy thu sell it wot you want it" you want it in an expected time, also you want you stocks to go up, you want your money to be well spent and especially this is the most important aspect " to know that in every moment you feel like" .. because of that all systems tent towards this capture" and it might be a good thing .. looking at the fact that WITH these problems, we are here, not by " allowing the creative minds do what they want when the want it " . Sincerely I do not like this too but I acknowledge the value, not the ideal possible value, the concrete current value, that makes me say this and see this on yt for example.
@JohnDoe69986
@JohnDoe69986 3 года назад
Same actually.
@sergiobollana
@sergiobollana 3 года назад
I just paused this and I'm reflecting on how fortunate I am to be listening to this level of information freely, just sitting in my house. You're here listening to the top minds in their game (and I'm including Lex into this category) openly discuss their thought processes and ideas. This level of access to this type of information was up until not so long ago reserved only to a select group of people in very specific circles. I know we humans are a f*cked up bunch, but I can't help being optimistic about us watching this... I'm sure there's a smart kid with a phone somewhere that got fired up listening to this and started his career as a scientist because of it and he will bring a better life to all of us.
@unixcoder
@unixcoder 9 месяцев назад
Well said my friend, well said
@aaronanytime8897
@aaronanytime8897 3 месяца назад
That kid didn't turn to science he turned to metaphysics.
@galzafar2943
@galzafar2943 3 месяца назад
This could be a LinkedIn post
@Warley.Araujo
@Warley.Araujo Месяц назад
completely agree!! The level of information we have today for free is insane!!!
@arcanevideos
@arcanevideos 3 года назад
So glad you brought Jim back. The last podcast with him was one of the best.
@JohnDoe69986
@JohnDoe69986 3 года назад
@Lex Fridman this is definitely a fraud account people
@kylematlock7499
@kylematlock7499 2 года назад
@@JohnDoe69986 Wow LoL
@ichbindoofhihi1
@ichbindoofhihi1 3 года назад
not gonna lie, since he said he saw Jim Keller at a neuralink conference Ive been waiting for this interview. His knowledge and intelligence are really inspiring.
@hoolerboris
@hoolerboris 3 года назад
Same. Also, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during their chance meeting and discussion there.
@hnasr
@hnasr 3 года назад
34:00 I can totally relate this, discussing ideas with smart people I always almost get lost but when I sit on it I see what each was thinking and I always thought I am slow in capturing in that regards when in fact the ideas as so profound and complex they need to marinate to make sense
@zuhairmehdee
@zuhairmehdee 3 года назад
Ayy it's Hussein the backend engineering guru.
@Andytlp
@Andytlp 3 года назад
He also mentions giving your brain orders like pulling ideas before sleep and dreaming working on it and ordering the brain to remember it after waking up. Fascinated because its something ive noticed before. You simply give the brain a task, an idea to figure out and then just let it do its thing then a few hours days or even a week later you get a sudden realization and have a solution at hand. Its a better version of shower thoughts because youre aware of the mechanics behind it. People think of stuff one day in the shower and next day during shower they get their answers.
@callmedeno
@callmedeno 3 года назад
this guy is brilliant, probably my favourite guest you've had on - absolutely precise with his words
@takeshikovacs1081
@takeshikovacs1081 Год назад
agree, plus he seemed to have answers way before Lex finished asking them, wish my brain worked like that, I would normally spend some time after the question has been asked to come up with my answer, especially when knowing I am on a podcast that many people will watch or listen to later on, but this guys is like his processors, processing words in a lightning speed and presenting the answer in an instant
@infiction7651
@infiction7651 3 года назад
I listened to Jim's first interview here at least 4 or 5 times, it really opened my mind to things I had never thought about on topics I never realized i was interested in, excited for this, thanks lex!
@ClayMann
@ClayMann 3 года назад
you just summed up beautifully why I always seek out people smarter than me. That's not a hard task in my case but I learned early on than hanging around fools made me at least feel more like a fool myself. Their habits rubbed off on me. The great thing was the smartest people had the exact same effect. I learned more and it opened my mind to exciting possibilities. Even on RU-vid I have this rule to only find positive channels which isn't easy as so many are negative and feed on negative drama.
@6ixpool520
@6ixpool520 3 года назад
@@ClayMann Well said my mann
@buiquocduy9518
@buiquocduy9518 11 месяцев назад
This CD has three separate relaxation/meditation sessions on it ru-vid.comUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq guided by a very pleasant and direct male voice. Unlike so many other products of its type, this CD does not have bad synthesizer music, does not feature a phony or affected style of narration, and does not make any bogus claims to be subliminal or to re-train the brain or any of that balderdash. What you get is 1. a guided meditation for getting into a pleasantly relaxed state of body awareness while taking a stroll (superb for those easing back into a fitness routine slowly after an illness or injury) 2. A nice long breath-awareness relaxation session that if followed diligently can put you into very deep states of full-body relaxation and mental calmness, and 3. a buddhist-inspired meditation session designed to help you develop and maintain feelings of loving kindness toward not just yourself and your friends, but toward people you don't even like. The CD makes no claims to be designed for advanced meditators or for buddhists or hindus/yoga practitioners looking for very deep and esoteric stuff. It is geared more toward the average person who just wants to develop the habit of relaxation and stress relief through natural, healthy means. him, if you happen to be reading this, keep up the good work fella, and I love your accent. I would also like to note that I have never fallen asleep while listening to this product. I would like to kindly suggest to the reviewer who said this CD makes him fall asleep, that he might want to get checked to see if he has a sleep disorder, or if he is simply not setting aside ample time for restful sleep at night. A healthy person getting adequate rest at night should be able to go into deep states of mental relaxation without dozing off, if not all the time, then most of the time.
@mattj65816
@mattj65816 3 года назад
36:51 "Life is suffering, that's the reality..." "No it's not. I know the Buddhists said that and a couple other people are stuck on it...there's this kinda weird combination of good and bad, you know, light and darkness, that you have to tolerate and, you know, deal with." Jim handled that pretty well.
@LeonGalindoStenutz
@LeonGalindoStenutz 3 года назад
That's not what Buddhism says. All the contrary, look deeper.
@mattj65816
@mattj65816 3 года назад
@@LeonGalindoStenutz May be true, I have no basis for judging that one way or another, but his response was not centered on theology. More than a "couple" people are "stuck on it," too, but I'm not concerned about his ability to count.
@justinbridgez
@justinbridgez 3 года назад
Eevrytjing. Everything comes down to balance. Balance. The shades of gray. Even said. I don’t know I can make it
@metatron5199
@metatron5199 2 года назад
@@LeonGalindoStenutz that is what is literally said about the material world in Buddhism, which is what Keller was clearly referencing, so to say he is incorrect is just flat out off basis and either you haven’t read any of the Buddhist text or your searching to make a point which isn’t relevant ie if you want to expound about the deeper truths that Buddhism promotes this isn’t the place in the comments section, make your own videos on the topic than…
@caitlinV3
@caitlinV3 3 года назад
Absolutely brilliant episode. I felt like a fly on the wall for a profound yet comfortable conversation. Lex is killing it with the guests lately!
@dotails
@dotails 2 года назад
I love how he finally challenged Lex's essentialized death, pain, suffering belief. A lot of guests just nod and agree with their host, I love those who think for themselves, and see infinite potential of immortal fulfillment.
@chancegreenisdead
@chancegreenisdead 11 месяцев назад
total brah
@henrycullen950
@henrycullen950 3 года назад
Love that advice for young people "Don't let old people screw you". Highlight of the podcast.
@a.k.emerson1705
@a.k.emerson1705 3 года назад
Advice I so desperately needed.
@laurihosio5272
@laurihosio5272 3 года назад
Keller is a true engineer. Great inspiration
@johnhammer8668
@johnhammer8668 3 года назад
This dude has so much wisdom and love to hear him talk more in the future. Jim Keller got profound insight.
@Alistair_Spence
@Alistair_Spence 3 года назад
Your first interview with him was one of your best, in my opinion. Great that you could get him back on for a second time.
@Alistair_Spence
@Alistair_Spence 3 года назад
@@scottykilmer1041 If this is some kind of test then I have failed it miserably. I have no idea what your comment means, but I still enjoyed the interview. Have a nice weekend Lex!
@Garacha222
@Garacha222 3 года назад
@@Alistair_Spence looks like someone has hacked Lex account, and is spamming. lots of these comments showing up
@jakey.t6989
@jakey.t6989 3 года назад
Another great episode so far! Just wanted to say Lex, you've actually inspired me to change career path at 28 and study Computer Science and doing little coding projects to learn. Just got accepted at University to start at the end of this year! Keep being you, your podcast is amazing. Much love!
@voltdgt2529
@voltdgt2529 3 года назад
Awesome bro. Best of luck to you!
@jakey.t6989
@jakey.t6989 3 года назад
@@voltdgt2529 Thanks my man. Hope you're getting after it too!
@buzzl1ghtyear400
@buzzl1ghtyear400 3 года назад
I was into computers real young I was on the path of pursuing it but self medicating my anxiety took me down to rock bottom. I was just thinking to myself maybe this is a sign that at 29 I might still have it in me to do school but idk I really went through a lot I’d have to do a certification course since it’s only one class. School just isn’t compatible with me. Where useful tech knowledge could be is filled with endless information about prescription drugs and drugs in general(on some Hamilton Morris type shit) as well as psychology psychiatry which I f***n hate.
@TravisGarnett
@TravisGarnett 3 года назад
@Jake Thorpe: That's amazing!! Continued success, and nothing less (except [maybe] more Lex listening 😉), as you enter your CS program...👊😎
@jakey.t6989
@jakey.t6989 3 года назад
@@buzzl1ghtyear400 you should totally pursue it again if that feels right to you. Everyone goes through ups and downs, man. Try move on from it. It's all part of the game we call life. Good luck to you brother!
@tekmentor
@tekmentor 3 года назад
Imagine a discussion between Jim and Jordan at the dinner table, jesus!
@saeldus
@saeldus 3 года назад
Ye, thought about how great it would be to listen some on youtube
@SuperHeroINTJ
@SuperHeroINTJ 3 года назад
Jordan Walke?
@refplusten
@refplusten 3 года назад
"Good engineering IS great craftsmanship"
@peterkay7458
@peterkay7458 3 года назад
I loved how he defended to his core that putting on the brights is some of the finest craftsmanship....very humbling from a humble man
@rearview2360
@rearview2360 3 года назад
Lex is dropping BOOOOOMBS
@jimbo3952
@jimbo3952 3 года назад
I'm glad Jim brought up Benzos... My best mate was prescribed Benzos as a teenager and he's been battling addiction since. He was the smartest most charismatic person I knew and now he can't even hold a job because his body physically won't let him. I've tried to help him for well over 10 years and there is literally nothing I can do. Doctors need to be held accountable.
@quaidcarlobulloch9300
@quaidcarlobulloch9300 3 года назад
Hi there, when? Thank you.
@andydo6271
@andydo6271 3 года назад
absolutely waiting for "Round 3" with Jim Keller... perhaps with more emphasis on "human side" aspects of building this incredibly complex systems
@esausilva945
@esausilva945 3 года назад
This has quickly become my favourite podcast, the quality of the conversations and guests is second to none. Great work Lex, you're doing pretty good for a robot.
@TheRelul
@TheRelul 3 года назад
Please ask for Book Recommendations! That's such a good insight to a person's mind
@timjohnson3913
@timjohnson3913 3 года назад
Booo. It’s a seemingly intelligent question from 2005 but 1) Lex does his research and doesn’t need these types of filler questions to generate discussion and 2) why put books on a pedestal when there are so many other great ways to learn (e-courses, podcasts where ideas can be constructively challenged vs just the author’s viewpoint, etc)
@joech1065
@joech1065 3 года назад
@@timjohnson3913 Books and academic papers are still the kind of information. The majority of information simply doesn't exist in any other form. Fortunately, many types of written content can be easily absorbed via text-to-speech, including papers. Some subjects don't translate well into audio form, though, because it is too formal and a natural language has hard time translating it. As for challenging ideas, I totally get the value of a live discussion for it, but the written form has that too: this is normally why citations are there, to discover what other scholars wrote about that work, how their built upon, challenged, improved it, etc. If you neven found yourself in a rabbit hole on Google Scholar, it is a trully world opening experience.
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 3 года назад
@@timjohnson3913 If you heard the previous interview with Jim you would know he reads a lot, recommends reading books and sometimes mentions something relating to the subject. So here it would be indeed great question.
@peterkay7458
@peterkay7458 3 года назад
@@jan.tichavsky fair and good point
@ibrahimshehata7286
@ibrahimshehata7286 3 года назад
The Day Lex Blesses us with an Upload is a intellectual Holiday Sit back and Contemplate
@jamiedenton2321
@jamiedenton2321 3 года назад
More like sit back and contemplate the capital letters?
@jamiedenton2321
@jamiedenton2321 3 года назад
Hmm
@ibrahimshehata7286
@ibrahimshehata7286 3 года назад
@@jamiedenton2321 Its getting even of a problem in scientific papers with the amount of abbreviation being used as the complexity surpasses human cognition. Im an Systems Engineer that requires a wide range of comprehension in various fields where I find alot abb over lapping I suggested using AI to scan papers maybe even podcasts so users can benefit and synthesize more. Think about it as human compression algorithm
@stankozubenko8520
@stankozubenko8520 3 года назад
I never write my own comments...but Jim Keller is one of your top 3 guests, easy!
@dsyncd555
@dsyncd555 3 года назад
I started this at midnight and now it's 3am. This may be one of my favorite interviews.
@TomTheDutchy
@TomTheDutchy 3 года назад
Omg omg omg, the first keller podcast i listened to 5 times. This is amazing!
@sai2803
@sai2803 3 года назад
So glad our beloved Gillfoyle is back!
@anandbalivada7461
@anandbalivada7461 3 года назад
Everytime I watch anything involving Eric Weinstein, I come here to be refreshed. Everything about Jim Keller is anti-bullshit, and actually doing instead of armchair criticism. There are some really amazing parts where he goes into the technical aspects and still ties it into the bigger picture. That's what got me into listening to this podcast and I'm glad it still lives on.
@jacobmalof
@jacobmalof 2 года назад
You do a great job giving your guests room to open up while capturing the fascination they have for/ in their field. Hearing someone excitedly talk about their passion is good listening.
@Kris-zw9gb
@Kris-zw9gb 3 года назад
Seeing Jim laugh towards the end of the podcast was so lovely
@peterkay7458
@peterkay7458 3 года назад
@@charlescoult imagine him as a team leader.....you d get like super cool CPUS :P
@KaloyCoder
@KaloyCoder 3 года назад
Being a self taught professional programmer, watching Lex Podcasts makes me see who are the REAL geniuses. Thanks Lex
@RobRobJuice
@RobRobJuice 3 года назад
The other day I was walking home from the store, thinking about Jim Keller, as one does. When I came inside, I took a seat in front of my computer, refreshed youtube and beheld "Jim Keller, Round 2". I screamed. I cannot describe how much I appreciate your work, Lex. Keep it up!
@kunalpardikar7402
@kunalpardikar7402 3 года назад
I love the smart back & forths, when they really get into a groove near the end of the conversation. There should be different chapters in Lex's book! 😂
@D3r3k2323
@D3r3k2323 3 года назад
Nice! I was just thinking yesterday that it would be cool to get Jim back on. Jordan Peterson next?
@marioaguilar607
@marioaguilar607 3 года назад
Fascinating conversation! We need more of this--thinking deeply about interesting topics versus keeping things at surface level. Thanks for your work Lex.
@jonnyj.
@jonnyj. 3 года назад
Jim keller is by far my FAVOURITE guest you've had on your show. What a blast to listen to this :D
@nicolasdelgadolozano7890
@nicolasdelgadolozano7890 3 года назад
"The goal is to die in the biggest possible cage" -- Lex Fridman Hahaha very dark yet still strangely inspiring
@JungleScene
@JungleScene 3 года назад
@Lucas James not necessarily. the cage can take many forms.
@mtbandoutdoorfunwej2771
@mtbandoutdoorfunwej2771 2 года назад
No, you missed the whole thing. That's not the answer, Jim Keller, said, IDEALLY NO CAGE. lets not make stupid quotes now that are actually detrimental to adopt.
@DusanPavlicek78
@DusanPavlicek78 3 года назад
I loved this interview, it got much more philosophical and also just pure fun at times than I expected. You're doing great, Lex!
@romanieo
@romanieo 3 года назад
This was like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," for the mind. Jim Keller is rock solid. Had to resist the urge to Google everything he and Lex discussed, and simply enjoy the ride. It was well worth it. Would have taken 14 fortnights and who has that amount of time during a global pandemic? 🧐
@Lex.Dachstein
@Lex.Dachstein 3 года назад
The first Jim Keller interview was one of the most interesting unexpected podcasts I have seen. I am glad he is back. Stephen Wolfram, Joschka Bach and Jim Keller :)
@squashduos1258
@squashduos1258 11 месяцев назад
Please bring Jim Keller back!!!
@TAD-9
@TAD-9 3 года назад
Yeeeeees! I'm so happy to see another episode with Jim.
@tt10tt
@tt10tt 3 года назад
Facts
@prodigalSon000
@prodigalSon000 3 года назад
I like this talk so much, I have to stop every ten minutes and check if I hit the like button. Damn
@victoriaandrea
@victoriaandrea 3 года назад
“...converting all the mass of the universe into a computer.....that would be ironic from the simulation point of view, the simulated built mass (made) to simulate....” Jim, you made my day. It’s little humor like this that’s the cherry on top of another great show from Lex. Thank you.
@smann11b
@smann11b 3 года назад
“It could be more beautiful”, hearing that quote just made things more beautiful. Amazing conversation. This podcast is deep on many levels, emotional and intellectual. Lex thank you 🙏.
@gfelsted
@gfelsted 3 года назад
Genuinely didn't expect this! I loved the first interview with Jim, but there's almost no other interviews with him around. Thanks for doing this, Lex!
@MarieCrossbow
@MarieCrossbow 3 года назад
This is the first time I've heard someone else describe their experience of working on concepts and ideas when dreaming. It happens to me every so often, where I'll solve something in my sleep or catch errors in my work while sleeping.
@deepmistry3114
@deepmistry3114 3 года назад
+1. I wonder what gives rise to that state of mind.
@ibrahimshehata7286
@ibrahimshehata7286 3 года назад
It starts in college when that exam question wakes you up in the middle of the night
@AlexandruJalea
@AlexandruJalea 3 года назад
It's clear that Lex has outgrown the AI podcast and he's also getting the recognition. The quality of the interviewees is just phenomenal. Lex, seriously good job. Well done.
@missh1774
@missh1774 3 года назад
when you have to hit pause and rewind several times... you know its a damn good interview. thank you Lex.
@korras21
@korras21 3 года назад
This interview is growing on me more and more since the day it has been released and it's just stunning on how many layers this is inspirational. Many Thanks Lex!
@toni3323
@toni3323 3 года назад
"Good engineering is great craftsmanship. When you start thinking engineering is about invention and when you set up a system that rewards invention, the craftsmanship gets neglected". Wow! Also, Jim Keller is like the Coolest uncle I did not have. :(
@coderfromscratch1486
@coderfromscratch1486 3 года назад
OK, I'll say it! We need at the very least another 2 rounds of Jim for 2021.
@Will-be-free
@Will-be-free 2 года назад
I think that these Jim Keller interviews are the most interesting that I have ever heard. Not the talk about computers, but all the rest of it.
@XxNoV4xAiRxBoRsxX
@XxNoV4xAiRxBoRsxX 3 года назад
wow the father section was perfectly done
@fanboy223
@fanboy223 3 года назад
Fantastic interview Lex, digging deeper about his father was great.
@user-ik8vy1rg8f
@user-ik8vy1rg8f 3 года назад
Really glad you have Jim back again so soon. Loved his first appearance on the show.
@antonomaseapophasis5142
@antonomaseapophasis5142 2 года назад
I am 7 minutes into this conversation and I feel as if I have been given a.look into a higher dimension of thought. I like the way that this guy is rigorous and generous in discussion.
@daikennett
@daikennett Год назад
These ones are always incredible, the first one was epic and this one just expanded on it. Great job Lex, bring on round 3!
@RobRobertRobbie
@RobRobertRobbie 3 года назад
MAN podcast number 1 with him was my favorite! So happy to see him again! LFE filling in for the JRE youtube content ;)
@karanpillai7223
@karanpillai7223 3 года назад
I was waiting for round 2 with Jim for such a long time. Thanks Lex!!
@joeldupuis4182
@joeldupuis4182 3 года назад
Lex I appreciate your curiosity around the philosophy and visions of these legends. Thank you for bringing these two worlds together.
@hal9000-channel
@hal9000-channel 3 года назад
Lex Fridman podcast is one of my favorites and so many wonderful interviews with many wonderful persons then I want to see Linus Torvalds in this podcast.
@burgess163303
@burgess163303 3 года назад
The discovery of Lex has come at a great point in my life. Just an incredible introduction into a whole new world.
@drakezaber
@drakezaber 3 года назад
I love the exploration of true humanity that your conversations produce. It really shines a light on legends and shows you that they are human at the core. So many amazing quotes "learn the language of your own mind" Perfect! I will try.
@stashladki2594
@stashladki2594 5 месяцев назад
wow, this was unbelieavably captivating.. randomly bumped into the episode, I'm so glad I did
@shred337
@shred337 3 года назад
Been hoping for round 2 , round 1 was incredible. Can't wait to listen!
@ikillkings
@ikillkings 3 года назад
Phenomenal conversation, thanks for introducing me to Jim Keller Lex!
@coffeemaddan
@coffeemaddan 2 года назад
Can't thank Lex and Jim enough for the food-for-thought that this whole episode provides. I'll be re-watching soon and will have a notepad nearby.
@helldunkel7898
@helldunkel7898 2 года назад
Great to hear Lex being confident enough to push back on "autonomous driving is easy" (again!). We will see where we'll be in 9 years (1 year is gone).
@danishkhalid9255
@danishkhalid9255 3 года назад
thank you! was waiting for the second one for so long!
@w1redonkey
@w1redonkey 3 года назад
Can't wait for Lex and Jordan. It's bound to happen.
@jerrymcquangledangle679
@jerrymcquangledangle679 3 года назад
I hope
@lexfridman
@lexfridman 3 года назад
Yes, eventually.
@TheRelul
@TheRelul 3 года назад
How about Lex, Jordan and Vladimir?
@henrikbergman4055
@henrikbergman4055 3 года назад
@@TheRelul Is that on a scale: Good - Meh - Evil?
@Jameswjennings
@Jameswjennings 3 года назад
27:17 one of the realest podcast moments. The depth in this tiny little courageous exchange is profound. Thank you both. 🙏🏾
@ereek5
@ereek5 3 года назад
you've had some of my favorite podcasts ever over the past couple weeks. really awesome guests and discussions.
@Marcos10PT
@Marcos10PT 3 года назад
One of my favorite guests ever, so happy to see him back on the podcast!
@Damnfool2
@Damnfool2 3 года назад
Just imagine...your two grandfathers Jim Keller and Jordan Peterson 🤯
@sbove
@sbove 3 года назад
Wow. Incredible! Thanks Lex and Jim for this tour de force dialogue. I took something like 10 pages of notes. So many valuable insights, jewels of wisdom, and great moments of humanity and humor. Both of these talks with Jim should be transcribed and published as a book on the double.
@Thecoffeefreak
@Thecoffeefreak 3 года назад
Glad to see Jim Keller -- an engineer 10x more intelligent and 10^6x more accomplished than I -- and I agree that engineering is a craft.
@mattshubat
@mattshubat 3 года назад
Man Lex is on a freakin role. Well done man, keep up the great work.
@emmanuelserafini5392
@emmanuelserafini5392 3 года назад
Does anybody else like to play the game “Where is the hedgehog today?” Love you Lex 💙🦔💙
@digitt2
@digitt2 3 года назад
I ask him to tell me what that means, when lex goes to deep for me.
@Shadowguy98
@Shadowguy98 3 года назад
Lex, long time listener, first time caller. This is quality. Your guests are extraordinary. I'm always captured by your breadth though. You bring not only the research but all the research of every interview before.
@leonardjohnny67
@leonardjohnny67 3 года назад
What a fantastic use of 2+ hours this has been. Not just in the technical domain Jim is such an interesting guy and thinker. He clearly enjoyed it too and for good reason you’re exactly as a good interviewer should be, kudos!
@gabrielfkeith
@gabrielfkeith 3 года назад
Much longer this time, so glad for that!
@jamescampi50
@jamescampi50 3 года назад
Let loose with the advice at the end. Nice perspective. Love the laughter.
@ninadesianti9587
@ninadesianti9587 3 года назад
One of my favorite people! Clear thinking, easy to talk to, cut the crap and just make things work, most importantly very patient.
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