Jimmy Argues With Kim About Bar Hearing | Wiedersehen | Better Call Saul 

Kim has the patience of a saint.

this argument is really genuine, he's so angry at his circumstances that he takes it out on someone who actually cares for him, that's about as real as it gets in relationships with people who self-sabotage

“Kinda lawyer guilty people hire” That line from Ms. Kettlemen really stuck with Jimmy…

“Jimmy you are always down.” Truest words ever said

“Jimmy, you are always down.” That fucking HURT.

Funny thing is Jimmy was actually being sincere at the bar hearing

Bob is such an incredible actor. It doesn’t look like he’s even acting, but instead in that very setting, experiencing the on screen emotion his character feels. That takes some skill!

It’s easy to forget that Jimmy still has never told anyone Chuck’s last words to him. To Jimmy (and the audience), his brother isn’t worth talking about because Chuck said he “never mattered all that much to him”. But no one else knows that, even Kim. When Jimmy says “I don’t think about Chuck” she looks at him like he’s being insincere because he is. He’s always thinking about Chuck and his disapproval. It motivates everything he does, but the only way Jimmy knows how to deal with his emotions to burying them under showmanship.

These two had the most realistic, gut punching arguments.

It’s funny cause he was sincere about his reason to being a lawyer, unfortunately they didn’t care they just wanted to hear about Chuck. In the end no matter what Jimmy does, he will always be the shadow of Chuck.

That voice crack when he says he doesn't miss Chuck. Sublime

jimmy: *antagonizes kim for supporting him and tries to bait her into coming down to his level* kim: *finally loses her patience* jimmy: “there ya go, kick a man while he’s down”

This is the moment where Jimmy became insincere.

That f-bomb hit hard and sounded so genuine💀💀

"Kick a man while he's down." "Jimmy, you are always down." I felt that on a personal level.

“…You are always down.” Man, that’s so unfortunately relatable. Lol

I love this scene. Thanks to the depth of this show, you expect Jimmy to have a point when he talks about the office and how he thinks Kim sees him as lesser, but he just doesn't. He's lashing out because he sees her as part of the "lawyer establishment" that he hates so much, so she must think of him as they do. But if she did think that way she wouldn't have got this far with him. It's good to see a character lash out because of their fears and show how fallible they are.

Saul's car really fits his personality. Unstable and ready to break down at any given moment. I love the signature wobbly engine sound it makes when idling

"You are always down" Not only hurts the way she says it, but jimmy realising she might be right. Damn, love hurts.

I almost cried seeing them argue

Kim Wexler is the best woman in the Breaking Bad universe, maybe even in all of television right now.

I'm 90% sure this is my favourite scene in a TV show tbh.

It’s as if, for a moment, he saw in her every single person who has ever doubted him. Ironically, she’s been the one person who’s always rooting for him.

To be honest, to this day I still don't know if Jimmy really feels bad about Chuck's death. I think he's such a good liar that he has completely buried the truth about his feelings even to himself.

I feel like this scene is also a huge turning point for KIM. Other commenters are mentioning that Jimmy WAS sincere, and those from the board didn't know that. Kim actually genuinely and sincerely recognizes this, but is STRUGGLING because this Jimmy is completely different from the Jimmy that loved his brother so much. It's why Jimmy reading Chuck's letter was too much for her because she could recognize how broken their relationship was after he died. Here, she's still trying to get used to Jimmy's new worldview. It's why she struggles to immediately agree that Jimmy was sincere, because she is still thinking from the straight-lawyer mindset accustomed with the nagging old version of Jimmy who loved his brother that she looked up to. If you look at the moments when Jimmy re-asserts to her that he was sincere, this isn't just her pitifully being a yes-person to him. She's personally reminding herself that Chuck's memory is a dead and bitter link to him that no one in the world can help mend. For Kim to get used to this new Jimmy and his finally-complete transformation to Saul Goodman in Season 5 and 6, Kim needed to finally perceive Jimmy in a new way. This season, and especially this scene couple with the season finale's ending, was where it is set up.

Bob really has Saul down, the hands, the emotion. Certainly my favorite actor

BCS excels in these amazing dialogue/character focused moments. Compared to BB which is more of an action/suspense focused show. Both masterpieces

Thing is they are both right and both wrong which is what makes this lovers' tiff such a good exchange! Jimmy feels insecure about the relationship and Kim's lack of accessibility cons aside (not helped that he's a very unsure of himself guy anyway) and Kim feels like she's babysitting a manchild half the time!

"You get a little bored with your life, so you come down and roll around in the dirt and have some fun with Slippin' Jimmy." Oh my god, he was 100% right.

I really like that Jimmy is both lashing out at how he's essentially screwed when trying to do things by the book. and also trying to emotionally sabotage himself by pushing away Kim because he KNOWS she's all he's got and he feels like he doesn't even deserve her. all that stuff abotu the office and slippin' jimmy. those things were probably in the back of his mind but it didn't really matter to him because of all the things Kim actually did for him and with him. he jsut brought all that up because he wanted to burn the bridge.

I remember watching a Character Analysis on Saul/Jimmy and it said that one of his biggest flaws is he’s got low self esteem, even despite the scams and his success, and you can see it in this scene. Brilliant acting

As good as Rhea Seehorn's acting is, sometimes I'm even further impressed by Bob cause he fills his character so seamless. It's like Bryan Cranston's acting. There is not a second you might think this person could be artificial cause it's so natural.

Every time I hear the word "insincere" this scene always pops into my mind. The acting here is brilliant - Kim seems genuinely emotional here and Jimmy's eccentric raging is insanely entertaining. "Oh, what a mistake it was to take me up to your office... IN THE SKYYY! You'll never do that again!"

I love how jimmy is completely absolutely 100% wrong in this scene and yet we can feel him

This is so real. I think Kim really thought less of him, but will never admit it to herself because she loved him. And Jimmy isn't arguing her as Kim, he is talking to everyone who ever hurt him with the words he repeats. Hurt for both sides is inevitable.

Jimmy S4: You have some fun with Slippin Jimmy Kim S6: I was having too much fun.

I love how you can tell Kim is mentally preparing to take on the full emotional blow of Jimmy's breakdown. The way she puts out that cigarette just as she hears Jimmy's shitbox suzuki esteem screeching its way unto the rooftop it's like she's saying, "alright, here we go"

3:32 i cant believe this acting from Rhea Seehorn its so real the frustration of trying to genuinly talk to someone who's so caught up in their misery they basically just wanna show how bitter they are more than anything

2:06 i love you can tell that, despite him saying chuck doesnt matter to him, he is still thinking about what he said before he died

Definitely one of the best scenes so far in the show

So fun to come back and experience this after the end. It's amazing everything they built up in the series, every step of the way.

you could really see the number chuck did on jimmy he’s so insecure and begins to think kim doesn’t want to be a law partner with him because of the way chuck treated him. he really believes kim sees him the same way chuck did.

Jimmy WAS insincere, the finale just confirms that. He repressed his feelings all the way, that's what really made him Saul in the first place. Y'all really misunderstood this scene, him not saying anything about Chuck was a CHOICE, and he left it out because Chuck hurt his feelings, but in the hearing they asked for his inspiration, and we all know Chuck is what got him into being a lawyer in the first place.

It’s so ironic that when Jimmy was being sincere during the hearing he gets denied but, when he’s genuinely insincere, he gets his law license back. Great subtle commentary on the justice system, honestly.

0:00 - This is the moment Jimmy McGill became, Jimmy McQueen.

"you are always down" is so hurtful

Two brilliant actors.

Sucks that he was ultimately right about Kim wanting “to roll around in the dirt with Jimmy”

Mentioning your dead brother for sympathy is literally the opposite of sincere

they are phenomenal actors, the delivery, the acting, even the micro micro expressions. They just GETS it. I hope Rhea and Bob win the emmys and many more awards cuz they deserved it a lot. like a LOT.

After watching this scene, I thought that Kim was out of Jimmy’s league as a romantic partner. After watching the finale of season 5, I realized that Kim is also out of Jimmy’s league as a con artist.

0:35 I love how this show doesn’t have a lot of f bombs, so when they come out, they really hit like a truck

The insecurity from Jimmies past and Chuck sowed in him sit SO deep! It's such a reflexive defense mechanism of his he can't even control it propperly. No wonder he invendet Saul Goodman as a shield! "If I cannot make them happy I might as well be what they believe me to be. At least then I won't have to try anymore!" 😔

Jimmy, you are always down.... That line went hard.....

this is the moment saul became drift king

"You are NOT being downed, Jimmy. You ARE down." "A man gets kicked when he's down and I think that of you? No. YOU ARE. THE ONE WHO KICKS."

3:57 Saul: There you go! Kick a man when he's down bad in 4K! Kim: Jimmy, you are always down bad in 4K.

It's such a breath of fresh air to see a show where two people in a relationship stay in a relationship no matter how many scenes like this play out. I'm not saying it's a healthy one, I'm just saying I've been waiting for the mandatory 'break-up' or 'pause in relationship' scene since the first season, and it hasn't happened yet.

Their is a lot to go over from this conversation and argument alone. 1. Right off the bat, the way Jimmy handles guilt is through extreme amounts of denial and indifference. Jimmy will always love Chuck, but after all the hurtles Chuck placed unto Jimmy’s path, he can’t help but resent his brother for his extremely tuff and brutal judgment of him. Chuck’s the reason why they are having this conversation in the first place as Chuck decided to record and set Jimmy up. Death is a cut-off point for many people. Death doesn’t solve all the left-over problems the other person left. So Jimmy is still holding unto so much anger and doesn’t even want to mention him all that much because he feels like he’s still trapped behind Chuck’s shadow. 2. Obviously what’s happening is that Jimmy is projecting unto Kim. Everything he says, it’s what he thinks about himself. Clearly in the presence of Kim, he feels lesser and less worthy to be beside her. Kim, at this point in time, is everything Jimmy is not. She is a well respected and beloved lawyer with a Multi-million-dollar client, who has her own department and associates. She receives many awards, many praises, and a lot of respect. Jimmy at this point is just selling phones to criminals and running his operation like a criminal organization. This show is so incredible for how complex each character feels and if you look through the eyes of all of these characters, their reasons and actions all make sense to them and only them.

1:04 This never fails to make me laugh.

The f bomb is so cold

I went through such arguments (professional matters mostly) with my lovely wife of 17 years, and it is always painful as hell. When you are so angry at a situation (to the point of driving like Jimmy at the beginning, for real - ROTFL). Yet the wife is supportive; but you are so incensed, so blinded by rage you end turning the wife against you, even if she is of the sweetest kind. She ends up saying "you are so angry, even I can't argue with you. Call me back when the rage and anger have cooled down, and then we may discuss it further." That's the crux of the matter. And the only way to proceed. Also one humiliation and then all the old files are out, and all the red buttons you'd better not to press (I have my owns, from my youth: family, school bullying... you'd better not press those red buttons. Yet one major frustration, and they all come floating up,, the bastards.) Here Jimmy evidently is blinded by rage and anger, because of that hearing. Yet having to discuss a) Chuck b) his sincerity at the bar hearing, he ends turning Kim from supportive to angry at him. Throwing one bomb after another, in her face. 1-"Why are we discussing Chuck ?" 2-"You think I was not sincere !" 3-"You see me as slippin' Jimmy !" 4-"We don't have an office together !" With these four bombs, Kim turns from supportive to angry at him. And that's very sad. What's more, you can see that trying to discuss points 1, 2 and 3 with Jimmy is very, very sensitive stuff. If even Kim can't discuss those matters with Jimmy, then who can ? noone can then. If the love of his life can't heal the scars, then nobody will. How sad.

This is the moment jimmy doesn’t realise that all he needs is therapy.

This video deserves wayy more views. One of the best scenes in the show.

The crazy thing about this argument is that on some level, Jimmy was kind of right. Of course, he had no right to lash out his frustration at Kim, but when he says “have some fun with Slippin’ Jimmy,” Kim IMMEDIATELY got defensive! she admits later that she loves conning because it’s fun

this is one of my favorite scenes of any show I've ever watched

Amazing scene!! I think I sided more torwards Kim, but then you realize that Jimmy is telling the truth about not missing Chuck and it's frustraring that no one believes him.

Kim said she might not answer his call next time Even after their divorce she still answered :(

Kim is the kind of girl that every man needs in their life. Someone always there for u and has ur back.

Jimmy's solution going forward isn't to be more sincere. It's to be a better liar

pretty sure this is my favourite episode in the show, or at least my fave scene. so real and raw and good

This scene hits hard. It's the culmination after a lot of build up that was created slowly from season one. Their performances are obviously brilliant.

This scene is one of the main reasons why I love season 4 so much

My favorite thing about this argument is that both of them are telling the truth.

One of the most well written and delivered argues I have ever seen

How, in the living hell, have these two not won Emmys yet? The worst of Game of Thrones won best show, and these 2 actors get NOTHING for their performances... It's a stain on the academy

Surprised the $200 Esteem survived the high speed parking lot drift :-D

This is like when mom and dad argue

The stuff he says about chuck hits different after the finale

Jimmy, Chuck is your brother, so cry a little then you are reinstated

he was right about the “roll around in the dirt” part.

Understand his fixation on the office. If you hate yourself or your situation you're always going to needle into some reason why the person you care most about secretly hates you

The last 2 episodes of season 4 are just so real. The viewer understands how Jimmy bottled up all of his emotions about Chuck and is letting them out improperly, like in this argument with Kim or in the next episode with Ms. Esposito.

I can relate so hard to Saul here. So focused on the goal that he never considers if he's actually doing anything to earn it.

My gahd, this scene is gold. I love the lines, acting, all in all! This is perfect.

I know Jimmy is supposed to look pathetic in this scene (actually, he's pathetic in every scene he is in) but damn! He is the only guy on Earth that managed to make Suzuki Esteem look cool.

02:49 watched this over and over yet this was my favorite part. Jimmy's reaction is hilarious

"The kind of lawyer guilty people hire" damn, betsy kettleman really hurt him back in season 1

God the acting in this scene is amazing

"Jimmy you are always down." Oof

Great acting. Incredible storyline. I'm on pins and needles to see what happens in the final season. What happens to Kim, Nacho, and Lalo - even Howard. When does Tuco get out of the slammer and how will he be involved this oncoming train wreck? So many unanswered questions and loose ends.

I Just realized it's the same parking lot where Walt and Jesse shake hands in season 4 ending

This is the moment Jimmy McGill became Kevin Costner

This scene makes me angry because I’m just reminded that Bob didn’t win an Emmy for season 4 or 5

“You get a little bored with your life so you come down and roll around in the dirt, have some fun with slippin Jimmy!” * cries in funny friend *

one of the best scenes

It says a lot about how broken the justice system is in this universe that they were basically waiting to hear Jimmy talk about how great Chuck is and how important he is to him after the dude went on an unhinged rant on record about how awful Jimmy is and how he never deserved to be a lawyer and is a menace to society. They KNOW what Chuck said and did to his brother, and how damaging that would be, it's the only reason he wasn't disbarred. Despite that, they're still waiting for it and call him insincere when he doesn't mention him at all, something almost anyone would do after what he said. Like, that's relationship-ending stuff. You never move on from it. Even when Chuck was clearly in the wrong (even though we viewers know he was right about him in a way, at least modifying the documents) they still punished Jimmy and wanted him to parrot some bullshit about how great his brother is.

0:37 there was the one allotted f bomb for the season and it works so well

0:10 I swear this shot is one of the coolest scene of all time. Kim looks like she is about to kill someone with words

By season 6 they pretty much confirm that she does have fun rolling in the dirt with Slippin Jimmy. Crazy how accurate Jimmy's description would become.