Jimmy Page's Secret Distortion Trick

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Thanks again to James Santiago and Dave Berners for showing me this crazy trick, and to Universal Audio for sponsoring todays video!
Today we're at the Universal Audio headquarters checking out their new 1176 Compressor pedal, but more importantly, the two pieces of gear that its modeled after, and the crazy trick that was used on Led Zeppelin's classic Black Dog.
And thank you to Philip Conrad@philipconradmusic (bass) and Chad Collins @Chadman_Aye (drums) for playing in the studio for this one!
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@UniversalAudio 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Rhett! Was great hanging with you & your crew at HQ 🙌

@TrevorrNourse 10 месяцев назад

UA Team - love this pedal, really impactful!! Improved my tone!

@StanleyCullerEsq. 10 месяцев назад

James Santiago is a goddamned national treasure! I've never heard a single interview with him that he didn't say at least a dozen things that blew my mind.

@whiplash415 10 месяцев назад

I love this video. Please make more videos about Zeppelin tones

@saucerfullofzepp4203 10 месяцев назад

This Please!!!!!!

@voronOsphere 10 месяцев назад

Heck yeah!

@jeffdixon847 10 месяцев назад

You’ll have to wait for another pedal company to promote something that has a Zeppelin play to it. This isn’t a Zeppelin tutorial. It’s an ad.

@voronOsphere 10 месяцев назад

@@jeffdixon847 It's the kind of ad I love!

@voronOsphere 10 месяцев назад

@@jeffdixon847 BTW, not all Rhett Skull uploads are ads. He can do more videos about Jimmy Page's tone without it being an ad.

@horizontalblanking 10 месяцев назад

James is a MONSTER player. Watched him and Dweezil just shred the last time I saw the ZPZ band. Absolute legend.

@georgejames8718 10 месяцев назад

As an acoustic guitar player, I usually don't bother to watch videos about guitar pedals. I really appreciate how you presented this pedal and all of the background on how and why it was created. Thank you, Rhett and Universal Audio! Now, if I could only play enough electric guitar to make it worth buying one of those pedals...

@squiertelecaster6854 10 месяцев назад

Jimmy's real secret trick is ... He is really good, he played great compositions.

@b00ts4ndc4ts 10 месяцев назад

It's the feeling he puts in his playing, the contrast between light and dark and that comes with playing all the time, putting in the graft isn't it?

@richardclark. 10 месяцев назад

Everyone talks about Eddie's swing and he had it in spades. But Page had that, and so much feel, Touch, mood, pocket, etc... Even being a legend Page is under rated.

@eriksebastian6637 10 месяцев назад

Tone is all about the jacket

@jordan11752 10 месяцев назад

Yes and also he was a great producer/ audio technician

@DeadWhiteButterflies 10 месяцев назад

Yup. The real trick is actually showing up to practice, but we all know guitarist don't wanna hear that. It has to be the magical diodes.

@ChristianInSanDiego 10 месяцев назад

As you pointed out, James seems like he has some real depth of knowledge on this stuff. I'd like to hear more! Rock on kids!🤘

@davidmajor4484 10 месяцев назад

Two things Thank you Rhett for doing this video Please don't have the background music competing with your dialog .

@jayeaston13 10 месяцев назад

Cool and well-executed idea for a pedal, and this video was really well-done overview of how to get creative with studio compressors by showing in detail how to stack and dial in the 1176s for legendary sounds. Pedal sounds stellar too. Bravo Rhett and James!

@CyberneticArgumentCreator 10 месяцев назад

I think what's crucial to understanding how Page's tone on Black Dog wasn't as farty and brittle as what we hear here is because they EQ'd the crap out of it. It's the same drive happening, but they tamed it considerably for the final mix.

@voronOsphere 10 месяцев назад

Plus blending it with more traditional electric guitar sounds.

@quadrogong1111 10 месяцев назад

@@voronOsphereBINGO

@annode 10 месяцев назад

@@voronOsphere Like what? Where's that coming from? I'm hearing an effect in that Black Dog mix, maybe an octave box or fast leslie. Sounds double tracked as well. (who knows)

@pungeon 10 месяцев назад

@@annode it's triple tracked and the solo is played through a leslie

@loydthabartender5794 10 месяцев назад

Hes also playing an overdriven tele double tracked over the fuzz part during some parts

@FirstActuality 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for not having just a clickbait title and a few throwaway remarks (about playing style or something) but actually delivering with some new information.

@tobymearing8407 10 месяцев назад

i've learned so much here! studio compression usage starts to make a lotta sense - thanks to you all

@eddiejr540 10 месяцев назад

One of the most fun and interesting “commercials” I have watched in a long time 👍

@mrwizardalien 10 месяцев назад

The pedal just arrived and it's better than I was even expecting! great as a sustaining compression, great as a kind of boost, and it can even do a kind of fuzz sound when combined with other pedals!

@Epitome63 10 месяцев назад

Amazing how much effort goes into recreating an ad hoc sound of the 70s.

@domidigital 4 месяца назад

Exactly what I was thinking 😂 I can envision Page saying: “you know what, let me just plug into the console and crank it once.” Then he plays and plant says “sounds shite, to be honest”. And then Bonham says “right, but the groove is tight, let’s leave it and jam on that.” And THATS how Black Dog was born.

@mark.guitar 10 месяцев назад

Superb video Rhett. This is the first decent explaination of what UA have put in their 1176 pedal. More importantly it explains why. Cheers.

@SimpleManGuitars1973 10 месяцев назад

Jimmy Page will always be a mystery. It's actually what makes him cool. On Stairway he was using that little Supro Coronado amp with a Tele just cranked to the max. I've got the Jimmy Page Mirror Tele that he was using on that and man that thing is absolutely awesome. Then there are songs like No Quarter and Whole Lotta Love where he just gets absolutely mind blowing tones that we'll never be able to replicate. Jimmy Page is so cool.

@john564holloway 10 месяцев назад

Precisely said!

@bryanwilliams3665 10 месяцев назад

Yes, the Studio tones are basically impossible. On my last video is my new MSG pickups which do the 73 tour sounds.

@digiorno1142 8 месяцев назад

I’ve actually gotten very close to the WLL tone myself. The trick is to have your les paul in the middle position and have treble volume at max and rhythm volume at about 6. The rest are just amp settings that are easy to mess around with but gain should be at 4.

@timetraveler8777 8 месяцев назад

@@digiorno1142I also gotten a very close WLL tone , Page Used the Vox UL7120 with a built in distortion activated, I have a the Lumpy Overdrive 7 that is based on that fuzzy overdrive that those amps had , and I'm using it into a Vox amp , with a Les Paul with the pickup in middle position.

@peacefulruler1 4 месяца назад

@@timetraveler8777watch It Might Get Loud WLL section…he shows the fuzz pedal he used.

@jellytroid 10 месяцев назад

Gotta say this tone is so cool to me. I would never have considered for someone to get the idea to do that at the time.

@ncd1967 10 месяцев назад

Yeah! I remember hearing this story from Mason at Vertex when their Nyle Comp/Mic Pre came out. One of the settings of the Nyle gets you in this territory.

@4unkb0y 3 месяца назад

super tips folks, awesome stuff. I never understood why my stereo compressor has a button to dump one channel into the other. now I do. thanks!

@omoon66 10 месяцев назад

This actually sounds so cool, never would have thought to do this!

@andypomeroy7447 10 месяцев назад

SWEET! Now I want another pedal. This is a great video & sharing of information to help us be better players.

@unacuentadeyoutube13 10 месяцев назад

Jimmy and all the greats back then managed to make the best sound out of what they had. We now have infinitely more specific gear and stil try to copy their old set ups. We guitarists are hard to please!

@dodgedandle8311 10 месяцев назад

I know it’s Madness gone Mad , All the Gear and endless possibilities, AI and god knows whatever other Nonsense and yet The Best was still Done with them Great Bands from The 60s and 70s with stuff that hasn’t been bettered really when you think about it,it’s just a bit more convenient now.. 👍🏻⭐️

@danmorrison8746 10 месяцев назад

I'm pleased.

@Stratguy10NZ 10 месяцев назад

Super educational - thanks heaps Rhett and UA

@tihinter 10 месяцев назад

Nice to see a Publison Infernal Machine in the rack at UAs. Everything else they emulated already. So now we know what will come next year.

@NewHopeAudio 10 месяцев назад

I like the Isbell slide lick. I remember learning about the Lowell George thing because of the Slide Rig pedal that Jason used.

@martinaddison4880 10 месяцев назад

I have the Slide Rig and it is a very cool pedal.

@craigwillms61 10 месяцев назад

I personally don't care for that distortion sound. If I heard that coming out of my gear, I'd be convinced something had blown. I'd grab my handy Tube Screamer!!!!!

@BluesboyJagCigarBoxGuitar 10 месяцев назад

Huge Zip fan, IV was one of thre first lp's I purchased in 1977. Thanks for this video!

@yohanonshine4664 10 месяцев назад

I'm more of a metal guy but it never hurts to see what people do for a cool tone tks Rhett

@dougcrowe1226 10 месяцев назад

Interesting use of compression. I dig clean sounds and that had some lush clean tone without sounding muted or boxy

@davebishop2566 10 месяцев назад

I have a couple Warm Audio 1176’s. Will have to try this. I used to play through an old tube amp record player console when I was a kid, probably in 1976. About that time I got my first real guitar amp a PV Backstage. I smoked that amp and a guy Mike Metz a now famous technician out of Wichita Kansas built that Backstage into a really great amp. It was a solid state amp that smoked some of my friends tube amplifiers at the time. As far as recording, I have no clue. I had an RCA record cutter and I used a EV microphone into a Fostex 4 track and straight into the RCA.

@curtisprice9806 4 месяца назад

SOUNDS SO SO GOOD!!! MAGICAL

@jeremythornton433 10 месяцев назад

Now I have to try this with my Strat running in and out and back in both channels of my ART VLA II stereo compressor. It won't be the same, but it might be amazing in it's own way! You never know until you try.

@thedynamicsolo4232 10 месяцев назад

Nearly 60 years ago and we are still digging into the sounds of Led Zeppelin. Were they geniuses or did they find some felicity in messing around with the equipment? I mean, how do you get stoned, find a certain pitch, amplification, setting and not forget it, but patent it and build on it. What really impressed me with their muscianship was "Carouselambra" from "In through the out door". A seminal work with great nuance, change patterns and strange ambience emitting from the lower strings of Page's playing.

@john564holloway 10 месяцев назад

Nicely put!

@handgunner1911 10 месяцев назад

Page is a genius and an innovator actually they all were in my opinion

@coldacre 10 месяцев назад

they just used the tools that were available to them at the time. if Zep had formed in 2018 and not 1968… they would have used plugins in a DAW for flavour.

@peacefulruler1 4 месяца назад

The recording engineers did a lot of the innovation. I read that Page was using Gibson Lab series solid state amps for Carouselambra

@alekandamek 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for remembering Lowell George and Little Feat!

@TheErikBleich 10 месяцев назад

It’s cool that you only get the fuzz on the transients. That clean sustain is a unique character.

@professorpedropontes4402 10 месяцев назад

Not only the gear does brilliant stuff, your slide playing blew me away.

@robmcgaughey1938 9 месяцев назад

Great video Rhett!!! Very educational and inspiring on how to get more out of compression . Also there is some really gear in the background…

@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 10 месяцев назад

@8:00 running your rig through an ancient tube tape recorder you can get some of these similar vibes. The tubes act as the compressor.

@voronOsphere 10 месяцев назад

Great video! Thanks, guys!

@Rootsdeep82 10 месяцев назад

Love the historic take on where Page got that icon is sound. Taking a sound that isn’t necessarily pleasing and working into the mix. Great content Rhett!

@SimpleManGuitars1973 10 месяцев назад

I used to record with a guy that literally makes almost every band he produces play a generic rhythm track on every song and sometimes even an acoustic on every song. Regardless of genre or how heavy the music is supposed to be. The only thing I personally don't like as much about that is I always wanted to be able to recreate the sounds live. If you listen to Zeppelin live there were just things they couldn't recreate live but their records are seriously insanely awesome sounding.

@Rootsdeep82 10 месяцев назад

@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I can see where he’s going with that method. Must Nice to have flavors to mix in when the need be. Interesting point! What do you have if it can’t be performed live? I kind of all went for that gut feeling of “ is this in the soul of rock n’ roll” when writing. Have i gone to far out that I can’t get back in? I’m just a guy trying to play a song. Getting to what ever the song needs.

@dreamscuba 5 месяцев назад

Great video. I had heard about the distortion coming from several compressors, but never seen it demonstrated. I think the key, as articulated in the video - in the context of a mix. By itself, it doesn’t sound great. But, in a mix, it works so well. Nice.

@jamesmarciniec4787 10 месяцев назад

Great video. I remember reading about this technique being used on Black Dog a bunch of years ago. When tracked with multiple guitars and used in a subtle way its a great effect but by itself not so much.The Beatles used this technique as well. Keep these great videos coming.

@annode 10 месяцев назад

Yes, Lennon's guitar is straight to board for 'Revolution'. Maybe same as 'Black Dog'?

@nancyvanrijn9732 10 месяцев назад

Great video, looove that slide sound 🤤

@paullevinson2010 10 месяцев назад

OMG, for years I've been saying that a lot of Page's sound in studio never sounded like an amp I ever heard and thought maybe it was direct input like bass players do and tweaked out in the mix! Finally, clarification about all that! The sound quality of the double 1176's sounds similar to an out-of-phase switch (OOP) so prior to all this my thought was he used his pickups switched OOP through a pedal and direct into the board and pre-amped by the channel gain. Anyways, this has all been very enlightening. Thank you so much! 🤘🤘

@peacefulruler1 4 месяца назад

Don’t forget his Germanium Fuzz pedal was used for Whole Lotta Love and others

@blueslawyer 10 месяцев назад

I love this method with the EHX Black Finger.

@Glicksman1 10 месяцев назад

Very cool guys. I've been using two compressors in series for many years as a foundation for both clean and OD sounds. I'm gonna try this OD trick. Thank you.

@annode 10 месяцев назад

I think these comps are in parallel.

@Glicksman1 10 месяцев назад

@@annode Maybe. When I have use stacked compressors they were always in series. Compressors in parallel create a different, more aggressive and very nice sound as well. I stack compressors in series to increase the amount of compression, maintain sharp attack, and prevent the usual compressor anomalies. Its all good, and whatever makes the best sound for you, that's what is right.

@martinaddison4880 10 месяцев назад

definitely in series@@annode

@annode 10 месяцев назад

@@martinaddison4880 I watched those meters intently for a while over and over, considering what's going on, series doesn't make any sense to me. Parallel hardly makes sense either but at least it's more probable in that configuration. No matter.

@achakhakan4189 10 месяцев назад

I'm guessing the Heartbreaker solo uses a really high level of compression, and a noise gate, which creates that chaotic sound. You might want to look into that as well.

@bryanwilliams3665 10 месяцев назад

Its an underwound PAF but a unique one. I was lucky to know Jimmy guitar tech..I build both the Pre April 72 and Post April 72s sets . The Madison Square Garden set is on my channel last vid.

@tc66 7 месяцев назад

@@bryanwilliams3665and you build them so very well!!!❤

@peacefulruler1 4 месяца назад

I think it’s a cranked Plexi

@thomassabarly6700 10 месяцев назад

Bro Dr. Berners is ripped, amazing video btw

@uncountedvoter9449 10 месяцев назад

What a great clean sound! It pops just right. And that is Black Dog 100%

@econSD 10 месяцев назад

super interesting video. thanks for the quality content as usual ✌

@IL2TXGunslinger 10 месяцев назад

And that’s why I have an Origin Effects Slide rig on my board. 2 x 1176

@marcoalexanderwinthermikke9132 10 месяцев назад

Thats cool! I thought it was the EchoRec that did that😂 Great video! James is a Wizard! 🧙‍♂️

@imspartacvs 5 месяцев назад

Nice Thanks for showcasing UA Great stuff -Matt- Hudson Valley, NY

@xeode 10 месяцев назад

some great playing on this

@richardclark. 10 месяцев назад

I have had the pleasure of recording this way on occasion. Something that wasn't touched on was that your guitar and pup choice become very important. Tele gonna Tele and a master gonna jazz.

@SimpleManGuitars1973 10 месяцев назад

One of the greatest distortions I've ever heard is the Paperback Writer tone and I've heard that George Harrison was literally just plugged into to the board with it cranked. You think he was using this same trick to get that sound?

@doughull9287 10 месяцев назад

Great content. Thanks Rhett!

@strangeuniverse1199 10 месяцев назад

Jimmy Page was going to the moon with his ideas and musicianship in the late 60's and early 70's while everybody else was still on planet earth. (however Hendrix had already landed on Mars at the time!)

@mrcopeland3996 10 месяцев назад

Very Interesting. Complex to me. Would love to have that set.

@gyslainbeauchamp9241 10 месяцев назад

Great review,Nice trick,

@ricktheexplorer 10 месяцев назад

There are free 1176 compressor plugins and I just downloaded some of them. Thank you once again for the esoteric musical knowledge.

@user-pu5sk1zc8s 10 месяцев назад

I believe Jimmy used this trick all over the first album and people mistake the effect for his tone bender. The solo in You Shook Me, the fuzzy upper octave in Dazed and Confuzed and the main riff on How Many More Times. I believe it is used on Bring It on Home, the solo in Tangerine, the fuzzy slide parts in When the Levee Breaks, and the main riff in No Quarter. It is my feeling it was his secret ace up his sleeve when he wanted a guitar part to ooze sleaze.

@timetraveler8777 8 месяцев назад

Led Zeppelin I is the crunch of supro, and some songs tonebender mk2, led zeppelin II is the distortion built- in of the vox UL7120, this trick is on black dog , no quarter, and some other songs.

@leeyoungun 2 месяца назад

I agree with the upper octave in Dazed. Not sure about You Shook Me. Page did say he drove a Leslie speaker cab with the desk, but I think the Tone Bender was also in there. Page has also stated that he drove the Leslie cab with the desk for How Many More Times. Zep II was a Vox UL, but I think there is some desk distortion on top of the amp’s natural distortion. Some of the drum tracks sound like the dual 1176 driving things into distortion.

@BrazosP 10 месяцев назад

Great post. I still don’t understand that 1176 compressor…maybe make 3 short videos about how to use it…some of us have U/A software gear, so we have all those knobs!

@albert30300 10 месяцев назад

Awesome Rhett - learned a lot in this video

@astrovenus8345 10 месяцев назад

Wow., this was such a dope vid Dude. Kudos. Im sold.

@toneseeker87 10 месяцев назад

That what is a compressor should be doing! Thanks for the awesome content Rhett.

@stickman55100 10 месяцев назад

Great explanation and demo of a phenomenal compression system.

@timmungenast 10 месяцев назад

Such great sounds in here! This would be great for Under the Bridge.

@resofactor 10 месяцев назад

This was a really kick ass video, yo. Shout out to UA.

@DaisyHollowBooks 10 месяцев назад

Very informative. Compression in general has always been a mystery to me..

@chesneytube1 10 месяцев назад

Nothing screams rock and roll more than affiliate links

@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 10 месяцев назад

I never knew the exact gear he used but it sounded like an overdriven FET stage in a compressor.. I had assumed he just used the console built in compressor stage when the Solid State boards starting coming out (late 60s) .. it just has that sound (double tracked ) . Cool to see it was this gear..and it was ubuitous stuff at the time to see this gear. So he used the console and outboard gear - yes it adds a flavor for sure it speaks volumes about the quality of these mixing consoles as well.

@GScott50 10 месяцев назад

I have two Cali76 pedals (big box and compact) - I'm going to try this!

@tah5w 10 месяцев назад

Also, you can get this sound by turning off the Cab/IR and play a gained up plexi model preamp through studio monitors

@cureyting 10 месяцев назад

So I just finished watching this video and thanks cause it was super interesting. Always great to see how historical sounds were made, for us guitar nerds. My next thought was hey, if you can achieve this with two standalone compressors, can you then stack two digital compressors, in a HX stomp, (Helix) environment and get either the clean sustain or even the Jimmy page distortion out of it? Could be additional content…I know I’d watch!

@omoon66 10 месяцев назад

I thought the same thing, so I tried it out. The Helix/HX doesn't have a model of an 1176 that I know of, so I just used two Deluxe Comps (which according to their manual is a Line 6 original.) From my limited testing I can't get the distortion with just compressors, as maxing out the level control on the first comp into the second comp just makes it louder but with no distortion. You can use the mic pre amp block to add some gain and I think it sounds somewhat similar. But the clean dual compressor sound is really cool and I've been loving it

@820hurleyj 10 месяцев назад

Very interesting video. It kind of drives home the functionality of compression. Who knew you could stack compressors!?! I guess Jimmy Page and probably a lot of others, but I didn't. Thanks!

@jonnahkaymoffitt6885 10 месяцев назад

Jimmy Page a true pioneer of rock n roll

@HomoChomsky 10 месяцев назад

DI guitar sounds are underrated. Of course you can't get them to sound like a traditional amp, but that's the point. Sometimes, you just need an heavily compressed, heavily EQed direct signal to get your sound to stand out in the mix.

@teresathomley3703 10 месяцев назад

Lovely slide tones

@WilliamofKent 10 месяцев назад

Sorry, that did not sound like the original Black Dog tone to me. But maybe I'm missing something.

@williambock1821 10 месяцев назад

The original was recorded through the console. They’d have eq’d it from there.

@jimbeaux4988 10 месяцев назад

I dont know about the distortion sound, but that clean compression is the business. No wonder the 1176 is beloved.

@user-pu5sk1zc8s 10 месяцев назад

A note about How Many More Times. The direct compressed track is played in tandem with a standard overdriven amp track. If you isolate the correct side you will hear a WALL of fuzz.

@jasondorsey7110 10 месяцев назад

Got an 18 volt dod performer compressor from the 80s, sounds killer and can boost a signal like nobody's business, if one crosses your path don't turn your nose up at it

@tomblaze2 10 месяцев назад

Great stuff 😮

@crate5150 10 месяцев назад

That is amazing that you can get that sound in a pedal.

@jimmyhartman573 10 месяцев назад

at the time a HARD working studio musician , who just said " Listen to this " Let me lay this on ya .! And man we all were having the same vibe , this was a whole new sound of rock and roll . . he took the dirt path of music and paved the way for generations of musicians . . Brilliant is an understatement imho

@Maplefuzz3542 10 месяцев назад

I love geeking over Jimmy Page and Zeppelin ✨

@pauldemattia2419 9 месяцев назад

Once asked in 1975 who his favorite American band was Page said Little Feat. RIP Lowell George Fortunately, Lowell passed the torch to Bonnie Raitt before he passed.

@liontribegc 10 месяцев назад

History modernized in a pedal? Amazing video Cheers from Texas! 🤟😺🤟

@voronOsphere 10 месяцев назад

I want that 1176 pedal!!!

@amiriteshyalaman 10 месяцев назад

This video and the Ross pedals relaunch have me excited about where the craft of guitar playing is headed

@FeelingShred 10 месяцев назад

Compression is a funny thing... Lately I have been using a system-wide compressor in my Windows computer just to level out sound between different channels and I have been enjoying listening to music with the compressor on. For music that you already know it's interesting, it seems to bring out certain sounds hidden in the mix and bring these aspects up to the front, particularly nice for acoustic guitar songs

@FeelingShred 10 месяцев назад

don't go too high on volume otherwise blow up speakers 🤣🤣 use with caution

@mantashaft 10 месяцев назад

I am considering a new compressor these days... haven't narrowed it down too much yet. But this is intriguing

@IamMedicine 10 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@stephenreese9841 10 месяцев назад

That sounded awesome… pure ‘accidental’ genius

@brianwood7237 10 месяцев назад

And you got to go to Santa Cruz too...not a bad trade off

@Stereostupid 10 месяцев назад

It actually sounds fantastic like a fat fuzz but flat and bitey goes great with your last video on the Ross pedals right into the board !try the Ross compressor into this compressor or try two separate compressors

@adelok 10 месяцев назад

It sounds like a made in taiwan ds1 going straight into my stereo back in 2001

@shakespearethief2773 10 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@tone1798 10 месяцев назад

Rhett, you keep hitting them out of the park! I am learning so much from the great content, conversations and playing that this channel offers! THANK YOU!