Jinhsi VS ChangLi VS Camellya | In-depth Mechanics Analysis! Save For Who?! (PINNED COMMENT!) 

Edited: Added test footage for ChangLi RESUMIING BA5 POST DODGE AND INTERRUPT: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RC1YKoXRb3Q.html 08:45 In this video also covers it! Important mechanic! As @Jim4159a pointed out in the comments, if we reach BA4, dodge will not reset since we have reached true sight. But if we get interrupted BA1-3, we will go back, unless we dodge and that puts us straight into BA3. Guess that's why they are selling the Sequence 1... Need to see if that completely stops knockbacks... Detailed CN Guide for Jinhsi in case you missed it: Jinhsi - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aS_SKt5bNGo.html

The fact that we are arguing on every aspect of a character for which is more preferable means that kuro is cooking hard on the designs and gameplay

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one thing I want to point out, as cool as the blindfold ult is, it's basically a sign you fucked up since her ult gives her full stacks so you might want to consume them before you ult

its kinda smart how sequence in this game remove skill issue instead of changeing the character play style. it let the whale have an incentive to whale, while dont force non spender to spent

I saved for Changli, ended up getting Jinhsi, still have some left, decided to save it and save some more to get Changli, realized Jinhsi's weapon options sucked, so tried to get the weapon early, got it kinda early at 40 pulls. So now I have just a tiny bit of pulls left for Changli and her weapon. Sooooo, I'm guessing if exploration and free pulls don't give me enough to get her and her weapon, I'll be spending. Coz I will not skip her. And I've already accepted my faith of spending again the next patch if Camellya realeases straight after Changli. You drive a hard bargain Kuro Games. You greedy greedy slimy bastards. I swear Camellya would be the last character I'll be spending on (aside from Phrolova). Curses.

Ive been trying to find good guides for changli and yours is the best by far. Thank you!

Great guide! Your voice is so clear, I can understand each mechanic. Thank you!

You're so good at making characters likeable by showing their appeal and explaining their kit, I've watched a lot of videos about Changli but you're the only one to convince me to pull for her 😭 wish I didn't watch this but you have a new subscriber

good review

I am not F2P, so will be going for Changli, but this is definitely a good video to help those who are saving to choose which one they want to pull for. But I can see the issue you mentioned on Changli needing dupes to really make use of some of her kit. But will see how that goes with her S1 in terms of what you were speculating on it. I will at least be getting her and her weapon. I ended up just pushing thru the story so this was really helpful for you to showcase her kit. Appreciate the video, Tim!

Thanks! 14:28 14*4 = 56%, not 64% dmg bonus. Still a lot though.

Thanks for this video. Confirmed what I initially thought. Decided to go for S1R1 Jinhsi, and hope that I maybe picked up some nice 4 stars in the meantime. Unfortunately still no Mortefi or Taoqi.

but i already have Chixia why would I need anyone else

You put meta money and waifu on the thumbnail but they’re all waifus so no matter who you pull for you win

probably the best structured comaprison video i have seen so far.

making weapons guaranteed was brilliant move from kuro pretty much forces you go for it lol, that small spenders will become bigger spenders, it already got me, Changli weapon is must on her because of stacks it produces, sucks it has crit damage base though, hope get fusion echo's with high crit rate roles then

Thank u bro Imma go for changli eventhough yinlin and jinhsi make a better team but since I'm f2p so I don't need to worry too much and just go for the one that I want

Ooof changli resonance skill is the one that she jump and does judgment cut right? Looking at the s1 sequence gives resistance to interruption on resonance skill, then that long resonance skill animation don't have any i-frame.....that's kinda concerning tbh especially if you have to emergency dodge on mid-air.

2 massive reason.... i see what you did there ❤❤

Their animations are incredible and that alone makes them look so fun. I have high hopes that Camellya's will be no different, so it's really hard to pick one. That being said, I pulled for Arlecchino in Genshin and Boothill in HSR, so I feel obligated to get this game's resident black & white haired character too lmao

i see what u did there in the intro sir

I wanna put my Júe in Jinhsi.

I planned to get Jinhsi from the start and got her, still need her weapon but I will wait for the 10x weapon rolls we will get soon to save on the astrite conversion. I think I will have enough to guarantee Changli , but unless I get lucky no weapon. I intend to get her, but also will keep an eye for drip marketing and leaks that could change my mind.

Fun fact: You can also use the Space Bar phoenix attack after the 4th or 5th basic attack on Changli. You can experiment a flashy combo with her space bar ability. An aerial combo perhaps.

ok so i wanna talk bout Changli. base from this vid, the DODGE COUNTERS gives u free stacks. Switching to changli will start her basic attack at BA3 easier to reach BA5. its not bec she continuing the basic attack sequence while she dodging, its bec the dodge counter giving her free stacks while she dodging. take a look everytime she dodge counter, she always hit a 3hit attack with a slam at the end which is a free stacks.

The character designs are so good that i legit am gonna pull for all of them. Kuro's art team never miss.

Chang and Hsi both have so much future potential and that’s awesome - Chang can convert to a sub dps for a havoc unit later and Hsi can convert to a dual dps team with another burst dps that does coordinated attacks but both can play as hyper carry for now. Super cool.

I don’t really like pulling for pure DPS this early into gacha games. Very few patch 1.X DPS survive in the long run. Might pull Chungli simply because I like the whole 2 toned hair thing and her high octane combat animations. Might even skip both if the 1.2 banners have a good support on them

I just pulled S1 Jinhsi and her weapon. I am happy.

was going to s1 jinhsi but LOSING CLOTHES???, imma s2 changli instead

intro outro use concerto. not forte. best part of her outro is its a team buff so quick swapping doesn't kill it

Been planning on saving for Camellya and Phrolova, but I might end up grabbing Jinshi, because who knows when we’re really getting the other 2.

1:08 agreed. i dont think i’ve ever liked a characters design this much before

Don't get tricked by Kuro's way of showing what element a char is XD

I was planning on hard saving for camellya, but I did a few free pulls on the weapon banner and got Jinshi's weapon, so I had to get her as well obviously. I just hope I have enough for when she comes out now. Kuro please put her second half thanks.

19:46 you scared the sheet out of me.

Man I just got linyang trying to go for jinshi, then I started the story quest and changli has me questioning myself. This is such a hard choice cuz I doubt I'll get enough wishes for both. Isn't it weird tho that changli's weapon takes two skills just to buff the third? Wouldn't it make way more sense for it to buff heavy attack?

well i already locked for jinhsi since hologram call and never use asterite since launch. and yep got jinhsi & her sig . but still have 100++ roll for next character, going for changli maybe or waiting for camellya. never care about meta and synergy to begin with. only use who i like

around 11:20 u were talking about spacebar what button is spacebar for the moba players ? xD jump ?

To be fair Jinshi is akin to an Arcon/Emanator in Genshin/HSR terms, its natural for her to be that broken, I feel like the next few characters wont reach her level, Cemellya may be an exception because we dont know much about her yet, its like Acheron in HSR and how she just completely powercrept the game, she is an Emanator I think we will find that Cemellya is 100% gonna be a little stronger than Changli, but that said I am pulling both

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I watched basically every video you released in regards to Nikke, so I already know you don't bother lying about the early stuff allowed for you to test out. I"m gonna skip both Jinhsi, and Changli. I"m going to aim towards Camellya in the future. I want not just her and her weapon, I want to force getting her to bare minimum S1 at the least I could do to get her.

Well i lost 50/50 and 59 wishes in. But now i feel like sacing for next patch characters

I thought changli was a sub dps (misinformation at its height rn) but now that i know shes main dps im skipping jinshi, tysm for this vid this changed my account

I find that outside of usable weapons on her, its criminal that her main weapon is the only one that matches her esthetic, it would be nice to get some nice 4 star black weapons so they match better with other characters

hmm I don’t see an A5 scaling, do you mean a4 followed by true sight charge?

Ugh! And I finally had a early yinlin on my reroll account, if I didn’t roll for her weapon I would have jinhsi by now😔

From the leaks I have seen the standard 5 star crit rate sword is only a 12 to 15% difference, at s1. You will probally end up with more copies of it eventually. Not pulling s1 and s2 just for 10% increased damage and 25% crit rate. Yea its nice, but that by no means is game changing for her kit. Its just a luxury. I think your exaggerating a bit , if you settled for the standard 5 star sword for Jinshi there is still a 12 to 18% drop off, soo same thing really.

I'll pull for Changli even if they make her heal the enemy.

I was afraid to say this before but I skipped Jiyan but now I have enough asterite for Changli and Camellia after pulling Jinshi so I am happy.

i swear it's so hard to decide between changli and camellya, i love changli;s kit and playstyle but camellya caught my eyes first too but for now i think i might have to wait a bit for camellya's kit to fully decide cuz like if she does come out 1.2, thats like over 40days from now so that should be enough time to save

LEAK WARNING for all Camellya wanters!!! She won´t be in 1.2, which got confirmed by reliable leaker via audio snippets of the upcoming 2 characters just a few hours ago. So we got a lot of time to save or even take a shot at Jinhsi, Changli or those amazing weapons! :) Kuro also gives us 92 F2P pulls overall in 1.1. If we take that as our future average, we will have around 180 pulls starting 1.3 ( Maybe even more cuz on Kuro´s website, it is currently stated that the 1.2 maintenance will be on august 15, which would mean that 1.1 will have 7 instead of the usual 6 weeks, granting us even more astrites to save for our ivy queen )

changli: you forgot to note that she can easily do 2 forte casts. not only does she get full stacks upon intro, but she also gets full stacks after Liberation, so she is more than just forte, skill x2 swap out. is it nice to see that getting true sight from basics isn't hindered by dodging, unlike calcharo during his ult (y he doesnt get a stack from dodge counter we will never know)

I lost the 50 to encore dupe, so I’m ready to get chingli when I get her 😁

idecided to go for jinshi ill try to get Changli

I don't know. I am usually not a fan of building up stuff for big dmg. I am more of a Ganyu Zhongli Albedo fan. Press E on Zhongli, E on Albedo then go to town with Ganyu charged attacks. Instead of demolishing enemy with Raiden shogun ult then have nothing up for next fight. 😂 Jinhsi gives me those vibes. Upward to 4000% dmg but how long is the build up? I feel Changli seems more like a Ganyu. You can just stay on her and still build her forte gauge. She seems to have a more flexible rotation. She can just keep attacking and maybe Verina can come in for heals. I might play Changli, Verina and Yinlin. Some constant coord from Yinlin, Changli being main dps. Seems like a mighty good team. I'm still waiting for Zhongli in this game. My friend told me the Zhongli in this game is Jianxin. I don't know. 😂

I hope Camellya can do coordinated attack and buff skill dmg next character, that would be insane

Sooo tldr who should i summon?

Changli's weapon is a huge W though imagine equipping that thing on Danjin

someone plays other gacha games even support will get bumped off its nature of these games sadly, in HSR loucha has been such amazing sustain unit all of 1.0 and up content has fallen so far in 2.0 and up content, just better options, buffers they eventually drop off, if Camellya is "Ruan Mei" type unit then she be okay, but if she is like bronya unit she will fall off eventually, so time can tell. Personally since game is more action game ill will use everyone in Genshin i still use a lot of older units I'm find in most of content and still do well in Abyss even with old units, just take bit longer.

Just as info, most surely Camellya isnt coming in 1.2 were getting Xiangli Yao and Zhezhi (acording to leaks)

the moment i decided 3 elements for tower regardless of element tower bonus (Jiyan,Jinhsi,Havoc MC)) i'll have to properly set them up first before getting the other ones.. no matter how tempting they are

Even if she does less damage than alto I'm still gon pull for her because shes the ultimate waifu the boss of all waifus

As f2p kinda regret pull Jinshi more than S1 tbh.. I kinda lucky to get S3 with 16k astrite but I did regret cause you only need mortefi yuanwu for faster stack. I want changli so bad ..😢

love it how they design Jihnsi as a dragon and Changli as a Phoenix

Lost 50/50 to encore and just gonna wait for all the free pulls then decide if I’m going to get jinhsi and her weapon or just idk after that lol

I really wish there was a way to select a 5 star on the standard banner like how it is in PGR because I really need Encore. Lacking her is the main thing making me not feel 100% about pulling Changli.

did KURO confirmed camellya banner? i might pull jinshi then. and skip changli if camellya banner after changli

if camellya is fusion dps that will make changli extremely relevant, its too early but for now am gonna save and see what character comes after changli and depending on that i will see who to pull

I really hope camellya doesn’t come out next update bc I wanna pull for both changli too

We'll definitely get some Black Shores characters next, I really want a 5* Gunner though and Camellya looks like Rectifier to me

I think Camellya will be next seeing how 1.1 suggests 1.2 could be with the black shores. And I'm all in.

just got 2 jinshi and 1 calcharo in 50 pull, this game drop rate realy dam high 😎

I'm just pulling and if i get them then i get them, if not then the next character is who I'll get

Getting s2 changli and rocking a crt dmg 4 points and her weapon. Iiinsane

pre-released ppl said shes a sub dps and jinhsi is a main dps, but the way i see their kit now, its the opposite. Still love em both anyway.

The boss despawned on me at ~25% HP and counted the quest stage as completed. Absolutely malding.

Saving for geshu lin

WuWa characters make Genshin characters look like low poly

I got Yinlin S6 so I feel like Jinhsi is auto get at least s0. And of course I lose my 50/50 to Calcharo. 🤪 Ended up wanting to S2 her so lost another 50/50 to Calcharo. -_- Better than a 3rd Encore but still… saving my choice banners until after these next 2 beauties. Too pretty to skip. I might skip Changli with that 50/50 losses and only pull her weapon. It's cute to see it sheathed in white and then red when swung. The weapon doesn't seem to show off on her unless you're swinging in air. Is it just me or does it look like she's pimp slapping enemies when on ground weapon not showing except for a split second.

still saving for waifu camellya since day 1 cuz im f2p, around 31,7k asterite, 57 RT, 10 FT

My prediction Camelya will be Havoc and her weapon is a Rectifier from the storyline she used vines no sword at all so i guess it will be like Verina vines. She can't be a Fusion because we already got Changli and i think Electro will be the guy on the story on Jiyan's hallucination and as always a white haired dude.

Waiting for cam so my havoc rover becomes more OP

I will get all *trust*

Changli's outro only lasting for 10s is something I hope they change.

Is camellya confirmed next?

Saving because I have a 5-star sword she can use and I don't have a 5-star broadblade. Also, I still haven't finished building the characters I have, so Jinhsi would just be sitting.

isn't it 4% x 14 stacks= 56% skill dmg bonus? (On changli weapon)

i lost 50/50 on jinhsi and now im torn to try again for jinhsi or jst settle for a guarantee on Changli..

Saving for her hoping that shes will come early so i can get herweapon

Is she a dps or sub dps?

"Save For Who?!" Gotta get them ALL! 🤩

Tim too down bad to do math 😭

I got a leak on 1.2 it's xiangli yao and zhezhi

because they want you to spend more, they will release a fusion character damage dealer and changli will buff that character in the future

The thing is the Waifus are the meta😅

Guys I got jinhsi with 30 pulls and I wanted to go for changli also but camellya is my favorite looking forward, am I able to get jinshis weapon and then save the rest to get camellya? (skipping changli of course)

Has no one noticed that the accession material for camellia is out. "Black lotus" for anyone saying she isnt after changli. The game is literally telling you shes after changli lol.

I think Changli will not do the same amounts of dmg as Jinhsi on S0! I can be wrong 😅 but we will find out soon