I will NEVER forget watching them collapse to the rockets by Josh Smith and Cory Brewer in that one game and then tuning into game 7 and seeing Blake griffins disappointed face looking up at the score with seconds left 😭😂
I remember those really good series with Spurs, Houston and Warriors and if they just beat the Rockets that year, they had a good chance of winning it all. But it went downhill with the injuries and also they got stuck. Everybody else was getting better with more talents and just improvement, but Clippers were still playing that old game, I felt they had the pieces, had the weapons but the offense didn't change or got better, there was no ball movement, it was slow, and they couldn't add more talents but just had to do with what they had while other got more talents.
Dewayne Cooper What? There were plenty of issues with that Clippers squad but let’s not act like injuries didn’t cripple that group multiple times. A super talented team who had playoff runs derailed by injuries is practically the definition of a “what if” scenario..
@@AA-vb2pq they was fully healthy too many times for it to be a what if they had like 5years together they was just chokers lol no excuses for them & im actually a fan of all them tbh
Dewayne Cooper I’m not saying injuries were the *only* thing holding them back, but you can’t act like injuries didn’t massively impact their success, in multiple years. And by virtue of that, they become a “what if”
@@AA-vb2pq they didn't & they cant be a what if if we seen the if like we seen them all together fully healthy & they aint do shit a what if is like if D rose never got hurt or if Lebron never left the cavs those are what ifs
Just like matt barnes said and jj pretty much confirmed it here. The clippers didn't have the off the court chemistry. They didn't fuck with each other too well off the court.
Passive aggressiveness was a huge downfall but they coulda fixed that shit easily. Saying the Houston series killed them says a lot about their weak character as a whole because a guy like MJ, Kobe, or Kawhi (some people who are/ were mentally tough) woulda used that series as motivation not as a giving up point.
I find it hard to even think the clippers who during that time were my favorite team annoying. But every preseason of you tube video predictions or NBA 2k were always the clippers winning. The Rockets series and the Thunder series are the ones that really still hurt. Both years we should have won the title.
For real, I really thought Josh Smith was the shit when I first started watching NBA games. He was supposed to be the next big thing when he came into the league and then he gradually faded away as his freakish athleticism left and he wasn’t a consistent shooter. I still add him when I’m playing MyLeague on 2K though lol
But damn Corey Brewer, that’s another guy that just faded away. Ain’t heard that name in a few years, dude went the fuck off with 50 points when he was with the Timberwolves
@@dennisjr77 true but Chris oozes passive aggressive and petty lol I think Blake might be one of those dudes that tries to make jokes that are passive aggressive
@@dennisjr77 exactly same here. He just seems like a passive aggressive big kid. He could be completely different in the locker room though. Just based off of what we see and hear though, he definitely doesn't seem like a good teammate.
The Sixers lineup is trash outside of Embiid and Simmons. We have no bench. We had a shot until the NBA forced out Hinkie. Since then it has been a rudderless ship. You can’t even pretend that this team is supposed to contend
he missed every free throw he was useless at the end of the game. he was only good cause every center is good with cp3. Honestly he is largely responsible for their playoff failures along with Jamal Crawford, Redick, and CP/Blake's health.
David Chimezie yeah 2015 was their chance and they blew it. I felt like that really was a highly anticipated wcf cause the year before they had a great 7 game series and had some good reg season games too and it felt like we were supposed to see them play each other but yeah they blew it
@@MyUniqueHandle. nah they were still able to beat the Rockets without chris paul in game 1. It's just that they were up by 20 in game 6 on their home court and blew it
They were too busy being a knock off version of “Showtime Lakers” than being their own team. If they were more like the “miracle Mets” than they would of had at least one chip. But it looks like they have a chance now since they learned how to win a title than pretending to think they are the Lakers
They should a 30 for 30 for the lob city era that would be dope asf not gonna lie. I really enjoyed the Shaq and penny 30 for 30 that was a good one. But the clippers had locker room issues nothing new.
Ro Han it’s bullshit bro people believe anything these days. Clearly there was a division when you have 3 stars like the ones in the clippers. That team never could get over the hump there were built in the wrong era.
Ro Han you can’t say “teammates were being passive aggressive” but then say it was only on the court issues. CP and Blake probably threw a bunch of sneak disses at each other, whereas JJ would’ve preferred them to be more upfront. That kinda shit happens at EVERY job across America that involves you needing to work with others efficiently
Interesting and candid assessment of my beloved Clippers. That playoff loss to Houston when we were up 3-1 is still beyond painful to think about. Yes, we likely would've lost to the Warriors, but it would've been great to prove that out in the Conference Finals.
Early to mid 2010s the league was going toward 3 point shooting and stretch 4s while the Clippers doubled down on two non shooting players in Blake and Deandre. CP3 passive agressiveness came from not having his stars able to shoot.
Wish they would’ve talked more about the Houston series. Being a Lob City Clippers fan at the time that was the most upsetting and devastating feeling ever to be up 3-1 and to lose to a team they had no business losing to. I feel that was the only year we really had a chance to win a championship especially after the momentum we got after beating the reigning champions in the Big 3+ Kawhi Spurs team in the first round. We beat the Warriors in 7 games the year before but who knows what that Western conference finals would’ve been like had they faced each other. It was almost a given that whoever came out of the West was going to win the championship that year granted that Kyrie gets hurt that first game of the finals and Kevin Love was already out for the season.
I remember sitting on the floor watching the game 5 collapse. Unbelievably disappointing especially when we missed cp3 the first two games of the series. Blake was on another level and shouldve still beaten the rockets despite that loss but I remember just knowing that we wouldnt win the series that was the epitome of that team. We wouldnt get up after being knocked down
@@Clipperdude123 I vividly remember starting to celebrate after the 3rd quarter and was ready for the WCF. I packed a hookah bowl and smoked it in my room as like a celebratory cigar but man oh man did that turn out to suck dick. That day was terrible but also as a Packers fan it's no worse than the 2014 NFC Championship Game when we were up 16-0 to Seattle.
Cp wouldnt let blake handle the ball and blake didnt want to be a true pick and roll 4 he was more than that so that lead to them always bickering on the court. Imagine if blake could play the way he plays now when he was younger and more healthy it would have been scary
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I find it annoying how he said “Blake is our friend so don’t say anything bad about him” when he asks JJ to explain everything that went down with that clippers team.
Charles Cooks so what dude, they still beat you 3 other times. Plus I remember the series before against the warriors and the refs were on your side the entire series. GS got robbed that series
JJ Reddick is the only white guy that Doc ever liked which sucked because JJ should have come off the bench. He was his best in the first quarter and then would get run down by the 4th. If he comes off the bench and finishes the game we would have had a chance.
lol, Griffin and Paul kept getting hurt. That's the real answer. Paul missed 85 games in his Clippers career.... Griffin missed 55. FACTS. So again, you can't win when your two best players are always hurt. You just can't.
I mean, they just weren't very deep either. They had healthy seasons, where they all played in the playoffs, but they just weren't as good as San Antonio, OKC, or Golden State.
They couldn’t find a wing, they tried everybody I mean everybody. Just couldn’t find a good stable wing that can keep up against the Lebron, kawhi, Durant etc
Rich Charles they tried a bunch of scrubs. jeff green wesley johnson hedo turkoglu paul pierce past his prime. should’ve made an actual play instead of the cheap stuff
skeet shooter they tried. Kd wanted to go their as history backup if gsw didn’t work. Melo had a few chances to jump ship and chose NY. PG was also in play as well. There were in pursuit of guys, but no one wanted to be there.
Clippers were maxing out two bigs while the NBA was going small ball... also Rivers is shit coach, needs 3 hall farmers and a rookie Rondo to win a championship.
@Junior71392 phill had 2 hall of famers and won 3 titles with Lakers, idk about Bulls probably had 11 hall of famers. Rivers had 3 only 1 title and Rondo was their pg??? Oh but I forgot after Perkins went down they had nothing 🤣🤣
Just goes to show how amazing teams like the Warriors or Patriots in football are. They've both suffered horrible losses and collapses and have won it all the very next season. Those champions don't fold because of a painful loss
@@Banned4Life they still won a championship, they don't control who is out on the opposition just like the Cavs don't control who was out when they beat GSW and win's a win man.
Jarrell Sims Blake ain’t draymond on the defensive side. That would be like the suns lineup but even worse offensively with the same defense if not worse
Every time they had their best seasons theyd get an Injury in the playoffs. Couple times it was Griffen missing playoff games or playing hurt. One year was CP3 missing games vs Houston. And Jamal Crawford always struggled in the playoffs shooting under 40% from the field. I love Crawford but they needed to upgrade that 3rd scorer spot.
If there was Passive/Aggressive behavior permeating the team, then that problem lies solely on the coach. It's not on the players to get individual teammates to perform. Personally, I put all the blame on Blake Griffin. He's a loser.
They had no wing scorer throughout their years in lob city. If they had a wing scorer who could create they would’ve won. Someone like Paul George or Butler or even Hayward just someone who could get 18-5-5 at the SF position
YES THANK YOU. I am a die hard Clipper fan. They were always missing a go-to SF. The time they were playing was SF driven. They had no one that can create for themselves, always picking up guys past their prime.
Rhira001 as a raptors fan I feel like we were the clippers of the east, a great team every year but falling short. It wasn’t till we got a great wing. Also we always had vets as our bench but then when we drafted well all our young guys Norman Powell Fred van vleet og anunoby made the bench even better
Rhira001 I still take clippers over lakers in west. Kawhi is another machine in playoffs. I noticed it when he was on the raptors. He gives about 60% during regular season/at least compared to playoffs. When he wanted to, during our 19’ chip run, he would just get on the court and you would feel the game change. Like all the confidence shifted to our side and our team just took over
Cp3 was too small to be the best player on a championship team but he definitely tried his best, jj and crawford can't defend, the sf was a revolving door of guys past their prime, Blake had no post moves and dj couldn't make free throws.
Doc talking about pointing fingers... cut to pick of him pointing fingers. I think the players won't say it, maybe they don't know it, but Doc has a history of not taking ownership and that is probably why it all fell apart. Leadership starts at the top.
They choked a 3-1 lead to Houston in 2015 thats what happened. I remember specifically game 6 AT HOME they were up 20 at half time. They choked that game away. Thats when I gave up on cp3 and Blake. I knew they would retire ringless. And no ring in sight 5 years later
Damn JJ I had so much respect for u until u shit talked Trump like that whether u like him or not I think pro sports players need to keep their opinions to themselves about him because at the end of the day he is our president and players need to respect that
Bruh Moment Awesome, so there was the “shithole countries” remark. See, not only want that heinous but the stupid fuck blew up the negotiations for his ridiculous wall with it. Yeah kids, he may have gotten somewhere before he opened his mouth with that one. Oh, and how well did his candidates do in 2018? Oh yeah, they got their asses kicked after he mistakenly misread suburban voters. How about McCain’s death, yeah, looked like a moth breathing imbecile there didn’t he? Ahh..and then there was his awful handling Khashoggi’s murder. Are these enough, because that doesn’t even cover the biggest fuckups of 2018? The troop withdrawals in Afghanistan and Syria...
passive aggressiveness means that there was no leader. If there was a leader, he would have called that out. That's why MJ even though was mean, there was no whispering behind each other back on the team it was in your face. Different generation...
The funny thing about JJ is his playoff record stays intact and will be forgiven if this Corona Virus ultimately kills the rest of the NBA season (which looks more and more like a definite reality with each passing day).
@@jpmnky I strongly agree with you bro. This Corona shit is on some historic movie type level. The Olympics and all the rest of sports this year is a definite wrap in my eyes.
The collapse happened because of not just egos, but health. Every time the playoffs came around, I could always count on Blake or CP3 not being involved for long. Also, as Blake started expanding his game, the ball stop moving. Pair that up with CP3, whose very ball dominate, and they could neutralize one, while forcing the other to do too much, disrupting offensive flow. Egos and all, they were like the Phoenix Suns with Shawn Marion, Nash, and Stat...All highlights, good 5 year run bringing in a new wave of entertainment only to allow strong system oriented teams that were consistent to beat them.
As a fan that followed that Clipper team, I was disappointed that Chris Paul didn't use better leadership skills as the point guard to bring that team together. It seemed like he was always bickering at Blake. 👎
Max 117 well CP3 wasn’t exactly passive aggressive with Harden. Whoever JJ is describing really doesn’t sound like Paul bc he does blow up occasionally, that’s why he’s the most widely respected guy in the league and president of the NBAPA. Blake seems to come off as a much more passive personality
Meanwhile the All Star less 2019 clippers with Lou williams as the best player gave the KD warriors a harder time than the 13-17 clippers ever did. Mental toughness is an underrated skill in basketball!!! 😭
Really missed out on one more competitive Clippers Warriors series before GSW just ran away from the Clippers and never looked back. Honestly those two teams looked like the next big rivalry
Had the Clippers defeated the Rockets in that 2015 series (still hurts until this day), Clippers could really challenge Warriors that year. I know Dubs were good but Clippers was the only Western Conference team that year that has a better chance betting the Warriors. It would have been crazy WCF because of their rivalry.
Brian Ng it’s another reason why kds move fucked the league. Those pre kd clippers and warriors games were great, intense, entertaining. So many great west playoff series and rivalries that I was looking forward to in 2016 before he went to gs. Clippers and GS, Thunder and GS, Thunder and Clippers, you already know rockets were still trying to compete every year and they were a 3 seed in 2017 so that probably would’ve stayed the same regardless of kd leaving, and then the spurs and even blazers. Rockets vs spurs, rockets vs blazers, blazers vs spurs, blazers vs thunder etc... that’s what we could’ve seen in 2017 in the west but instead we got a boring, meaningless, dull western conference playoffs. Call me crazy but had kd not joined Gs I think 2017 would’ve been the best western playoffs ever
@@macvincemosquera9616yes they definitely could have beaten the warriors. The warriors dominated the 15 regular season but slowed down a lot in the playoffs. They looked unconvincing in the memphis, Houston and cavs series even though they won
ISO Joe put that nail in the coffin in 2017 playoffs, they couldn’t guard him. My guy was 35 coming off the bench past his prime and the clips couldn’t handle him.
Jazz had low key good wings that year with Hayward, Ingles and Joe Johnson which was a weakness of the clippers. Joe went well at PF in that series. Jazz Got beat by the warriors in the end.
They were championship contenders for 6 years straight but couldn’t even make it to the WCF. CP3 choked in Game 5 vs OKC in 2014. They were up 7 with a minute left and OKC went on a 8-0 run to win the game due to CP3’s bad plays down the stretch. 2015 they blew a 3-1 lead. 2016 lose to the underdog Blazers. And they had everything. A big 3, good coaching, a bench, shooters like JJ and Jamal Crawford. Disappointing
They did NOT have any big 3s. DJ was a very good, player but not so much of a star that we are gonna give him that much praise. He never was anything special when it mattered and often was a liability due to his horrid ft shooting. He only ever even made the allstar team once. And that was the year where Blake got hurt damn near the entire year and he was being spoon fed lobs every play. The bench started good, and then became atrocious as time went on. Jj and Jamaal were good in stretches. But very inconsistent in the post season. Plus their defense was a liability at times. Which always left cp3 as the only reliable defensive player. Cp3 was amazing but at times he didn’t know when to take over and when to kick back and be the playmaker.. he lacked that sense of aggressiveness when Blake was one the floor because he expected Blake to be the man. But Blake just never developed into that.. he could never stay on the floor long enough to even reach that next level.. They relied on cp3 WAY too much in the regular seasons which would lead to him being prone to injury late in the season or in the postseason. Dude had to be their best scorer whenever Blake was hurt ( which was more Times than not), their best passer, their best defender, and be the clutch guy all by himself for atleast 4 years. They were always missing that last piece at the SF and they traded Bledsoe,. So they never had a good back up pg. Also doc couldn’t cut it as a gm, and got out coached nearly every time.
When Doc signed his son. JJ has thought this through and I agree talking behind each other’s backs is worse than dealing with it and having a blow up. “Donald Trump pettiness.” Perfect!:)
Michael Edwards That’s one of the most dumbass reply I’ve ever received on YT. Congratulations on joining the ranks of the ignorant...what’s your name? Oh, you call yourself EatMyAss Edwards. Get a fucking life.
I don't understand the fact that the clippers never got a small forward to play next to Blake Griffen. It was almost like Blake and Jordan were enough. I mean like what the hell? Blake never had a small forward to pair himself up with. Except for a really old Paul Pierce, there was no one else. Like even now? Detroit get this man a partner in crime to pair up with. Whenever, I hear Blake Griffen I think of a center tandem not a forward tandem.
I would’ve thought last year would’ve removed some of the doubt about Doc’s coaching abilities, no? He took a team that was supposed to be rebuilding and predicted to be comfortably in the lottery, who then, mid-season traded their best player (Tobias Harris) and were then told they had no chance to make the playoffs, and coached them to a comfortable playoff berth with 48 wins without a single all-star and then led them to take 2 games from the warriors (becoming the first team not named the Rockets to take more than 1 game from the warriors in the playoffs since Durant and the thunder in 16). I don’t know how you can look at that and say he’s a bad coach, or overrated.
