JJRC Q117 INSANE 3s conversion... my first HEX FLIP!😲 

Thanks mate hope this years a great one for all of us here!!!

@@Mick_Au 💯% mate! Its been a mad few years, the world 🌎 needs a recovery year I think😊

@@rccrazy Yes well said 👍🏻

yes sirr

Im running a 120a as it’s all I could find with the dumbo remote and upgraded springs the things a monster, a little twitchy great video.

Nice😁 They are so worth it in my opinion even stock but yes with a good little 45-50a esc and a dumborc radio system they are insanely fun🤪 Good luck with the build mate!

@@rccrazyMan this little cheap bashers are soooo worth it, i bought the gantry pro version and that thing is fast and tough as hell and im definitely doing this conversion since i fried the ESC cuz i put a 3s lipo on it just being curious lol.

100% mate! I love the JJRC platform for the price👌 And just curious, was your stock esc held down by 3 screw tabs? Mine do not have tabs but instead held down with double side tape. It seems the only ones that can run 3s are the ones without the tabs and no one is really sure why🤷

@@rccrazy Yes mine goes with 3 screws tabs, i didn’t know that tho it’s definitely weird 🤔 Oh and how did you fit the stock motor plugs with the new ESC? Are the same width and length? Because the ESC plugs look a little bigger

Solder new plugs onto the motor or esc. You can also get adapters, you'll need to know the plug sizes though.

Nice😁 Hope you have as much fun as I do with these awesome cars🤘

Oh I hope you get yours soon🤞 They are wicked little cars, so glad they used metal parts for it! Thanks mate👍

Thanks Dome😁👍

Thanks bud😅 Yeah the shocks made a massive difference👌 They are a little long though, the car can't bottom out if it needs to, lots of stress on the shocks.

Not sure what persuaded mean, I'm thinking it's similar to convincing😅 but yeah a good little 45-50a esc and a decent radio these do even better than stock😁

I try and reply to everyone if possible, as long as your polite and friendly I will give you all the time in the world🙂

Awesome! Fast and exciting, sounds enjoyable to me😅👌 Hope you and your family have a great Christmas🎄🙂

He will. I am and my wife said she had 3 kids, guess im one of tham. 😂😂

Sorry I don't understand🤔

@@rccrazy i was trying to say that even if i have 38, i still like RC cars. And this one is awsome.😀

@Alennovak666 oh I get you, your the 3rd kid, yes I'm with you there😅 And yes this particular car is AWESOME especially for a low price!

Absolutely insane for 1/16 definitely😆 Got the buggy version to look at soon aswell, definitely worth the cost I'd say👌 Thanks for checking it out👍

Thanks heaps Tim! Yes I had to watch it multiple times to get the correct number of flips. It really surprised me aswell😅 Have a GREAT 2023 mate😊

Nice mate, they are very fun cars👌 Yes there are quite a few very good for the price budget cars these days and hopefully they are only going to get better and cheaper😅 Thanks for watching mate.

Nice😃 I think you will thoroughly enjoy the brushless version after driving the brushed one. And modding is always fun😁 Thanks buddy👍

@@rccrazy Pulled out my brushed version today and it's only 3WD Looks like I might have done what uou did, lost an axle pin ? How did you fix that. I have no real rc tools or spares yet. Is there an easy fix ?

If it is the wheel pin the easiest way to fix it is buy new ones, don't think they would cost much. I have multiple still in the box spare cars to pull parts off as I love these so much😅 But I highly recommend checking everything including the diffs, the brushed ones have plastic gears and do strip easily, that can cause loss of drive to 1 or more wheels.

@@rccrazy I wonder where I could get them ? Do Temu or Ali Express have them. There are no rc shops within about 200km of here and I rarely get to a real town or city, so I'm limited to online ordering. Things take weeks to arrive here too, West Coast, South Island New Zealand. I might not be driving again till my Q117 arrives in a couple of weeks.

Oh, and I did see the wheel pin was missing, but I'll check it all out in case. I've never taken anything like this apart, and at 65 my eyesight is pretty shot so have trouble seeing small stuff, but I saw that pin was missing :)

Yes it makes it much easier to keep the cars lined up on the road👌 Thanks

Thanks mate! But 900 dollar? What currency is that? As they are about 100 Australian dollars here.

Awesome😁 But just keep in mind if your 2in1 board is the version with 3 mounting tabs it will most likely fail on 3s. Only the tab less ones work on 3s.

I didn't really expect this sort of performance to be honest but I love it😆 New ramp has been built🤘 And yes have good year man👊

The shafts do bind a bit if you use the longer 70mm rear wltoys shocks, I use the front shock all round on this car, they are 65mm and that seems to be about maximum shock length with no shaft binding👌

Yeah it's the quickest way to get a bit more out of the car👌 Only thing I would really suggest if you haven't already is add good oil shocks, can make a huge difference.

Isso, já encomendei todas as peças de metal e os amortecedores também 🤜🤛

For some reason I can not find any stock wheel nuts or pins on the spare part listing's🤔 You can just use standard 1/10 nuts and pins though. And shocks, these should work well. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005311280822.html?src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=19821179470&albag=&trgt=&crea=en1005005311280822&netw=x&device=m&albpg=&albpd=en1005005311280822&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAloavBhBOEiwAbtAJOy3bT07ibsC8Of5yE9j0mt0ZRHcTkiRiMN5W9wbIqFisTYvd5gwTehoC39IQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=043b3e493c98445bbb270d358f3b4f21-1709345796223-01812-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=043b3e493c98445bbb270d358f3b4f21-1709345796223-01812-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=efe87644804240ecb8bbcce7e262df0c&afSmartRedirect=y

Cool man👍 With the brushed versions I would just recommend keeping an eye on the diff cups and driveshafts, I found the plastic components to be quite soft even on the 2s 2in1 combo, maybe why they limited the 2in1 to 2s🤔

@@rccrazy I thought it had metal diffs and shafts?

Not the brushed versions mate.

@@rccrazy That sucks!! the description says metal center shaft,spur gear and drive shafts

Yes the brushed one's have a steel centre shaft and possibly spur but my 2 brushed versions both came with plastic diffs and wheel shafts. They could've upgraded the brushed versions, im not sure. Sorry mate!

I highly recommend getting a set of wltoys 124019 FRONT shocks for both front and rear. OR a full set of MJX Hyper Go shocks as they are a little shorter than the wltoys front shocks and fit this car almost perfectly👌 If you google MJX Hyper Go shocks you should find heaps available from many places.

Yes they are. But what you mean I'll burn out the 2s esc? In this video I was running a 3s esc😅

​@@rccrazycan I buy a 45a esc that it says only for 1/10 scale RC, does it fits on the q117? I'm buying it on AliExpress

I'm not sure what brand you got but I am using a Hobbywing 50a esc in mine and it fits in the same spot as the stock esc so I would think a 45a would fit also.

Only link I can find for these lipos, not available many places anymore. www.amazon.com/Zeee-Premium-Quadcopter-Helicopter-Airplane/dp/B08H5GD35D

The 850mah are perfect size so basically all 1500mah 3s lipos would be too big for the actual battery bay. Some people want long run time so they strap a bigger lipo on the top centre brace. Personally I much rather sacrifice a little run time for a lighter car, not prevention but a little less chance of damage. But also, by raising the lipo which is a heavy component you raise the centre of gravity, top heavy means more chance of rolling in turns. Apologies if you already knew all this😁

I keep buying them when they are on sale, so affordable for what you get😅

@rccrazy amazon had had some lightning deals last few weeks. And then I actually ordered a few things and one of them off of Aliexpress and got them on time and everything was in tact so I'm always on there now

I sadly have had the complete opposite experience with Amazon, Aliexpress and Banggood so I buy locally, it's a bit more price but I don't mind.

Well as I said in my other reply if your 2in1 board has no tabs you can run the stock system on 3s. But in this video I was using a proper stand alone 45a esc and dumborc radio system. Any 45a or 50a esc will work.

Definitely worth the money these cars👌 I didn't order shocks but yes the rear shocks are wltoys and I think the fronts are from MJX. If you can get a full set off MJX hyper go shocks they fit much better, wltoys shocks are too long and bind up and sometimes bend the driveshafts

No these 2in1 combos can not bind to a different controller, you have to have the correct receiver for whatever controller you want to use. Therefore you MUST change the esc and receiver because you cannot separate the stock 2in1 combo.

Thank you. The only things I changed was the esc but this one is discontinued, you can use basically any 40a to 60a esc on the market as long as they fit under the shell. The shocks(wltoys shocks) available everywhere. And the radio system(Dumborc X6FG radio) available everywhere.

@@rccrazy thank you very much appreciate that

or not

I don't understand, fish?🤔 I ONLY changed the esc and receiver in the car. And why you keep calling me uncle? Please don't, I don't like it! My name is Saul

Yes definitely can add a fan but honestly the stock motor is very capable and didn't need a fan😃

@@rccrazy Thanks man appreciate it!! Keep up with great videos 👏🏻

Your welcome, and thank you😁

Thanks mate glad your enjoying some of my content🙂 Yes I am running diff oil on the internal gears, 30k rear 50k front. I didn't notice if my 3 rigs had o-rings but I wouldn't imagine so, no oil coming out yet so seems fine to me. You can use grease but the problem with it is it doesn't run like oil so once the centrifugal force have pushed all the grease to the diff walls there are voids around the gears no longer lubricating them.

@@rccrazy Amazing! Thanks for the quick reply and I'm going to take your advice and swap out the grease for some 30 and 50k oil to see how it feels on that setup! Hopefully the oil will help preserve my diff gear teeth too! Keep the awesome content coming!

You are very welcome and great to hear your going to try my preferred set-up, it may not be exactly what you need but its a good place to start with diff experimenting😊 Make sure to keep putting grease on the diff crown and pinion gears though, I rarely have issues with the internal diff gears it's always the crown and pinions🤦

Thanks mate👍 If you mean what should you use in the differentials then I think marine grease is fine to use but I personally only use it for the diff crown and pinion gears, I only use proper diff oil inside the diffs. This car I would probably use 30,000w diff oil front and rear. But diff oil or grease will not make your car faster it will just change the handling characteristics depending on the thickness of the oil you use. You want to go faster you need a larger motor pinion gear or higher volts, 3s lipo.

@@rccrazy Thank you mate👍 Could you tell me for a faster battery in addition to the 3s ratio of pinion and crown number? To put on this engine? Thanks

I believe if you turn the motor mount around 180° it allows you to install a 20t pinion gear without any modification. If i remember correctly the motor gear is mod0.6 so try google (20t mod0.6 pinion gear 3.175mm) You should get some results👍 Diff ratio is a little different and I have not looked into that for ANY cars

@@rccrazy Obrigado

What you need a esc for? These run on 3s stock standard no problem as long as you don't change to a higher kv motor (4000kv max with the stock 2in1 board) or use a bigger pinion gear.

@@rccrazy sounds good then I’m just going to buy a 4 pack of 3s zeee and upgrade the suspension and tires thanks again!!

No problem👍 At least you'll have upgraded lipos already if you ever do decided to swap the electronics😁

Most lipos are very similar so most 850mah 3s or upto 1500mah 2s should fit, I don't get long runtime on any car but for most people probably around 15 minutes. And I use wltoys oil shocks on mine, work fine.

@@rccrazy What is the average driving time with 850mah?

Like I said personally I get around 15 minutes, if you drive a little calmer or slower in general you'll get maybe 20 minutes.

They can definitely run 3s stock and yes I got I think 81kph on 3s but with different wheels. This is the video I believe👇 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hnrCg5WIuJw.html

@@rccrazy crazy stuff Mine is coming tomorrow, can't wait!

DumboRC controller and receiver as mentioned in the video

Sorry to hear the stock esc burnt on 3s😕 Yes you will need a receiver and transmitter to run a separate/stand alone esc.

me paso igual ahora no se que hacer por que el ecu es 2 en 1 y hay que cambiar de control creo

​@user-ep5og4ct9p you can replace the 2in1 with another of the same 35a jjrc ones and continue using your old controller👌

I have been using the original MJX HyperGo wheels on it for some time now and they are great👌 www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005713639259.html?src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&gclsrc=aw.ds&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&gclsrc=aw.ds&albagn=888888&ds_e_adid=&ds_e_matchtype=&ds_e_device=m&ds_e_network=x&ds_e_product_group_id=&ds_e_product_id=en1005005713639259&ds_e_product_merchant_id=109331062&ds_e_product_country=AU&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=19821179470&albag=&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwm_SzBhAsEiwAXE2Cv_Xa765B1tr8HDnMATcnpJMHjsIDJ0MBgCYu3hgpsHhKD8p3KK_wvhoCAZgQAvD_BwE&aff_fcid=c7baed539ba04457897d099c32fb80f9-1719541847846-00243-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=c7baed539ba04457897d099c32fb80f9-1719541847846-00243-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=efe87644804240ecb8bbcce7e262df0c&afSmartRedirect=n

i want to know as well, i’m not going to bash it buying for speed only with 3s

Yes the zeee 3s 850mah lipos fit perfectly

Hey Albert👋 So basically if you get a higher C rated 2s you should gain a bit of speed but mostly punch, at the same time increasing the capacity will give you a slight increase at the top end. So saying that however big you can fit in the tray and like 70C or higher will be best. I think 2200mah 3s is the largest I run in mine so you may find some 3000mah 2s that will fit. And fans, anything with a high rpm rating, I think I use 35mm 21000rpm fans, unbranded.

Thank you 🙏 i hella appreciate u. One more thing. I might of found a fan but what do i connect it to . Im confused about where im supposed to connect it to . Is there a specific type of connector ?

I don't believe so unless you use a voltage dropper then to the receiver. If I remember correctly this car lights are maximum 3v and a hobby grade receiver BEC is 5-6v.

Thank you Luis👍 The shocks came off one of my wltoys 144001 and the battery would've come from ebay Australia. I know these specific batterys are getting harder to find now but most 850mah 3s lipos should fit. Shocks are available everywhere I would imagine, try Aliexpress, they should have them.

@@rccrazy Thanks very much buddy!! For the information, I will look for the parts in AliExpress. greetings from Nayarit, Mexico

You are very welcome mate🙂

Not sure about water proof but people have used them in water. Most of the plastic parts are fine, plastic can flex preventing other parts failing, lighter and much cheaper if you need to replace. Best shock length would be 60mm front and maximum 70mm rear. Personally for this size car I would use 40-50w oil or 600-800cst.

@@rccrazy thank you for your help 🙏🙏

The water fried my radio control board. It worked for a while but it started to stop randomly. I would stay away from water when possible.

Great advice in my opinion, I don't like running my cars in water even if they claim 100% waterproof, you just never know what could happen when you mix water and electronics.

You also need a hobby grade controller and receiver. You can not use the stock controller with a proper esc.

So first thing, if you have a esc 2in1 board that is held down by 3 screws I highly recommend not running 3s at all as it will almost definitely fail. If it has no tabs but is held down with double side tape and zip tie then you can run any 3s that fits.👍

Could you please suggest what esc to upgrade too, what one are you using exactly, cheers!

I am now using a hobbywing 10bl50a 3s esc but to run a separate esc you must also use a hobby grade radio system, you can not use the original controller or 2in1 board with a separate esc like in this video.

@@rccrazy geez sounds like a bit of work, how would I program the new radio system to communicate with the original controller

It's no work it's literally remove the old electronics and install hobby grade electronics. But I did say you can NOT use the original controller with a new esc, you NEED a new controller and receiver also.

Yes I think 59mm is about right for this car, I normally just measure the stock shocks and see what I can find online.

Yeah ok great thanks. Is 30 euros a good price for them? I can’t really find shocks anywhere else.

30 euro is a little high but not over the top. If you can be bothered looking, the stock shocks from the MJX Hyper Go fit perfectly on this car and I couldn't see them being more than 20 euro from most places, Aliexpress should have them.

I see now that I have a coupon so it’s exactly 20 euros with the coupon. Thanks again for the info.

So sorry mate I did not get a notification for your question😬 If you haven't already you can just buy a new 2in1 board(esc and receiver box) that is the cheapest and easiest way to find out, no other way of really checking. Good luck and again I am so sorry🙏 Oh if you tried to run 3s and that's when it stop that would be because some do not like 3s and fail straight away and won't run on 2s after that.

@@rccrazy No worries mate, i ordered new ESC and it was working mine after that

Excellent! Really glad to hear that😃

Aliexpress have parts available, I just ordered a couple of parts for this truggy.

Thank you!🙂

Yeah man it's crazy, I was not expecting to gain over 20kph🤘 I would have to slot the motor mount but I have done it on these mounts before so yes could definitely gear up maybe 5-6teeth. And yeah all metal drivetrain and diffs👌

@@rccrazy yeah nice. And on another not. I sorta got a bit worried about one of the kids laying behind the ramp!.😮😮

Yeah that's kinda why I told him to stand back with me, I was definitely worried when he popped his head up😱

@@rccrazy 🫢🫢

This particular brand is JJRC or Su Chi Yu but yes there are many clones or copies of many RCs these days, companies can't design there own RCs so they use what already exists and just put there own name on it. Its kind of sad in my opinion😕

I only changed the ESC but I don't have a link, I can't find these ESCs anywhere. You don't really need to change it though as the car does run on 3s stock.

@@rccrazy Ok thanks...so can I put a 3s even with original esc 35A?

Yes you can, I just found it would cut of ever now and again, not alot so I'm guessing it was just getting a little over worked and needed a 10sec rest. I did upload another video after this one with the stock 2in1 board back in it and got like 90kph on 3s🤯😅 Awesome cars stock👌

I change it back to stock in the video after this and ran 3s and got 81kph I believe, been running 3s fine ever since. They are not rated to 3s but the escs without the 3 screw tabs do seem to do fine on 3s. The ones WITH the mounting tabs, no definitely not!

So sorry for the late reply. You can use any 3s that physically fits in the car/battery bay. A good brand recognition for these smaller lipos would be CNHL, great lipos!

Sure if you really want it to.

I think I used the rear, I would recommend using the front ones (short ones) the rears are a little too long for these cars.

45a is definitely enough for the stock motor no issue. The stock motor is a 2847 4000kv

i am new to rc world so, i have no knowledge about the rc batteries thats why i am asking.

I still use 3s yes but there are 2 different versions of the 2in1 boards in these cars, one can handle 3s the other does not like 3s. The ones with 3 screw tabs holding it to the chassis fail on 3s more often than not. If yours is held down by a zip tie and double side tape then you should be safe to run 3s. Most 3s lipos upto 850mah should fit, check the measurements to make sure it fits in the battery bay before purchasing👌

You mean a higher c rated 2s?

​@@rccrazyyeah

Not much difference from experience plus basically all except a few high quality lipo brands WAY over exaggerate the c rating. Apparently 70c is around the maximum our current technology can actually achieve so there is not really such things as a 100c lipo as many companies claim🤦

All depends on how you drive, I get between 10-15mins

Between 15-20 minutes depending on how you drive

Hi, They are standard 1/10 wheel nuts so they are M4.

Thank you very much👍 And very sorry I did not get a notification for your first comment. All I changed was the esc to a 45a 3s capable ESC. BUT! You don't need a new ESC, all you need is a 3s lipo that fits, I use 850mah 3s lipos, but the stock ESC or 2in1 board runs 3s not a problem and still does 90kph😁

@@rccrazy Thank you very much for your attention, please ask me a question, can I put a 3S battery with this 35A 2S ESC that came standard from the factory? And running normally in this car, won't it burn?

Yes it works fine on 3s, it won't burn on 3s.

@@rccrazy Another question please what battery are you using and how many volts? 11.1V? ZOP Power 11.1V 850mAh 100C 3S Lipo Battery

@@rccrazy Thank you very much, your channel is a class of TOP contents, Congratulations.

So no and no basically. Do not leave a lipo unsupervised while charging, don't go out or go to sleep when charging lipos! And no you can not leave them fully charged or discharged for more than a few days as it can permanently damage cells and can become dangerous. ALWAYS storage charge lipos if they are not going to be used for a while.

@@rccrazy wdym by "storage charge lipos"?

@rccrazy and yeah thanks, I'm soon getting lipos for my rc car and seen videos of them exploding l. Don't want that to happen to me. And one more, can when u say don't leave them fully charged and discharged, what can I do to keep it that way? Charge it for like an hour everyday?(sorry I'm new to this kind of stuff)

By the sound of it you do not have a proper balance charger just the usb one that comes with the model right? You need to get yourself a hobby grade lipo charger, they have storage mode which means it only charges the lipo to its SAFE storage voltage, that being 3.8v to 3.85v per cell. Storing them at low voltage is probably worse as they can drop below their safe minimum voltage and its hard to recover dying cells. The other way you could do it is charge the lipo drive your car for a while(10mins or so) then check the voltage with a lipo checker(cheap online) if each cell is close to or a little above 3.8v stop using it and you can store it. Every month or so check the cells and if they have dropped below 3.8v you will have to charge it and repeat that process until you get a good balance charger.

@@rccrazy Ok, thank you so much for your help! I'll make sure to take care of it!

As I said in one of the other messages, most 2s upto 1500mah should fit and the 3s I personally use are ZEEE 850mah 100c 3s lipos, they fit PERFECT! And you can 100% run the stock set-up on 3s

@rccrazy oh shit thats crazy i guess i might do just that so im assuming when u say 850mah u actually mean 850 and now 8500?? Cuz 8500 with 100c would definitely be bigger lol

@rccrazy also another? Is all 3s 11.1V..i kno the stock is 7.4 does that matter?

@proefficientsvision6325 yes 3s is 11.1v and 2s is 7.4v. That is the general rule if you want more speed you go more volts, as long as the system can handle it! Not all but some so called 2s 2in1 boards can run 3s because the manufacturers have under speced the capabilities because of safety reasons, it's always better to have backup power/current that you don't use to make sure nothing fails or gets overworked. Example A motor rated at 30a on 7.4v should always run with a 30a or higher esc on 7.4v to ensure the esc does not fail if it ever surpasses 30a. Bigger wheels, overgearing, over voltage can all cause these issues if your not aware of the system specs.

@proefficientsvision6325 yes 850mah is 850😅 Mah or milliamps is the capacity of the battery, how much time/current it can store. In general a 850 to1000mah 3s will be around about the same size as a 1500mah 2s.

If you mean 3s on the stock 35a esc 2in1 then yes it is possible but not without the chance of the esc blowing or failing. Quite a few people recently have said their cars failed on 3s.

@@rccrazy yes thats what i mean, i readed you comments thank you i subscribed

Thank you🙂 And good luck, hopefully your car is like mine and can run 3s stock🤞

Hey mate, not sure if your the same person I spoke to via email but I do not know why your esc is doing that, just worn out maybe, all you can really do is test a new esc and if that's not the issue it'll most likely be the controller.

​@@rccrazyyes thats me I was just hoping here is some method how to find out the culprit. Its not so easy just to buy ESC as in these toys there is only one stock 2in1 working. And if its not ESC than can be remote. The second option is to buy new better ESC but also receiver and new remote control which will cost more that the car itself so Im desperately finding informations and possible solution to go the cheapest way. I just cannot try and return back stock ESC in my country as return post fees are as much expensive as ESC itself 😊

@kultus26 the most likely culprit as I said is the 2in1 as it is both the receiver and esc on one motherboard. The cheapest and easiest way to find out if it's the 2in1 board is just buy a new one, it will work with the controller you already have. Remember they bind together every time when you turn on the car and controller so a new 2in1 has the same protocol/sync firmware as your original 2in1.

Yes I know that but thanks to remain me...the thing is to blindly buy $20 ESC and hope it will help. But if there is no way or method how to find out for sure maybe I will have to buy it.

If there is a method to find out for sure if a 2in1 combo is faulty then no I have never heard of it. But as I said in your video it looked to be working fine because it did break normally when you were close to what I think was a back or front door. If it's going to slow when you hit the break they will all go straight to reverse, that is 100% normal.

Thank you! Most 650-850mah 3s lipos should fit. I use ZEEE Premium 850mah 3s, they fit perfectly, I can't seem to find them anywhere now though🤔 Sorry about that.

​@rccrazy what amount of runtime do you get with the 850mah?

Between 10-15min

​@rccrazy just bought a couple off of Amazon. $30 for 2. But I'm in the US so not sure if it's different.

If you mean specifically the ZEEE 850mah 3s lipos then yes that seems about right, think I paid $40aud for a 2 pack a few year's back, still work good👌

For this size car normally 30w front shocks and 50w rear. Diffs, I go 50k front and 30k rear.

I have had a few people mention to me they are having signal or binding issues. Sadly it seems that the stock controller and 2in1 board do not have a bind/pairing button so no known fix as of yet. I suggest getting a new controller and receiver set(dumborc systems are good for the price)and a stand alone 3s esc around 35-40a as I have done I this video. You can then use that one control for other cars if you wanted or needed to, just need to buy more receivers and bind them to that controller👌

@@rccrazy DUMBORC X6 6CH 2.4G Transmitter RC Controller X6F Receiver for RC Car Boat Tank. Will this one work? Also what esc should i get that will make this thing fly lol?

@@rccrazy hey will this one work? I just order it i hope it do lol Spektrum Firma 40A Brushed Waterproof ESC 2-3S iC3 w/ Dynamite 35T Motor

You need a brushless esc as it is a brushless motor. That esc will not work

Yes that controller and receiver is the one I ment. And a good brand brushless esc is the only way you'll get a fast but also reliable car, Hobbywing or Castle escs are good, Surpass and GoolRC are not.

No I'm using the stock esc mount and I have zip tied the upgraded esc to it, I'm actually running a 50a esc on the stock mount now zipped aswell and it fits fine. Not sure how or why yours is different🤔

@rccrazy went back and watched your first video of the unboxing to see what was different. Yeah mine is a tad different. The esc actually screws right to the chassis on mine.

@kevb1050 oh wow really🤔 Might have to check my spare one, got it way after the original one so maybe they change the esc the newer production runs and that's why some people can't run 3s, some have been catching fire apparently😬 All 3 of mine ran 3s stock set-up with ZERO issues.

@rccrazy mine looks about the same but has 3 tabs with holes for screws to mount to chassis. Just gonna make a plastic template and screw it down then zip tie the esc to the plate. My box says Q117 but it has the Sweep body.

Yeah im not sure, my mount is screwed onto the chassis with 3 little tabs and the esc is double sided taped on, sure you didn't just miss the tape between the esc and mount?

Not with the stock 2in1 receiver/esc board, you have to have the matching dumborc receiver to pair to the controller and also a separate or stand alone esc.

@@rccrazy Thanks, bro ^^

@@rccrazy Hello sir! My car has arrived! So, if I change the ESC to use a Dumbo RC controller, can I plug the lights to work too? And can this motor handle 3s batteries after changing the ESC? I'm a beginner! Thanks ^^

So if I remember correctly the lights will work but you will need a adapter to go from the little plug on the lights or solder on a standard 3 wire plug so it can be installed onto the hobby grade receiver.

@@rccrazy Thank you very much sir 🤝🏻

Sorry mate had no internet fir a few days. I am using original wltoys 144001 shocks and springs

INHobby is the brand and no I can no longer find these anywhere, sorry. Stock system runs 3s no problem👌

As I said only the esc and controller system

Most brushless motors will run on any esc as long as it(the esc) is high enough amps. A esc is what provides the power, it pushes power into the motor, the motor doesn't pull power from the esc so it's always better to have a higher amp esc so it can always provide enough amps the motor needs to perform at its best. But this 45a esc on 3s will be fine for a long time but 60a will most likely give the car better punch and possibly a little more speed. PLEASE stay away from Surpass escs, they are ALL terrible. Get a good quality esc (Hobbywing or equivalent) and you will have a much more responsive and reliable car.

@@rccrazy thank you very much for your advise

It doesn't come with spare parts but spare parts are available online.

I can no longer get that esc not available anymore, but you can use any 45a or 50a 3s compatible esc. The only other thing I added to this car was the shocks from a wltoys 144001 but they are a little too long for this car. Measure your shocks then google THAT length plus "oil filled shocks" and you should find some that will fit.

@@rccrazy Thanks!!!

Your welcome, sorry I couldn't help more.

No it does not work like that, different brands use different protocols, the actual firmware or programming is different, not compatible with each other. You can only use the stock 2in1 board with that controller

@@rccrazy ok, thanks

​@rccrazy hey, I've got the exact same car and put a 3s in and it cooked the esc after a few minutes. I'm wanting to upgrade the esc to maybe a 45a that can handle 3s but is there any way of programming the existing remote to a new esc or would I have to get a new remote? If so what esc and remote combo would you recommend? I have zero knowledge on this stuff so any help would be great thanks

As stated in my above reply to Lypo663, you will need a new radio system(transmitter and receiver) to use a hobby grade esc. Radio system I always recommend the DumboRC X6FG radio system, cheapest for quality in my opinion. And esc PLEASE get a good quality one if you want quality control, Hobbywing is my GOTO brand for escs again for cost vs quality. I'm currently running the Hobbywing WP-10BL-50a esc in mine, you need to remove the esc mount and screw tabs to fit it in the correct spot, but it EASILY handles 3s with the stock motor and gearing👌

@@rccrazy great thanks for the info!

You will also need to download the SkyRC app www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006186039753.html?src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=19821179470&albag=&trgt=&crea=en1005006186039753&netw=x&device=m&albpg=&albpd=en1005006186039753&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA98WrBhAYEiwA2WvhOiRRl8uOcdXBzoTYIL3EHWfyGrtL60zlBoEIUie0GKmGGxuNVnzwPRoC3jsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=fe771116d1694ad88cd5f474f67da303-1702010303007-01410-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=fe771116d1694ad88cd5f474f67da303-1702010303007-01410-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=a47acc8ce4fb4ff6b7402d104288dd9c&afSmartRedirect=y

If you mean can it be replaced then yes👍

Sorry mate I have been looking for the link for the esc but I can't find it anywhere. Not sure what other parts you mean?

You need the SkyRC GSM020 gps module and the phone app

@@rccrazy thanks my guy

Part number for what?

@@rccrazy my local RC Store don’t have the part that I need to connect the dumbo transmitter because the one that the car comes with is a combo for the motor and remote I was wondering what’s the part number for the fan and the amp thing sorry I’m new to rc

Ok so I think you mean the receiver for the dumborc controllers, that will be here👇 www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005884631054.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21AUD%21AU%2417.33%21AU%245.75%21%21%21%21%21%402101c6e316933846691494629e76e3%2112000034701766269%21btf&_t=pvid:e730d042-7c86-492b-a31c-6ebf8bf0647f&spm=a2g0n.ppclist.product.0 The fan is a part of the amp thing, or the esc(electric speed control). That I can not get the link for as I can not find them anywhere, got it years ago. But most 40 to 50amp esc should fit in these cars, lots of room under the shell.

The c rating is only how much power can be pulled from the lipo at once, won't effect the esc just means the esc has plenty of power to pull from the lipo. The only reason you can't go a bigger esc is because they physically won't fit in these small cars.

@@rccrazy i was ordered a Hobbyfans 3650 3500KV motor and GOUPRC 60A esc and injora remote set with gyro and then kingmax 15kg servo this is a bad combo for 1:14 ? :D idk im too new If I made a mistake please reply me I still have the possibility to return them

@@rccrazy Also, I don't even know if a servo was necessary? I thought the servo would allow it to rotate without difficulty in the face of obstacles.

Oh mate I think you'll have to return it all🫤 These cars use 28mm motors like a 2840 or 2847 like stock, 36mm motors won't fit without modifying the mount, the other thing is 3500kv is slower than the stock 4000kv motor. GoolRC escs are bad quality but 60a will not fit anyway. And a 15kg servo would almost definitely be standard size meaning 1/10, they will not fit you need a mini servo, the stock servo should work fine or a good drop in servo is the JX 1181MG servo. The remote set you can use that's fine.

@@rccrazy My model is Q146, I think it's 1:14, but I canceled it because you said it wouldn't fit. Actually, I preferred the 3650 motor because the shaft and shaft length are the same with 2847 only different motor scale... i saw on aexpress Ysido 2847 4300KV and 45A esc combo is it worth to buy ? i wanna make min 70KMH :D I'm waiting to answer from you to buy, I'm open to better advice.