JL AUDIO W7 12 vs. ALPINE TYPE R 12 MAX SPL SHOWDOWN 

My thoughts exactly

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That’s what I was gonna say you have like another sub sitting outside of a sub comparing it to the type r This is a dumb video even try to compare such a good sub to get sub but we know which one is already better before this video

Orion HCCA CRUSHES both of these Heaps 🤭

Alpine has also high performance types! Of course this Jl audio sounds better but cost 15x more expensive...:).

Rockford fosgatet2 13 ❤

Magic Yeti can u explain that to me I don’t understand if u don’t mind

RE audio XXX subs are monsters if you can find one nowadays

@@Guerito4life I remember back in the day they were huge in competitions. By Type R just blew and Idk what to buy these days. 10 years ago was a different story..

For sure

W6 and R Type would be fair comparison

Iv owned a few different model alpines in the past and still have a set of em that I no longer use. But I had the alpine type E 12"s the white cone with the Black E in the middle and honestly they hit hard in a sealed box flexed the windshield we had em on a clarion 1200 watt mono block and they took it no issues for a good while then I sold em and ended up picking up the alpine type X 12s and holy shit was they loud lol I had them in a Virtual technologies vented box on two Skar 2500s and I ran em for about two years off and on. You can't go wrong with em even the entry level old type Es took power and slammed.

@@ChaseFanatic i currently have two ten inch fosgates hx2 from the year 2000. Mfkrs still banging hard!

@@jorgem50 I don't buy cheap Subs bro.JL W7 12's is beasty.I made hairtricks with 2 12's.

@@princetigerbeatz9316 good for you

Hola muchachos tengo una pregunta, esta bien que conecte una JL13W7 a un amplificador Kicker zx 1500.1? Gracias

Kyle Knight dont you mean with the w7? and alpine sucks ass i put my w7 500 watts vs my friends larger car with 600 watts to the alphine and mine hit deeper sounded louder and felt better w7 ftw

Kyle Knight I'm guessing you've never messed with real subs such as sundown, DC, FI, or Incriminator

what I said is for the price it is one of the best subs on the market.. sure sundown is a better sub but ur gonna pay a sh*t ton more for it..

Kyle Knight for 700 I would never buy a w7, they arent worth it, not to say it isnt a good sub, but jl is way too proud of themselves. The type r will push 1500 rms all day without rebuilding it, and for 140, its one of the best subs for the price. But the type r has one design flaw, both coils run out 1 side of the spider, making one side stiffer than the other, which means its prone to failure at max excursion, but as I have said, it takes a lot of power to get it to bottom out, so normally its good, you just cant really compete with them in the heavier stuff, where they would otherwise belong.

brandyn rhode they still cost too much for the class they belong to, I will stick to my dd 99s.

Yep very true 👌👌

My brother impressed me with his type r in velodyne sub box in his home theater system it go really low

If you've ever heard a 12w7 in an HO enclosure,it's stupid loud.There's no way you're beating that with one type r 12.Most people run their alpine subs in crappy prefab boxes,so 1 w7 in a proper box would prob walk all over most people's setups with 2 type Rs

Your absolutely right and next time I do one of these videos I will definitely do that 👍

FAST & LOUD !!! MICHAEL VICKERS isn't that what you said about this video. It's going to be a true spl comparison. And if you actually think that those hifonics amps are putting out a true 1700w you've lost your silly little mind! 🤣😂

Lol. Tru, VERY Tru. crappy vid

SPL numbers dont matter if your looking for sound quality which a type R cant compete with a W7

someone actually making sense here

JL!

Yea the JL subwoofer does look good

JL is high end audio equipment. Looks are subjective. Performance is what matters, and JL will out do Alpine 100%

@@Basshead304 Alpine is ugly and cheap design.

@@inkdreaper874 exactly 💯!!!

Decent yeah. A beast Not quite.

Why hate on jl. The w7 is a beast u can listen to it sll day with great sq an still beat the block down. Its not a spl sub u use for 2 runs at a contest

I have a 10 yr old 10w7 that I run with a jl 500/1 and its taken so much abuse over these 10 years and still sounds just as good as the day I bought it

Cause it's a POS wtf single 12 wants 6 cuft

Why would you proud of a subwoofer? Did you design it?

@@strangerdanger1271 I clearly typed 'proud owner', and not that I was proud of the subwoofer. Once you become literate, your mom just might be proud of you.

This comparison is stupid how could you tell anything when both are playing at same time? Must be comparing power only not sound. And to Slick S I agree with you on lots of points especially the old school Alpines the 7909 is legendary I loved the 7390 back in the tape days. And I agree that W7 sound better but they should look at price tag! I think JL is over priced and over rated! If one is talking about SPL Competitions NO ONE RUNS JL ANYTHING! For SQ yeah there alright no better then alright but not worth anything close to there price tag! For that kind of money there is far superior subs for even less lots less! I've been installing for years first time I heard of them was I had to build a box for (3) 8w6s first gen and after I was done next day I went and bought (3) 12w6s I loved them back then they were expensive but now they have lost there minds! DC Audio, Crossfire, Hutchinson just quickly of the the top of my head all have far better subs for less! And what they put out depends on what you put them in sealed or ported what they are tuned to etc. But I must say JL has the BEST shallow mounts I've ever heard! I have friends who are at opposite side of spectrum I have a friend who runs all Mosconi power to Morel Supremos and another friend who just dropped $12,000 on (4) 18" Pride Audio subs powered by 56,000 watts of B2 power. So I know people on both sides of car audio which doesn't make me anybody but I went to school for mobile electronics installation in 1995 so I've been around some. But this is just my 2 cents.

@@bnstalls8949 I agree with you as well. The 7909 was legendary, I still have a cda-9855 that I'll never part with. I would've loved to hear the 8w6 setup or your three w6s. I ran two 12w6v2 sealed and it was one of the best setups I've ever had. Price tag is a little too much though. Thankfully my 13w7 has lasted me over a decade, and I just removed it from my ported box, so I can hear it sealed.

@@slicks8078 Interesting do let me know the results! If I can ask what type of music do u listen to mostly? And is there a preference when it comes to ported or sealed?

music?

No, this is a shit video.

Alpine subs are a lot better than a Jl

@@joshholden8561Alpine makes the best Deck, headunits, And the F1 series is absolutely incredible, but the subs??? I have to say that's very questionable. I'd put W 6 or w7 subs in my ride before and alpine subs but it's not as big of a difference as people make this out to be. Alpine makes great products but JL makes the best Sub for SQ but can still slam when needed.

I had 2 12s Type r man they beat the block up too much bass

Probably not lol

@@joeybrennan3893 it was lol, you can clearly see the 2 separate ports lol don't know how you guys can't tell.. 😂

@@salbatres3504 2 ports doesn't mean dual chambered. You can put as many ports as you want in a box.

@@lunchie80 yes that is correct. The number of ports has nothing to do with how many chambers a box has. There's no way to tell from the outside but in this instance, he had mentioned in a another video the box was dual chambered.

The Type X is far better in both quality and Performance.

Jl all day i never seen type x win a comp jl since the 90s

The 12w7 is actually far more efficient. It hits just as hard but doesn't need as much power. My previous 12 inch subs always dimmed my headlights, but my 12w7 is good on the same amp. Headlights never dim, and it's slightly louder and 50x cleaner than my older Kaption SPL1200s which were 600 watts rms each.

Youre Stupid As Fuck ill give you that

The w7 moves more for one because its on less ohms and because it has a longer coil

Dominic Martinez And also has more xmax a softer suspension so it takes less power to move the cone

Douglas Brown Agreed!!! Gay aF

Almost 9 min

I agree there was no comparison

Thanks, I ain’t even gonna waste my time! 😂

I just ordered the w7ae-3 with the jl audio high output box built for that sub and when I was reading up on the anniversary edition there are 20 patents on it one being for its proprietary screws for the anniversary edition amd there are 20 of them the old w7's have 14

@@sinceninetyeightysixgustof8122 proprietary screws? Impressive. JBL is definitely quality.

I'd just sell it and buy 2 IA Death Penalty 12"s that will hit much harder.

Thats certainly a showdown lol. He's pushing them both hard as hell to see if they can compare to eachother. Will 1 blow? Both blow? Neither blow? Catch on fire? Lol. Thats a show down.

Yea really

I just swapped 2 type R for 2 W7 and I actually liked the type R better. The w7 pounded a little harder, but the alpine just sounded better in my opinion

I currently have 2 type R 12s sitting by the wayside because I upgraded to a set of Incriminator audio Death Row 12"s that hit harder and sound better than my type Rs ever could. I'd argue that my DR's probably hit harder than a set of overpriced JL w7's. W7s can take 1k rms while my DR's can take 1500rms each and cost 1/3 the price of a w7. IA next step up is the Death Penalty that has the same xmax as a w7 and still costs half the price with twice the power handling. JL truly is overpriced crap.

@@mikegriego3671 Perhaps. I'm literally talking a decade ago. I'm sure the field looks a lot different these days. I haven't priced out speakers since I had my first kid 8.5 years ago.

Ronco160 fuck yea

The type r is not equal with the JL... type x is though...

Mark Maynard. I have the type x. Not sure I’d say it’s equal to the w7 but it’s def closer then type r. The type x Is def a better deal. I mean the w7 does have crazy high resale value on eBay and they do sound awesome.

Alpine can't compete with JL. JL is worth every penny. Been using JL in all of my vehicles for 19 years now. I owned the W7, 13.5 and the Slash 1000 1v1. That thing was an absolute nightmare... in a good way😂. I'd never turn my back on JL. Their products have never failed me.

@@inkdreaper874 I just don’t like cheap plastic cones with thin single spiders among other things. Just screams cheap to me.

The JL is better in every way and why it cost 4x more...

Serously tho

Stranger Danger it actually would in a dynamic dyno so 🤷🏽‍♂️

JL amps are very clean and underrated...

I tell people all of the time that if you're not going to buy a JL slash amp you shouldn't buy the JL subs. Much cleaner and deeper bass with a JL amp.

James Dimmock I'm using my alpine MRX-M100 on my 10w7 and this thing slaps I'll get a good 3 inches of excursion and a nice clean deep bass

jr87 .55- 1 cu ft

damping factor slew rate so forth have alot to do with the quality of your bass

The box is sealed inside separating them.

Douglas Begay Sorry you mean it’s a single 3 ohm subwoofer so either way one subwoofer is getting more power than the other

People like to talk sh!t, But the Type R is a pretty damn good sub for the money... SQ isn't bad and can take a pounding like a cheap whore.... JL is a SQ sub that is designed to run efficiently, Not to be pushed HARD at full RMS for SPL. JL is for connoisseurs not Bass heads...

@@freehassan2585 I've heard that 3 ohms creates a problem for many amps....

@@2869may that's why you buy the matching jl amp hahaha

@@charlesstuck4965 I've had the JL Slash 250/1 which actually puts out around 300 watts regardless of ohm load down to 1. With 2 W1 12's people could not believe that little amp beat those 12's like it did. I would tell them it was the combination of the CLEAN power and the efficiency of the W1 subs... It's hard to beat JL stuff when used together.

I think the type r was dual 2ohm wired to one and he was claiming the w7 was custom and 1 ohm go check his other video.

Jl fan boys are like iPhone fan boys lol both products are trash and they just. Smt seem to admit it lol

David Gee W7s arent trash at all they just overpriced

David Gee w7 are trash wtf u must not know about systems, go back to your mtx

Arturo Pesqueira 619 T.W.T trucker w7 are one of the best 1000 watt subs on the market, they are way overpriced for their output to price but definitely one of the best beefy sq subs

crazy coop yes way overpriced but subs are bass heads material

The Alpine is slick belly dancing

That only shows on camera because it can't capture the movement in person it would look normal lol I use to think the same thing

im just getting back into the game after 11 years out. i always heard jL was a quality sub seems like jL puts out a deep clear bass am i wrong? never owned any of these brands

@@MT-ru1oh alpine better its all about the box that w7 was sweating on 1700w type r needed double that it's laughing at the w7

Couldn’t afford the JLs?

I have ran different brands jl, alpine type e n skars n fosgates immback to p3’s again myself good sq! They arent spl’s but you can make em hit

Special kickz review depends on what sundown you get I would go with 1 sundown

I didnt hear it

What that alpine is clipping and blowing Already!! The alpine will handle more power??? No just no not even close like we high school football compared to the Super Bowl

Clipping City Cronies

Jovon delahoussaye Cheap fuckers hate on real subs!

@@RAMON20IES frfr im looking for a new set up i never heard a jl

I don't see it murdering anything, type R is hanging right in there and it's a fraction of the cost of the JL

lmao fr

To me type r are in the same level w7 I think people just get to attach to the brand. They’re not the best but not the worst either

yjjeeper1 😂😂 yep... trash

Correct, that was Alpine's idea behind its newly released R-Type 12inch sub competing with the MTX 9500 sub back in the early 2000s. Alot less sloppy bass than the MTX 9500 and the Kicker Solo Baric L7s. A few years later came the stupid expensive JL audio W7 12inch sub and the almost as expensive Rockford Fosgate's top T2 12inch sub.

😂 that W7, I guarantee, had way smoother bass than that Alpine.

That's not how any of this works.

Wow what a fucking Nooby comment I posted lol. It’s a W7 vs a type r, the w7 will smash it out of the water in both spl and sq haha.

Yup you had know idea what your talking about you want a high end speaker to flex that way it handles more power it’s basic physics 😅 congrats for acknowledging your your noobness! achievement unlocked LEARNING! They are made to flex bro

The box is separate and ported 😂😂what are you talking about bro lol.

carlos DeLeon exactly

I was wondering bcus i have a 12 w7 in a high out put box but I need more bass I was thinking maybe to get to 2 type r to see if it get louder that 1 12 w7 or maybe to 2 l7 or 2 cvx

Lolol

Yes and you pay $1600 for a w-7, a bit overrated yah think

People pay 1000$ for a JL w7 and you can get yourself 3 alpine type r with 1000$

@@tomkaufman3914 doesn’t matter what the price is, woofer to woofer, the JL W7 reigns supreme.

@@Kxngdaniel05 you can get more type r’s for less money, but do you have the space to put them in and still have room to do your errands and carry your purchases and haul people around? With JLW7’s you have the room, the spl and quality!

@@ULSB1969 You need to go hear an original CV stroker. You won't give two chits about the w7 after. I've owned them both. I also put the 18w6 ahead of the 13w7.

Most likely if you run more than 1 R

Incorrect

@@etriganseven6042 Memphis, JBL, Boston Acoustics, Focal, Kicker etc etc. None are Japanese. They do make good radios tho. The old eclipse 8 volts were and still are the best.

Not everyone wants bleeding eardrums

@@danielthornton3277 nobody said anything about bleeding eardrums so what's your point?

that is not the case,sry misinformation drives me crazy,depending on the box both these subs hit very very low frequency

Luis Gonzalez happened to my w7’s😢

Been beating my 10w6v3 everyday for 4 years and still good as ever

Luis Gonzalez when will this happen cause my 13w7’s have been in my trunk for 5 almost 6 years and they look just like they day I got them.

Tammy Forbes one day

Thomas Marshall not every body is capable of doing the job and for a sub that cost a fortune should not be doing that.

If the alpine lasted longer it's because you don't know what the fuck your doing. Or a liar. Either or your stupid

Yea Ive been in car audio 17 years. You have no clue... Alpine only make radios. Anything else alpine is garbage. JK they make okay amps

lol maybe sound quality but its nowhere near the loudest, i had 2 ab xfl 12s that kicked them w7s ass before, for the price jl is not worth it and before you guys talk shit, them xfls was hitting over a 150

Beer O'plenty I think you only been in the game in commercial brands come on kickers are the starting pack and JL is the upgrade of kickers

The JL is only meant to run 3-1.5 ohms unless they use a slash or HD JL Audio mono amp to push the W7 it won't be optimal to be fair they both should be ran in their optimal 3ft enclosure and turning . I run Hertz,Audison,JL,Brax and Helix audio. All quality equipment ,the saying ( You get what you pay for)is very true. I been building systems almost 30 years now and have yet to find better audio quality than the 5 audio designer's I use. Well Brax and Helix are sister company's so they may only count as one . He'll come to think of it I believe Hertz and Audison are sister company's as well. Alpine isn't bad if you buy the European built equipment. Then the price doubles., But it will last for more than a few minutes, hours,days,years. You never know. Back when Alpine and Motorola where partners they built quality . Now it's more quantity and cheaper parts (hence ) failure.

Even playing field lol? You and this entire video is worthless.

Rockford Fosgate has really good amps. I know they’re very expensive but, they’re the best and you get what you pay for...

Agreed. I had one in a custom made ported box tuned to I think 30 or 32 hz. In any case, it was amazing and could get really, really low bass, still very loud. I miss that thing! I ran it on an Alpine MRX-M110 800rms amp, and tuned it with the oscilloscope. Thing was perfect