Joachim Meyer's Hut die Rosen aka The Rose 

Yeah, this one falls into the category of "We'll likely never know". Meyer seems to think that we will just know what he means by Rose, which likely means it was part of some oral tradition from his period. Our interpretation is actually fairly similar in spirit to Dustin Reagan's, and were pretty happy with it. In one of our upcoming HEMAchat live streams we plan to revisit this video and talk about our interpretation of the technique and why we like it.

Cool, can't wait to see it! :)

Could the concept of the Rose be a simple as the horizontal plane around the fighter? Moving your blade through the Rose would thus be moving your blade through the horizontal plane? If viewed from above, the tip of the blade would seem to transcribe the layered petals of a Rose. A middle cut would be in the Rose. If you dropped your tip and moved around your opponent's blade, this motion would be in the Rose...

Basically yes. If you place the horizontal plane at either of the two divisions Meyer has for top and bottom (body and head) you go through the Rose in moving from high to low or vice versa. Although in our opinion there also is a circular component to the motion as well. We already have a topic for this Thursday, and next week I'll be at WMAW but we'll get back to this video and topic for sure.

Right, with the circular motion of the pommel or hilt as the center of the rotation? At first I was thinking it was a more like the sword transcribing a cone with the point of the cone at the pommel, which could include an extremely squished cone that looked like the horizontal plane, or even having the base of the cone face the opponent, but the horizontal plane description seems to fit all cases too and is simpler to describe... :)

KalteGeist thank you. We will likely be releasing another video with explanation as we have continued to work on these techniques since filming this and have come up with some refinements to the exact nature and motions of the technique. We'll try to always include multiple angles in the future.

Yeah there are some small differences to how we interpreted it, but the functional modality of the techniques were pretty similar. One big help was in 1.42r3, I was interpreting "Well to his left" as larger steps, where your footwork is much more compensatory than mine, so I tried your way and it felt so much more intrinsic. I'll be bringing that to my class so we can study which works better for different body types. Anyway, look forward to more! -Thomas up here in Shasta County.

KalteGeist you're up in Shasta? We might just have to take a trip sometime to visit.

Any time. Would be great to fence people we're not used to, we're kind of isolated up here HEMA-wise, right between you guys and the clubs in Oregon. I had planned on registering for your tournament in October, but work stuff got in the way. I'll PM you my number & maybe we can work something out. :)

Nate Meyer has a tactical model that includes provoking reactions as a core component. The initial cutting around the blade creates 2 opportunities to provoke the opponent to attack into an apparent opening. I suggest taking a look at the dussack for more on the tactical model. It is mentioned in the longsword but isn't really clear or fleshed out.

Got it. Thank you. That makes sense.