He's not stupid. He's old. He's very old, and he is doing a job where you don't get to sleep and one slip-up can result in a country getting bombed. He should be on a beach chilling somewhere, and there absolutely must be an age limit for politicians. If you can be considered too young, you can be too old.
The first few presidents left office between 61 and 69 years of age, it is said that aging has slowed around 10 years due to modern medicine. The age limit therefore should be set up so that presidents will leave office before they turn 80. The age limit should therefore be that a candidate must be under 76 on inauguration Day. This would, unfortunately make the Hoover rule impossible to continue by 2040,
@@MarvelousLXVII That's only the life expectancy of the masses, due to living conditions and diet. The wealthy, often the people that ran for president, usually lived to an old age.
That’s the worst part, his family (wife and son) are seemingly two of the loudest people keeping him in the race… obviously he trusts them and they really should be doing what’s best for him
@@dafeekielelliott2442 Because Joe´s political career makes them money and any one else in his family has no chance to get elected because of Beu´s death they have no other in the Biden family that has a chance to get elected
Nope. Democrats made their bed, now they have to lay in it. We tried to tell everyone in 2020, and we were called crazy conspiracy theorists. Trump will demolish Biden in November, and I can't wait to see it.
yeah. aging in general is depressing, your body falling apart after you've reached your biological "objective". growing up and getting older are two completely different things, one is getting to your intended structure, the other is that intended structure falling apart because of time.
Biden himself deteriorating aside, it's crazy how they actually discussed specific tax policies back then instead of just going "my economy good, yours bad" "no! my economy best, yours worst!"
@@civotamuaz5781 seeing almost anybody decline this far is sad. his creepiness is probably part of his decline. he probably wouldnt have done that stuff 20 years ago (idk for sure though im not an expert on joe)
Not sad. Go watch videos of him from the 1980's, the 1990's and the 2000's. He has always been a racist, a liar, and a plagiarist. He is a pure bred politician who doesn't care about anyone but himself, money, and power. That's why he refuses to drop out even in his final few years he simply will not relinquish power.
@@ZachRULES96 Yeah I remember people were saying Biden had dementia and that he's too old to run all the way back in 2020, and now 2020 Biden seems so sharp in comparison to the Biden we have
@@Justshortsandothers that and his stuttering and tripping over words has gotten worse. He’s just old old. Time for him to relax on a beach somewhere. I’m tired of these old men trying to hold office. We need a cat.
@@simonreily7143Brilliant isn’t quite what you’d use to describe the old Joe Biden. Even back then nobody thought he was smart, our standards have just fallen so far that he looks brilliant compared to what we’ve been given. Back in 09, Robin Williams was making fun of Rambling Joe. He had a massively failed presidential run in 87 because he just word for word plagiarized speeches and lied about his grades in law school among other things like lying about being a civil rights activist/marcher (which he still does to this day)
It's depressing to see how he had the ability to not give a chance for an opposite speaker to interrupt his own speech back in the day where as he is just stumbling in 2024
Absolutely heartbreaking. Getting old and losing your touch is normal, it happens to everyone, but doing it like this in the most public way imaginable at the highest level of office…just awful.
It’s the stutter. He’s always had it since before he joined politics and trained himself to suppress it. When you’re tired, ofc it’s harder to manage it. Being president has never been easy for anyone.
@@jayguero2123Referencing his stutter is copium. If it's solely down to his stutter, why was he in so much better shape in 2008 and 2012? I'm sure he was also under considerable strain back then, in the middle of the election campaigns, as Senator/VP. The obvious answer is: He has lost a step. He‘s been going downhill.
The decline in the last four years says it all. He’s a shell of who he was in 2008 and 2012, and even 2020. It’s like the light in his eyes has gone out. It’s sad, like watching a parent age. Retire, Joe. Live a quiet life with Jill and your grandkids.
This, the comparison between 2024 and 2020 seems like he aged 100 years in 4, this is ridiculous. In 2020 I can see why people would have voted for him - he could actually formulate sentences and not trip up every second word. Christ allmighty...
No I feel bad for the American people who deserve a capable president. This is wrong what the democrats and media have allowed to happen the past 3.5 years. Period
@axgrf Biden is no longer capable, meanwhile Trump is only capable of wrongdoings 💀 Neither is a fair choice. And this just showcases the problem with the American political scene.
The thing even more evident to me than his eyes glazing over is the slack jawed mouth gape... Thats the biggest signal to me a geriatric person has deteriorated. Losing control over bodily functions, your brain cant remember to tell your mouth to shut. Thats not just physical decline its a sign there is something wrong mentally. I remember seeing that in the nursing home my Grandma was in, you could tell who had alzheimers/dementia/late stage parkinsons because they are just hollow eyed and slack jawed.
I saw one comment from a guy that was watching the 2024 debate and his mom appeared to watch it with him. When he turned to her a couple minutes later she was balling her eyes out,she said the way Baiden was acting reminded her so much of her dad and she thought it was beyond cruel to put a man like that in power
For real, as soon as I saw him at the debate I knew he was cooked (I say this as a lifetime democrat). I mean the way he’s looking at trump whenever he speaks alone was terrifying. You could see he was so DESPERATELY trying with every fiber of his being to just hang onto what was being said. The Democratic Party needs a new candidate for 2024 or it’s so over. The problem is that he’s not making it an easy transition by digging his heels in.
Look at how much Obama aged during his presidency, even just the first four years. The job's tough. It ages you hard. When you start out old, you end a withered husk like what we see here.
He was already in steep decline in 2020, how people didn't notice that and still voted for him is beyond me. Maybe because he had an excuse due to Covid to be bunkered up at home for most of the campaign.
People forget bro is 81 years old..most people don’t even live that long, this guy meanwhile is in office. We need to cut him some slack but at the same time, why are we having two 80 year old guys run for president? This is so stupid
@@Guava11534 I can't believe these 2 are the best candidates in a country with 333 million inhabitants. Here in Europe we have a lot of clowns in office as well, but these 2 are something else. One is a rambling narcissist who wants to abolish democracy, the other is a rambling mummy with advanced dementia. So embarrassing.
Biden has had so much excessive cosmetic surgery. His face has been so stretched through repeated procedures. It doesn’t make him look younger. He now looks like a corpse.
Damn, this man was an absolute bulldog when he was with Obama. It’s very annoying that people belittle him just for getting old, that’s America for you how can you get mad at that. Have you seen McConnell? He’s a literal goblin but still working. Half the people that call Biden “sleepy joe” wouldn’t have lasted 5 mins in a debate with him in the heyday
It doesn’t seem like Donald Trump could hold up in a reasonable argument against a sharp opponent. Not an American btw, that’s what it looks like to me as an outsider
@@Slaarduk yeah you might be right, and I’m not that familiar with Trump and his debate skills. But from what i’ve seen he really seems to lean heavily into populism rather than actual reasoning and rational discussions.
That's due to Biden making sure every single person is eligible for what he's been able to do with the, uh...COVID...uh...dealing with, uh...everything we had to do with...uh...sorry, was this a tax or healthcare question?
I just don't understand why he wants a second term. It's an incredibly stressful job and he's already struggling. Doesn't he just want to be with his grandkids?
2008 he is sharp. 2012 he look wise and charming. 2020 he is still fine. 2024...is really rough. He should really retire and let the younger generation steer USA...😢
@@framey3830I think this video makes a good case that he was actually cognitively ok, just got words out a little slower in 2020. But the cognitive issues now are undeniable.
Joe Biden was a capable candidate in 2008 and 2012. At his peak, he could deliver a good speech and debate performance. The hiccups were starting by 2020, but the contrast between 2020 Joe Biden and 2024 Joe Biden is day and night. Biden fell off fast.
To be fair, they did choose the 2024 clip of him when he was at his worst. There are plenty of moments where he’s speaking coherently even in the last week.
He’s kinda all over the place at the moment with his poor aging made worse by the frequent travels he does as part of the job as he also didn’t give himself sufficient time to rest before the debate unlike the North Carolina rally when he had more rest from the travels. However according to people close him he’s only fully functionally from 10Am to 7PM and afterwards is poor
@@RandomVidsforthought😂😂😂 he’s better off at speaking when he doesn’t have to answer to anything? When he can just read what’s written for him? Woooooow thank you Mr Holmes 😂😂😂 you truly are brilliant 😂😂😂
damn, Joe in 8-12 shouldve been a president at one point, not 2020-2024 joe, Joe was sizzling the opps back in the day and he seemed to be passionate about politics
Like hell he was. “Corn Pop” would like to have a word with you. He hasn’t been in the right mental health or state to run for POTUS for the past 8yrs at the least.
I think the difference between 2008-12 is the smallest. 2012-20 is massive as is 2020-2024. He was clearly too old in 2020 to run for President considering it can be an 8 year job
(Not a Trump fan) but Trump has definitely not cognitively declined like Biden has. But, the presidency is so stressful I don’t think it’ll take long for Trump to decline too. The age that they’re both in is so risky. My grandma went from hiking up a fort and solving complex puzzles to being bedridden and imaging things in her head in a span of three years. And she was retired so no stress there really
Right, man was never able to understand the difference between million, billion and trillion. The amount of times he's mixed those up like it's a small difference is staggering.
@@lemonstealinghorse Still he was much better debator and communicator than 99% of politicians. Palin, Ryan couldn't keep up with him and his points. Now he's done
you can notice his stutter in earlier clips, but he recovers within fractions of a second. you can see that over the years increase to a half second, to a second, to eventually what it is today
Small but important detail: up until this year the visual backdrop for the candidates was the Preamble to the Constitution. Now it’s the CNN logo. A small but telling sign of one of the many things that has gone wrong with this whole process.
Since 1988, presidential debates have been organized by the Commission on Presidential Debates. This year, Biden's and Trump's campaigns circumvented the Commission and agreed to debates organized by TV networks.
@@consumer6622Biden would not, for any reason, do a debate that ISN'T on Cnn. That was the biggest demand when agreeing to the debates. Trump felt confident and agreed, we saw what happened.
@@Noah-pr2or no point in conversing with the stupid. Good luck, I hope one day the staff will give you something sharper than crayons to write your manifesto with
To have a sharp political mind is a gift that is given to hardly anyone these days, and to lose your ability to express your thoughts is heartbreaking. To finally get the job of your dreams, only when you're far too old to make the best use out of it, then to be told by your friends and colleagues that you have to step aside and leave has to be one of the most difficult things that can happen to a man like that. I wish it came earlier, I wish it happened under better terms. It shouldn't be, "Go away, you old fart. We don't want you here." It should be, "Joe, you've had one of the most remarkable political careers in America. You've lived a life of service, you've done your duty to this country, and right now, the last step in insuring the future of your country is to step aside and let the future take over." It has to happen. It has to be this way, but it doesn't come out of malice. It comes out of absolute necessity, because the threat that faces this country is too large to make mistakes over. Joe Biden was a good president. He did his job, he did his duty, but the future is imperiled and we can't afford to take chances.
So true, he’s been chasing this his entire career, the pinnacle of American politics, becoming the President. And it’s just too late, he’s too old. Really a tragedy.
Well he's had a bit of a stutter in the past. It's FAR more pronounced now. These are just example clips but you can find other clips of Joe Biden stuttering in the past, though nowhere near as bad as 2024.
@@mma0911 Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that he isn't stuttering more, just that the fact that he stutters isn't made up even though his cognitive decline is obvious.
No the media didn't lie. He was born with a stutter. It's litterally a speech disability that comes from a small defector in the brain. He was bullied in his childhood for it. But over his life he has been able to suppress it and minimize to the point where he doesn't stutter. However as he ages, gets older and more tired, supressing the stutter becomes harder. It has always been a speech debugger for him, having to spend energy to supress it, but as he gets old, it becomes more impossible. You can hear he already starts to mumble words more in the 2012 clip. It's impossible to completely understand for someone without the disability.
Yeah difference between 65 and 81 is startling. He still basically seemed like a middle-aged guy in 1st clip…maybe on back-end of it, but far from elderly. Fast forward, and he’s a shell of himself. You can sense his mind has left him. You see it in his eyes in 2024. It’s not always mid 60s to 80 where you see this..sometimes it’s 90. Regardless, he hit that wall. He’s not gonna be alive much longer
As a conservative, his legacy would be fine as an American Senator, VP and President if he were to step aside now. But if i was him i wouldnt step aside either. Theres been far worse presidents than Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden combined.
The 2020 to 2024 impresses more than the one from 2008 to 2004. 2008 to 2024 are decades apart, they are naturally going to be different. In 2020 he looks old, stumbles a little, but I still see him as competent and has strength on his voice, it makes me think, yeah, I can get old, but I will still be competent. 2024 shatters all those illusions.
He has achieved much in his time in office such as finally beating Medicare and being the first black woman to be president of the United States, but it's time to step aside and let Vice-President Trump take over.
It's quite saddening how people just started making fun of him recently. Even in his old age he is trying his best to make sense that's rather sad and not something one should make fun of whether due to age or a health condition.
I always assumed back in 2020 that he would serve just the one term and pass it on to his VP. Can't understand why he won't stand down. George Washington was the President that set the example to all future Presidents.
People don't seem to realise that there are 16 years between 2008 and 2024. As far as im concerned, Joe was still pretty lucid when he became president. He just didn't know when to step down
Calm down guys, in 2024 he did so much, like appointing Vice President Trump, welcoming the president of ukraine, President Putin, and beating medicare!
I bet 90% of the people watching and commenting on this don’t even have opinions on the substance of what he’s discussing. Not saying his decline in an ability to communicate isn’t an issue, but it seems like a significant problem with democracy today is that an ability to communicate is ALL anyone cares about. They don’t even have to know or care about what’s being said, it just has to be said in a clear voice. Trump seems to be doing well at the moment entirely because he can speak in a slightly clearer voice than Biden, not because anyone cares about the actual ideas he’s saying.
JJ, this is why Biden must step down. He is incapable of clearly articulating his points to the people compared to 2008 and 2012. If we had 2012 Biden debating this past June, it would be a different story.
If you notice too in this video, was how in 2020 Trump was interrupting while Biden still tried to answer. That comes off as disrespectful and unprofessional. In 2024 Trump let Biden speak, and then respond on his turn. For the undecided voter, that is much better.
@@JJMcCullough I mean unfortunately the average voter is probably not going to spend great amounts of time researching policy, so the optics ends up being more important. I think Trump has been able to greatly capitalize on this by making outrageous claims in a confident manner so it seems like what he's saying is true.
It's not like if you thought the substance of what he's saying was terrible -which it is- you'd say something different. That's just a convenient repurposing of his defect to your advantage. Even if you thought his policy was terrible, because you want to side with the Dem, you'd pull the same excuse, and we'd have to pretend like he's a policy genius who just happens to be poor at communicating.
You can tell he even declined in 2020 when you compare to 2012. Everyone thinks he sounded so good compared to now,but there was a noticeable difference between his performance in 2012 and 2020. Imagine 2012 Biden debating trump
@@GabrielsLogic You said “He is a decent man” though, reminds me of the “You’re a decent man Arthur Morgan” thing. So yes, it does have something to do with it.
Off topic, but as a Brit two things struck me about the language used: in the UK, "Middle class" is always used as a slur - "Ugh! That's such a middle class thing to say...", "They only care about the middle classes..." and hardly anyone ever admits to being part of it - there is even a trend for very comfortably off middle class people to drop their t's or h's and pretend to be less well off; almost everyone comes "from a working class background" and is apparently the first person in their family to go to University. The phrase "prolier than thou" is attached to such people. In the States, I've noticed that it tends to be used in a positive sense, to basically most people, on average/middle incomes. In the UK class is much more bound up in background and supposed attitudes and tastes. The second thing, perhaps trivial, is that he says "not one penny," rather than "not one cent," and I hadn't realised "penny" - UK currency of course - is referenced in American parlance.
Yeah, in the US people who are poor will often consider themselves middle-class and people who very well-off will do the same because being the everyman--not to poor and not too rich--is usually preferable and people don't want to consider themselves an outlier. Also our single-cent coins are called pennies, so they're often referenced in expression. Our coins are pennies, nickles, dimes, and quarters.
Yes, the United States is not class conscious. It's the same in Australia, this nebulous notion of the 'middle class' covers everyone from apartment renters to millionaires at this point. I think the UK is different because they never got rid of the aristocracy.
Joe was freaking ROARING in 2008 and his voice sounded so different it was shocking! It's genuinely depressing seeing him in his current state. Bro needs to retire from politics for GOOD!
I noticed that too actually. First time I watched I was so focused on what Joe was saying that I didn't realize exactly how Trump responded there. It's like he _wanted_ him to both do and sound better.