Joe Budden Gets HEATED Over Draya Michele Grooming Speculations | "This Is Grooming" 

The fact it took her 7 minutes to denounce the inappropriateness of the situation is crazy…

I'm glad Joe held Mel on her bs. She is way too intelligent to not understand what they were asking of her!

Just like Kevin Samuels said. Mothers are competing against their daughter's for the same men.

The first thing Melissa Ford wants to know is his contract. (About money)But that wasn’t the question.

And this is why I find Mel so asinine. If this was flipped Mel would have a 30 minute argument with Ish.

Mel couldn't answer cuz that some shit she would do 😂😂😂

So glad someone addressed these female predators!

Joe: Is this grooming? Melissa: What's his contract?

I’m a woman… And Mel is full of it.

I love Mel. But if she can’t discuss women issues that sometimes aren’t positive than Joe needs to replace her.

CALL HER OUT!!! I am 27 yrs old and dating a dude around my little brother’s age is HELLA WEIRD! Especially if you grew up around them and see how they act even if they THINK THEY ARE GROWN they have childish tendencies.

She wasn’t going to speak out against it because if given the opportunity she would probably do it too, and thinks it’s ok.

Salute to Joe for calling Melissa on her hypocrisy and for being afraid to say anything against the Sistahood.

So she calls Camron a predator with no evidence or reason why. And now that the shoes on the other foot you do this… smh

Even after Mel gets called out for hypocrisy, she still can't twist her mouth to say the right thing.

Her lack of accountability for women is not surprising

Melissa is doing it too. See how quiet and guilty she look.

If she met him when he was underage, it's definitely grooming. If she met him at 21 unfortunately it's not grooming but it is absolutely distasteful and crazy.

I am so glad that men are having this conversation! I would never talk to a 21 year old….I am talking about me! It’s weird!!! He is a kid!!! My son is 30 and I would have a fit if a woman my age in their 50’s talk to my son! I would loose it!!! Just nasty!!! 🤮

Mel really couldn't answer the question WITHOUT asking a question! 😂

Mel seriously doesn’t add anything to any conversation the fact that you have to probe her for her opinion is wild , form your own opinion and speak to that.

I’m glad Joe said it! Period. Women should be held accountable for their inappropriate acts and behaviors as well. It’s definitely predatory behavior.

Lost what little respect I had for her! She should be embarrassed!!

If Draya was a man, I dont think Melissa would be stalling to answer. And her answer would definitely not be that "the young woman is with the man she chooses".

It's not grooming but it's predatory. Grooming would mean that she knew him as a minor and then groomed him to be her future baby daddy. Doesn't change the fact that she's a creep for this.

That says something when Joe and I are thinking the same thing " Mel what the F are you talking about?" lol

Joe is absolutely right. This is grooming and the double standards are gross

OMG! I was equally as frustrated with Mel as Joe was. WTF was she babbling about? Dancing around the question like crazy. Thanks for calling her out Joe.

Mel had her tap shoes on. I’ve never seen someone dance around a subject so blatantly.

She is a predator. if this was a 40 year old man and a 21 year old woman, people would be losing their shit. The thing is, what makes her a predator is the fact that 1. the man is 21, his brain hasn't fully developed yet and 2. she went after him with the intent to trap him. She's done this before with Orlando Scandrick who was an NFL player, this isn't even her first time doing this.

The irony of asking Mel about a topic like this is crazy🤣

mel was like i'll take no accountability for 800 alex....

Mel kills me playing dumb, like she doesn’t understand what’s being asked like idk if it’s years of media training or what but I dislike it.

Thank you for getting on Mell for her bs. Tired of her wasting segments ducking by playing stupid while y'all spend the whole segment explaining the title of the segment to her!!!🙎🏿‍♂️🙎🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏿🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♂️ She be terrified of backlash 🙄

Just remember Melissa's words when the next "scandal" is about a man with predatory and/or "grooming" behaviors... She's such a hypocrite!

The word salad coming from Melissa is Crazy….like gurllll come on😂

Same woman who FALSELY accused Cam'ron of misconduct with a minor, suddenly doesn't like the use of descriptive terms... REALLY?!?!

Mel's awkward response is likely because she has done this in the past.

First thing out her mouth, how much money he got.

Unacceptable Mel! Just say your opinion! Please do better.

This clip is proof that todays women avoid accountability! Mel avoided the question in so many ways that she will be embarrassed to re watch this again 🤣😂

Mel.. Mel.. Mel.. you not standing on Business 😂😂😂

Damn she didn't say a word.... but her silence speaks volumes.

Thanks for the commentary, it was definitely one I can relate to and helps me also as I move forward in my life of healing to see my reality and deal with me and my choices whole heartily. I don’t agree with all that is stated, but I must agree with some and better understand the other party involved. I was too an older woman with an experience with a younger man!

Melyssa Ford would've had a different answer if it was a man. She had A LOT to say about Leonardo Dicaprio but as soon as she's asked about a woman her past extremely hinders her opinion. Its sad how much she panders to females 😭

The fact that he had to fix the question like that in order for her to answer is crazy. The way people over look older women being the groomer of younger men is sick.

Call it out Joe! THANK YOU for not being scared!

Female here, in my forties, we need to cancel Melissa Ford. Wow... New Subscriber here. Joe You are amazing, get rid of Melissa. Draya is a predator. So is Melissa

He high key threatened her job… saying he was going to give his opinion from a woman’s pov since she wouldn’t 😂

She can't say anything because she has done it

Joe is hilarious asf!! He is over Mel 😂😂

Appreciate that one Joe, call her on her shit. Draya and Mel

Leonardo DiCaprio rolling his eyes at Mel

Mel knows she's long in the tooth and would pull a Draya if the chance presented itself.

What credentials I need to be on this show??? lol I'll come through and tell the truth. EVERY TIME!

Let's be clear. Dudes seem to hate when women date younger, and women seem to hate when men date younger. How about everyone just stay within 12 years of their age.

2:44 "What do you want me to speak from, like my opinion?" - Melissa Ford Yeah, what else? How daft do you have to be?

"Y'all acting like nike" was a bar!

“What’s his contract?” Smh

Joe you are sooooo on point!!!!!!!

Aye Joe was genuinely pissed brah 😂😂😂😂

Damn Joe was spittin’…good job✊🏿1:54- You can tell Joe is at his whit’s end with Mel’s bs. Mel Ford is consistently inconsistent

Joe budden podcast is fire 🔥 Thanks Joe 💯

Mel you are there for a reason SPEAK UP!!!!

I fully stand with Joe with what he said. Women always have something to say about "men". 💯💯

If this was a 39 year old man and a 21 year old woman, they would be giving the man high five’s!!!!!!!! Why is it so different when it’s a mature woman dating a younger man??? She’s not doing anything different than what men do EVERY DAY!!!

How can yall forget about Brittany Renner going after P.J. Washington ?

Melyssa bout to lose her job if she don't stop trying to walk that tight rope and speak up. 🤣

Joe kept it 💯 on this one

Them double standards be real

Is the Pod making a comeback!!?? This is why we show up Joe!! Hard.

The hypocrisy. This was crazy to watch. smh

Narcissist is another word that gets thrown around.

Unpopular Opinion: Mel is indeed holding her tongue, but not for the reasons Joe gave. For decades women have spoken about the predatory nature of grooming and EVERY TIME the conversation is had (most men will be quiet but...) there is always at least one man who will say that it's not predatory, and come up with a negative reason that a woman is bringing it up. For example, they'll say the woman is jealous, or mad because she can't get with a younger man, or that the young woman is grown and can make her own decisions "Stop Infantilizing younger women" ect. It is OBVIOUS that Mel thinks this situation with Draya is predatory, but she knows that if SHE the woman says it, that even though it is the EXACT same dynamic that women have been calling out men for, her words will be used against women who try to call it out in the future. Men will say "women do it too" and site HER (Melissa's) words as a source to justify their argument whlie subconsciously ignoring that it is still wrong. However, if she lets the men explain why this is predatory then all of the BS gaslighting that men have done over the years when women have called it out gets exposed, and their words will now justify women's argument. I also believe that JOE KNOWS that if one of the men said it that it force them to ADMIT that men who do this are JUST as wrong which would alienate some of his male audience because men have been able to justify this by gaslighting, and never calling other men out. In situations where men admit that some of the behavior deemed normal for men is wrong, men as a group get upset with those men and either attack them, or disassociate them selves. Joe wanted to have Melissa do his dirty work, and have her be the one "hold women accountable" while actively allowing all the men who have done this for centuries to avoid taking accountability. This is a very common caveat of patriarchy that Melissa is clearly aware of and that is why she was tactful with her response.

Joe is on point

"Because it ain't a $300m dolla bag"😂😂😂

Joe please, this podcast is one of the best and most intelligent podcast. Mel is not supposed to be there. Please get her out🙏🏿🛑🛑🛑

….. coming back to this now

Joe Budden that’s what I’m talking about !!!! Straight factsssssss she quite omggg her silence was a room shaker glad you guys got on that

Thank u Joe. This was very much needed

Is this the same woman that was quick to insinuate some under age BS towards Cam & Mase’s story?? 🤣😂

Mel would not have thought twice about calling it grooming if the man was 40 and impregnated a 21 year old woman. But since the shoe is on the other foot, he's a grown man who made a choice to impregnate Draya. Ridiculous! I swear, women being accountable is like taking cough medicine, the truth is hard to swallow.

As a woman as well, Draya is wrong. An older man would’ve called Draya out on her bs, that’s why she wasn’t looking for one.

If it were the other way around, they wouldn’t have had to ask her a thing. She woulda dove head first in that bush, instead of beating around it lol

Thaaaaaaank you Joe!!!!!!

Mel is annoying af. Always beating around the bush. Really don’t know why she’s still here…

WELL FKN SAID JOE!! 💯💯

Joe is my hero for doing this 👏

What’s the point of Mel being on when she refuse to answer the question.

If he was the one that was 40 something and got a 21 year old pregnant- They would not be talking about it.

I agree with EVERYTHING the men are saying 💯

Why is Mel so against answering straight to their questions 😂

9:40 🎯🎯 Joe was completely on point

Joe really spoke on it!

Joe Budden who dates young women- half his age- can't call anyone else out!

Mel would do the exact same thing if she had the chance.

How can they have this conversation and not mention child support

The first 3 minutes made me yell out loud at the phone! Got damn, Melyssa!

WHATTTTT? Grooming?! Al Pacino is 83 years old and just had a baby with a 29 year old and men have said NOTHING!!! Draya do you!!!!

Mel is scared. Get somebody who is not scared.