Ok that’s enough square 😂😂😂 one you don’t know the definition of narcissism so please stop trying to diagnose someone based off of a podcast. It’s not a word you throw around because you must be evaluated by a PROFESSIONAL not a random RU-vid guy on his couch. Joe did nothing wrong because we have a rule in the hood.. if you don’t love her or walk around holding hands she’s fair game. I met hella females years later that I never I remembered meeting because initially I wasn’t paying attention like we don’t be in the bitch face so she’s easy to forget
The term narcisssist is beeing used way to freely....especially if if such a small portion of the population is an actual narcissist. Ask any clinical psychologist. If yall not clinical psychologist i dont wanna hear it....foh
It depends what you mean by "wanna". That particular night he might not have wanted to eff but for a multitude of reasons, it might have been her time of the month, he was too fck up to do anything he had family staying with hiim whatever. So that allows him to play the semantics of saying he didnt wanna fuck and still kinda be telling the truth.
Ish's subconscious is helping him realizing that Joe is in fact his enemy and that they don't like each other. Few more of these interactions and it's over.
@@saintmte5076except Ish has his own business, doesn't need to hide laundry detergent and didn't get his "coolness" from his big brothers Ish doing it all on his own
It’s the principle Joe’s not a man of his word. He said he don’t do it and did it. It wasn’t platonic he kissed her smh and Joe is light skinned too lol
It doesn’t have to be if I knew the girl FIRST 😂😂😂ITS A DIFFERENCE IF ITS A PATTERN HE TALKING ABOUT ONE GIRL EVEN HIM ASSUMING THEY WAS BEHIND THE SPOT JOE SAID IN THE BACK OF THE SPOT MEANING BACK OF THE CLUB JOE SAID OT CORRECT YOU BELIEVE THE CHIC OVER YOUR FRIEND 😂😂😂ITS ONLY ONE CHICK HE KEEP TALKING NOT 2 3 GIRLS ISH ADDING SHIT TO IT BECAUSE OF IMAGINATION LIKE HE SAID KISSING LIKE 12 YEAR OLDS IN A CAR AND AT THE END HE SAYS HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE GIRL THAT JOE KNEW BEFORE YOU ISH REALLY LIKED THAT GIRL
This exchange needs to be studied. Ish knew Joe was trying to get him to get emotional so he could look wild and off putting. Ish remained calm and Joe ain’t like that so he started screaming. As soon as Joe started saying or referring that Ish caught feelings over this Joe knew he got what wanted. ish screaming at Joe and then Joe talking calmly like they just having a chill convo. This is high level manipulation and narcissistic behavior. If ish or anyone from the cast were to leave like how Rory and mal and Joe separated, then Joe needs to start reflecting and coming to the conclusion that maybe it ain’t them but it’s him that’s the problem.
This most definitely can be studied lol people throw the narcissist and gaslight terms around. This is most definitely it tho lol high level manipulation. I see why all his relationships falter. Romantic and/or friendships.
Joe Budden in court be like: I wasn't kissing her your honor, I was being kissed or I didn't sleep with her your honor, she was sleeping with me hahaha
Right, that's basically where his defense lies. He basically says to Ish that "your bitches want to fu*k me". So he may "not want to fu*k the women, but he isn't stopping them from trying. He basically sets the girls up for a slam dunk.
This is the second time they publicly had this argument and they STILL dont get a very simple point nd i see why Ish gets mad...he NEVER said its not wrong to mess with a chick after the homie, its the fact JOE BUDDEN has said he "Will never mess with a chick after the homie' and when Ish provides evidence of Joe contradicting that statement he make it seem like Ish is emotional about the girl😂😂
Joe contradicts himself from the start to finish. Joe saying Ish on some light skin shit while throwing a tantrum through out conversation is crazy to me… Then it’s not even Ish bringing up the topic…you can’t have these type of conversations with Joe because his ego is too inflated that he has to be loudest in the room…
Stop hating on Lightskinned Ngz bc day get racism and or colorisum from white AnD Black ppl while still being stopped and harassed and treated the same as a darker black man. You don't get some pass bullcr@p
Mel said it in simpler terms which wasn’t hard to understand from the jump anyway. It’s not about the girl, it’s about the principle. Then Joe questioning Ish why he can’t just trust what he’s telling him…bro you admitted to kissing her and I’m sure he denied that until Joe couldn’t anymore. The whole Hookah situation was messy too… So why should Ish believe Joe?
Mal already told us they wasn't cool so he didn't know why Joe thought he could replace him and Rory with Ish when he know Ish don't rock with Joe frfr
Some of y’all or missing the whole point. First of all bringing the girl on the show is pointless because it’s not about her. What Ish is saying is Joe made it clear any girl his friends been with would barely get a high from him, yet he talking to this girl, inviting her out, taking her to his house for hookah, tongue kissing her, so Ish is calling Joe out for lying and saying he would never do that yet Joe goes on to do just that and a lot more. But Joe keeps gaslighting and making it seem like Ish is emotional and mad about him messing with the girl. If you tell your bros that you would never even say hi to any of their ex then proceed the mess with said ex your are a fraud. And the friend should call you out on it without caring about the girl at all
Honestly he ain't gotta stress himself out. Everyone is aware is Joe is bottom of the barrel. The goal should be to point out his hypocrisy and not give him energy, and then just watch him self-destruct.
Only reason Budden gets away with this is cause he's the boss....but he's definitely nuts. None of the rest are going to tell him that he's emotional or crazy cause he pays the salaries..
Mans has spent time in actual mental facilities ..beat on chicks ..talk ish(haha) about alotta MC”s prior to having a podcast .is a model of instability and stays double talking whenever he opens his mouth ..check da history ..
This is why NONE of Joe’s business and personal relationships don’t work! That man is a classic narcissist and gaslighter! He just got caught in clear contradiction and tried to say ish was “acting light skinned”…. How anybody could be around Joe is beyond me! 🙄🤦🏽♀️
You know he the type if you and your girl fight. He’ll text your girl and be like “well your both my friends and im here if you need me. Come over around 11 tonight and we can talk about it. I drank the last of my wine, can you bring some”
Why he still friends with Joe? Clearly Joe breaks the bro codes and this is not the first time he has dealt with a chick that his homie dealt with first.
being viewed by millions of people, getting brand deals/sponsorships/ money you wouldn't get without said show is a hard thing to quit. i evict l expect until joe recognizes what and how he snd his way is high key toxic, his cast will keep revolving, and his hosts will go elsewhere or start their own. that's always the goal. a bigger piece of the pie baby
Yeah Ish is stuck in an abusive relationship. He shouldn't even be friends with Joe at all. The trappings have trapped him. Ish needs to follow his inner voice and leave.
I respect all your comments, just devils advocate, we don't really know Ish like that, yes he's this mature gentleman we watch on the show, but there's a reason why him and Joe ran the streets together and he has his reputation amongst the group, Joe still not in the right. It's just my opinion
@rrosen85 we all have homies we run or ran the streets with but we all know the code on messing with a chick your homie has had unless you have his blessing. If ish is upset it's clear that joe is going behind his back. This is the second chick that I've heard that Joe has hooked up with that is had already been with. The first chick was ish ex. Joe is not a friend and I definitely wouldn't hang with him.
these are grown men arguing over a woman that could care less about them. But if I watch correctly, Ish is not trying to be a child about it, Joe on the other hand… smh
Imagine dating joe and he cheats “So you really took that girl to Nobu , bought her a $1500 gift and gave her backshots in the car???” Joe: “first of all , it was missionary ! Like what are you even talking aboouuttt??! You’re too emotional!
Joe: "“Do not try and move the goalposts, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth." Me: "What truth?" Joe: "There is no goalposts. Then you'll see that it is not the goalposts that moves, it is only the person you are gaslighting."
Nah the when he said it’s not his girl and Joe threw the headphones I felt Joe 🤣🤣 cause what are we talking about now? If she ain’t yours I never went behind you and slid on your shorty 🤣🤣🤣
It sounds like Joe tried to sleep with her, she denied him, and Joe is trying to save face by saying, "if i wanted her i couldve had her". Can we stop acting like Joe is a stand-up guy with morals? Lol
I’ve been doing a throwback deep dive. And boy I’ll say 2018 was the peak of quality of this podcast. Everyone was so much happier before Spotify and it was all good. This is just sad.
