Joe Rogan: Do We REALLY Know How OLD The Pyramids Are? 

I own a precision CNC machine shop. To be within .001 perpendicularity is something which is definitely NOT easy for us to do even today with advanced CNC machinery. The only way you could reliably do this is if you cut both surfaces in THE SAME operation. Meaning they "faced" the part THEN cut the bore all while maintaining the same setup. Now the real question arises is how did they cut ceramic? Today we have to use diamond tipped tools to do that. An additional question then arises is how did they check the part? To me it is obvious we are dealing with evidence of a lost technology and/or evidence of a lost advanced civilization.

I’d love to be able to go back in time & just have a little sneak peak of Ancient Egypt.

It’s always a great interview when Chumlee shares his insights

There’s a few things in life I wish I knew the answers too- and Ancient Egypt is for sure one of them

Atlantis era is making more sense each day

Sometimes it's easy to forget that ancient world geniuses have the same mental capacity as modern geniuses

As a wood worker, this sort of precision is unfathomable. I've thrown a few pots on the whee in my day, and also I'm blown away. A precision square will not be perpendicular to 1/1000 of an inch. How did they even make the tools to make the artifacts, and where did the tools go?

Happy to see Jimmy on the podcast again!

As a machinist i am shocked to learn the accuracy of ancient manufacturing

In case anyone isn't sure, those vases are all made of rock not potters clay.

Great podcast Joe. We have to get these two guests back on together again. So damn interesting and fascinating it's like having Randall and Graham on

The Pyramids have been there longer than the ancient Egyptians

Ben is a badass. I'm so happy he was finally on this show.

I really like Ben's channel, and I've been subbed to him since the beginning, but I can't help but think these kinds of conversations would be much better if we had some professionals arguing against the claims made. As a complete layman, I can't reliably come to a conclusion without hearing counter arugments. I know Joe's done that before but I feel like we need it _every_ time to guard against being easily led, which can so easily happen, particularly when we _want_ to believe something.

the stone vases found under the pyramids are the most amazing archelogy ever found . i can only think of mind blowing as a way to describe them as they truly defy explanation. well to anyone with an open mind that doesn't dismiss what they really mean in the sheer quality of workmanship and how they are even possible to produce in a society without the wheel . it shouldn't be possible specially the shattered quartz ones , now they are impossible archaeology

a) we all got the info from something "above" at the same time b) humans have been way more connected than we know, and knowledge was shared c) different ppl came up with the same idea at different places in time just bc it was the "best" way to get to the goal (imo i think b and c, we underestimate everything all the time and look baffled when we see that everything is somehow connect and influenced by)

Gotta be rough being an archeologist these days. Any social gathering with alcohol must be murder.

As a machinist, i can 100% say that those artifacts are done by machine. We do really have an advance technology way back thousands of years ago, a lost civilization indeed.

Joe's face and reactions are my favorite part of these videos lol

“No connection between ancient Japan and ancient Egypt” obviously these guys have never met Yugi Moto

Really enjoyed this one. Both Jimmy and Ben are up there with Graham and Randall in their importance in this field. I think the tide is turning their way. I'd like to mention Brian Forester as being another important voice. Can't wait to see these guys on JRE again.

Ancient manufacturing and archeologi is freaking amazing!! Someone who figured it out had to sail to other countries and sell them the idea, but where it originated and when is something I would truly like to have a understanding of.

I hope someday Joe Rogan can invite Robert Sephr, he can give him some clues on how this designs were spread worldwide.

We should get a large group of skilled crafters to try and recreate some of these smaller artifacts by hand as they believe they were made to see on average how close we can get for a reference point

This guy is very well spoken. Stays on point

Bro! I was just gonna say he needs to get the guy from uncharted X on! 😂 So glad!

I am for many years interested in this topic and the more you dive into this, the more complex it becomes and questions rise. For example Egypt, below the pyramids there are tunnels and there is an Osiris shaft , the shaft has 2 layers ( about 25 meter below surface) of floors and on the floors there have been found massive Granite sarcophags. They however do not fit through the shaft..... Similar questions can be asked in the Serapeum in Saqqara..... What about the hundreds of Pyramids worldwide. Not only Egypt , but the white Chinese pyramids, Indonesia, Italy , Mexico , The Bosnian Pyramids..... ? Or to question the Baalbek quarry and the many megalithic stones and teh most famous one 'stone of the pregnant woman'.... Way too advanced for the Romans to have done that ....

UnchartedX on Joe Rogan exp whaaaaaaaat!! Fuxkin dope!

The machining to accuracy is incredible and we're supposed to believe that they only had copper tools back then.

Most people don't understand how significant the precision they're describing really is. It takes a person with real engineering and/or precision craftsmanship experience to appreciate what it means. They're not just saying it's impressive. They're saying it's impossible to do it without advanced machinery, and they're right.

These are the kinds of interviews I love

You gonna just blow my mind, and the video just ends? I'm gonna need a lot more of that!

Any machinist or anyone involved in machining understand how hard precision and repeatability can be in our day and age. Our past had some unreal technology

Dude, joe's right, it's so impossible that cultures with millions of differences might have one thing that's pretty the same!

My best guess is that these cultures did interact with each other and shared ideas earlier on in one or few spots.

The blocks are epic

Wish Rogan would bring on world of antiquity

The Japanese sarcophagus is actually incredible

Incredible!

JRE at it's best.

I honestly feel that earth has "reset" itself so many times that were only seeing one "reset".. The one we are seeing currently realized that stone lasts far longer than steel and bones...It might not have been the last reset, just the smartest to know we 10,000s of thousands of years later could see them/there accomplishments after there reset.

There was a time in Rome for 300 years when people had no idea who built the colosseum and why it was built. They thought it was a temple.

Pretty neat stuff

0:45 almost impossible to come up with the same design Newton & Leibnitz: Allow us to introduce ourselves!

Chris Dunn says in order to get to .0001 degree of accuracy ya gotta have tools that can perform to that .0001 accuracy... EXACTLY 💯🔥💯

If you watched the entire episode, it went from an insightful, thought provoking discussion about ancient civilizations to info wars really quickly.

Where can I watch a full episode?

It’s always the most confident and outspoken people with the least to say.

As a professional Metrologist and structural surveyor I really appreciated this episode. AWESOME!

This whole episode could be distilled to "I don't know how they did it, must've been magic technology"

I choose to learn everything I know about archeology from Joe Rogan. Guy is a genius.

Cool vid

The answer is no. I’m pretty confident the dynastic Egyptians stumbled upon the pyramids and the sphinx like “yo wtf.” And then the one in power decided “this is all mine now” and tried to match that kind of architecture and failed so instead they resorted to drawing

In cleopatra’s time they had archeologists working full time trying to study the pyramids.

Interesting also on all the different cultures’ takes on ethics and the concept of worshipping a higher power being everywhere

given the level technology back then, its very much possible that most civilizations, through trial and error, figured out that building pyramids is the best way to build large buildings

Good to see that fellow Aussie unchartedX is now getting the fame and recognition that he fully deserves. I started following him many years ago and I was always gobsmacked at how impressive and thoughtout his videos always are. One of the few out there whose content is not just a theoretical work, instead getting his hands dirty by going out to these locations alongside local and technical experts and presenting physical evidence too.

There is a pyramid in the bottom of Rock lake in Lake Mills Wisconsin. We used to fish it all the time back in the 80's.

Amazing works. Hopefully more information on this will become more apparent over the next few years. Also not to be that guy, but that cylinder axis would actually be your Z axis. the face of the lip would be both x and y.

Mindblowing stuff ! Geez !!

The greatest thing about this is that the lighter is actually casket/sarcophagus shaped lol

Hats off to Jimmy Corsetti and Ben van Kekwyk and to Joe Rogan for having discussions from people like Jimmy and Ben who have opened our eyes and shown us things that make us see that some very unusual things in plain sight show that there was another civilization before us. It makes us realize that our reality is a bandaid on an open sore that is hemoraging from an internal wound called the past. I had the greatest trip of my life and that was to go on a Club Med excursion of the nile. We stopped in Cairo and in the Cairo Museum, the (excellent) guide who spoke perfect French which I understood pretty well in spite of it not being my native tongue, showed us the Khufu sculpture which was made out of diorite. Before anyone could had a question he said "Don't ask me how they carved diorite (the 2nd hardest stone after diamond) 4,000 years ago, because we simply don't know. There were only copper tools at that time." It didn't dawn on me then that there was an advanced civilization with precision tools and building capabilities that equalled or even surpassed our own. I'm a sculptor and I have never carved hard stone like granite let alone diorite, but to achieve the perfection of that piece meant that artists of that time had to have the right tools to do that kind of job. Tool marks can reportedly be seen on the back of his neck.

Everything I ever needed to know about ancient Egypt I learned from Steve Martin.

Randal Carlson's mini me has made it to the big time lol. Good work guys.

I’m really happy I seen this video about the vase, I’m an inspector for the semiconductor industry. I inspect a lot of gas blocks k1s flanges. There made of steel with high polish, no polish or a sealing surface. My tolerances. Are 0.01” to 0.03” thousand of an inch.. so basically as perfect as the vase on topic. These blocks are machined it’s impossible to make them this consistent in perfection by hand. So I now feel with out a shadow of a doubt machinery was used in ancient times in my educated opinion.

They're INCREDIBLY precise. This would not be possible from most of what *ALL* of the entire HISTORY of mankind understood. Even today, WE BASICALLY CAN'T REPLICATE IT. Sort of, but... no. Look it up. The Pyramids are important. Reflection is key. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

Love you Joe

I never knew Chumlee switch from pawn Stars to a pyramid archaeologist

If true... one helluva story. Love to see people with knowhow talking about things.

The Egyptians were amazing at building things! So precise. I’m in awe of the Egyptians back in their day! I wish I owned a 3000 year old granite conglomerate vase .

So much conjecture on the pyramids. The thing that stands out to me most, is for a people who were great at documenting their history in their own way, there are no hieroglyphs to highlight what is clearly their greatest effort.

Where's the full podcast?

Ben is unmatched with knowledge, please need him with a solo ep on egypt

As a proud Egyptian, I can say that the pyramids are a testament to our rich history and ancient civilization. Their age is something that we can confidently say, thanks to the work of dedicated archaeologists and researchers. And as an open-minded person, I appreciate that there is always more to learn and discover about our past. It's exciting to think about all the knowledge and insights that are yet to be uncovered. And I believe that Joe Rogan's curiosity and eagerness to learn more about the pyramids, is a great way to keep the conversation going and keep the interest in our ancient heritage alive.

Check out the tokyo train station side of the emperor palace, polygonal walls

Question for some of the experts in the comments.. have you hand made a stone jar? Can you explain the technique and the tools you used. Were you able to reach the perfection of the one examined?..... Just curious

I think the shit we don't understand, is what makes us human. We thrive on discovery with eachother. Thats all were meant for, here on earth. Substitute War with Discovery. We all have the power to come together.

It's almost like a pyramid is the most stable structure in the world and has almost no chance of collapsing unless you're able to push it over somehow. It's almost like it will stand up to elements like wind and rain, and your enemies' attempts at destroying it. Who would possibly think that ancient people might recognize this and use similar techniques to preserve their goods and their dead, invaluable assets to them in their place and time? When a square or rectangular structure collapses, what shape does it assume? That's right.

Reminds me so much of Sphere by Michael Crichton

Does anyone know if they have podcast on Spotify ?

There are timbers used in certain rooms in the construction of the Giza pyramids. Those timbers are still there and have been carbon dated. This isn't hard to find.

These vases are THE nail in the coffin for the classical timeline promoted by archaeologists, and what made me doubt it when I was studying the field in Berlin 30+ years ago.

where is full show ?

My theory. They made a small scale. Scaled up. Made a template to cut all the stones exactly the same. And they used a pulley system we haven’t figured out what it was exactly. I think we are overthinking it

What makes things so hard to figure out is too many ancient artefacts and evidence of ancient life have been destroyed and looted over time.

CR 222 Billy: Then I once again have a question regarding the Egyptian pyramids, as I was also asked about them. Unfortunately, I no longer remember exactly what Ptaah, Semjase, and Asket explained to me, but somehow, I think it was said to me that the first pyramids were built around 73,300 years ago or so, but later dismantled again because they fell to decay, namely through rotting in the interior as well as through the weather. In particular, this refers to the Pyramids of Giza but also to many other pyramids all over the world. Afterwards, everything was rebuilt, which should have happened around 10,800 or 11,000 years ago. At this time, about 300 years before the Great Flood, a certain king Sahluk was the person of power, who ordered the dismantling and alteration of the Great Pyramid of Giza and allowed this to be carried out. But again, everything moldered over the course of the following millennia and fell to decay, so about 4,500 years ago, an enormous pyramid work resulted once more, as everything that was moldering and decaying was torn away, removed, and replaced; thus, accordingly, new stone blocks were cut and then dragged and set up by human power. At the same time, the main pyramid completely lost its internal structure and organization, and it was built anew under the strict power of Cheops and completely revamped. Therefore, one can very well say that the current pyramid of Giza can actually also be called the Pyramid of Cheops, even though its actual origin traces back to other and partly Earth-foreign builders from the constellation of Orion, and indeed, to a time of two stellar ages ago, one of which is reckoned as around 36,650 years, and thus, in a 2-times form, yields a time of 73,300 years, whereby this time must be set before the Islamic Hegira, however. And when we speak of the Pyramid of Giza, we always speak of the pyramid that must be seen as the original pyramid, even if today, the new production is addressed, which is, of course, already about 4,500 years old and is exposed to rotting and decay, and which also no longer exhibits its original measure of 152.5 meters in height but only 146 or 148 meters. This great pyramid, together with the others, is aligned in its formatting to the constellation of Orion, while the Khafre structure, I mean the Sphinx structure, was aligned to the constellation of Leo. The new pyramid, as well as all the others and the Sphinx structure, were built in more recent times, so about 4,500 years ago, solely by Earth people, by their own forces. The builders were early Egyptians, like also the largest part of the workers, who were free people and artisans to a certain part, while many others, who came in small numbers as slaves from other countries, had to perform their hard work, together with a small number of domestic slaves. That majority of the workers, however, was based on free Egyptians. For the purpose of the nourishment of all workforces, a veritable industrial food-city was built near the pyramid, and also mass campsites were provided for resting and sleeping, as well as tombs for the many deceased, who were at work there. That’s how I remember it being explained to me by you. Now, is this right, or did I fall into a fallacy? Quetzal: 41. Everything is correct; so therefore, no further explanation is necessary.

there was definitely some connection and trade between far apart cultures in ancient world

Came across how people have made liquid stone for centuries. Fascinating how it makes more sense than having diamond edged cutting tools. Even the shiney surfaces which we think was made by polishing is infact done by using more water on the liquid mixing process. Go from Portland cement company and work back from what they started using.

Ben makes me proud to be Aussie . What a export he is

Chum lee from pawn stars must of learned about pyramids and changed his career. Cool to see him on the pod! 👍

I had no idea that Chumlee was so well versed on ancient Egypt.

Ad cool as this all sounds, and it is, first me.. I've seen the guys on the channel "scientists against myths" show how they did a lot of things back in the day with simple tools. They do it in real time. Not a vase exactly but the core drills and chiseling hieroglyphs into granite and stuff like that. Debunking many of the "ancient high technology, ancient drill" theory.

What if these people were together and learned these things together, great builders that were separated and went to the four corners of the earth and took all their learnings with them. So people all over the world would build the same structures using the same techniques and methods. Just like the Tower of Bable.

Morphic resonance - Rupert Sheldrake. Explains the similarities between Japanese and Egyptian designs PERFECTLY.

That's interesting...

It always stuns me, that the mainstream archeologists have so much trouble in admitting that they actually know so very little of our distant past. There is no shame in an honest "we just don't know". They cling to the orthodoxy as if their life depended on it. Much like a religion really.

i bet theres the exoskeleton of a bug that got smashed between the stones just sitting there preserved that could be carbon dated

Wow!

yes

I will be cutting stone of hardness 6.5-7 after lunch today. I will be using water-cooled diamond-edged power tools. Copper chisels would be much less expensive, sadly they are inadequate to the task because rock that hard cuts copper chisels. My flat straight cuts, no longer than 5”, will not be anywhere near the precision of those vases. Rub it with sand? Please.