What he said about living an ascetic lifestyle in this age resonates deeply, as did many of his ideas about social media, freedom of speech, and the future of the economic hierarchy. Bring him back!
- Read the same 100 books over and over - Celebrities are the most miserable people in the World - You’re not your public image - Rich and anonymous > poor and famous - Play and don’t overload your brain with too many information - You want to work as an athlete, a mental athlete - We’re not meant to work 9 to 5 - Own a business - Work for yourself - If someone can tell you when to work and what to where you’re not free - Companies are smaller and smaller because they can externalize easily - Maybe these gigs will include also the high-quality work - Work will be organized in sprints and will be mission-based - Electricity did to the work landscape what automation is doing today - It’s impossible predicting what job is going to be created - Universal basic income would bankrupt a country - UBI doesn’t provide meaning to people - UBI doesn’t take into account specific needs - We should provide basic services instead - You should educate yourself all your life - Generalized AI is not coming in our lifetime - We don’t even understand what really happens inside a cell, let alone the brain - Intelligence is relevant only in its surrounding environment - Equal opportunities > equal outcomes - We all want to be socialist but with the head, we think capitalism - White-collar vs blue-collar is the real battle going on - Everyone can broadcast anything at anytime - It’s also easy to set a mob and take someone out online - Outraged people are the stupidest people on social media - We have also anti-mob tactics - News has become commoditized, they’re not propaganda - We will create decentralized media that cannot be suppressed - Nowadays nobody has the privilege not to have political opinions - Some technology is neutral, some are political - Science is hard for people and often facts are not enough to make up their minds - There’s no room for nuances, people are very polarised - We live in a dictatorship of 51% so all your believes have to fit in one of the two sides. This doesn’t make you a clear thinker. - Being alone and enjoying it is a superpower aka the art of doing nothing - Meditation is self-therapy - Peace is happiness at rest, happiness is peace in motion - Peace is not about external problems but about giving up on the idea of problems itself - It’s easier to change yourself than to change the world - People are not going to giving up economic growth - Lower the price of cleantech - Being forced to articulate thoughts helps to understand them more than simply sit in a room and think about them - Understanding the basics of reasoning is better than memorizing advanced concepts - A good book you can read one page at night and then spend the rest of the night reasoning about it - The meaning of life is a “why” questions and it’s endless - You end up with Agrippa's trilemma where you have only the following 3 dead ends - 1 Infinite regress - 2 Circular reasoning - 3 Axiom - The only answer is “because” meaning that we need to make up our own answer for the meaning of life - All the great questions are paradoxes - Thinking about them gives you insights that bring you a certain level of peace - Everyone can be rich - Imagine if tomorrow everybody was trained in software and engineering. We would create all the animation necessary not to work anymore and just focus on creativity. - Richness is about education - The universe has infinite resources - Lack of material possession can make you unhappy but material possession won’t make you happy - If you are smart you should be able to figure out how to be happy - Busy minds, called also monkey minds are not peaceful - You have to develop peace FROM mind not peace OF mind - There’s a fundamental delusion about thinking that there’s something external to us that can bring us peace and happiness - Once you solve your money problem you stop sacrificing something today with the idea you’re gonna get something in return tomorrow - Do something you love, do a lot of money or live like a monk so money will stop to be an issue - Focus on being authentic, unique, creative and not replaceable - There are 2 great depictions: heroine and a monthly salary - You have to ignore your peers - “That’s easy for you to say” and “keeping up with the Jones” is a big trap - Stop thinking it’s someone else’s fault - If you judge others you’re gonna separate yourself, feel lonely and negative - Reality is neutral and how you interpret it is your choice alone - Life is short, you’re gonna die, choose to be happy - Confucious: a man has 2 life, the second one is when you realize you only have one - Desire is suffering. Choose wisely. Choose one desire at a time - Force yourself to be positive until it becomes automatic - Smile more, hug more, get sunlight, spend time in nature, meditate - Trying to sound smart is a disease - Good question about it: “Would I be still interested in this thing if I couldn’t tell anyone?” - If you are successful you’re gonna be inundated by inbound opportunities that you cannot manage and it’s harder to pick up something you by yourself - You’re never gonna make more money than you think you’re worth - Pick an aspiration hourly rate and be extremely jealous of your time - This will help you define the cost of things like meetings or business travels - Embrace what you’re doing at the moment - Do art, creativity, love. Do things for their own sake - Work should feel like play to you so no-one can compete with you
True but I think it still takes time to learn this stuff you can show this to a 16 year old they’re gonna understand it and even memorise some of it and quote it, but internally they’ll forget about it in 2 days and continue to live life same way unless they’re constantly exposed to this type of content.
@@thomasspiegel5202 you get all emotional and cussy huh? Lol I don't care who said it ...listen to yourself cussing in comment sections and getting rude to possible friends and possible good ppl with a different point of view...I don t care what alcoholic ass confused us says ..I mean confucious say ....who can prove confucious wasn't a mute who never said anything or were you there when he said it? You sound foolish ...Go be emotional somewhere else 😂🤣😂
I listen to this in snippets, I started when I was 19 and a bit, and now I am 20. The wisdom here has helped me beyond my expectations. I actually have the date when I sent this podacst to my friend: 06/26/2022 10:23 PM. I come back to this podcast and his book probably once a month only for very very short words/quotes ever since. Now I listen just to provide extra fuel to my drive/goals. Before it was fuel for inspiration. Now I have something I am aiming to pursue. I hope you guys have found it/are working toward whatever that may be.
Chrjs it’s basically retire your mind and live and enjoy. It’s not retirement after working a miserable job for 40 years. It’s retirement when you work a job that’s fun for you that makes you happy. You wouldn’t have to retire from that job. Of course that’s hard to find
Remember listening to this in 2019 & it was like a light had switched on, Naval revealing truths most of us know deep down but in the chaos of life are easy to miss. I had a good job in London but had to face reality - there was no realistic path to wealth no matter how high I climbed the corporate ladder. The people at the top of my firm were making over £1m annually but their calendars were booked out for the next 6 months - to me that's not freedom & its not wealth. Since then quit my job, started my own business (equity) and also now building things with my own brand (accountability & taking business risks in my own name). It's all based on stuff I find play but others think is hard work (specific knowledge). It's been a wild ride but every day is an adventure. No one to tell me what to do or where to be. Genuinely don't think I'd be in this position without the wisdom of Naval to give me this perspective shift 4 years ago. I occasionally return back to this episode & find a new nugget of wisdom that clicks. Timeless.
Yeah, but those people making 1M yearly could potentially, if they were wise, save 700K yearly and, over 5 years of pain, would be in the position to gain freedom and never return to the high level of stress they had. Few of them do this, instead they play the millionaries life, buy expensive things on credit and get used to live an expensive life that keeps them in that complicated rat race for too many years, until they snap. At the same time, let's not cry too much for them, a single mom raising 3 kids from a low income would have at least that amount of stress, and that would most probably be for life.
Right? I'm 10 mins in and I've already written down a quote in my sketchbook: "Social media is making celebrities of all of us but celebrities are the most mistake people in the world."
It was a very 'nice' conversation for sure. I feel like everything he said came from a book though :( and Joe just repeats things and jerks his guests off at this point. Still, a good podcast.
"Desire is a contract with yourself to be unhappy until you get what you want." I'll be god damned if that isn't the most resonant shit I've heard all year.
Didn't resonate with me though. The process is a sizeable part of the way to your goal. If you don't learn to appreciate it you'll feel miserable and it's no good.
@Name cannot be blank actually no, law of attraction isnt all about desire. its about believing something will eventually happen and acting like it shortly speaking.
All topics covered: 00:24 - When you combine very different skills, people get interested 01:11 - Why we should live a diverse lifestyle 02:10 - On starting over 03:30 - Memorisation vs understanding 05:34 - Naval’s reading technique 07:26 - A short attention span vs multitasking 08:10 - Social media and our self image 09:29 - On wealth and fame 12:03 - Naval’s podcast discussing principles for timeless wealth creation 15:38 - Happiness is a choice, it requires work 18:20 - Be picky with what you desire 19:32 - The growing importance of calm and happiness for success 21:41- How and why to work smart 23:18 - Why you need equity to get rich 23:59 - The future work environment 28:40 - Automation, and mitigating potential job losses 30:49 - The issue with universal basic income (UBI) 32:21 - A better alternative to UBI 33:08 - Why we’re far away from general AI 39:22 - The benefit to automation 39:48 - Instating UBI is a slippery slope 40:43 - Capitalism should provide equal opportunity, not equal outcome 42:38 - Wealth creation and blaming capitalism for the economy 43:31 - The problem with socialism 45:17 - A solution to unequal opportunity 46:24 - Privilege is a nonsensical argument 46:58 - On attacking white privilege - how classism is conflated with racism 48:44 - Using social media to rant and virtue signalling 51:33 - The pros and cons of social media 53:04 - Our base desires are being exploited to make money, and we all face this issue alone 55:51 - Why the news is becoming increasingly biased 58:50 - The future of media and news companies 01:00:10 - Explaining who the most powerful people in the world today are 01:01:01 - Social media and silicon valley being captured by politics 01:04:03 - The future of social media in regards to free speech 01:06:13 - Political polarisation in silicon valley 01:07:25 - “Technology leads the world left” 01:08:53 - Why universities are losing credibility - the politicisation of science 01:12:40 - There’s no room for understanding the other political side 01:13:51 - How to create a good system 01:14:17 - More on black and white thinking in politics 01:15:14 - How the US political system fuels curbs independent thought 01:16:44 - The pitfalls of modern society: overstimulation, abundance, over-socialisation, constant distraction 01:19:11 - A cure - meditation: “The art of doing nothing”. What it is and why you should do it 01:23:54 - Why Naval strives for internal peace, and how to find it 01:25:05 - “The best way to change the world is to change yourself” 01:26:34 - The solution to climate change lies in technology and changing incentives 01:31:35 - The benefits of writing 01:32:17 - The dangers of having an ego about being ‘smart’ - more on memorisation vs understanding 01:36:08 - The meaning of life 01:40:00 - Why wealth is often a precursor to peace and happiness 01:41:33 - Everybody can be rich 01:43:42 - Nuclear power is the way out of the energy trap, it should be developed 01:46:04 - How wealth and happiness are related 01:47:24 - Finding peace of mind, more accurately peace from mind 01:49:03 - How to not sacrifice today for a better tomorrow 01:52:30 - “You can’t get rich renting out your time” 01:53:49 - The hardest things to do are the most worthwhile 01:55:35 - the victim mentality and why it’s damaging 01:56:06 - On being happy - choose to change your perspective 01:58:10 - On being happy and successful - choose your desires carefully 01:58:53 - How Naval became more happy 02:01:44 - The disease of wanting to sound smart 02:03:44 - The dangers of success and how to navigate them 02:05:53 - Know what your time is worth 02:07:53 - More advice for happiness: enjoying the process for its own sake 02:09:15 - How and why Naval’s turned his work into play
I’m from Rwanda 🇷🇼 (Africa) thanks to Joe for sharing Naval lavikant wisdom, wow it’s my first time to hear from this guy but I have already shared around my Village about this podcast.
@Andrew Cox You can't blame Christianity for the mass murder committed by the Christian nations in WW1 & WW2, Vietnam etc. Estimated 60 million died in WW2 alone. So why would you blame any other religion for violence?
This dude is an absolute genius. It’s so difficult, especially during an interview / conversation, to put thoughts and words together eloquently without pausing or saying “uh” or restarting. This guy has every answer perfectly rehearsed and presented. Amazing.
The one quote from Naval I knew about going in. It's so great. There's so many things we're supposed to strive for that we take for normal or even unquestionable, and we end up doing so never living in the present but always longing for the next thing.
This is kind of what bothers me about big thinkers. They tend to have some views that are just gross generalizations and fallacious. Do you REALLY believe that celebrities are more miserable on average than people who do not experiencefame (but may want it)? I’d like to see a study for that. Some evidence. Because from where I’m sitting, I’d trade lives with a lot of celebrities
@@justintroyer9373 I think he was speaking about instagram celebrities with millions of subscribers that in reality don't have that life they show to their subscribers.
If you like him, make sure to check out Joe's episode with Eric Weinstein. He has a very similar background of Naval's. He works at Theil Capital investing in startups. God minds, these two are.
Jesus, right?! Next to the podcast with the flat earther Jonni bravo, the two podcasts are worlds apart. I might have chuckled a few times listening to Eddie express himself with a banana oh his hand and his other hand on his balls, whereas this episode, I actually learned something productive.
The words in this podcast kept me sane during the plandemic of 2020 when I was stuck in a foreign country and I couldn’t go back home… 3 years later and I still apply the philosophies and principles I’ve picked up from this podcast. I’m about to take my 3rd run at this podcast and see what other gems I pick up again.
@@edwardjin7563 his projection of AI back in 2019 was accurate... it will be at least 20 years before it really can even come close to replicating the human brain. in Dec 2022 when Ghat GPT became accessible to the public everyone began to lose their shit thinking it was the end of the world and that in less than 6 months the advancement of it would replace all knowledge workers and creatives.... that didn't happen and if anything Chat GPT is more dumb and woke than before. He also said something briliant that flew over my head the first time but i picked up the 2nd time i heard it which was "most of lifes modern problems are problems of abundance, not scarcity" this includes gossip (social media/news/etc) and food (processed food/sugar/etc) and in order to survive in modern society you must become an ascetic... I have adopted this philosophy and it has cleared the way for more creativiy, clairvoyance for my projects and business. i've removed all social media from my phone including RU-vid (which was my biggest vice) and i've found my life has greately improved (less stress/anxiety/distractions) i know have more time and energy than before. (The food part is something i already knew but was a good reminder of this philosophy) i can continue with more gems from this but this comment would get too long
A powerful value-bomb that pretty much all the successful people did the complete opposite of... That quote is complete bullshit and a big reason why so many people amount to nothing...You have to make sacrifices today for a better tomorrow.
@@kevinn2759 It's not as simple as that. Nothing in life is. Sure you have to sacrifice the present for the future but you can't forget that you live in the present. You still have to enjoy your life because if you don't all those sacrifices become meaningless. Then there's the whole thing that you can't completely predict the future.
My 1st time hearing anything from this man Naval, all I can say is, WOW... what an extremely wise man! Take notes on the wisdom he's offering here people!! Soo many gems in this episode 💯
I listened to him for 30 min, I got so PUMPED from it that I ‘SLAPPED the FCK’ out of my Old Lady... I told her I was getting her ready for when the Muslims run America along side the ‘Men In Small Hats’ AKA ‘JOOOOZ’. Cheers Olympia WA
I am a 29 yo girl who is trying to make something of her life. I keep coming back to thos podcast due to the insane amount of knowledge in each and every segment. Tho large part of the credit goes to naval without a doubt, its also rogan who is just amazing at asking the right stuff at the right time. Thank you both.
He recently was on Tim Ferris's podcast, he mentioned that he doesn't believe in sequels. So it is highly unlikely he is going to be again on JRE. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HiYo14wylQw.html
Timeless. I keep returning back to snippets of this podcast again and again, especially when I am dealing with complex events to process or consequential decisions to make.
Not really the truth though, since "Rather that looking at yourself, you are wasting your time and energy looking at how you think other people view you, when the majority of those "other people" just pretend to care what is going on with you" is a way more realistic assessment. thank me later:)
This podcast, is probably at least in my top 3 podcasts that I have ever listened to on the JRE. This man is dropping so many nuggets of wisdom it is almost unreal. Kudos to Joe and Jamie for having this man on!
Not a single hate comment in RU-vid in today's world. Speaks volume on how massive this episode is. I felt like I was meditating throughout the episode.
No words for this hilarious enlighting podcast...Naval you covered all the aspect of life litterally every damn thing. I am mesmerised with your content & delivery.❤
@@thisguy7083 He is on Twitter frequently and elaborates (or summarizes) most topics that were touched on and I believe he has is own podcast ( I could be mistaken) regardless there are many other podcast appearances available online
The Monk of Silicon Valley He is unquestionably among the most brilliantly efficient articulators of the English language in all of human time. Tons and tons of priceless gems in this podcast. Absolutely astonishing, thank you both!
I couldn't agree more, especially in our current politcal climate. I decided to detach from all of it about 2 years ago, however a good friend did not. I recently caught up with him after vacation and to my shock he had developed quite a bit of white hair. The man has been stressing himself out with the day to day drama that the news covers.
@@cheeselovingtree Those are issues though, not politics. Politics is the drama / theater that plays out day to day in the media. You don't have to pay any attention to that to understand the issues.
Specialization is for insects comes from a quote from Robert A. Heinlein. "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
For the one you are reading this. You are the result of one of the most wonderfuls miracles of the life. No matter how hard life gets to you, no matter how many obstacles you have to face, no matter how many ups and downs you have… Please, never give up. You came here for a reason, you are meant to do something, bigger or smaller, but you have a purpose you are destined for. Do not let tell anybody that you cannot or that your dreams are imposible for a persone like “you”. With the right amount of effort and sacrifice you will climb to every top of mountain you challenge yourself. And yeah, be grateful also and enjoy every single moment of your precious life. Have a good night, your best time is yet to come❤️.
Naval Ravikant on Joe Rogan's podcast - our ultimate favorite! We find ourselves revisiting it time and again, just to soak in the wisdom Naval shares. His insights are beyond enlightening, and we can totally relate to his approach. It's like a treasure trove of knowledge that we keep coming back to for that mental boost. 🎙🚀 #NavalWisdom #PodcastGem
Must be one beautiful brain, crazy activity, so many pathways connected in so many ways at lightening speeds... synapses off the charts... basically what you said tbf, so ye I agree haha
Joe! You’ve interviewed very interesting people, cool concepts and thought-provoking ideas but this guest, Naval, has got to be the absolute best! I am using this interview as a reference! Thank you Joe!
@@carlobighouse5434 That is smart bro, if I was following Naval's advice I would try for my love of flying but I'm too chicken to start over from scratch.
@@armandoperezjr maybe look into getting a pilot's license to start? We all have to start somewhere. I also believe in the power of small, consistent steps leading to powerful accomplishments over time. I really need to start meditating, myself.
@@carlobighouse5434 I have looked into it and its pretty expensive. I'm at a bit of a crossroads, I think one smart choice is continue the 9-5 rat race for about 5 years then start my own company. How about you bro whats your current plan?
Jocko Willink is my father figure. Jordan Peterson is my old wise grandfather. Joe Rogan is my cool chad uncle. Naval is my college professor. Each one of them changes my life in a positive way and I am grateful that those people exist.
I haven’t listened to jockos stuff really but the rest you’ve nailed to a tee. I have only heard good/badass things about jocko tho so I’ll be checking him out for sure
@@ryanlamoureux Come on, you have to admit that his comment was pretty funny 😅💀 I chuckled pretty hard lol, it was probably meant as a tongue-in-cheek joke
It amazes me how through such a long conversation Naval always has a quick and well thought out answer to each question posed to him without stopping to think or hesitating.
bryum i guess these questions are already triggered in his mind and he thought of those answers... that’s how you’ll be quick to answer any question. And I don’t know if it is for me, Naval is leading some of the questions of Joe to his topics of interests.
"On UBI Naval says that giving 15k a year would amount to 3/4 of current GDP." 31:31 However, the population of the US is 330 million, multiplied by 15k gives us $4.95 Trillion. GDP is $21.3 Trillion, so 15k a year per person amounts to less than 1/4 of GDP. I enjoyed the podcast and he seems very smart but not everything he says is correct.
