Joe Rogan talks to Jon Ronson about Alex Jones' connection to Donald Trump. Jon Ronson tells the story about going to Bohemian Grove with Alex. Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #995.
I'd just like to say, it's suspicious when you have someone that was at Bohemian Grove come out and say it wasn't creepy or weird. Sounds like someone trying to quell suspicion.
This Ronson guy is downplaying the fact that rich political leaders and industry leaders find time to go attend these rituals makes me think he's very stupid, gullible or is a sell out. These people are in front of a massive statue all you can say is you think it's an owl sanctuary? And then you go and liken it to skull and bones as if that is a no big deal organisation... There is something unsettling about the whole thing and we all know politicians and business people take their time seriously so if you find that they are willing to spend time on these rituals/ceremonies then it is a big deal. Try meeting a politician for something you believe is important just for 30 mins that's when you'll understand what I'm saying.
Don't dismiss people's veiws like they do to Alex. Weather you agree or disagree YOU DON'T KNOW so don't cancel opinions you disagree with less you be as bad as the mainstream.
Actually, do whatever you want, I shouldn't try to cancel you either. But I disagree with you writing him off as false when no-one really knows, it's your right to indignantly portray your opinions as fact I guess. It's up to the reader to know the difference.
PBD and more need to invite him on their podcasts because Alex Jones appears to have bitten off more than he could chew with the Sandy Hook thing. Instead of knowing when to turn off the conspiracy-peddling to generate revenue, he just kept going and going. Do you think it's a coincidence that he still shills the supplements that made him a laughingstock in the first place? He may have been heavily corrupt since the 90s.
I feel like its one of those perfectionist mindsets where despite knowing an incredible amount of detail of a subject, you realize how much you don’t know and makes you feel less confident in that subject. It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect and yeah I see what you mean… whose to say he isn’t tryna play the audience lol
He didn’t write a book. He wrote an article. And proceeded to say he told them only what he knew, but that he didn’t know more than what he knew. I suppose you want people to act like they know everything even when they don’t
Synopsis: Talk about how Alex Jones' and Infowars tell "outright lies"... while periodically stopping to state that we agree with Alex Jones on more than just a few points.
My parents fled to the USA from Iran in 1969 because the Shah tortured my father because my dad wanted to bring back democracy to Iran--Iranians elected their first democratically elected leader, Mohammad Mossadegh in 1951 and the USA overthrew him in a CIA operation named Operation Ajax. The US installed the Shah, who tortured and murdered Iranians who did not support his reign using CIA torture and manipulation techniques. When I found this out in my teenage years, after growing up in America believing that it was the best country in the world, I was overwhelmed. Ever since, I can't help but do my own research and investigation in anything that appears to be off. I think it's about thinking for oneself rather than letting the media, or anyone else, telling us what to believe. Great video, as usual!
The idea of just walking in the gate is like magic. Used to do journalism and it just takes a bit of guts to walk into some places like you are meant to be there.
Watching that video, it's not surprising... Ronson was acting more like he was investigating Alex, digging into whether he wanted to do anything "dangerous" and privately asking his girlfriend about what she thinks of him, how he behaved toward her. It was kinda fucked.
In Jones' and Ronson's documentaries, Ronson doesn't go into Bohemian Grove, whereas now he's saying he was sitting there watching the ceremony and all the other celebrations
@@Randomuser2329 haven't yet read Them but have been meaning to. Does he say he goes into Bohemian Grove in that out of curiosity? It's just strange because in Secret Rulers of the World and Jones' own documentary, its only Jones and his producer who go in
Who said I listen to Alex Jones? I just remember the original Bohemian Grove film, and that Ronson's comment is not accurate. Oh, and for what it's worth, all this globalism stuff Jones talks about... is very real. Not into his style or presentation of the issue, but the issue itself, is legitimate.
my dad was a big conspiracy theorist watched all of Alex Jones, I grew up w/ his videos playing in the kitchen while he cooked (he's a great cook!) I thought it was all absolutely crazy.. 15 years later I sadly realized he was right, on just about everything. The truth is often stranger than fiction; ain't that the truth!
Right on just about everything? Is that why he regularly has to publicly apologize for false statements? He just calls everything a conspiracy and eventually something will stick. it's a simple and ancient tactic that plays on fools
Alex is more right than wrong and even when Alex did the broadcast with Joe he was able to back up much of what he was claiming. Not all, but much. Quit downplaying Alex Jones legitimacy.
If Alex started calling out this guy it would be hilarious "He sits there with his little glasses like a demon talking in his cute, little, voice, SACRIFICING KIDS AT THE BOHEMIAN GROVE"
theres no way to prove conspiracies about the elite because theyre gangsters, its not gonna be written in a letter or in the public eye, bet someone called him or told him in person
Maybe he just read more and more, spoke with literally 1,000s of people - including astrophysicists - and he's decided the moon landing is most likely real, and Sandy hook most likely happened.
This dude is really good at being manipulative. He basically repeats the exact information that would give you the exact interpretation that Alex Jones took from being at Bohemian Grove, but then acts like it's somehow different at the last second.
Whoa Rogan, when you said 'Paranoia inducing", that just made me understand this in a different way. I've never felt paranoid from consumption, and I thought those were old personal experiences from the 70's, but they were probably people labeled paranoid from others when they experienced awakening to the forces at work in our world due to consumption.
@@Dondrepad231odd, I only know from my own experiences that people usually remember what were said or did wrongly by a person and rarely give credit when that person turned out to be right eventually. That's how egoistic majority of the people are
@NeanderthalDogma he wouldn't have been sued for an absurd 2 billion and dragged through the streets if he was a fed. They're doing everything short of knocking him off to try and discredit/shut him up
Clearly alex jones viewed the whole event through the lens of his conspiracy world view. And this guy just saw it as a male fraternity for rich weirdos
Alex usually has some way of backing up his claims because if he didn't he knows the media would call him out. But yes Alex is very excited and passionate and entertaining to watch or listen to.
IzJoe I agree but joey is one of his best friends, can't blame him for wanting to share it with him, wish he had more people on at least tho. Duncan trussel was given 666 haha
Think about it: the 4th dimension is time. And two years later Jon publicly thrashtalked Alex. Maybe Alex was just interdimensionally foreseeing things
Ronson is so Hell bent on having Rogan Speak about If Alex speaks with Trump, and that whole thing, I just love how Rogan just shuts it down with He's my friend- which is the definition to me of a true friend , you don't have to agree with the entirety of a human being to enjoy their company
Isaiah I don’t think that where he was getting at, think he was trying to say that the answers to some questions will be so bad that’s it’d destroy every fabric of your being
Did you not catch 9:19 ? Ronson says that Alex Jones knew that the Bohemian Grove was just a silly frat party, but he just couldn't tell his listeners that. AJ's been heavily corrupt since 2001, if not earlier.
"It is a cult if old rich people sit and watch a ritual about an owl!" Hundreds of thousands of Americans paint their faces and worship a guy throwing a pigs bladder at a giant fork every sunday.
@@jonanderson5137 wtf does it have it have to do with literal rituals being done in cloaks in secret in the forest? All of them rich elites who have also been tied to child trafficking and pedo rings. How does your brain even tie the two together the guy sounds like a moron lmao
Well idk all too much about this due at the moment. But from watching this video, it seems to me like he's trying to pull a sweep everything under the carpet for the elites. Seems like a sketchy ass snake to me, I dont like him right off the bat.
He wouldn't even touch thr grove unless Alex Jones went in with him, and after they did, he's pretty much done nothing but slander Alex. Keep in mind that, while Alex will run into a story head first, his story about the gove, seems to be the one that's been most consistently retold over the years (along with whatever footage is supposedly out there.)
