One thing Joe is absolutely right about is that when you do meet a real psychopathic murderer, if you have any intuition whatsoever you become very aware that this person is not like anyone else youve met...and not in a good way.
It's not that high, don't get me wrong. There are lots of rats doing time, but when you go in you have two weeks to show your paperwork to your rep ( at least for the white guys) might be different for other races, I know most hispanics don't tolerate it either. But anyways, if you have anything in your discovery or psi about information for a lighter sentence you're either stabbed, beaten or check in for your own protection and transferred. In lower security place there's a lot of them but in a medium or pen you wont see any. I'd say probably 40-50% of the us prison population cooperated for a lighter sentence.
@@jjbrowned313 I did 3 years in federal custody. I was at a camp, a low security and a medium security. The camp has pretty much first time non violent offenders with sentences under 10 years, with some guys who worked their way down from higher security institutions. Guys there aren't even shy about saying they cooperated for a lighter deal. If you get in any kind of trouble there you are shipped out to a higher security place and no one wants that. A low is pretty similar to a camp as far as the types of inmates except that's where they put all the sex offenders for the most part because at a camp there's no fence and they are a security risk to walk away to a town or whatever. The was a few fights when I was there but nothing serious, But this is really where prison politics start taking place, no one wants to be hanging around with a sex offender so you want to see that guys charges of whoever is in your group. Medium security is a much more serious place, you need your paperwork immediately within two weeks or you get run off the yard, violence is a very common occurrence
@@Guiltyconscience83 i wouldn’t say everyone is a rat vatos in pc are most likely all 🐀 but in normal population i met very few who were rats and they got tossed out immediately only one didn’t get thrown out but its because his dad was a boss in prison so nobody really touched him but everyone called him a 🐀
This sounded like SUCH bullshit. "Oh yeah, I had a mob dude in my Taekwondo class, actually. Asked me how I would kill someone, agreed with my answer. You're fucking dead, kiddo"
Joe you're a really cool kind special breed of human being. Your stories are awesome I really enjoy watching your podcasts on RU-vid God bless you my brother 🙏
Knew a guy in the service who told me about watching ROK soldiers in Viet nam during the war. They were just how he described, full bore tilt sparring with each other. Bloody practice, bloodless fighting. He said he wanted to spar with them but couldn't screw up the courage. And he was SSGT in the Corps, tough S.O.B. in his own right.
Obviously he knows... but he’s right. The life of a prison guard is very depressing because you are ultimately spending your whole existence locked up behind bars with the inmates. It’s a major reason why prison guards have one of the highest rates of suicide out of any profession. Shit is not a walk in the park.
I grew up around all of this in Boston. In fact, the former boss, Howie Winter, was beloved by the community. He’s still spoken of well to this day. Those were crazy times.
Maybe you can explain this to me because I don't understand. If I lived in a neighborhood where 1 man terrorized everyone to the point where you think he may kill you, why not kill him first. Maybe I don't get it because I live in NC, but that's what I would do. That guy and everybody in his crew would have disappeared.
@@RoyBaty he had the FBI in his pocket. It’s a crazy story dude. Agent John Connelly was infatuated with Bulger. He helped him evade police, murder competitors and all sorts of shady shit. You went up against Bulger and they found you in the trunk of a car. Word got around that he was untouchable. He didn’t send you off quietly either. He was known for brutally torturing people. It wasn’t just one man either. He had a whole crew. He was boss of the Irish Mob.
@@chrisbolducrowan5110 Yeah it is a crazy story that everyone has heard about. I'm just saying in the South we have rifles for dealing with people like him. Maybe that's why the mob or the mafia was never able to gain a foothold here.
@@RoyBaty this wasn’t 1 man, this was a whole crew associates and legend. His brother was president of the Senate. You heard the legends growing up, everyone heard about him. The New England mafia was not interested in going against this gang If that gives u any clue to the type of gangsters these people were. 70 something known murders during the Irish gang wars of the 1960s-70s bookmaking drug dealers had to pay to operate. His crew was the boogeyman of the area
dana new the mob in vegas so that's why he moved there. he was childhood friends with 2 brothers than ran the mob there im sure. sure someone will no the story better than me
ooh, I thought you meant Joe "only youtubers wrongly quote quotes I dont recall quoting because the way humans remember things and sequences, is really shaky, man" Rogan
Joe "I'm getting really tired of this youtube quote b.s." Rogan ; on a side note - you guys are absolute savages, and I love you all for it, you bastards.
I worked in a maximum security juvenile detention center for the State of Texas. The juveniles included young men up to the age of 21. We didn't have body armor. All we had was a radio that would go off if it was tilted past 60 degrees and alert security. Honestly, it wasn't the inmates that I had to worry about, it was the staff that would stab you in the back in a heart beat. The young men respected discipline when it was fair, and as long as you treated them with respect, they had your back. I got hurt in a riot type situation, and would have been hurt worse if some of the inmates had not come to my aid and protected me from others. I still got fucked up real bad, and disabled, but I am still alive...always hated the sound of those big steel gates closing behind me when I was moving thru the facility...felt like I was incarcerated for up to 12 hours a day...
talked to a guy in a competition who seem like a cool guy in my weightclass, he never faced me in the final, but later found out he was number 2 in a organized crime organization which mainly does murder for hire...lol here it is illegal to wear knives in public,but showered after event and this this guy had a tiny karambit under his shirt in a necklace, thought it was weird then untill i heard who he was lol...I think he is hiding in a country that does not have extradition treaty. He seem like a cool guy, but i guess that was his "character" not his real self
Ronny Sterling if you doubt he actually fucked with TKD I suggest you look up a video where he showed off some kicks. his old ass could murder someone with the force of his kicks.
Belnick6666 mob members are usually cool guys who just do the necessary to make money. my grandpa was a moonshiner during the prohibition era and knew a few mafiosos and told me stories on how cool they were until they had to do business.
I've had multiple concussions and have the worst short term memory of anyone I know, but I'm the same way as Rogan. Friends have commented on it and pointed it out before I noticed it myself. Maybe Joe's been hit in the head enough to be the same way.
I do that with everything. I compartmentalize in years. So I believe him. I'm around his age and always pick exact years from the 70s and 80s. My ex father-in-law use to call me the Rain Man Of Time. Lol.
BTW you're very intelligent wise and humble. The amount of people who are friends with you are a sign of how selfless and caring you are and shows how cool you are
as a former guest of the Federal BOP I can tell you that I'm almost sure they knew what they were doing when they sent him to that prison. Federal yards do not tolerate snitches. You have to produce your " paperwork" as soon as you arrive they have to know you were not a snitch. They have specific snitch prisons (usually low security prisons ) so to send him here rather than to at least keep him in protective custody as a high profile inmate seems deliberate and I think it was get back for making the FBI look dumb and corrupt during his time as a gangster.
I am a retired police(3 years) and correctional officer/supervisor(19 years) and the stress level between the two occupations isn't even close. Correctional facility employees are under incredible stress levels and most people are clueless to what a correctional officer does each day. My first day(1974) I was taken over to a cellblock with 250/300 inmates. They unlocked the door and said "You're in charge of the cellblock's daily routine." "See you in 8 hours, good luck." and locked the door behind me. It was sink or swim to see if you could cut it.
Lmfao what a fucking joke dude obese ass security guard sitting on their fat fucking ass 90% of the time none of them have a chance with the weakest inmates because thwmeyre so laughably out of shape and physically weak
I will now count to 3 and then I am still the unprettiest RU-vidr of all time. 1...2...3. Btw I have two girlfriends. Thank you for your attention, dear rcky bailioee
@@cj-nyc2057 yeah ..I'll go one one better..you need a good aim cos in my wilder years I was locked up and getting shit from a big fucker and I swung at him and missed ..shittttttt...
Joe, my father worked as a correctional officer for the Texas Department of Corrections. He worked in the building and he was unarmed. He told me he knew convicts who could kill and once their head hit the pillow. They would sleep like a baby and would talk about it like it was nothing.
YO !!! LONG TIME TERMS IN PRISON TURN YOU EITHER INTO A “”” FLOOSIE””” JUST LIKE IN THE MILITARY, EITHER YOU TURN SOFT OR YOU CANNOT SWITCH BACK TO BE YOU AGAIN....
My father works as a correctional officer for the Texas department of corrections as well and I can confirm what she’s saying is true , totally unarmed and quite frankly at the mercy of the prisoners if they decide to act out against them , granted they have smoke bomb and pepper spray but what good will that do if you’re outnumbered? Especially right now since the Prisons here are so understaffed
I’ve done over 10 yrs in multiple prisons in 2 states and that’s true. In fact the first year I was terrified and when I saw any violence I’d be up all night thinking. But prison desensitizes and it wasn’t long I could be woken by someone getting beat by 4 guys or someone having boiling water on someone’s face. Etc. prison makes men animals
Joe "I know a guy who knows a guy who had a neighbour that trained with a guy who used to know another woman that used to live near whitey bulgers mother and that woman is related to one my dearest friends, friends, cousins, neighbours cousin who is also related to my late great great great grandmother's husbands late cousin" Rogan.
At 6:36 you can see that he is fixing to tell a huge fukin lie. Geez this Joe dude sounds like he knows every fukin mobster or somebody who is related to, or has a friend that knows them. He must be 80 years old.
King Creature Don’t need to heat Cocaine or meth. Just heroin... heroin doesn’t break down into a liquid unless it’s heated. Don’t ask how I know this.
I was born and raised in Eastie. My dad was friends with a bunch of them. They used to come over our house and he’d travel with them to Vegas. His cousin was Joseph Barboza. He had another cousin who was murdered in 1963 outside of Boston by the Winter Hill Gang. I can tell some stories.
You don't put the lock in the sock because it's only a couple swings and it's not in the sock anymore. You latch the lock and thread the sock through it hold both ends of the sock. That is how it's done.
@@menotyou6254 I like weapons, I'm halfway mechanically inclined and I realize what's going to happen when you put a padlock in a sock and hit against the hard surface. It's going to come out faster than it went in.
Just glad he went out like he lived. That man has been to Alcatraz, ran a major crime organization, Kin to the most powerful man in Massachusetts, lived on the run for close to 20 yrs & was 89. What more could you want🤷♂️Got took out mob style. Perfect ending. At least it wasn’t just some punk nobody
I retired from the California prison system (26 years) as a lieutenant. The corrections staff did in fact control the inmate population. There were times when the inmates thought and acted like they were in control, but the truth was they conformed. The primary method of getting a population or society to conform is discipline.
My friend was a prison guard for 30 years, affected him so much he's lost his mind,,,a month ago he set his house on fire with him in it, months before shot his gun off in his basement, becareful with the occupation you choose, they all affect you.
@D 5:16 watch the video. Dana saved UFC & brought it into the mainstream thus saving billions of people from wasting their lives doing useless techniques like knife hand block & aikido. He may be a horrible boss to work for, i dunno, but he has helped humanity & deserves our respect for that, IMO
I am absolutely so squeamish that hearing some of these stories ended up making me cry but it’s so worth it when you’re listening to Joe Rogan! Love him sharing personal stories of his youth and people he’s known!
that was the 80s..... I'm a black belt tae Kwon do got my belt in 1988.... started 82.... joe brings me back to the days of glory..... Joe's spin back kick is the picture PERFECT
That was kind of cool for Joe to talk about himself like that, he doesn't usually do that as it's not really what a guest show is about, but he's so good at what he does it was a nice break from the formula, WHEN ARE WE GONNA HAVE JOE ROGAN ON THE JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE??? He should make an episode where he talks to himself for a whole set
I was as an apprentice at 16, they used to send me in this kind of closed psych ward, for criminals with mental issues. Man i didn‘t have a vest, a radio, nothing. I used to bring a screwdriver and be ready to protect myself.
