I'm "boycotting" for a year, I don't want spotify I've never used it before and didn't plan to start just because of Joe. Now some time as passed and I miss the Jre so I told myself that I'd finish the year. I don't enjoy the clips, I got used to Joe not shilling. the being spoiled on RU-vid is almost over
Great insights. Funny for me as a Dutch person is that we do have institutions where you can go anonymously to test your drugs. For example if a Dutch person would want to test what chems are in his/her xtc, he can just go to a special institute and test one of the pills. He/she can get the results and just check if it's save. The funny part is that possession of drugs is illegal, taking it isn't.
The end(movie) "Hey does this coke smell funny?" Michael cera says to mclovin .....as he blows an entire handful of coke directly into his face. Best scene in the 21st century
I uber on the weekend and I told my wife a guy got in my car and he smelled like cocaine. She asked what it smelt like? I said it's hard to describe unless you've done it
@@davidcota5860 everyone takes MJ differently, as a smoker myself 10+ years everyday I am far more productive I don’t get paranoid I believe everyone gets different effects some people get paranoid some don’t.
@@dronesceneni agreed 100%, weed isn't for everyone and for me personally I've come to grow out of it. I used to be a fat stoner smoking all day every to only limiting myself to ripping a dab pen to help me sleep at night
Each to their own, but cokehead behaviour is a term that exists for a solid reason. There's a stark difference between recreation and addiction, and it's very easy to slip into addiction.
Yeah I agree, they are kinda downplaying how easy it is to get addicted to these drugs and turn into a different person. they are more so talking about the outliers or what I like to call “weekend warriors” yes, there are some people “some” that can do cocaine once a month and not be addicted but the majority of people will become addicted.
He is correct. This drug is like alcohol in a lot of ways. There are folks that should not do alcohol and there are folks that should not do cocaine. I have done cocaine off and on for 44 years with not major consequences. The last time I used it was 11 months ago. It is not something i wish to do everyday or a few times a week like alcohol. I do it when it is convenient and when it is available in high quality. I'm sure there are many folks like me, but due to the stigma, we don't shout about it. The Dr is correct.
I completely agree and as a former cokehead I have to say that this doctor here might be functioning but he's still a total addict. It's plainly obvious and almost embarrassing, I'm amazed Joe had him on.
joe, when you said "I like marijuana because of the paranoia" I felt that, I have this incredible fear of smoking because of the paranoia but I still do it to endugle in the paranoia if I make sense... I think it has help my confidence and broader light on what life brings.
When Joe said the paranoia scared him I feel that. Reason I stopped smoking. I truly believe it helps a lot of folks but for me it all of the sudden turned into a 2nd voice in my head ( no not literally ) but my own self showing me a list of things I’ve done wrong. Heart beating fast, anxiety, feeling like a pos, having a sense of doom. But maybe that’s the key. Maybe if I slowly adjust the things I feel are broken and use it to help, it is almost a look from the outside in
Yeah everyone has a different reaction to weed. Me personally I get extremely paranoid and I don’t like the feeling and it actually triggers my asthma.
@@homealone5087 yep i worked out that i spent over £150k which is crazy now when i think about it . The thing is id do almost anything for money or coke its crazy how i was able to make the money because im broke as f now but much happier.
@@glasgowblueboxingfan9885 ya thats crazy. At that point it would make more sense to learn spanish, move to Central or South America, and get it before it gets stepped on.
Growing up in the 00's. For us it was: "drugs are very bad"; cut to: showing a picture of a crooked crack-head without teeth and underwear; cut to: their age and rapsheet. Job done. We tried cannabis five years later either ways, which a lot of teens do. We didn't love it. And now, if we use it, we use it in moderation. Still have all our teeth and underwear on.
Don't do drugs if you can't afford to use drugs often.. good rule of thumb.. poor drug users destroyed the drug trade for everyone.. but they already have tiny drones that deliver drugs to usa.. and there is no way that can change.. a bug net to Mars won't stop the new technology to get away with selling drugs..
I spoke to a goat farmer in Turkey and had a smoke with him while I was explaining to him about my paranoia he said to me that cannabis was judge and jury and shows you the way to become a more compassionate person who thinks about their actions before doing them.
Cociane is should be legalized; it doesn't harm you anymore then smoking or drinking. Also helps with focusing, awareness, feeling good, opens mind to good conversations, calms you eta.
The problem is most people who use drugs don't have the mental fortitude he does there already broken people in a lot of cases he's the exception that's the dangerous part
It's noteworthy to point out he's totally wrong about Coca-Cola ever having Cocaine HCl in it so his entire premise is flawed and makes him seem like any other dummy that can't or won't do research as it might not fit their narrative but go off ! We need more academics that can't do a wiki search and mislead people with their bullshit.
Its a cleaner high also. Dont need as much. The coke in columbia is on another level. Iv never liked coke but had to try it and it was completely differnt. And cheap they basically give it away
It’s true what he says. Most people that do drugs still function just fine. When you lose your grip on life for a moment the drugs can create a cushioned warm place to fall into. It’s not easy getting back up and struggle to hold on again when you could just rest in this warm embrace. That’s when you atrophy. You get so used to to not having to hold on anymore and the strength you developed slips away. Now you can’t hold on and you’re dependent on what’s holding you up to survive. The drugs.
That becomes a problem because these substances can literally change neural pathways in the brain. Where you once had discipline... you now can't tell yourself "No". This is how powerful addiction is. It completely takes over. The "choice" of whether to participate or not is virtually removed. Imagine this... what level of discipline would you need to tell yourself to stop breathing? Its possible in principle but impossible in practice. You'd always gasp for air at the last second... This is what real addiction is like for a lot of people. For a lot of people... drugs are their air.
I 100% agree especially stimulates people who don’t have self control stay up for days and induces them into pychosis shit reeks havoc on your body when abused for a long time but in moderation you’ll be fine
@@daddymcawesome363 Go do a moderate amount of cocaine or heroin everyday for 6 months then tell me if you still think its a discipline or self control problem....
As Dr Gabor Mate, an addiction and trauma specialist says, it's not the drug in itself that's addictive, it's the trauma inside, the emotions you are trying to bury. Anything can be addictive. Exercise, food, working too much, collecting things, spending money. Anything to put you outside yourself and bury emotions. Many people eat everyday and don't get addicted. Many people exercise and don't get addicted to it, just like many people smoke cannabis and do not get addicted, etc
“Why would you arrest people for putting something in their body?” Well, as long as you make producing and selling it illegal it automatically leads to criminal organizations taking up that role. And these can be brutal. So now you also have a moral responsibility: this guy when talking about going to the source in Colombia and getting a quality product is not telling you about the millions of people in that country that live with horrific cartels because of the vast market demand for this product
I've gotten super high with Dr. Hart a while back when I was working as musician/ session player in NYC. I was a full fledged heroin addict. He's a phenomenally intelligent super human. Deserving of sainthood.
@@niksfish1307 read up on UN Agenda 21(2030). It wont stop. Theyre gonna use a push/pull tactic to decieve you of such, a small treat every now n then not to cause an uprising & motivate u to further go on their track. Now v@€€ine p@$$ports are rolling out in CA. Ure gonna be trapped in ur county unless u take the experimental GCI(Genetic Code Injection)
Being a recovering addict of 12 years myself i can tell you that there are many people who lose control as soon as this drug inters there system, this is why NA programs and many doctors call addiction a disease. I do agree that we should be able to put anything we want in our bodies and better support systems instead of locking them up.
Drug addiction being a "disease" as in something you have no control over is nonsense propaganda made up by AA and NA to make people religious. I'm an ex-addict and i was shocked by the garbage they spout in NA and AA, basically telling people they're weak and powerless victims of an uncontrollable disease that is out to get them at any moment and that the only way they can recover is to accept a "higher power". It was incredibly sad seeing people who had been sober for decades and they still went to NA every single day, probably because they've been convinced that they're weak and they're going to immediately fail and relapse if they stop going. And i'm not surprised if they really feel like hopeless addicts if they spend every day talking about how hopelessly addicted they are and how every day is a struggle, even after being sober for years. They're never going to recover and get over it if they wallow in it every single day instead of finding something else to think about. Many addicts have experienced so much shit and struggle that they're probably stronger people mentally than the average person, so they should be taught that they're not powerless, and that they are in control and they're the only ones who can change their lives for the better, not some mystical higher power or some borderline cult organization like NA.
Your anecdote means nothing. This man is a neuropharmacologist who administers the purest form of this drug to thousands of people and studies the results under controlled circumstances.
@@paleemperor5379 wow, that hit close to home, i was never addicted but i used, but i can relate to the idea that people that have been through a lot are actually stronger than people that never had to test their will power, some losses teach you more than always winning ever could, i made changes to my life and now i am healthier than before i dabbled in drugs and alcohol
@ProfX the point I’m making is that the Carl Hart is a doctor who administers drugs under controlled settings and understands the effects that it has on the brain. Under controlled settings you are able to control the variables. The person who wrote the comment isn’t qualified to speak on it. He’s merely giving an anecdote. What he was taking was not under controlled settings, he has no idea what adulterants where in his supply and he has no idea what the variables were which led to his 12 year addiction. That’s the main difference.
NA is a fuckin joke. With their goddamn woo woo religious bullshit, tryna convince you that you’re to weak to overcome this “disease” it’s sickening. Not even to mention.. Very small percentage of people who actually do drugs end up a statistic.. so many people you would never imagine be OTS all day every day. Some people are motivated and respectable others are POS.. with or without drugs
I'm bipolar/skitzo. I have manic episodes and manias. I use otc psych meds and a meth/fentanyl balance from 6 car wrecks. I'm functional . gotta have different strains on deck . just to handle all my Mental/medical/physical issues. Its hard doing this by myself always with no one else really to talk about it all due to taboos. Holding on for years. Working and taking care. Thankful to my family and a few psych docs.
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yoooo the reason joe gave for smoking weed, he said one of the reasons he likes it so much is fear. the paranoia & chaos allows for some growth bc what ur relying on as a system of feelings isnt able to support u in ur own comfort. so ur having to adapt consciously & grow. thats one of the reasons i love weed so much as well. i never knew that about joe so thats really awesome. thats so cool. hope someone that reads this got something out of it. have a good one guys & gals, etc.
Its funny how I don't get that much paranoia when I'm high. But what I do get is my mind being overly critical of my choices to the point that I start questioning the things that I'm doing that might be wrong and that might be stopping me from being a better person
I get that and I think that people having to lie about it makes them more susceptible to becoming an addict or developing a problem because lying is habitual
This Dr. Is whack AF. Any cocaine, even the purest shit is cut with other adulterants and besides that, if you have any experience with it, leads to nothing but misery.
The best career advice that I learned is don’t ever attach your-self to a PERSON, a place, a company, an organization or a project. Only Attach your-self to your mission in life and your PURPOSE. That’s how you keep your power and keep your peace!
Sounds like someone is puking precepts of men. Next you'll tell us stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
About 10 years ago, I went to the ER thinking I was having a heart attack, the first question the old doctor asked me was, did you do any coke? I was like wtf?
This is an important message. You can take anything to obscurity: sugar, fats, nicotine, adrenaline, alcohol. My experience, in the vicinity of my own friends, is that alcohol makes people act a lot more devious than say cannabis or cocaine - yet alcohol is legal and cannabis and cocaine is not (in most contries). We need to break away from letting the state tell us what, when and how to put things in our bodies. If people can handle it, without getting into trouble, or putting others in danger, let people decide for themselves and have some fun. We are here for a good time, not a long time. People of older generations, such as my mother, father and parents of friends, have no idea what cocaine and cannabis actually does to you. They're completely oblivious to it. They've grown up without understanding it because it was harder to come by than it is now and had a lot more stigma in their social circles. I had a conversation with my own parents about this, for the first time, not too long ago. And they were so ignorant as to what it actually does with you. After I explained it in an open-minded way, they had smiles on their faces when I told them it's not that bad at all. If you use moderation and try to be a little responsible about it, it is no more weird than drinking alcohol. Just like when you're opening a bottle of wine or having a couple of beers - be responsible about it and use common sense. If you commit crimes while drinking a beer - you should be held responsible. Just like if you commit crimes after smoking weed - you should be held responsible for that crime. Not for smoking weed but for commiting an actual crime. It's logic in it's purest form, applicable on any substance intake. Use your intelligence and everything will be fine. Legalize usage of substances people actually use - and less people will die from overdoses and commit a lot less crimes while under the influence. A lot less.
The problem is it's hard to explain it to people that are narrow minded and will interrupt the moment you say it plus the stigma in their social circle at their time
It's this casual yeah, just a little coke ain't gonna be no problem. Lol, wtf , okay dude, the streets of california is littered with drug addicts, rehab is littered with coke heads, fcking non-sense.
@@violent_bebop9687 true for most, a lil coke here n there wont harm ya-especially if near pure w/no stretch put on it. but for others its a seductive bitch that takes everything
I feel what he said about freaking out getting scared .... that's the very thing that helped me kick a hardcore drug addiction 2 years clean from that drug thank you Jesus
Fuckin insane leave the legislation where it is .drugs have buried 3 of my friends who were good people .drugs are good but the magority of people don't pick it up and walk away and when they crash and burn there is no one there to pick up the pieces. whats the price off a week in detox ? Who picks up the bill for that .most addicts don't have jobs .think this guy has just stuck his toe in and definitely does not know the implications of drugs and where you end up .another Russel Brown idiot 2 week drug addict who thinks he knows it all
I think its beyond stupid to think otherwise. We know that most people who use drugs are responsible members of society, and 80-90% of people who used drugs are not addicted. My friends and I all used drugs in the past and 99% of us were never addicted and we are all functional members of society. Even addicted people can be fully functional if we give them legal product and dont criminally charge them and stigmatize them. The reason drugs make people fked up is mostly bcs of stupid laws and criminal cycle people get themself into after being criminally persecuted.
@James Prime yeah, i mean, the only reason why it might seem that you can not do drugs and be responsible member of society, is bcs of drug criminalization and social pressure drug users experience... So if you are heroin or cocaine user, or heroin, cocaine addict, of course you will have hard time functioning in society where people and law put pressure onto you and criminalize and stigmatize you. Especially in america... In Switzarland heroin addicts are functional, have jobs and good connections to families, and are responsible... Why? Bcs society accepts them, and do not discard them for their drug use. In america, heroin users are rejected by society, left alone, criminalized... So of course they have hard time functioning, and they need to do bad stuff to support their drug habbit.... So drug war and social unacceptence enhances addiction, and gets people sucked into never ending miserable cycle..
So I just watched the whole podcast on Spotify, I agree with many of this guys ideas including legalisation, testing, harm reduction but he just doesn’t want to go there when it comes to drugs causing addiction or damage, his side step regarding what Jordan Peterson went through says it all, in response to the question what do you think about the horrible experience Peterson had coming off benzos his reply was “ why did he stop” erm cause he fucking wanted to dude!!! He never once mentioned the neurological aspect to cocaine or heroin addiction and just blamed it all on people’s stuff, I’ve tried both and the first thing that goes through your mind is “more” your brain wants more and yeah if you have shit going on then you probably are more likely to do more but some of these drugs are physically addictive and it seems he has a real blind spot there
My thoughts exactly, he’s either never felt withdrawal like most people have, or he’s just for some reason able to tolerate it or is just super disciplined and always does the right thing and keeps it in moderation. Very fascinating podcast I loved it.
The guy is a rock salesman in a stain-glass factory. He's educated beyond his intelligence as the saying goes. You can tell a person is addicted when they can rationalize the suffering of others.
Look if you don't do the shit 3r4 days in a row you'll never become addicted bit if you do it everyday for a week r month yea you will be the thing you need to remember with the hard shit is moderation if not you get what you get pretty simple really
Can't really get into a habit of using Spotify, still haven't listened to a single full episode since they switched. It definitely helped cure my addiction to JRE that I had for 8 years lol, I don't know if that's a good thing though I do miss it, but oh well.
The dude got his money. Can't blame him. I'm not following to Spotify though. I've tried but I can't get past the 5 minutes of ads before every episode.
@@jakedahl8431 You can literally fast forward through Spotify adds faster than RU-vid adds. You don't even have to wait the 5 seconds. Tf are you talking about? 🤣
@Damion Carter coca plants are very fussy with their requirements. Basically they can only grow in the Andes or climates exactly like that. Opium poppies are a helluva lot more hardy and can grow just about anywhere
Former Caine salesmen here: Joe all of those negative things you stated about its users are 100% true. Very few of my many many customers seemed to be non shady people. The Caine brings it out of people. It's also stupid fun.
All's it takes is one speedbump in your life, like a family tragedy, work issues etc to make someone go from a recreational user to achieve a high to someone who uses to achieve a state of normality... As human beings, we don't like feeling down, we like a state of balance... The drug itself isn't the addictive thing, it's merely the vessel that helps people achieve escape from reality... In a society that is perpetuated by negatives by overwhelming media influences and mental adversities... I don't believe that narcotics or drugs of any kind are beneficial on an ongoing basis... Each to their own, but I can definitely say that I believe the majority of people who try drugs are not in a place in life where they can enjoy them without being exposed to or mitigating their detriments...
I like when Joe has credible guests on here that know what they’re talking about while discussing certain topics. When it comes to drugs, this is the guy to talk to...
@@gabrielfigueroa6483 Wtf are you talking about, 60 a gram is (was) pretty standard pricing for a gram of coke in basically all major American cities before the pandemic.
As soon as it gets to the end of the video the volume ramps up like five notches and has Joe Rogan screaming Spotify like those old 90s commercials were the volume is just ridiculous
I've seen the worst and even worse of alcohol abuse and I know a lot of people that use cocaine at parties or just sometimes at home with their partner. I'll go for cocaine anytime. And now my son is of drinking age... I rather see him do something else than alcohol with friends. A dangerous combination. I never touched a drop of alcohol.
6:15 "Caves you fear to enter hold the treasure you seek" Weed started makin' me paranoid yrs ago but sometimes recently i started noticing this reflective thought patterns while on it , it's worth it;)
.... hearing this snippit (no pun intended) of the Podcast I just remember the Greatful Dead Song ..... "Driving that Train, High on Cocaine, Casey Jones you better, watch your Speed" ..... the other one by the Beatles Dr. Robert and lastly Jethro Tull's Dr. Bogenbroom ...... hell yeah Dr. Hart, nobody should interfere what you ingest, even one's diet, as long as you are responsible for your acts and pay for your own healthcare .... Drug War should end, legallize everything, tax it, enforce safety and property laws ......
I agree. Coke or MDMA are great in moderation.. nothing like having a great night planned with some mates and ripping into a bag. But you've got to have your head scewed on about it, can be a real slippery slope.
I gotta say...I'm a single mom and my daughter has a lifelong disability. I work my butt off and work relentlessly to provide everything I possibly can for her including therapies and classes to help her overcome her disability...a little coke goes a long way to keep my extremely depleted body and mind going. Keeps me from becoming a drunk mess...I don't do it anymore because I don't want to accidentally take fenny but shit...a little good quality upper really went a long way to make me more productive and overall happier and more capable 🤷 oh well
The worst thing is when someone finds something that makes them feel better then anything else in the world and there life revolves around it. I think the point that this guy is wanting to get across is that when this does happen to people we need to be able to give them something that isn’t killing them and the drugs itself is not what kills.
Take him some where out of town set up a padded cell get your family involved and have a toilet water source and a space in the door for food etc he will go through total hell on earth but he will NOT die after a few days it will get way better I did that with my sister here in Australia they will plead beg promise and say anything to get out and get the drug but as hard as it is pay no attention to it.
This guy seems to really focus a lot on the good, and none of the bad. It's one thing to understand the biochemistry, neuoropsychology and so forth in terms of why drugs make people feel good temporarily when people are using. The problem is the long term effects on the users body (cardiac, liver, dental, nerve damage, etc.) which are extremely costly and time consuming to manage and they will never be "normal" again. There is also the mental and social destruction to not only the user, but those around them. You're essentially releasing "fake" happiness into you body, at completely unrealistic levels ("high"). You think you're having the time of your life, even if you're doing nothing satisfactory or useful (other than the drug itself), while your family sits at home wondering where you are. When the high goes away, you're left feeling empty- you're body is depleted and resistant to the neurotransmitters that made you feel this way (all ARTIFICIALLY released by the drug- it's fake). Regular things that would make you happy no longer do. You're left chasing that high- and overtime you'll even become resistant to the drug itself. After this goes on for a period of time, you get to go back to an empty home or a family that no longer wants you around because you've left them twisting in the wind. You're no longer trustworthy- you've told endless lies by now. You are unable to feel happiness like you did before. You don't even know who you are anymore. Many of your "old" friends don't even know who you are anymore. You have plenty of "new" friends- all fighting the same battle you know find yourself in. Everyday one of them has a major crisis on their hands (perceived or real)- and their crisis are the "glue" that seems to hold you all together, the feeling of companionship and understanding through the chaos that surrounds you all. You're lucky to still have a career- if you even have that anymore or ever did to begin with. You've made a lot of bad decisions while riding the high that has left you with physical or emotional damage (relationships, injuries, health concerns, etc.) You are probably in financial ruin as well, unless you are extremely wealthy. It's not all unicorns and rainbows. This doesn't happen to every user, but enough of them that it's at least worth mentioning. If I told you there was a 10% chance you'd end up like this, would you think twice about taking the drugs to begin with? This guy seems to be oblivious to that.
there's not a lot of bad for most hard drugs. I know many high functioning rich meth addicts on wall street and silicon valley. Even a dentist with the most perfect teeth I've seen
@@ah2522 you sound exactly like one of my good friends did about a year ago. Unfortunately he committed suicide last May. I also had the joy of growing up in a poor neighborhood and around family members, loaded with drugs as well as all kinds of social and economic issues (usually exacerbated by the addiction). Most of the people I knew from back then are also dead. The ones that are alive and partook in the drug scene are in terrible health. So sure, maybe you know some rich people that have managed to keep themselves alive and in somewhat decent health (but the truth is, you're not their physician, and you can only tell so much by looking at them). But for those of us that aren't heirs to millions (which is 99% of the population), drug addiction is not pretty. But think of it how you like. That's your choice.
In the movie The Wolf of Wall Street Leo playing Jordan Belfort smoked crack with his friend Donnie in the first half hour and wasn't looked down on. They used coke in Boogie Nights and Goodfellas too.
2.8 million people die from health problems related to obesity every year and about 0.5 million died from drug overdose so are you going to boycott fast food restaurants? I think not. People are going to eat fast food regardless the same way people are going to use drugs regardless buts it’s best if people do both as safely as possible and are educated to the max about what they are putting into their body.
