"Wouldn't it... be awesome if they were good for you?" Lowkey that might be one of the best jokes Rogan's ever come out with. The timing was impeccable
@@drseanpatrick696 cigars are not cigarettes... Not even made the same. Nicotine is just a stimulant. Consume it how you please. Cigarettes on the other hand, made to be addictive just like Pepsi.
@@revolvermaster4939 Fair enough. As far as cigarettes are concerned, though, I was smoking a pack a day (plus another half pack if I was out drinking in the evening). I managed to quit late 2021 and now my dental hygiene is massively improved; I can walk up hills (not to mention exercise) without wheezing; it's insanely good for my wallet (bc cigarettes are very expensive in the UK); and to top it all off my parents aren't constantly nagging me to quit anymore. Definitely the best decision of my adult life to kick cigs.
@@robk6635 yeah I smoked cigarettes from 13-50, quit 11 years ago. I used to run 6-8 miles a day until I was in my 40’s so they didn’t seem to bother me a lot. I got pneumonia and that made me quit. Cigars & cigarettes are definitely 2 completely different things.
Cigars are amazing. I’m an avid weed smoker buuuut I think I prefer a good cigar. A high tier cigar mixed with a little weed in it (not much) would be amazing.
@Ruben Aguilar true. I don,t think I've ever once approached my friday and Saturday weekly cigars and though "oooh can't wait to get that nicotine sooooohhhhn!"
I enjoy cigarettes and cigars, but I've never felt addicted to them, even when I would smoke regularly in high school. I remember just one day completely losing the desire to do it, and I quit right there. I've had a few every now and then because c'mon, there's literal microplastics in us, what harm is a little smoke going to do? But I've still never become addicted. It's something that I enjoy every once in awhile, but habitually I just get sick of it really quickly. It's like I have the opposite of addiction with tobacco where I enjoy it more the less of it I have.
Nicotine delivery method is the addicting thing. The rate of delivery is very slow with a cigar, so the addictive properties are equally low. When cigarettes are inhaled, the rush of nicotine delivery is incredibly fast-this is what makes them so addictive, not the nicotine itself, it's the mad rush into your blood stream.
@@كابامارو-ذ8ر you dont understand what he’s saying. He didn’t say anything about the amount of nicotine. He’s saying that the way your body takes in the nicotine is what causes addiction. Because nicotine from cigars is taken into the body slower its less addiction forming because you dont really get a buzz from it while cigarettes give you a buzz and its absorbed so quickly thats what makes it more addictive. Theres medical studies on nicotine and its addictiveness that show that nicotine itself is not very addictive its the way you use it that is addictive.
I quit cigarettes many times and it was extremely hard to do until I finally quit for good. A few years later I smoked cigars, sometimes a few a day, sometimes one every other day and sometimes a week or so between without even thinking about it. Completely different and not addictive. There is something in cigarettes that makes you hooked, plus the inhaling into your lungs is what kills you. Mouth cancer is rare and most people that get it are alcoholics.
There’s nothing I enjoy more than making cocktail or a glass of whiskey, sitting on my porch, playing some smooth jazz, and lighting up a cigar. It’s the most relaxing experience.
Alcohol and cigarettes addiction actually destroyed my life. I could remember several years ago after divorce with my husband which brought me into my disastrous journey on Alcohol and cigarettes. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Ive done shrooms last month in my house. It taught me how severely traumatized I was from alcohol. I healed from many mental traumas from my past and was able to forgive, let go. Shrooms to me is a remedy not a vice. I even felt more refreshed the morning after. So no hangovers. No depression mood for days. No anxiety.I now have a more calm mind
Cigars have a much smoother and gentle nicotine effect than cigarettes. Cigarettes give you a rush, but with cigars you don't really notice the nicotine in the beginning and only after a few minutes you feel it a little.
I quit alcohol about 14 months ago and the only thing keeping me sane was cigarettes. When I realised that I have overcome my addiction, I quit smoking cigarettes as well about 2 months ago. (used to smoke a pack a day for last 10 years). It's all about the will power and your discipline. What kind of a man I would be if I couldn't control what I put in my system.
Congrats!! I have been sober for...17 years. No drugs, no alcohol. And i stop cigarette 8 years ago. I am considering gett8ng into cigat smoking. I feel really confident about my health and my mental health. I just love the smell. The taste. My grand pa use to smoke cigar. I am not looking for approbation. Just sharing my tought. I feel like i am in control now. More than ever. And i could enjoy the occasional cigar in good company.
and vice versa, having ONE drink helps me not go off the handle..I rarely drink but when stress builds up and i cant run or bike anymore, i have to have ONE drink or else i think of those damn cigarettes, quit a month ago and now when i get stressed i buy a cigar just so i dont buy a pack. long story short, drinking once in a while, helps me not smoke like a chief after 30 plus years of high concentrate dose of nicotine via rollies.
@@S0lidStewie According to many studies, 1-2 cigars a week doesen't significantly increase any health problems, but it's obiviously not good for you either.
I've smoked cigars for the past 8 years. They help me remain sober believe it or not. The taste of a great cigar is exquisite and I would equate it to someone who can taste the flavor notes in scotch. Cigar smokers get an array of different tasting notes; Leather, earth, cedar, cocoa, and caramel among others. I usually only smoke a cigar when I can relax and concentrate on the flavors. And these flavors are all natural flavor notes in the tobacco, not infused flavors, though you can get artificially flavored or infused cigars . As a matter of fact, as I type this, I'm smoking an El GueGuense maduro and it's killer.
@@t.ch1492 cigarettes have additives and other chemicals even the cigarette paper has chemicals added(to slow down burn). Cigars are 100% additive free (except infused cigars) and use whole leaves (not chopped and mixed like cigarettes). The whole process of making a cigar, from planting, cutting, hanging, fermenting and rolling are all organic. I'm guessing that makes the biggest difference.
FUN FACT! Our bodies already produce little amounts of “nicotine” and when you start smoking cigarettes then your body realizes hey we’re getting nicotine from here and we don’t need to produce more. So your body stop producing little amounts of it. And when you try and quit you’re body’s like “hey we stopped making it so we need it now” wich causes that “urge to smoke one” Hope this helps
So the rush is not a benefit for you? C'mon man your not fooling anyone. I love Cigars for sure but, the tiny slow nicotine relaxant it gives you is just an amazing compliment to the taste of different cigars. It taste even better with some Bourbon. Cheers. 🥃
I smoke 2 cigars everyday and occasionally 3 and other than 1 time I've never felt any "kick" or buzz or high from a cigar! I'm also a cigarette smoker which you most definitely don't feel anything from. Unless of course it's been a long time since you've had a cigarette, that's a given. Anyways my point is that daily smokers don't feel any different when you finish a cigar than you did before you lit it. So yeah for a lot of us it's completely about the flavor, the experience, and just taking the time to sit down and enjoy a cigar. The buzz part I'm sure is a big draw for someone who is only a weekend or special occasion smoker, but they are the only ones who really feel anything like that. I would imagine that it is a big aspect of it for someone like Joe Rogan who doesn't smoke very often and lives such a healthy lifestyle that his body doesn't have a very high tolerance to foreign substances like nicotine. It's kinda like how a person who drinks coffee a lot doesn't feel anything from a so called energy drink, but a super healthy person will get jacket up out of their mind off of just one.
@@JesseCase Sorry to disagree with you, but you are wrong. This is coming from someone who smokes literally anything, cigars and cigarretes included. You do get a kick, is just that you got used to it. Stop smoking for a week, or even a month and see the difference. You don't just smoke it for the flavour, favour is a bonus don't get me wrong, you smoke it because 1. you got used to it and it's part of your routine, and 2. you get a dopamine kick from it, because you inhale a huge amount of nicotine from it, even if you don't notice it anymore. Which is why everything comes better when it's controlled. IT applies to everything, drugs alcohol and so on.
Cigarettes are hard to quit because of the additives and because instead of real tobacco, they are often made with paper that has been coated with a high concentration of tobacco essence or straight nicotine. That's why cigar and pipes smokers typically dont have addiction issues.
@@TheDeathtune I see your point but 0% alcohol and nicotine would be a different product and market segment. I’m just saying there is a large population of pipe/cigar and bourbon hobbyist who appreciate the product for its entirety, and not just using it for the purpose of getting a buzz or drunk.
Personally, the nicotine isn't why I smoke. It's an hour to two hours of time that I can sit back, relax, reflect on my day, think through things, etc. I also often smoke while enjoying the company of friends and family and even strangers too. Next would be for the flavors I get, and the wide range of flavors depending on the fillers, binder, and wrapper. It's interesting seeing which sticks pair well with which Bourbons and scotches. The nicotine is the very last thing on the list of why I smoke cigars.
Same here buddy. I started smoking cigars like 2 years ago and it's become sort of like a meditation whenever I smoke one at the end of the month. It's one of the reasons I like smoking them cus they're not addictive, I smoke about 1-2 a month and it's really just relaxing as hell.
@@lolohets6467 before my daughter, I was smoking upwards of 4 a day 😭🤣. But it was the only thing I had to be able to step away from it all, with Covid and low work hours it was even more. Now I get one 2-3 times a week, if I'm lucky. But my love for cigars have stayed steady for the years I've been smoking.
Absolutely agree to all of the above. Started smoking 7 years and it’s become the “centering” time of my life and the balance point of my life. I’m smoking as I’m watching and writing this reply. 😂.
@@TheAlchemistDavid the cigar has become my therapist. It's the only hour or so a day I get to sit down, relax and reflect. To go over things in my mind, to prepare for future events, to look back at past mistakes and look for better ways to respond. Between work, my daughter, friends, and life as a whole I don't get that time unless I purposely carve out that time to have my cigar.
Nicotine is only addictive because you don't consume calcium hydroxide or limestone after using it. Look up how natives used tobacco or coca with limestone refined products. Once you understand that you understand alkaloid addictions
Learned that from Steve Harvey. Infamous clip of him smoking a cigar. Goes “cigar is yoga” as he continues to breath out his nose while letting smoke out his mouth slowly. Really is meditative.
As a cigar smoker and I know there's a lot of us that do, I smoke for the taste, I enjoy the different tastes that come from different sticks. The nicotine effects are just an added bonus.
I thought that’s why all people did it for the taste. I never really understood the point of smoking cigars because it just reminded me of a cigarette. But I do it with cannabis. I think it’s because I get high all the time so I thought I should appreciate the terpenes of the flower and actually taste them. Honestly I enjoy tasting different weed than the highs 😂 it’s crazy what genetics can do for flavor. Although I’ve never had a proper cigar I’ll have to try it one day.
@@Dan.r.la420 Interesting. I used to smoke weed, a lot. Haven't touched it in nearly a decade. I never started smoking cigarettes, weed was first and I never got into cigarettes thank goodness. Yes you definitely have to try a premium cigar. I really do enjoy the hobby of cigars. I recommend going to a proper tobacconist as the workers in the store will help you choose something that you'll enjoy. If you live in the states there's tons of b&m stores there.
Another great fact about cigars, different groups of tissue cause different receptor reactions from nicotine. The mouth tissue stimulates the brain/cognitive function. The core/lungs stimulate the nervous system. That's why cigars are easy to quit it's all mental and very little physical. Cigarettes stimulate the nervous system causing more of a body high similar to a mild painkiller. But what happens when you get off painkillers? Body aches, discomfort, skin crawling, whatever it gives it take 5x more. That's why I'm 14 years clean off cigarettes. When I get a cold and have to quit cigars for a week or so I'm a little grumpy for a day that's it. Whereas cigarettes lungs have to clean themselves, the nervous system freak out and send pain/discomfort/swelling/etc... Chest tight as a mofo. On top of a cognitive withdraw. No thanks I'm going to stick to my one cigar a day at the end of the night. But to each their own.
Yeah, no one gets physically addicted to cigars. They like the experience, the relaxation, the ritual. They're not hooked on the natural nicotine found in the cigars themselves.
@@porkypile I think plenty of people are physically addicted to smoking cigars. Some of it has to do with tolerance. Joe says in this video that he limits himself to the amount that doesn't make him feel sick, which in his case is one cigar per day, but plenty of people smoke way more, and even if one doesn't inhale, you are still putting higher amounts of nicotine in your system with each cigar throughout the day. I'm not looking to make a big argument about it though, just seems true to me.
@@AZ-kr6ff I smoked premium cigars daily for a long time, and I didnt get addicted. Honestly it was surprising that I could go weeks without smoking after going basically years every day. T
I would disagree that people smoke cigars for the nicotine. Most people I know, including myself, only smoke for the flavour. I age cigars for many years to minimize the nicotine content in them. I smoke a few a month during the summer and none during the other seasons. I'd say cigars are less addictive than sugar, caffeine or most other things we put in our bodies.
I've never been addicted to cigars. I can smoke one a day for a year or one every year. Never 'felt' the the 'must have one' urge. I think cigarettes are designed to make a person 'need' one.
Joe isnt 100% accurate, not everyone smokes them for the nicotine. Me personally, i love the tastes, all the different combinations of flavors that different cigars have and the smell of them is great. If i just wanted nicotine id just smoke cigarettes, but i dont touch those. Cigars give you so much more.
Cigarette companies have added ammonia to the tobacco and the homogenized tobacco to make the nicotine more powerful and addicting. They also have additives that lessen the throat hit of the nicotine so to speak so it is tolerable to the consumer. Cigars have a natural nicotine and a lot of it in fact is removed and lessened in intensity through the fermentation process of the leaves. And all premium hand rolled cigars are fermented.
@@wishunter9000 damn right retro. I use premium tobacco products, not paper chemical additives that consequently add many harms to the product. It was the covering of information for decades that is causing regulations to crash down without discrimination. HoW TrOLliSH oF yOu to attempt to discredit information without providing any argument with basis, Mr Reynolds.
@@wishunter9000There’s actually a few studies showing a disparity in cigar and cigarettes as it relates to lung cancer. They found that because you’re not supposed to inhale the smoke of the cigar, it decreases the chances of you developing lung cancer over cigarettes. Plus the lack of additives and chemical nonsense in cigars over cigarette. That’s why you see these 80-100 year old dudes who’ve been smoking cigars their whole life, still cancer free. According to the National Death Index: “There were 14,657 deaths from all causes, including 3426 never tobacco users, 3276 exclusive cigarette smokers and 176 exclusive cigar users. The latter had no statistically significant evidence of increased mortality from all causes, heart diseases, malignant neoplasms, cerebrovascular disease, smoking-related diseases or other causes. In contrast, the mortality experience of dual users of cigars and cigarettes and cigar smokers who formerly used cigarettes is similar to exclusive cigarette smokers.” Sure it’ll cause cancer, mostly oral cancer, but if you can inhale a cigar you’ve got bigger issues than cancer in my opinion.
They dont need to. The ammonia is there naturally if you just dont ferment the tobacco enough. Cigarette tobacco is not properly fermented leaving the ammonia in the product.
There is no objective measurement of how addictive something is. The feeling of addiction is dependent on the psychological experiences of people. A lack of proper emotional bonding during childhood (starting from being forced to sleep alone, crying themselves to sleep, at the age of 4-6 months, as it the overwhelming habit in most Western countries) has been shown to cause addictive behaviors, whereas proper emotional development has been shown to have the opposite effect. Due to my entourage in my teen and early adult years I have experimented with weed, hashish, cigarettes, and tons of alcohol, yet was always able to stop them at will. Haven't had weed or hashish in more than a decade now. I enjoy whiskey or gin 3-4 times a week, and a cigar every 3-4 days. Basically if you give a normal, healthy adult any hard drug, they should be able to not get addicted to it. Which explains the way most of what we consider highly addictive drugs have been used in traditional cultures (including weed, tobacco, ayahhuasca, and LSD), which is ritualic and NOT daily, and not addictive. Addiction is all dependent on the person. A traumatised person can get morbidly addicted to anything from sugar to watching cat videos, that doesn't make either any more addictive than the other. Anything that makes you feel good can be addictive, and highly so for people who crave emotional bonding at a very deep level.
Nicotine is not addictive… it’s the chemicals added to it that makes cigarettes so addictive. I don’t know a single cigar smoker who is addicted… as in craving a cigar.
Why is it so addictive? Because it makes you feel great! Same reason dogs, pizza, fish tanks, and holding hands is addictive! They all make you feel goooooood.
smoking a cigar while having a conversation is peak. or even just being outside on a patio and relaxing. but it’s definitely best at a round table of sorts.
In it for the taste and the 1-2 hours of peace of mind I feel smoking alone, or great conservation and bonding when I smoke with loved ones. I was able to not smoke cigars for 2 months and didn't feel stressed or had a craving for it. When I could afford them again, I bought a few and continued as if nothing changed.
The difference between cigars and cigarettes…you smoke cigarettes to fix a fit, you smoke cigars to relax and think of world domination or world peace🤣 - Coming from an ex cigarette smoker, quite 35 yrs ago to smoking cigars. I got into the cigar industry and owned a lounge.
@@josef.2415 Same, the sensation of suffocating rewired my brain. Then I rehabilitated my lungs with sports, and I can now enjoy the occasional smoke without the hangup of addiction. Happy accident I guess.
I must disagree with Joe. Most people DO NOT smoke cigars for the nicotine; yes the cigar smoker gets nicotine into his system from smoking cigars, but cigar smoking is not done for a fix. Cigars are in no way like cigarettes; cigar smokers, are not like cigarette smokers.
I smoke Nicaragua, Dominican Republic and Cuban cigars mostly for the taste and the aroma in my mouth and nose puffs. Same with pipe tobacco. I hate packed cigarettes 🚬🚬🚬. I just hate cigarettes.
@@OfficerBlobby no you can pull out great flavors out of a premium cigar if your palate can recognize it. Chocolate, coffee, tea, maple syrup, cedar sweetness, wood and etc. it’s like tasting different flavors in like tea, coffee, bourbon and wine.
Cigars are for taste. The tobacco leaf is what gives you the flavor along with the filler that is uses as well. And if smoked correctly, you won't get a buzz at all. If you get a buzz that the ammonia in the tobacco. That's why you don't inhaler. If you are smoking a cigar correctly. You can enjoy a few with out getting sick. Cigars are for flavor profile. So Joe got that all wrong with cigars. Needs a lesson from Arnold
Smoking a cigar is an art. You have to have the right cigar the right burn not to hot the right draw get the flavor in your mouth and blow it out before you taste the ash. Everything has to be right to realy enjoy the cigar.
@@dx3385 nah bro the buzz is real. I recently got into cigars and I’m already craving that feeling lol. Don’t get me wrong, the taste is awesome but after the buzz kicks in I just feel so relaxed it’s crazy
Ye mate, keep lying to yourself. They give you a decent amount of dopamine and what you call "buzz". Same thing as people saying, I don't drink to get drunk, I just like the taste. I smoke both cigars and cigarretes, among other things, but the taste isj just a bonus, I don#t crave the taste itself, I crave the state it gives me, same for alcohol.
I find cigars WAY less addicting than cigarettes. I can take or leave cigars. They're like a treat for me. But I don't crave them. I think all men should smoke cigars like in the old days, and hand them out to each other as gestures of goodwill and thanks.
Ive been smoking cigars for about 15 years, first smoked them when I was in the Military. Its my time to relax, reflect forget about the daily bullshit for the moment. Yea the flavor too.
I’ve been into cigars for about 30 years and luckily, I can stop whenever I want. I smoke a fair amount when I’m camping or hunting, something’s 3 a day which is expensive as hell. And then I can go mo this without smoking one. Same with alcohol. I usually just stop when it gets too expensive, which is why I buy top tier bourbon and cigars. I figure if it’s having a negative affect on my budget, I’m smoking/drinking too much.
1 or 2 cigars a day is probably more good for your mental health than it is bad for your physical health. If you don't inhale, you are side stepping the vast majority of the negative health consequences associated with tobacco. Sigmund Freud did die of mouth cancer, but he smoked 20+ cigars every day until he was in his mid 80s, which is basically all the waking time.
Too much water is bad for you, too much video games is bad, too much social media is bad. If you do everything in moderation then there's literally nothing to worry about
Self control is directly related to distraction. If your not thinking about something then it doesn't take willpower to resist. Get busy. Most addicts are always busy with something. Idel hands are a problem because willpower has no power. Distraction power.
That’s so true I’ve been trying to quit weed for years as corny as it may sound. I don’t do any other drugs but drink so the weed is really hard to quit. Been smoking almost daily since 14 and now 22. Whole I’m at work or doing anything I don’t even think to want to smoke and actually wouldn’t if it was offered. Soon as I get home and relaxing with nothing to do I’m back to smoking.
you say "addicts" like certain people are addicts and others not..this is never proven. It´s a myth there is a gen that addicts have and others don´t..maybe you did not mean this and im just fishing.
No. Some people have stronger addictive behaviors. Some are more and others are less responsive to the reward systems natural to us all. We are all addicts some more than others. @@danielabatabogdanov8586
“Wouldn’t it be awesome if cigarettes were good for you?” Bruh that’s how everyone during my grandmother’s era thought. My grandmother was born in 1922, and was a 3 pack a day cigarette smoker her whole life. She told me back in her era, the dangers of smoking were not yet well-known, as prior to the 1964 report by the US Surgeon General on smoking, tobacco companies had no trouble finding doctors who would promote smoking and say it had “health benefits.” My grandmother lived until she was 94 when she died of a stroke which the doctors said was caused by her years of smoking. I myself quit smoking 32 days ago as of today, I was a 2 pack a day man for over 20 years as I came of age in the mid 90s which was a time when every kid in my high school smoked cigarettes due to the ridiculous penalties at the time for possession of just a small amount of weed, also keep in mind that this was well before vaping became a teen trend. If Joe lived in the era my grandmother lived, I guarantee he wouldn’t just take up smoking lol 😂
@@silvio648 that’s what the doctors said. I personally don’t believe it, but cigarettes are a major cause of strokes, especially for someone who smokes 3 packs a day for over 50 years
I quit cigarettes easily. I'm addicted to David Goggins tho. It's easy as fuck to quit cigarettes. Super easy. Just do 10 push-ups every time u think of a cigarette
During my tenure in the military, I indulged in smoking cigarettes but ceased this habit roughly within the initial year of my marriage. Somewhere amid that period and the present moment, spanning approximately the last two decades, I adopted the practice of smoking cigars. It warrants mention for the unacquainted that the act of cigar smoking starkly contrasts with that of cigarette smoking, as the former typically does not involve inhalation of the smoke. In the era when I smoked cigarettes, lighting up was imperative to procure the desired dose of nicotine, irrespective of environmental conditions. Conversely, with cigars, such compulsive behavior is absent. I have experienced stretches of several weeks, and even an entire month, abstaining from cigar consumption. This abstinence does not stem from necessity but rather from choice, as my cigar indulgence is predicated not on a physiological dependency but rather on a desire to relish the relaxation and intricate flavors inherent to cigar smoking. Indeed, my affinity for cigars is rooted in the gustatory pleasure they afford.
I smoked cigarettes for over 25 years and tried quitting multiple times. 12 years ago I read a book and stopped smoking completely. I cannot imagine reaching for a cigarette ever again. The thought just turns me off. But I still smoke cigars daily.
You need to do some research. Cigarettes have TONS of additives that make them more addictive. There’s lots of studies that day nicotine is no more addictive than caffeine.
I tried Cigar once, the day after, it was like a layer of my mouth gum was falling off, like it was burned. Never got that from cigarettes, only bad smell, and annoying my teeth and of course phlegm. I think is should have let it cool down between puffs like you do with a pipe, that would take a lot of patience.
Yes, too much too fast. Cigars are supposed to be slow and gentle draws. Your side effects you had are too much and too hard-ends up not being relaxing and day after stinks. Try a smaller gauge and don’t draw so hard. Plus take time.
