It was insane to point this out back then at the time, too. Hindsight is 20/20 and a generation or two from now, who will they be looking back on in our current time like this? 🤔
@@OldHickory7 Eh, I listened to her like a year back and found her to be full of shit, but damn, I'm gonna remember her voice. Supposedly it's not her natural voice but she taught herself to speak like this.
@@IvanTre Rogan comment sections, and really most everywhere in the comment sections on RU-vid, is nothing but the same really fucking stupid comments. It's all brainless uncreative crap. Anything of substance is pushed to the ether. I would have liked to say that it is a conspiracy, but then again, humans really are fucking stupid. At the least, I wish they would could just recognize their stupidity, shut the fuck up, and let the smart people talk.
In the 9th grade, many years ago, our class had a substitute teacher frequently that year. He always would talk about WW2. He told us about being held in a prison camp. He showed the class numbers on his arm. He would walk up and down the rows showing us his arm. I didn't fully understand then, but understand now.
It's truly a harrowing surreal experience. I was (mental health) treating an older woman, just lovely and sweet. One day her husband came in to get her as we were wrapping up, and he was wearing a short sleeve button down shirt (summer time) and I saw his # tattoo. He didn't even realize it at all. I felt blown sideways because I was in the presence of a real live person who was THERE. In Auschwitz, tattooed. I very delicately asked him about it, and he was a total gem. He openly happily raised his arm like it was a cherry blossom tattoo and I only remember that I was being so careful about my words like I was treating him like tissue paper. I know ALOT about that period in time but to be suddenly in the presence of not one but 2 survivors (Ididn't know my client was one also) it REALLLLLY hit me hard how very real it all was. They were just the most loving gracious delightful ppl to ever meet. I can't imagine experiencing those yrs as they did in the camps and what they saw etc and here they are in the flesh in my office like they left it all behind. It was an experience I both cherish and will never forget
"Marijuana benefits" "DMT benefits" "Can a gorilla beat a bear" "Nazi's built rockets for USA" "DMT where to buy" "Charles Manson used by CIA?" "Pam Anderson nudes"(this one's a joke don't kill me) "Magic bullet theory is bullshit" "Ancient Civilizations destroyed by meteor impacts" "DMT in ancient civilizations" "Mushrooms" "Antikythera mechanism where to buy" "Aliens are real" "DMT"
indeed, they talk a lot of bullshit (even with her nice asmr voice). as if dueling scars would have been a Nazi insignia. even german resistance fighters had them...
The factory was in Nordhausen, not Berlin. My dad served as a Staff Sergeant in 1st Army, 804th MP’s in VII Corps, which was a Combat Military Police unit. He was in France fours hours before the invasion started, providing security for the 1st Engineer Special Brigade who were completing reconnaissance of German gun enplacements on the beaches of Normandy. During the actual invasion, under heavy fire, they succeeded in making contact with the 82nd Airborne and pushed onto St. Mere Eglise. His unit was among those within the First Army that liberated Camp Mittlebau-Dora in Nordhausen, where he arrested and interrogated “...the only NAZI (he) ever met” and located the bulk of the V-2 rocket plans before they fell into the hands of the Russians days later. He was awarded the Legion of Merit for his actions.
Any real man knows that a woman in her late 30s to early 50s is actually in her sexual prime. They really know what they want and they really know how to give. No bullshit or games.
I just watched a video of a private journalist interviewing the grandson of Van Braun. The fact that he had Van Braun's documented papers and information on Operation Paperclip. Included were the contracts from the US war Department.
Another semi famous survivor of a concertation camp was Robert Clary. His tatoo was A5174. He played corporal Louis Leboe on Hogans heros. Also a soap opera star,
l remember when l was a boy cutting grass for a Mrs. Finkler she was a lovely woman who always paid me well. That was in the 70's.She had the tattoo numbers on her wrist, l was about 14 years old and l asked her what they were. She fell silent then told me that her husband and children were all killed in a death camp in Germany, l didn't really understand at the time. l do now. All l remember about her that she was a kind old woman who gave me a slice of cake and a cup of tea when l finished cutting her grass. God love her !!!
I'm a nurse & i used to take care of an old lady who had a tattoo of some random numbers on her wrist. She said it was back from when she spent time in a Nazi concentration camp. It really hits you when you see something like that.
Rogan U, isn’t known for its Math or Spelling courses, but one can earn a Masters in Gorilla vs Bears, Have You Ever Done DMT?, or a special degree in LOOK INTO IT....
The Nazis are not a conspiracy theory, man. And if she's a government asset, why is she talking about this at all? Some conspiracy theories have validity, but some people just like cooking up stuff to seem more important than they really are.
Dean Murray she does have a nice voice, too bad it's echoing bullshit. She needs to brush up on German male culture of the late 19th, early 20th century. Saber fencing wounds were a mark of honor and fearlessness. The wounds were a result of not wearing a mask while facing your opponent. Flinching during a counter was considered extremely dishonorable. Accepting the outcome head on and taking responsibilty for failure. This is the reason that most upper echelon germans have this facial scar during the third Reich period. It was a proof of character. I have this scar, I just didn't pack it with horse hair. 😂
I live in Vienna and the dueling scars ("Schmiss" in German) can still be seen on people from time to time. During my time in the Austrian army, I saw many commanders who had these scars. By the way, the right-wing parties have their own clubs ("Burschenschaften"/fraternities), where dueling is still practiced.
The dueling scar isn’t a Nazi thing. It’s called the “Heidelberg scar” From the Heidelberg University - one of Europe’s oldest colleges. It is mentioned in Hamlet - it’s why Leartes, the guy who ultimately kills Hamlet is considered the best swordsman in Europe... because he’s Heidelberg’s champion. The Heidelberg scar was a symbol of status and honor in German aristocracy. Obviously that translated into Nazi hierarchy, especially among officers: same was true of ww1, and east Germany. So that’s why.
Thank you. She was obviously crap at researching her book. She didn't even know about the origins of the swastika so I'm beginning to think her "book" will have a lot of inconsistencies and exaggerations.
@@Wh1stle_03 That’s the thing. lots of people do this and it doesn’t matter the sex of the person they are doing it to or why (like it’s his freaking show) but if it’s a woman oooo mainsplaining. 🤦♂️
32:45 experiments 😭 👍 Fascinating interview! Came here after watching today's ☕☕ "coffee talk" with Dr. Kevin Zadai where he did a lot of name dropping and also mentioned JR interviewing Annie Jacobsen.
DroverChicago The Soviet Union probably knew it was pointless. Let someone else blow all that money & resources & then just check out the photos to see what it’s like up there.
Its crazy to think when i was a kid in the early 90s we had millions of ww2 vets and now we are down to thousands. I'm glad atleast now its easier than ever to preserve their stories.
its called "Mensur" and has been going on for hundreds of years in germanys universitiies fraternities. you can see a lot about it in some universities museums..like heidelberg etc. "Mensur" refers to a type of traditional academic fencing practiced at some European universities, particularly in German-speaking countries. It's a form of regulated, non-lethal duel that often involves students from certain fraternities or student organizations. Participants use specialized fencing swords, called "Schlager," with protective gear like goggles and metal helmets to prevent serious injuries. The aim isn’t to cause harm but to demonstrate courage, skill, and honor. It has historical and cultural significance within certain university societies, although its practice has declined over the years due to safety concerns. the nazis didnt invent it.. they just kept doing it ..
My grandfather was a polish scientist that was captured by Nazi's and moved to Germany. He was forced to do research for them until the allies ended the war. USA put him on a navy boat with my grandma and that's how my family got to America. Recently found the manifest for the us navy boat that carried them from Bremerhaven Germany to Ellis island.
My grandfathers brother fought in WW2. He actually shared and spoke of every detail with his son on what he went though as a soldier. He brought back memorabilia, magazines, pictures of the trench etc. He stayed with a man who owned a boot company when he went to Germany. Hitler approached this man to make his armys boots for him. This man would tell the story of hitler testing the boots with a pistol on the factory. I saw a picture of hitler in this factory along with the family. It was very surreal!! This son went back and toured every place his father stayed and fought. He said it was such an emotional journey.
@@aurora3067 unfortunately yes. I was revived both times after flatlining for some time. Scariest thing I’ve ever been thru walking up and seeing people around you not knowing what is going on
@@aurora3067"Did it make you more or less religious?" i saw a toast praying... and toasts are usually dead, unless they're alive... so that should answer your question
Can we appreciate the fact that Jamie knows exactly when to intervene while also not ruining the flow of conversation. I’ve seen so many interviews where the interviews just can’t interrupting the guest.
@@stitchgrimly6167 he was off by a couple of years, who cares? He’s not a historian he’s a podcast producer and he does his job very well. This comment isn’t talking about his historical accuracy or his grand knowledge base. It’s talking about how good he is it being a podcast producer. Get over yourself, you don’t have to always find something wrong with everything
Oh, this is an old video but I don’t know if anyone mentioned, but dueling scars is in that song I forget the name boy from New York City or something like that
LOL What is there to be uncovered? Everything was literally in everyones face. Its not like the newspapers, or radios back in the days didn't report on the fact that the chief of Nasa is a german. The only thing that should be uncovered is the fact that americans literally cant do anything and have to import/steal knowledge and capability from other countries.
This 23:39 is why all students in public education (private schools are by definition already ethically lost) regardless of career path need a deep and broad humanistic education young. Not only does it facilitate crucial critical thinking skills but it embeds the seed of ethics, which far too many lack today.
It can be argued, and had been (though ignored in these wayward times), that any gains made of inequity are not gains at all they merely appear as such to the equally wayward.
I lived in Argentina in the mid and late sixties. Our next door neighbors were Dutch. They had been part of the Dutch Resistance. Our pediatrician was a German who was the pediatrician to the SS. He did a year as a War criminal. The Dutch people’s daughter started dating the pediatrician’s son. You have never seen a family so upset.
It's disturbing to not hear either person acknowledge how any 'normal' person today is susceptible to propaganda and programming in the same way regular Germans were way back then. By refusing to see that potential in ourselves we fail to guard against it ever happening again. It takes less than you'd think for societies to unravel in this way, into mass delusion and the depravity resulting from dehumanising certain grouos.
Yeah pretty much the same thoughts that run through my head everytimw I see a comment poking fun at germany or belittling the people of Germany. I don't make commemts like that anymore tho. If america doesnt want to listen to immigrants from countries like German Russia Venezuela, and just hand their freeedoms away while sipping their Starbucks coffee in their favorite turtle neck sniffing their own farts, by all means. And in the mean time yall can make jokes like haha lederhosen ja 🤣 und kill all jews haha those crazy Germans.
Well said, a brilliant comment. It is curious that Joe Rogan and guest did not discuss Germany’s enormous and effective use of propaganda in the 30s and during the war. I am highly concerned and worried about the present use of propaganda and censorship in American media and government.
The fucked up part is that the evil they did back then is so obvious to us now but since it's known that we study their tactics how are we supposed to know what they're poisoning our minds with when our "leaders" keep their true objectives so hidden. I just try to stand up against anything I don't find natural but not specifically because of this but because alot of shit just doesn't feel right but just because of how society always seemed to follow so many trends blindly
Joe doesn’t immerse himself into the political world. You really have to pay attention to notice the platitudes and the small steps towards tyranny that we take. Joe would probably agree with most state involvement of the culture, not realizing where these steps take us. What’s sad is that the majority of Americans have the same mindset. Politics are too important to just casually pay attention.
I saw an interview of somebody one time a long I saw an interview with somebody that was in a parade and he said that the crowd was going wild it was huge noise all around but in 100ft of Hitler there was very little noise it was silent around around Hitler there was no noise that gave chills.
As a German, let me explain the scars. They fenced for their fraternities. Some of German fraternities require their members to perform academic fencing. Nowadays, the required number is 3 or more „fencing duels“ called Mensur. It’s supposed to be a sort of initiation rite. You face someone and fence with them. You’re supposed to stand still and keep your composure. Reacting out of fear like moving your head away and so means that you didn’t pass. It’s not really meant as competition. However, academic fencing isn’t some Nazi hobby. It existed before them and still exists to this day. It was an activity among academics. As a significant portion of academics at the time ended up being Nazis there’s obviously a portion of Nazis that had these scars. She was right that people in the past would use horse hair, sand or salt to prevent the scar from healing as it was a sign that you were an academic. Usually, that’s not the case anymore. Googling Schmiss or Mensur might show you some videos.
Kaltenbrunner did fencing, his fraternity moved from Vienna to Deggendorf. There are fraternities who do not mandate fencing, such as catholics, usually German national or deitschnationale fraternities are very strict. And you have to hold a speech and learn knowledge on fraternities. The elder gentlemen Alte Herren can reject your speech if it does not meet the standards. In each semester they hold celebrations when they gather and share wine and beers wearing tux looking smart in ties.
My dad told me of his stories of his experience of WW2 in Germany, he was 8 years old. He told me he was kidnaped in Gelsenkirchen and taken to a training camp in Austria to train for war, he was there for about 4 years before. He said that everyone there was left to their own devices, to make his way back home. He had to travel 900km on his own for 3 months, find food from Americans, transport and shelter along the way. He also recalls troops from military forces from Poland and Russians shooting at him call out die nazi. He survived and it took him months to return home to nothing.
Years ago I used to go to a Doctor who had survived the concentration camps. The Nazi’s considered him useful because he was a medical doctor and could care for the slave laborers until they couldn’t work anymore and were summarily killed. His wife and children were separated from him and sent to another camp and they told my Doctor that his family was being “cared for”. When his concentration camp was finally liberated by American GI’s he went on a search for his family. Eventually he discovered that the Nazi’s has gassed his entire family about a week after they took them away. He was a wonderful Doctor, but he was a very angry and bitter man. 😔
I went to the Holocaust Museum a long time ago. They had walls blocking certain photos with viewing slots that were high enough so children couldn't see the absolutely horrific photos. The pictures were beyond evil. The fact that they could be that awful is terrifying.
At 16 years old, my son and I took a week long trip to D.C. He is quite hearty and pushes limits (he is a runner and asked me whether he could run by himself around the Mall at 9:30p). The only time he shied away from anything during the trip was at the Holocaust Museum. A taller (3-4 ft.) wooden structure was in a portion. It housed a sunken TV screen showing footage of the medical experiments performed on the Jews. It was horrific but he asked, "Can we go please?" before me. As we walked into the next exhibit, he said, "I'm sorry. I just couldn't take it anymore."
Operation A team when i moved to Mississippi in class this dude would take a paperclip and bend it into a triangle. When you dropped it on the table it would spring forward
I just finished listening to Annie's two books "Area-51" and "Phenomena", both well worth your time. Annie reads her own books, and has a very pleasant voice. I'm looking forward to "Operation Paperclip" soon.
@@christopherm5958 Her interpretation of the declassified material is always going to be subject to correction based upon how well it corroborates with other information that comes out. However, if you can find other journalists who have done similar investigative work on declassified material, I'd be interested.
@no longer human Getting paid to publicize her books would be great. But I admit, their might be more at work than just a profound appreciation for the quality of her published research.
I really enjoyed this episode And this journalist is absolutely amazing ,intelligent and beautiful And her voice is soothing and beautiful Its her inside voice
