What a fucking travesty and joke that is being made of in the US right now. Like Trump or hate him, the uniparty New World Order is steamrolling the US justice system just to silence one man
I have always thought of Adams defense of the British Soldiers charged with murder in the Boston Massacre as a proud moment in American history. An illustration of what our country should be, and can be. What it truly means to be American.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence”. This line is so important in times like these.
Alan..that's what makes this early American's stand so much more special...I will never defend the war crimes of my countrymen....but they did not occur in a vacuum..it does not excuse them..but it might help explain them..
Stories I've head about John Adams paint him as one of the most arrogant, stubborn, and frustrating men imaginable. But it must have take balls like few could imagine to put himself in this position.
He had some great and not so great qualities, from what I have read. All the founders had their issues, just like all of us today. I enjoy reading about these people, and how they were able to found this wonderful experiment in governance, even with their flaws.
I loved reading his diary about this time he and Ben Franklin had to share a small inn room because the town was all booked up. They argued about keeping the window open or closed most of the time and although Adams thought Franklin was wrong he respected his intellect too much to not hear all his arguments. It's a great little story.
@@bluekitty3731 Chris Hemsworth was excellent as James Hunt in Rush. Of course, James Hunt was a very athletic, charismatic and handsome racing driver. A leading man role indeed. Paul Giamatti is a character actor. I believe character actors are the most versatile and talented performers in the world.
@@chanboonyee6788 So? Daniel Day-Lewis isn't American, but did you rail in all caps when he played Lincoln? Brits, Aussies, et al. play American characters all the time these days; do you point that out as well? Where do you draw the line? Does an actor have to be from Cleveland if he's portraying someone from Cleveland? It's called acting for a reason.
Facts doesn't care about feelings. You can cry, whine, and screech all you want, but the evidence still stands proof to truth. That's how stubborn it could be, same reason why many people hate it. It puts all their evil and humiliation to light.
facts are stubborn things, but if you don't have all the facts the facts you do have can be misleading you. we almost never have all the facts. This is the great failing of our justice system, it relies on having the facts, and we almost never have all the facts. and almost never are all the facts we DO have presented in court.
They do take into account the feelings of those involved. Facts are important, but to not take into account surrounding circumstances that bring into being those facts, such as the emotions, actions and words taken by those involved is to simply have part of the picture. Before you inevitably misquote me as is wont to do on the internet, consider for a moment that context can give clues. John Adams defended what he FELT was right. After all, it was not like defending a murderer. In a modern context, if one of those soldiers killed someone, be with purpose or on accident, it should be demanded that charges be levied against him, as with a protester who goes to far. Facts care about feelings even here as Adams shows that he understands that there is good reason to be indignant, but in the end, by examination to the best of knowledge what occurred, both parties can bring about a fair trial, punishing justly those soldiers who actually did kill, out of malice or by accident, members of the public and citizens of Massachusetts, a colony subject to the British Empire, whose peace they were supposed to protect and ensure according to local circumstances and the laws of the colony and the British Parliament, be it if she had passed laws that were to take effect in the colonies, whose legal system was shared with and binding in the British domain. Facts can resolve a public outrage, facts can take down corrupt individuals such as Trump (among others, I know that there are more). Facts certainly care.
His wife, Abigail Adams, nee Smith, was brilliant and very tough. Her counsel and contribution to her husbands success is difficult to measure. "If we mean to have heroes, statesmen and philosophers, we should have learned women." Abigail Adams
A good woman can force a man, if need be, to become a tough, strong and reliable individual. Not because of pressure or obligation, but an expression of gratitude to life and to God for having a good wife to remind you of what a good man can do and accomplish by listening to a proper counsel.
Captain Preston was by all surviving accounts a good man and able officer. The events of March 5, 1770 were forced upon him when his acting superior officer, a teenage boy whose father had purchased his commission was not up to the task of protecting the soldiers in addition to handling the growing mob. Captain Preston joined his besieged soldiers on King St knowing he was in an impossible & explosive situation. During the trial many townspeople attested to his affable personality.
***** the word taigs means Catholics. many aristocrats is not Adams.you have to remember this is the 1700's and the English had many conflicts with the Irish and most colonist were from England.. the word racist is becoming a foolish buzz word for people that simply don't understand much imo.... it's really becoming quite tiresome as well as meaningless to thinking people the whole world over
***** I just want to point out that without the use of punctuation you ended up saying that John Adams was Irish... and said America wouldn't be were it was today without him... Grats!
@Just Jeff You heard about that too, huh? I tried to find information about his criminal record, but not many people were sharing it. I finally found it through this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V5WD9mX5dOg.html Here's the article: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html The Daily Mail tries to keep people from using ad blockers, but you could probably get around it somehow. In Safari, you can open Reader View and see the whole article just fine. Apparently, •in 2007, he and five other men robbed a woman's home with a gun, while she was home, for money and drugs; •in the early 2000s, he had a bunch of cocaine possession convictions; •in 2002, he spent a month in jail for a month for criminal trespassing; •in 1998, he committed some kind of armed theft; •and a little before that, he had some other theft and drug charges. But he was apparently reformed by 2014 and turned into a generally respectable person. If you haven't already, you should read that article. It's pretty interesting.
The police are not meant to be the judge, jury and executioner. He did not deserved to be killed in the street like an animal, no matter what he had done in the past.
This series is breathtaking and i find nearly no flaws in it. The sets, the costumes, the b-roll, the accents all make my brain convinced I’m in the 1770s
This moment, right here, defending your enemy in court, understanding that justice and passion must be separate, is what truly proves that America was ready to govern herself.
Unfortunately Christian Nationalists, MAGA Trumplican Neo Confederate fascists and lunatic hyperleft forces are all out there testing our system...with unreasonable passion for the radical, the make-believe & a aggressive mob.
"On the one hand it is inexorable to the cries and lamentations of the prisoners; on the other it is deaf, deaf as an adder to the clamors of the populace." Rule of law is the one of the best creations of mankind.
+Scott Germanicus Then give credit to the individuals who created the system, not the entire race. You racist fuck. Adams himself was antislavery. End of discussion.
@@flowerlandfilms Man did not create himself. Self-evident truths found acknowledged in this county's founding documents and serving still as the basis of human rights is a citation for you on that. You're welcome.
One of Adam’s finest moments. He risked it all standing on principles and the rule of law despite the anti-British fervor in Boston at the time. Thank goodness he sided with America in the end.
With politics today and the heated discussion over police brutality, this really hits home. Where have the politicians like this have gone? Look at the corrupted leaders we have today
Awkwardly enough, it was the REMOVAL of these very same rights the soldiers relied on here from the colonists that started the chain of events that led to the Revolution.
I agree,John Adams was one of the best lawyers this country has ever had. Fast forward to the 1800's,and Francis Scott Key was as well. But there are probably other good ones that I may not know about yet. Will have to look into this to learn more. But we definitely need more John Adams type of lawyers today.
Great respect for taking and producing such a brilliant defense of those Soldiers. He's right about popular opinion and an excess of passion being dangerous to lives of both sides let alone the credibility of the grievences.
As of writing, we’re nearing the end of the Rittenhouse trial. I had to return to this court masterpiece. The accused should be judged solely on the evidence produced at court, and the jury put themselves in his shoes. The mainstream media will have you believe it’s a Vs match between the political ideology of Rittenhouse and the rioters, with the media outlets using them as their political toy soldiers. This seems so civilised, and a complete world away. May the United States not forget, and continue to be a bastion of freedom, and envy of the world. The founding fathers were the most fallible whilst simultaneously being the most wise and self awared of man.
In some of my erstwhile circles, a disconcerting number of people expressed such high-minded sentiments about the conduct of the Rittenhouse trial, and then went back to speaking of the need for Balkanization and tearing down the system after seeing the results of the Chauvin trial. If only this integrity was more often appealed to with something like consistency.
John Adams was a smart obnoxious loud dude, he was really hated by a lot of his colleagues. The people of Boston especially. Growing up, he was a farmer, and he was told repeatedly that he didn't have a future. He grew up, became a lawyer, was elected as a colonial representative, became Vice President of the U.S, and then became president. I know I most likely will never have a future like his, but what I do know is that just because people now think my beliefs are stupid, I will have the respect of people in the future.
People think flat earthers are stupid now...I doubt they'll be vindicated any time soon. Ridicule now doesn't necessarily lead to accolades in the future.
Being thought stupid by the masses is necessary, but not sufficient. If they think you are stupid that does not necessarily make you smart. But if they think you are smart that DOES make you stupid...
Paul Giamminti killed it in this mini series. The part that I really liked, was his and Jefferson’s relationship. Probably the most important for the founding of the country, along with Franklin.
This scene should be played in the White House, in Congress, in every State Legislature, and on every news program, and it should be repeated as often as necessary until everyone understands, believes, and acts on its truth. Facts ARE stubborn things.
The HBO movie is not accurate. 2 of the men who did fire got manslaughter 2nd degree instead of murder. Because they were respected soldiers (like we respect ours today) they got their thumbs flattened by a hammer for reacting too quickly. The rest were found innocent
@Timothy Gibney They had their thumbs branded, not flattened. They escaped death by pleading benefit of clergy, which meant that they could read and write. Flattening their thumbs would have made it difficult for them to write.
...and they were aquitted. He was brilliant. Proud to be an American. We're in big trouble with the curbing of voting rights. God help our young republic.
It would have been amazing if we’d had modern stenographers back then. That way, will be able to read for ourselves the argument that won an acquittal for Adams’s clients, from what must have been a hostile jury.
‘A sentry’s post is his castle, and to attack it by English law is an illegal act. Soldiers so assaulted may defend themselves to the death.’ I wish ignorant tourists remember that when mocking the Queens Guard.
Emphasized in the miniseries more than by McCullogh's book, as was the indignity of the kings Intolerable Act to call accused to England for trial, since none can be obtained in the Colonies, supposedly.
Before taking any public office all citizens should be required to view this passage and then be tested upon same. Anyone not scoring 100% is disqualified from holding public office. FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS...
I will say this.. I have seen a lot of comments on John Adams BEING a history buff~.. but besides.. GW, LINCOLN, ROOSEVELT , JFK.. AND MY FAVORITE REAGAN... John Adams DOES NOT GET enough credit in history book or what have you on making this independence happen~.. he might of been stubborn , arrogant, hard-headed, etc... but.. it takes a man like that to get a point a across and still love this country without a agenda.. bk then they were trying to make a better life for themselves.. without a agenda~... we all need to get bk to that... and with the presence of GOD in our lives... * MY OPINION*
Cesare Bonesana di Beccaria, Marquis of Gualdrasco and Villareggio (1738-1794), of Milan, Italy. The Marquis of Beccaria as quoted here, wrote those words in his work in 1764. "Dei delitti e delle pene" = "On Crimes and Punishments", considered one of the founding documents of criminal law. First English translation was 1767. And the Boston Massacre was 1770.
Loved the actor who played John Adams. A very shameful act on our part when British soldiers opened fire on civilians, but he actually did achieve a good verdict at the end of the trial.Sadly,the acquittal didn't make him popular, but he still emerged as an American hero of the Revolution. Even with me being English, I would have loved to have met John Adams.
Adams did have a point though. The sentries were guarding their post's. The crowd became hostile, then violent. Throwing things at the soldiers, threatening to knock them down. There was not a man among them that did not come away with some scrape, cut or bruise. In those circumstances, any man would fear for their life. Soldiers are trained to all force necessary to defend themselves. The only shameful thing was the events that lead to British soldiers being placed in Boston. And to that, there were many mistakes made on both sides of the pond.
Looking at the current state and direction of this country as the saying goes the founding fathers must be turning in their graves. An absolute deviation from the vision they had.
Adams believed strongly in the rule of law, not passion or tyranny. One of the most distinctive things about the American Revolution was the fact that it was not merely the American colonists rising up against the Crown. It was the American GOVERNMENT rising up against the Crown. Most rebellions have had leaders in history, but leaders only, not an actual, formal, functioning government. The American colonists were not rebelling against the rule of law, but the rule of BRITISH law. And unlike some rebellions, they did not wait to see if they won the war before founding a new government, they founded one and THEN went to war to defend it. Despite being rebels, there were laws and rules of conduct enforced upon the American citizenry, militia and Continental forces by their own government. And that, in large part, contributed to the success of the Revolution.
Angry mob storming a government building yelling about killing the guards. Guards forced to open fire and kill one of the mob. All of this is sounding very familiar somehow
"On the one hand it is inexorable to the cries and lamentations of the prisoners; on the other it is deaf, deaf as an adder to the clamors of the populace." Someone should have told that to Minneapolis.
