JOHN FLORIO VS NASHE & GREENE: WAS HE THE "ITALIANATE PEN"?

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John Florio vs. Thomas Nashe: The Real Target of Their Literary Feud Revealed
The literary feud between John Florio and Thomas Nashe is one of the most heated rivalries in the Elizabethan era. Traces of their quarrel are evident in nearly every publication by both men. In this video, we delve into the famous accusations surrounding Robert Greene's Groatsworth of Wit, where Nashe targets an "upstart crow" - a figure often linked to Shakespeare due to his dark complexion and claims of plagiarism.
But the real intrigue begins two years earlier, in Menaphon (1589), where Nashe attacks an anonymous grammarian, translator, and "Italianate" plagiarist. Who was this mystery man? In 1591, John Florio published Second Fruits as a direct response to these harsh criticisms, providing the most compelling evidence that he was the true target behind Nashe and Greene’s slander.
Watch this video to uncover the full story of Nashe’s attacks, Florio’s sharp rebuttals, and the historical proof that the Italianate pen under fire was, in fact, John Florio himself.
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@abbietyler7868 День назад

Your erudition is truly remarkable! The way you navigate these complex stories between Nashe and Florio with such passion and a touch of irony makes them not only accessible but incredibly engaging. I wish I had a teacher like you-someone who breathes life into historical and literary debates with such fresh energy. The Shakespeare authorship question has long needed a voice like yours, someone capable of bringing a new wave of thought to the narrative. Your ability to blend depth, humor, and insight is nothing short of inspiring. Keep bringing your unique perspective, it's exactly what these discussions need!

@rodolfoboraso2330 День назад

One of the most famous literary attacks. Florio defends himself with literary jabs and words that somehow mask his true identity: that of a theater enthusiast and translator of the finest and most erudite. Once again Marianna takes us on a journey to the boundaries of time and history. Congratulations for the astute explanations

@gabrielevalentini-l6z День назад

The Shakespeare authorship question has always interested me but lately I've become really fascinated by Florio. It's frustrating that not many people are talking about him, since most anti-Stratfordians focus on De Vere or Bacon....but I feel like that's starting to change? especially now that Florio is getting more attention. I'm glad you're highlighting the Florio/Shakespeare connection and giving us a more complete picture. It would be great if more people in the SAQ community recognized Florio-he’s barely ever mentioned!

@speculartheatre3818 16 часов назад

eccitantissimo mix esplosivo! complimenti

@marask3668 День назад

I believe Yates was aware that Florio and Nashe were not friends, but she refrained from stating it explicitly, as it would have revealed that Florio was the target of their critiques. I'm pleased to see the truth finally coming to light; Florio is central to the debate over Shakespeare's authorship.

@MrAbzu День назад

The man with the words wrote the book. The man had to publish a bilingual dictionary in 1611 to coin many of the words into the English language used in writing the book. In a time when arguments took place in writing at a glacial pace of years and decades it is inconceivable that anyone else other than John Florio could have had an easy familiarity with his newly translated words to have published many of them some 12 years later in the First Folio. How much is borrowed and how much is original is open to mostly, evidence free speculation. Meanwhile, the Stratfordians would have us believe that Shylock the moneylender wrote Shakespeare. SAQ looks like an exercise in trying to prove that anyone other than the actual author of the First Folio wrote those words. I could not agree with you more.

@chancecolbert7249 12 часов назад

Germane to this video: If Florio is WS, why is LLL making fun of Florio? Why is it praising Nashe? Yates would wonder the same thing. Just curious if you've ever read LLL? Seems like y'all got it all sown up with your fancy Florio theory, so surely there's an answer for this? Or are we gonna reference his dictionary one more time for good measure? Michael your take is becoming the most oversimplified iteration of the SAQ on the net. I dig the gusto and love for Florio and surely he is important, but this endeavour of yours is getting Sisyphean. We need to respond to the questions if we want to call it an answer.

@resolutejohnflorio 6 часов назад

@@chancecolbert7249 shakespeare was not making fun of florio in LLL 😂😂😂 the whole play contains sources either of florio or of bruno because it was co written by Florio!

@chancecolbert7249 13 часов назад

Hey Mari! So Groatsworth still doesn't seem relevant and seems like a stretch. Shake-scene is meaningless as a reference to Shakespeare in 92--the name does not yet exist. The attack was and is an atack on someone who played in H6 and was constantly pilfering Marlowe--this is Edward Alleyn. While the reference in Menaphon does seem to point to Florio, I have some issues with saying Nashe and Florio are forever rivals. 1) It's Harvey that Nashe seems to care about most. 2) As Yates herself says many times, Florio and Nashe seem to be on the same side in several quarrels. You are pitching all of these ephemeral quarrels as static and permanent factional rifts, but Yates herself shows Florio and Nashe aligned against Hugh Sanford. Yates also confutes this whole discussion by saying WS seems to largely be attacking Harvey/Florio in LLL and does seem to be praising Nashe. "It is in my opinion, undoubtedly true, that he [Florio] is one of the people whom this oblique satire attacked." (P 21) Plenty more quotes like this. Just wondering how we are supposed to resolve this info with your hypothesis. And more generally, not sure if isolating Florio from Nashe and Greene and company is going to help resolve these issues...Contrary to your statements circa 13:00 mark, seems to me there is indeed something deeper going on, we haven't even mentioned Eliot or Harvey or Fulke or Mary or Lyly--this surely isn't just personal rivalry between Nashe and Florio. I mean Yates seems to say as much. I may have missed it, but I've read through Yates's Study on LLL, and I don't remember any mention of Greene's Menaphon but I could be wrong. Feel free to drop a quote from Yates if you have one handy.

@resolutejohnflorio 6 часов назад

@@chancecolbert7249 Harvey defended Florio and he was a friend of Florio, both were against Nashe! Nashe and Florio were never friends, now it is FULL DOCUMENTED and I won’t repeat what I have always said in the video where I have explained everything. if you believe so, I’m sorry you are wrong! 😂, I’ll keep making more and more videos about Florio, the truth is finally coming out. you should be prepared for it.🌝