John Lydon - "Have the government lost the war on drugs?" question (Question Time, 5.7.12) 

Or maybe it’s time to realise Peter Pan was fictional and that it’s time to grow up?

That dude was talking crap.

Haha!

lol 😆

Totally agree with you! I absolutely love John. He's the most honest, intelligent and wittiest man.

yes, yes, yes, maybe, definitely

Definitely maybe RKID

If heroin is legal I might have a taste

Rubbish.

Congratulations on making a far more coherent argument than that moron John Lydon. And I mean that , I’m not taking the piss. Frankly I think this wannabe intellect is more confused than the most damaged of acid casualties. I agree with decriminalisation; allow people to find out for themselves if they wish. And I will refer to the cliché argument about alcohol - if it was a recently developed substance it would be a class A , up there with crack and heroin, as it is so dangerous. Legalise everything and tax it. To me that spells progress and not degeneration

Please enlighten me… I really don’t understand what he’s saying or even what his point is in this debate. Repeatedly saying “education” and “information” wasn’t very helpful. But you are clearly able to follow his argument, so I’d be very grateful if you could help me out here.

@@scinformation7229 that was 1992

Accusing someone of not understanding drug addiction on the basis of being “middle class” is about as detached from earth as this so called “man of the people” could possibly get.

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I know I loved that bit certainly got her told snob.

😂😂😂😂

Lydon

Not really. Most people are less trusting to suit and ties.

They are certainly not the most addictive

@@Tas896 your deluded

I know! Look at what alcohol has done but no talk of making it illegal.

They hate us working class people , middle ass and upper ass people looking down on us like dogs because they live this " I have money I must show it" lifestyle 🤷‍♂️ absolute wankers

Thank you for your service

@@DXmYb Absolutely enjoyed every moment of it.

She realised she was a psychopath and for the first time it scared her

Straight up facts. I got a peanut allergy which can kill me. Are they gonna ban peanuts because it can kill me? No they are not. It is my job to stay away from peanuts. Same with cannabis and other drugs. If you know you can't handle it, stay TF away from it. Simples.

an people die in wars they dont off marijuana

It's a war on the tax free income and profits made that the government don't get their hands on.

That's some heavyweight truth right there... You can't just google information on drugs, like dosage, and timescales of effects. You have to pass 15 flashy, professional looking www.xyzaddition.com websites that are full of dangerous factual errors, and say little more than "here's a bit of info, come to our detox centre". If you don't know what reputable source you're looking for, it's hard to find. A website permanently giving safe dosage guidance is invaluable, while utter rubbigh like TALK TO FRANK gives you some pessimistic effects, pessimistic and extensive side effects, and some user stories that just make the drug sound mediocre. It's terrifying to realise as someone (slightly) skilled in pharmacology and dose manmagement, that with the best will in the world, everyone around me (friends and aquantances alike) was guessing tiny amounts of powders but eye, without even knowing how much they were attampting to take... let alone thinking about the purity of the substance. If you don't make it easy to be safe, people die. If you know that 150mg of MDMA is a solid dose, but have no clue what your 220mg pill will do, you make poor decisions. If no one ever tells you that waiting almost 2 hours without feeling a thing isn't unheard of, people guess and pop another pill after an hour. After 2 horus, they pop another. 10 minutes later, 660mg of MDMA makes them feel seriouisly unwella at best, possibly critically/lifethreateningly unwell. It is nothing short of unforgivable to not make simple information unavailable. Pure MDMA, taken at a known dosage is safer than a few hundred miles driving on country lanes. You will never overdose on a known amount of a pure drug, and "bad reactions" are almost unheard of. Impure black market drugs of unknow purity are the onyl reason for drugs being risky when used safetly.

I remember getting told this stuff at like 11 as well, and never again. I think it should be really enforced around 15-18 the ages where it's really around you

+Bob Lawblawblaw exactly mate nobody has the right to tell me what to put in my own body.

Too true, you can always find 'statistics' to back up your argument.

+Anton Haq 100% of people who smoke weed just once in their lifetime will die. Think about that.

Peadar Films 100% of people who eat Heinz baked beans once in their lifetime will die also.

Fangsonofgreatfang and don’t get started on the toilet paper epidemic

That's a knowing laugh, trust me.

Give me a wonderful deep meditation 🧘

+John O`Neill I think class is a big issue! Your either a chav or you don`t exist!

Mark Ant rather irreverent but thanks for your input

The information is already out there. Just look at Hamilton's Pharmacopoeia on the Vice channel or Breaking Bad. Rock stars have died from Heroin overdoses for a long time. Human Traffic talked about the dangers of Ecstacy.

Yes Nia my girl, Where are you from?

Not being funny, but I think even McDonalds would find it hard to employ someone with that in their background check and potential criminal record, let alone sectors of the government.

It also implies the people *on* drugs are winning the fucking war! How fucked up is that?

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