John MacArthur vs. Valter Veith on the sabbath 

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@@nonconformist4802 ty for showing us the demonic spirit you carry.

@@toddarcand6002 Thanks for your opinion, but as we all know by this time, OPINIONS DON'T COUNT The real problem is that your denomination was conceived in hell, preaching a cursed gospel and followed a fake Jesus, and on top of that we have you, who is to spiritual blind to realized it.

the sda churches coming under attack by satan sadly

Her writing equal to scripture, is what John said.

I now see Babylonian/ Roman symbolism everywhere!!! Veith is right.

@@joshuastavos4376in In Washington DC all the government buildings are of Roman influence, looks just like Rome, and they are now being controlled by the Roman Catholic Church Papacy.

These Sabbath keepers are obsessed with the mission to bring all of Christianity and the entire world Under the *"ministration of death and condemnation engraved in stones"* 2Cor. 3:8-9 and *the letter that "killeth"* (vs.6) of the law engraved in the tablets of stone! (2 Cor. 3 ), called the *"Ministration of DEATH"* , and the *"Ministration of condemnation"* VS 8-9 and use Christ's name to do it!

He is a disciple of Satan doing Satan's work deceiving many.

I love brother Walter, am blessed to be with him here on earth to witness the last truth of prophecy ❤❤

AMEN!!!!

Glory to God, Amen! Welcome into the family of God. May God continue to order your steps in His word.

I didn't have trouble with Ellen White after I read bible about prophets

PRAISE GOD. MUCH BLESSINGS

The Sabbath is true praise God im a seventh day adventist

Some say that Jesus was talking about keeping his teachings not the Ten Commandments I’m unsure what Christ meant when he said this

GOD'S COMMANDMENTS R NOT CONFINED TO THE 10 SAYINGS GIVEN AT SINAI

@@Faithful1 Jesus was a Sabbath keeper and the disciples kept and taught others to keep the Sabbath.

@@charnelallan7159 Please explain

Rev. 14:12-20

Who was he talking to? Old Testament people or New Testament? Where is that passage about sabbath remembrance found?

The old and new testament is the complete Bible the law of God is binding all men not only for the old testament time.

Who did he tell to remember the sabbath day to keep it holy? Exodus 20 vrs 1 I am the lord ur God who brought u out of Egypt out of the house of bandage. Tell me we're u enslaved in Egypt ?

​@@MichaelSmith-wh7ld2nd corinthians 3 6 for christ have made us able ministers of the new covenant not the letter which killeth but of the spirit which gives life

Aaaaamen!!

Did you read James 2:10?

I agree with sir John Macarthur! Ask me why?

@@asormullet7176 the good thing is that no one asks you why and so it should remain so

@@asormullet7176 the Bible says why, "they perish because they refuse to receive the love of the truth and so be saved", that's why you agree with John MacArthur.

​@@asormullet7176 did you read also Mark 2:27,28? Are you a human?

Shhh, don't mention that. No body ever wants to hear that. Then they wouldn't be able to call them a cult. What a convenient way of making an excuse to not keep the 4th commandment! McArthur is not the first person I've seen use the cult card to try to settle the Sabbath argument.

WHY DO U NEED A LESSER LIGHT TO POINT U TO THE GREATER LIGHT. ITS LIKE USING THE TORCH TO FIND THE SUN

@@charnelallan7159 Most of the world is in complete darkness and happy to be there because they don't know any better. They could do with some light. If that helps them discover there is a bigger light (the sun) how is that a bad thing? Is it better to leave them in complete hopelessness? Not aware of the bigger light?

​A classic line from ur SOP when she commanded her gullible followers to by her book THE GREAT CONTROVERSY. ITS illlogical to think one needs à lesser light to point to à light that is greater WAT THEN IS THE PURPOSEOF A LIGHT THAT IS GREATERI IN NEED OF A LESSER LIGHT TO MAGNIFYIT. THATS CULTIC. The same line used by ur nemesis THE RCC. Citing Mary is their lesser light pointing to Christ. The scriptures clearly teach the HOLY SPIRIT IS WAS GUIDEUS INTO ALL TRUTH NOT A PLAGERIZED AUTHOR

I am glad Bro Laurence said nothing is to be SUBTRACTED FROM THE LAW. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT ADVENTISM IS DOING MAKING THE DECALOGUE ONLY THE LAW OF GOD AND THE REST OF THE LAWS THE LAW OF MOSES. GALATIANS 3, 10 FOR ALL WHO RELY ON WORKS OF THE LAW R UNDER A CURSE AS IT IS WRITTEN CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW DID THE BOOK OF THE LAW CONTAIN ONLY THE DECALOGUE ? NO LETS SEE Deuteronomy 30, 10 IF U OBEY THE LORD YOUR GOD TO KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS STATUES WHICH IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW

Imagine a SDA following the instructions of a demented, demonic-possessed woman called Ellen G White, professing to know the Word of God, a SDA who are not allowed to think for him self, read the Bible, understand it as it is, but have to consult a medium to tell him what the Word says.... Imagine a SDA who believe God's Word is insufficient and in some respects wrong or deceiving, whose organization had to print their own version of God's Word, calling it the Clear Word Bible, which in most cases are pure blasphemy. And these same SDA people want to question a man like MacArthur...

Imagine that Walter know bible at all. He live in he's imaginary world. You cannot compare this two. Children of Israel means 12 tribes of Israel. Are you Jew under Mosaic law?

@@jackdaniels5489 Go read chapter 2 of Genesis the Sabbath is from the beginning. What was Adam? was he a jew? And yes we are spiritual jews / israelites grafted back in to the family of God. Read Romans Chapter 11.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

@@anthonsaays6714 Did Jesus fulfilled law's and prophet's?

Count the number of people who keep the Sabbath in Genesis 2 and tell everyone here how many and their names.

Interesting thought. I've always believed Sunday=Sabbath Monday=first day that's how I'll see it. I do agree with resting in Jesus.

@@Openreality Matthew 11:28 Christ said: "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and *I will give you rest."* No Jew could hear or read these words without immediately understanding that the Jewish people were once in Egypt and set free from Egypt to find "rest" in the wilderness from all their labors which they had done in slavery. Yet, these Jews were not in Egypt that heard these words but were in Jerusalem. The weekly Sabbath was tied to the redemption of the children of Israel from the bondage of Slavery in Egypt. Likewise, the redemption of both Jew and Gentile and the entire world is tied to the redemption of all mankind from the slavery of the law of sin and death under the old covenant by the death and resurrection of Christ upon the first day of the week. These words from Christ could not be clearer. Just as the Israelites were given rest from the bondage of slavery in Egypt, Christ is now offering those under the law rest from the bondage of *"the ministration of sin, condemnation and death"* (2Cor. 3:6-9) and freedom from the wages of sin. *Thus, Hebrews 4:8 explicitly says, that "Jesus spoke of another day" as the day of rest.* And, *the point is that if Sabbath keeping have given the Jews Rest, Jesus would not have spoken of a different day when they would find rest.*

​@@billclass5847That's easy... Adam and Eve did, the two parents of the human race. They were the only two people alive in Genesis 2 at that time.

@@undrielgrenger53 Count the number of people who keep the Sabbath in Genesis 2 and tell everyone here how many and their names. The Adventist teach that Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath so “all mankind” is obligated to follow their example! However, there is NO example. Unlike the Adventist teaching, no one in scripture teaches to follow Adam and Eve in their Sabbath keeping. Moses didn’t! Christ didn’t! The prophets didn’t! and neither did the Apostles! And, the reason is, there is NO example. None of the prophets or the Apostles taught the Sabbath was binding on the Gentile Nations or Christians. And, Christ did not teach contrary to them and to scripture. So, you are lying. *Moreover, you all DON'T keep the Sabbath yourselves!* When do you come to Jesus and stop all your deceptive practices? Who are you fooling??? 60% of the Adventist's leave Adventism because of their deceptive practices. It's likely you will too and you will never be able to undo all the heresies you taught while supporting the cult, you once were apart. Such hypocrisy! • The Adventist teach that Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath so “all mankind is obligated to follow their example! Yet, NO ONE IS SCRIPTURE SAYS EITHER TO FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE OR THAT THEY KEPT THE SABBATH. • The real truth about Gen. 2. • *Genesis 2 demonstrates that the 7th day is not a day of the week, because, it has no morning and evening to it.* • It does not say that humans rested or were told to rest. • It does not say that humans were told to follow God’s example. • It does not say that God taught Adam and Eve on the Sabbath. • It does not say God created the Sabbath, or that humans kept it. On the seventh day of creation, God “rested.” But he was not tired; what it means is that he stopped creating. The creation was complete. He stopped creating when he came to the seventh day. But he didn’t stop every week - he stopped only once, and he did not create at all on the seventh day. Jesus taught that not He and his Father Work on the Sabbath, not REST. God didn’t create on the eighth day, either, or the ninth, or the tenth, etc. Perhaps this is why Genesis does not say that evening and morning were the seventh day - God’s non-creation continued from that day on. To God, all those days were like the seventh. He was resting on those days, too, until sin entered. (Jesus said that God is now working - John 5:17. He is redeeming the world, re-creating his people. This work became necessary when Adam and Eve sinned.) What is interesting is that Christ lays the responsibility of the murder of Abel squarely at the feet of the Sabbath keepers in Mt. 23. And, Christ doesn't stop there, he blames the death of every single righteous person in the entire old Testament on the wicked Sabbath keepers. Let's be honest. Every person had to be circumcised of the flesh prior to observing the weekly Sabbath. Not one person is ever said to keep a Sabbath until Exodus 12, and even then, *It's an annual Sabbath day* not a weekly Sabbath. Genesis 2 doesn't say anything about *anyone keeping the Sabbath* . God didn't keep the Sabbath either, because Christ said, that both HE and his FATHER *work* every Sabbath day (John 5:16-19) . The weekly Sabbath doesn't show up anywhere until Exodus 16 and even then, the Israelites have no idea what day it is. Moreover, the first time anyone ever keeps a Sabbath in scripture, *it is NOT the weekly Sabbath but an Annual Sabbath. And, 2 Annual Sabbaths are kept *before anyone in scripture keeps a weekly Sabbath day, * in Exodus 12* called the 'First day of Unleavened Bread" ! No one was destroyed for Sabbath breaking. The Sabbath was not instituted until Exodus 16 and the Israelite's, were commanded to be circumcised of the flesh and kept 2 annual holy days prior to anyone keeping a Sabbath in the bible. God *didn't bless or sanctify Adam and Eve* in Gen. 2. *But, on Sunday the his resurrection, God in the resurrected flesh in person blessed ALL his disciples and sanctified them with his own hands* The Adventist's are ever ecstatic over God blessing a day, while shunning the enormity of God in own Son, standing before the disciples and blessing with his own hands the disciples on Sunday and sanctifying THEM as his own! *Just to be clear, Jesus, the apostles nor the prophets taught Christians or Gentile nations to keep the Sabbath!!* For all this bluster and bovarism by the Adventists about Sabbath keeping, THEY DON’T keep the Sabbath either. They just SAY they do!

They have been taught to love a false christ, that's all. Well wrote the Apostle Paul to the Corinthians in his day. It's so fitting for a warning concerning the Judaizing ministers of the Adventists to this very day. 2Cor. 11:3 "But I fear, lest by any means, *as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.* 4 For if he that cometh preacheth *another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."* … 15 Therefore it is no great thing if *his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.* 16 I say again, let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little. 17 That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also. 19 *For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.* 20 *For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man EXALT himself, if a man SMITE you on the face.* *TO ALL WHO READ THIS: Please understand, these people have never kept the 10 commandments. And, Neither do they keep the Sabbath. It's never been about keeping the 10 commandments, it's about "Drawing away followers after themselves", Condemned throughout the New Testament.

Is it the day u worship or the CREATOR? Im of the assumption u dont pray and worship God on sunday? Since the day created from création u deem PAGAN?

@@charnelallan7159 try reading Isaiah 58:13 and you’ll understand

Jehovahs Witness are a prime example... Don't observe Christmas or Easter.... yet they don't keep The Sabbath....

​Isaiah, Jeremiah, EZEKIEL DANIEL WERE OLD COVENANT PROPHETS. ARE U UNDER A NEW COVENANT OR THE OLD

​@charnelallan7159 you might have missed alot.

Aaaaamen!!

There is a commenter who keeps calling everyone who follows the Sabbath an Ellen G. White follower. I grew up not hearing anything anywhere about Ellen White but this person keeps saying the Sabbath is for her and SDA members and how she's the one who told SDA members to keep the Sabbath. I thought she was of Baptist faith before she joined the SDA church and met them already worshipping on that day and keeping it holy? This person also said in a other video thread that Jesus broke the Sabbath by going in the field to look for food and telling the man he had healed to pick up his bed.

@@KarlaBedminister He never broke the Sabbath, he only broke it according to the man-made burdened laws of the Jewish state. If He did break it, we are all lost.

​@@toddarcand6002absolutely! Doing good is not the same thing than working.

For Adventist's the *the ministration of DEATH and condemnation engraved in stones* 2Cor. 3:6-16 is the Seal of God. Way to go!

@@billclass5847 Without Christ you cannot obey His laws.....Romans 8.... 7. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.

I second that

And that's all we can do is pray for people .

U should feel sorry for urself. Galatians 2 21 THEREFORE I DO NOT NULLIFY THE GRACE OF GOD FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS CAME BY THE LAW THEN CHRIST DIED IN VAIN

By the way, the law that was nailed to the cross, was the ceremonial laws, not the 10 Commandments Laws given on Mt. Sinai and written with the Finger of God; the Sabbath law of commandment number 4 was instituted in the Garden of Eden so therefore Adam and Eve kept it.

And they don't read the Bible for themselves, they just believe what they're told. But there were false teachers in the Bible and there are false teachers now. We have to find the truth ourselves!

@@bernadette6025 Think about it. How are you going to nail commandments written on stone to the cross made of wood? On the other hand you can nail things written on paper to the cross.

That is false teaching. The ten commandments were not in the garden of eden ​@@bernadette6025

​@@kawdwogyandarkwa574 Genesis 2: 2-4 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Now, here is Exodus 20: 8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, ... for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Now, ​ @kawdwogyandarkwa574 - that is how you know it was instituted in the Garden of Eden. That is the way to study your Bible, by APPLYING and COMPARING scripture with scripture. Blessings

R God's commandments confined to just the ten sayings given at horeb

You got that right people are being tested just like the Israelites were tested to see if they would keep gods sabbath holy. People now whether they realize it or not, are being tested to see if they will keep God‘s word and worship the way he wants us to, or to see if they’ll worship the way that they want to worship. God‘s word never changes. The Sabbath will even be kept in heaven.66:23 tells us this. Glad I could help you understand.

Rest simply means no program on that day - just remain at your home . If we start organising any program some people will probably be paid for running the program. Correct me if I am wrong.

Which scriptures say the sabbath is a test? Ellen?

@@charnelallan7159 Try Exodus 16:4 smart Alec ”Then the Lord said to Moses, “Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you. And the people shall go out and gather a certain quota every day, that I may test them, whether they will walk in My law or not.“ ‭‭Exodus‬ ‭16‬:‭4‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

@@karlothompson9093 try reading Isaiah 58:13

It was given to JEWISH NATION AND NOT TO GENTILES AT THAT TIME. PAUL the Apostle , or Peter, or John or any apostles never anytime mentioned to keep the Sabbath day !

​@@madhavaraogideon3281Romans 11, grafted on Israël so...

So why do u sda's choose only the 10 commandments to follow? Galatians 3, 10 For all who rely on works of the law r under a curse for it is written CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW. DO U FOLLOW THE BOOK OF THE LAW ? U TO SONCE U RELY ON THE LAW FOR SALVATION R UNDER A CURSE BECAUSE U DO NOT DO WZT SCRIPTURES SAYS

There’s a difference between the 10 commandments and the book of Moses God wrote the 10 commandments Moses wrote the rest the 10 commandments are still in the arc Moses’s law was put on the side of the arc 🙌

​@@JoseAlvarez-cc3mi And if they are soo special then why are they ministry of death abd condemnation? They are all one thing one covenant. 10 word's are named Word's of the covenant. We are not under old but new covenant. Sorry Charlie,but we are not under sabbath. Show me. Bible only word's Mark and Sunday in the bible together or where God forbids worshiped on Some day pls

WE HONOR ALL OF GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS ..DO NOT STEAL. COMMIT ADILTRY. BARE FALSE WITNESS. COVIT. HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME.AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THE REST. BUT HERE COMES THE BIG ONE THAT MANY ARE STUMBLING OVER, AND IS THE 4th COMMANDMENT WHERE-IN HE TELLS US TO REMEMBER...! GO TALK TO GOD ABOUT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON❤ D​@@charnelallan7159

@@jackdaniels5489May I ask whose life is your example!!! Ifs Jesus well He kept it and He told us if we truly love Him, we are to all keep all the 10 Commandments!!

Please give chapter and verse in the Bible where the "binding" bit is found. You do not want to give a lie at all.

Thank you keep on. My brother is eternal.let them continue to teach heresy's.tgank my bro.i was also a 🌞 keeper but 2018Yavhi op my eyes and my wife .we got.without any listen from anyone but from God.shalom

*spurts out my coffee" .... !!! Whaaaahahahaha!!!!

Isaiah 65, 17 FOR I WILL CREATE A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH AND THE FORMER THINGS WILL NEVER COME TO MIND NOR BE REMEMBERED

BREAKING NEWS: Revelation 7:15 For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. READ THE ENTIRE CHAPTER FOR CONTEXT

McArthur is a popular figure within the happy-clappy movement, drawing large crowds to HIMSELF. It would be very helpful if he would be taking people to Christ- I am very wary of his kind and the like

You are correct jay

​@@vueneonee7144It's very sad you feel this way, while SDA hospitals perform Abortions and have Ladies preaching from pulpits to mention but a few deviations from commandments and instructions in our Heavenly Father's Holy Word.

@@vueneonee7144 I agree with you.

@@adriennaude1265

...did you catch JM Bible version? "a" Sabbath? The article "a" does not equals the article "The". Sounds as if the Sabbath day was demoted. The same applies to SoP. "a" messenger sounds belittle when compared to "The Messenger" of The Lord.

@@chowman007 Yes, I did. I wasn't sure whether it was his translation or that he read it wrong?

@divergentone7736 many modern versions since Vatican 2 have that change. I wonder why...

@@chowman007 I think you know the answer ;) Vatican is Satan's throne. He wants distort the character of God and the plan of salvation. He has painted God as a tyrant who demands a blood sacrifice to appease His wrath, a system based on imperial law (penal/legal), instead of God's beautiful law of design (love) Jesus shows us exactly who God is. Praise God!

How can a day which God created be of à dead pope's authority ? Do u not offer prayer and worship to God on sunday the pope's day?

I'm just a follower of Jesus Christ it makes me sad that there aren't enough Sabbath worship service were I live

​@@cindylaughlin-ve7hn sorry for this. Where do you live?

I agree. An adventist is anyone looking forward to the 2nd advent of Christ, which even some who dont yet understand the importance of the 7th day sabbath in completing God's decalogue are anticipating the 2nd advent. What they dont understand yêt is that God doesnt change and neither His law which is the foundation of His government and the transcript of His character. In the middle of sabbath you find Abba, God's name. Ś-Abba-th' _ I call myself or my name is Abba, Abba Father. Here is the patience of the saints, here are they which keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus or the spirit of prophecy, Rev.19v10. SDA or no A, once you keep all the commandments of God including the forgotten one, the only one that says Remember because God knew that we have the tendency to forget, we will all be marked men and persecuted by those who receive the mark of the beast. It boìls down to obedient or disobedient. Some sda wont share my view, just as cultish as catholics who say outside of their denomination you cant be saved. However, the Revelation 14v6-12 message will unite perfectly all those who are preaching and living by it. Just like it all opposing it will be united. It is the message of righteousness by faith for all who will èxercise that faith. Praise God Always fellow believer and israelite by circumcision of the heart.

The pope is of satan ,do you think that is the reason, protestants took a bible,a book made by a pope and made thousands of counterfeit denominations with it.

Jesus rose from the grave on the first day of the week, on Sunday morning after the sabbath was pass. Please read Galations chapter 1. We are under a New Covenant, we are under Grace, not the old covenant any more. Jesus ressurrection changes everything.

@@orettacarter1312 where in the Bible says that the resurrection changes everything? and yes even Jesus rested in the sabbath day!

@@mariagallegos1164 I am living by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ, it not of works of the law, less any man should boast, but because of Jesus precious blood, he shed for me on the cross. Read Galations, the sabbath hath done away in Jesus Christ.

@@orettacarter1312 is He not the Lord that changes not? Which god do you serve? Not the God of the Bible. You clearly rejected many verses in your own statement. I will not alter a thing that has gone from my lips, with God there is no shadow of turning, I am the Lord I change not, Jesus the same today yesterday and forever. The new covenant is the same covenant on better promises with Christ being the substance. The new covenant clearly says "I will write my laws in their foreheads and innermost parts". The difference is, our failure to keep our promise of the covenant of keeping His commandments, God didn't fail, so Jesus Christ came to show us how to keep it and upon our faith He will work the works of keeping His commandments within us. They are His works not ours. It isn't just "I believe" like so many false Gospels out there, but by faith we keep them. And Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith. This implies a time when our faith is small and the struggle with sin is great until he through our lives strengthens our faith and our sinful nature diminishes until He has perfected our faith. 1 John chapter 2 is clear on the meaning to be in Christ. "And hereby we know that we are "in Him(Christ), if we keep His commandments. Not one jot or tittle of the law will pass my friend. Do you believe Christ or the false teachers?

Romans 2 says differently.

The whole law is the book of the law which consiste of 613 commandments

​@charnelallan7159 Jesus died and rose again on the third day to set us free from the law as He fulfilled it hallelujah!!!! He is our sabbath rest.

​@@robertdavidson3999 Does it mean you stopped working?

​@@charnelallan7159why stop at 9 then?

@@obedameyaw3782 ROMANS 7,6 BUT NOW HAVING BEEN RELEASED FROM THE LAW SO THAT WE SERVE IN THE NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT AND NOT IN THE WRITTEN CODE. Do u know wat the written code is ? The mosaic law which included the décalogue. Have u read Mathew 5. IT SAYS U HAVE HEARD AS IN THE LAW BUT I TELL U. THE LAW OF CHRIST SUPERCEDES THE MOSAIC LAW WHICH INCLUDED THE DECALOGUE. THE MOSAICLAW WAS EXTERNAL THE LAW OF CHRIST IS SPIRITUAL FROM THE HEART.

Please explain how you keep the Sabbath of the 4th commandment. What are your dos and don'ts.

@@davidwilliams6580 Well, being VERY inconsistent, from Sabbath to Sabbath, but: - I try to ‘pray in’ the Sabbath - put away all things that distract me from thoughts of God - get comfortable & read Scripture & maybe some Spirit of Prophecy - watch some good sermons, documentaries, nature shows, etc… - pray some more - by God’s merciful grace, I wake up, pray, - get to church service (…hopefully to Sabbath school, but rarely make it on time, if at all!🤦🏾…) - fellowship with my spiritual family after service - potluck at church/someone’s home - help clean up wherever I am - do whatever the family individually does to ‘close out’ the Sabbath - if I’m ‘alone’, or leave church w/out potluck or whatever, I’ll stop by my big brother’s home to hang out with my sis-in-law, niece & nephew, or head home, change clothes - take a walk if weather permits & meditate, listening to spiritual audio within the sounds of nature (…birds, etc…) - call someone to see how they’re doing - get back home - ‘close out’ the Sabbath in prayer I’d love to be more proactive, in visiting & helping people that are in need of help, in any way, but my introverted personality, overthinking fear & social awkwardness, helps keep me from even TRYING to, very often!🤦🏾 🙏🏾Please God, forgive & help me with boldly loving confidence, to glorify You! In the capable Name of Your Son, I ask you this! Amen!🙏🏾💗🥰💪🏾

Really? How do you arrive at this conclusion? I totaly agree that the Sabbath must be kept on the seventh day of the week, Saturday, however there are areas, in my humble opinion, where the SDA Church deviates to the point of being defiant of certain clear instructions in our Heavenly Father's Holy Word. Abortions at SDA hospitals, lady preachers to name but a few where the SDA seems to disregard very clear instructions in our Heavenly Father's Holy Word.

Which Bible? Your Clear Word blasphemous abomination?

Scripture reference for SDA please being the true end time church please. As far as I know there is one body in Christ and the church is not an earthly organization, rather it is made up of spiritually born again believers in Christ Jesus who have placed their faith in Him and not their own works. Ephesians 2:8-9

The Mormons say the same thing. So, do the Armstrongites. There's a long line of cults making that claim.

NO, you are wrong SDA is false church, full of lies, encouraging people to keep fourth commandment, out of ten commandments,

Support your writing by giving the relevant references to scripture passage/s.

We need to pray for SDA leaders who are leading g people astray. God says our works are like filthy rags. He does not desire our sacrifices, there is oy one sacrifice which has pleased God and that is Jesus shedding His Blood for our sin. How can you say the devil made Sunday when God is the creator of 7 literal days which includes Sunday or day one if you prefer. We are to walk with Christ daily. Do you enter a relationship and then only focus on it once a week?

Only the Sabbath day was blessed and set apart, not every day. And you still have to walk every day with Him.

Hehehe. If you become a seventh-day Adventist God gives you a special protection from deception. That you should know. Roger Morneau said it after he got out from occultism to become a seventh-day Adventist, becoming a man of prayer and wrote many books. You look out for his confession on youtube

LETS KEEP PRAYING FOR THEM, THAT THEY WILL SEE THE LIGHT AS IT IS LAYED OUT IN GOD'S WORD

You are right on target my brother Amen 🙏

Where is that passage about the Spirit of Prophecy found?

​@@roythomasful2 Chronicles 20:20 “And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.” Who is Spirit of prophecy? Answer: The Holy Spirit. He is the one that gives the gift of prophecy. (1 Cor. 12:27-30; Rom. 12:4-8; Eph. 4:4-16). Study Revelation 19:10; 22:9 along with the previous Bible texts. Jesus warned of false prophets in the last days in Matthew 24. So then we will need to know who is a true prophet. There are thousands of people today calls themselves prophets.

If they speak against the laws of God they are false prophet.

​@@roythomasfulRevelation 19:10

It doesnt make what McAuthur said anyless true.

That makes u false witness bearer

Where in Revelation? Please give the reference.

I must apologize, I was wrong, when I wrote this I didn't have my study notes and my study Bible , I usually don't respond, about scriptures without my notes and Bible for this reason, the scriptures I was thinking about was Matthew 5:17, 18, 19, I was writing down scriptures in Revelation about keeping the commandments, these are the scriptures, Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, thank you for bringing this to my attention, I want to educate, not mislead, again thank you.

That's not true in the slightest, because James admonished Christians that they would be blessed if they _continued_ to live by the "royal law of liberty". There isn't a single apostle in the bible that taught the antichrist doctrine that it is supposedly impossible to live by it. That evil doctrine comes straight from the mind of Satan. It's just another twisted way of telling ppl to elevate their own moral standards above God's.

I found the following Article which tells you all you need to know what the SDA is .... """The Seventh-day Adventist church traces its roots to American preacher William Miller (1782-1849), a Baptist who predicted the Second Coming would occur between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844. Because he and his followers proclaimed Christ’s imminent advent, they were known as “Adventists.” When Christ failed to appear, Miller reluctantly endorsed the position of a group of his followers known as the “seventh-month movement,” who claimed Christ would return on October 22, 1844 (in the seventh month of the Jewish calendar). When this didn’t happen either, Miller forswore predicting the date of the Second Coming, and his followers broke up into a number of competing factions. Miller would have nothing to do with the new theories his followers produced, including ones that attempted to save part of his 1844 doctrine.......... Another group of Millerites was influenced by Joseph Bates, who in 1846 and 1849 issued pamphlets insisting that Christians observe the Jewish Sabbath-Saturday-instead of worshipping on Sunday. This helped feed the intense anti-Catholicism of Seventh-day Adventism, since they blamed the Catholic Church for changing the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. ...........These two streams of thought-Christ entering the heavenly sanctuary and the need to keep the Jewish Sabbath-were combined by Ellen Gould White, who claimed to have received many visions confirming these doctrines. Together with Edson and Bates, she formed the Seventh-day Adventist denomination, which officially received its name in 1860. Adventist Propaganda ,,,, White claimed to receive the first of several hundred visions in December of 1844. She gained recognition in Adventist circles as a prophetess and became the church’s leader. Over the next few decades, she provided guidance on almost every.aspect of belief and worship, writing over fifty books. Adventist Beliefs Seventh-day Adventists agree with many Catholic doctrines, including the Trinity, Christ’s divinity, the virgin birth, the atonement, a physical resurrection of the dead, and Christ’s Second Coming. They use a valid form of baptism. They believe in original sin and reject the Evangelical teaching that one can never lose one’s salvation no matter what one does (i.e., they correctly reject “once saved, always saved”). Unfortunately, they also hold many false and strange doctrines. Among these are the following: (a) the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon; (b) the pope is the Antichrist; (c) in the last days, Sunday worship will be “the mark of the beast”; (d) there is a future millennium in which the devil will roam the earth while Christians are with Christ in heaven; (e) the soul sleeps between death and resurrection; and (f) on the last day, after a limited period of punishment in hell, the wicked will be annihilated and cease to exist rather than be eternally damned. (For rebuttals of many of these ideas, see the Catholic Answers tracts, The Antichrist, The Hell There Is, Hunting the Whore of Babylon, The Whore of Babylon, and Sabbath or Sunday?) Adventists also subscribe to the two Protestant shibboleths, sola scriptura (the Bible is the sole rule of faith) and sola fide (justification is by faith alone). Other Protestants, especially conservative Evangelicals and Fundamentalists, often attack Adventists on these points, claiming they do not really hold them, which is often used as “proof” that they are “a cult.” However, along the spectrum of Protestantism (from high-church Lutherans and Anglicans to low-church Pentecostals and Baptists), there is little agreement about the meaning of these two phrases or about the doctrines they are supposed to represent. Adventist Anti-Catholicism Catholics may suppose that anti-Catholicism is part of Adventism’s radical fringe. Unfortunately, this is untrue. Adventists who are moderate on Catholicism are a minority. Anti-Catholicism characterizes the denomination because it is embraced in White’s “divinely inspired” writings. A few illustrations help indicate the scope of the problem: “Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots . . . is further declared to be ‘that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.’ Revelation 17:4-6, 18. The power that for so many centuries maintained despotic sway over the monarchs of Christendom is Rome.” (The Great Controversy, 338). “It is one of the leading doctrines of Romanism that the pope is the visible head of the universal Church of Christ . . . and has been declared infallible. He demands the homage of all men. The same claim urged by Satan in the wilderness of temptation is still urged by him [Satan] through the Church of Rome, and vast numbers are ready to yield him homage” (ibid., 48). “Marvelous in her shrewdness and cunning is the Roman Church. She can read what is to be. She bides her time, seeing that the Protestant churches are paying her homage in their acceptance of the false Sabbath. . . . And let it be remembered, it is the boast of Rome that she never changes. The principles of Gregory VII and Innocent III are still the principles of the Roman Catholic Church. And has she but the power, she would put them in practice with as much vigor now as in past centuries” (ibid., 507-8). “God’s word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches, and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures, in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated. Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever believe and obey the word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution” ( ibid., 508-9). Bear in mind that these quotes are not taken from an obscure work of White’s that nobody ever reads. They are from what is probably her single most popular volume, The Great Controversy. Adventist Eschatology Seventh-day Adventism is basically consumed with the concept of the last days. It was formed from the remnants of the Millerite movement, which was created to await the world’s end. In White’s end-times view, the Jewish Sabbath and the Catholic Church play prominent roles. According to her, the papacy is the seven-headed beast from the sea in Revelation 13:1-10. Accompanying this beast is a lamb-like beast from the earth (Rev. 13:11-18). The latter causes the world to worship the former and has an image made of it. White proclaimed that the second beast is the United States (The Great Controversy, 387-8), and that it will force people to worship the papacy by “enforcing some observance which shall be an act of homage to the papacy” (ibid., 389). This observance, she says, is Sunday worship rather than Saturday worship. White claims that the papacy changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday, making this change a mark of its authority. In her view, there will come a time when the United States will establish a “national Sunday law” and compel its citizens to worship on Sunday. It will not compel them to become Catholics, but to join a Protestant state-church that is an “image” of the papacy, and thus, “the image of the beast” (ibid., 382-96). Seventh-day Adventism cannot change its views on the Catholic Church being the Whore of Babylon without admitting that it was wrong on Sunday worship. It cannot admit that Sunday worship is not the mark of the beast without changing its views on the Jewish Sabbath. Seventh-day Adventism cannot cease to be anti-Catholic without ceasing to be Seventh-day Adventism. There is a “moderate” wing of Adventism that is more open to Catholics as individuals. In fact, White was willing to concede that-in the here and now (before the end times)-some Catholics are saved. She wrote that “there are now true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion, who honestly believe that Sunday is the Sabbath of divine appointment. God accepts their sincerity of purpose and their integrity before him. But when Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than Rome, will thereby honor popery above God” (ibid., 395). Unfortunately, this one tolerant statement is embedded in hundreds of hostile statements. While this.aspect of her teaching can be played up by her more moderate followers, it is difficult for them to do so, because the whole Adventist milieu in which they exist is anti-Catholic. The group is an eschatology sect, and its central eschatological teaching, other than Christ’s Second Coming, is that the Second Coming will be preceded by a period in which the papacy will enforce Sunday worship on the world. Everyone who does not accept the papacy’s Sunday worship will be killed; and everyone who does accept the papacy’s Sunday worship will be destroyed by God. By virtue of their valid baptism, and their belief in Christ’s divinity and in the doctrine of the Trinity, Seventh-day Adventists are Christians. But Christians, once separated from the Church our Lord founded, are susceptible to being “tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine” (Eph. 4:14). """ THANKS TO CA

What do you believe in regards to her writings if i may ask?

@@IllBeHonest1980 I haven’t read enough of them to be able to give an accurate account. What I have read made me fall more deeply in love with my Savior, Jesus Christ. They pointed me back to the Bible. I credit her counsel for my good health, which I believe she received from our Heavenly Father. I am 76 years old, I haven’t eaten meat in more than 30 years & do not take any medication, neither prescription nor OTC. She counseled us against tobacco at the time that physicians were advising people to smoke. With her very limited education, I can only credit her knowledge to our Heavenly Father.

@@bunnielynn777 Well thats wonderful and i definitely think her advice on health is spot on however the SDA ive talked to give me the impression that they think her writtings are infallible so you cant really have a discussion with them and expect them to actually listen as long it goes against Mrs White. This does make it feel more like a cult

@@IllBeHonest1980 I know a lot of SDA’s & there maybe some like you say, but you can’t judge a whole denomination by some that you’ve met.

Did the Lord Jesus Christ and His disciples keep the sabbath back then though?

@@KATAERO1 yes they did Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read… In addition Jesus calls himself Lord of the Sabbath. Jesus never had a problem with the Sandy Sabbath. He had a problem with the way the Jews taught it. He kept the Sabbath even in death 😊

@@KDT227 YES, HE KEPT THE SABBATH, because He was born under the law to redeem you FROM the curse of the law, so that you can open your eyes and realized that you ARE NOT saved by keeping the law, BUT BY FAITH IN HIM ALONE

The Sabbath was kept at 70ad.

@@Stefan-X24 Yes, by SDA pharisees

_"I am a seventh day Adventist"_ Better known as Pharisee PARROTS, who don't follow Sola Scriptura.

Is he working for the Jesuits?

@@joshuastavos4376 I bet if he would have a study on the subject he just might start to believe but he has to open his heart and look into what he is claiming

@@wwjd_ Amen!

Why then did the pharisees want to kill apostle Paul ? If he was in the synagogue to just keep the sabbath ?

As I said: In acts 21:28-34 states that the Jews wanted to kill Paul NOT because he kept the sabbath (the sabbath WAS NOT AN ISSUE), but because the gentiles who acceped Chist as their personal Saviour, were not obliged to keep the Mosaic law in order to be saved (a new concept still refuted by the jews of today). the seventh - day - sabbath was not part, and has never been part of the Mosaic law, but as you well know, it is part of the TEN COMMANDAMENTS (the decaloge) spoken by God himself and written with His own finger on stone! @@charnelallan7159

1st kings 2 3 AND KEEP THE CHARGE OF THE LORD THY GOD TO WALK IN HIS WAYS TO KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS JUDGEMENT AND HIS TESTIMONIES AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE LAW OF MOSES

Apostle Paul went into the synagogue TO PREACH THE GOSPEL. AS IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REACH THE PHARISEES WHO LIKE SDA'S BELIEVE KEEPING THE LAW MAKE THEM RIGHTEOUSNESS

MALACHI 4 4 REMEMBER YE THE LAW OF MOSES MY SERVANT WHICH I COMMANDED UNTO HIM IN HOREB FOR ALL ISRAEL NEHEMIAH 10 29 THEY CLAVE TO THEIR BRETHREN THEIR NOBLES AND ENTERED INTO A CURSE AND INTO AN OATH TO WALK IN GOD'S LAW , WHICH WAS GIVEN BY MOSES

*YES,* for modern-day SDA pharisees, sabbath keeping *IS A MUST FOR SALVATION.* EGW Testimonies for the Church 6:356. My Life Today - Page 287 Jesus IS NOT needed for salvation.

*YES,* for modern-day SDA pharisees, sabbath keeping *IS A MUST FOR SALVATION.* EGW Testimonies for the Church 6:356. My Life Today - Page 287 Jesus IS NOT needed for salvation. Galatians 2:21

As Isaiah said, anyone who preaches contrary to the law has NO light in them. He didn't say they had some light or a little bit of light. He says they are to be treated as a false prophet, even if they say all the right things at other points. No preacher who rejects the Sabbath could ever be described as "biblically sound" by God's standard because they are following a false god. A deceiver will get some things right. That's how they convince ppl to follow them.

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 _"As Isaiah said, anyone who preaches contrary to the law has NO light in them."_ I feel really sad for you Not reading the Bible. For if you have had read it, you would have noticed two things. 1) *THAT WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE OLD COVENANT.* 2) That the law's purpose was to bring us to Christ and therefore was our schoolmaster. *BUT AFTER FAITH HAS COME, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE LAW* (schoolmaster) Galatians 3 You are right, a deceiver will get sometimes somethings right, therefor WE NEED TO READ THE BIBLE, SO THAT THE DEMON DRIVEN SDA CULT OUT OF HELL DON'T TAKE US TO HELL WITH THEM.

Most SDA are exclusive snobs

Watch "Olive branch fellowship "

WV is a false teacher and is the blind leading the blind. So also is JM.

Please Give chapter and verse for what you say.

Read the Scriptures yourself. Why do you ask somebody else to show you.

Definitely follow God! MacArthur would have a hard time repenting as he would lose a lot of his followers and his position in the world. He preaches eternal hell and needs to repent of that as well. I pray the Holy Spirit bring this preacher to his senses and follow Christ all the way!

Your oddnppeaa yukro d as .

Sorry phone trouble. 🙏 for clear answer through the word.

@@conniegaby6275 cute but not sufficient, we must be prepared to explain why we believe what we believe