John McEnroe vs Serena Williams 

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She lost 6-1 to a man ranked 203rd who was half drunk after a round of golf.

Serena = Men are better Everybody= Claps Johnny= Men are better Everyone= How can u say that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Kudos to Serena for being honest. Graceful lady, and John McEnroe was and IS right.

We live in a time when so many people just cannot handle the truth. They would rather live a lie because it "feels" good.

I seem to recall someone demanding an apology from McEnroe. He said: "No." Perfect response!!

The further a society drifts from truth ,the more it will hate those who speaks it - George Orwell

In fact, he was being very generous with a 700th place!

I love when they asked him what he thought he’d be ranked. He answered around 1200. They weren’t ready for that kind of honesty

Joh McEnroe committed the ultimate crime “ speaking the truth” instead of what people want to hear”

"somewhere in the 100-200 range" she lost against a guy ranked 200 at the END of his career who first went golfing and drank two beers

700 is pretty good. Flo-Jo is still the fastest women and holds the track and field record. Her time is 7090 (tied) compared to men's times. So the fastest woman ever is tied with the 7090th fastest man.

how refreshing to hear an opinion, a well informed opinion that is made honestly and not done in an effort to pander to the snowflakes. it is what it is.

Never apologize for telling the truth. We need the truth front and center.

Bruh saying number 700th is already being respectful toward her

Serena just earned my respect even though I don’t follow tennis anymore. She knows what she’s talking about

I disagree with McEnroe. I think Serena's ranking would be much lower than 700 if she played on the men's tour.

He told the truth and refused to apologize for telling the truth. Much respect

She lost to the rank 202 male player after he'd just finished a round of golf and had a couple of pints of lager. He even said he played like the rank 600/700 would play to keep it interesting to watch. The Williams sisters then went on to challenge only male players rank 350 or lower, after thier original claim to beat anyone below rank 200 failed miserably. They are yet to accept any challenges from males rank 350 or lower because they know they will lose.

“If he had time to think about it, the real answer would be somewhere in the 100-200 rank range” WRONG!!! He was the greatest to play the game! He doesn’t need time to think about it like you do. That is where YOU would rank her.

Fact: In the 1998 Australian Open, Serena Williams claimed that she could beat a professional male tennis player with a ranking lower than 200. She ended up playing one set against Mr. Karsten Braasch, who was ranked/seeded 203 at the time. Serena Williams lost the set against Karsten Braasch 6-1.

I like how John McEnroe, who was ranked #1 in the world for a considerable time, and so probably knows a little bit about tennis rankings, gives his honest opinion based on his expertise as the literal former greatest player in the world, everyone jumps on him. Like they have any expertise whatsoever compared to him.

I find it insane that he has to justify his comments- EVERYONE knows he´s right, and yet we find it necessary to play this charade. Truly remarkable how fucked this world has become.

Many of my friends and I played tennis in our teens. Every time there was a close call on the line (we were almost always on hardcourt, never grass, and rarely clay), we would always launch into a McEnroe tirade: "What are you nuts ref. There was chalk everywhere. EVERYWHERE!" It was an homage to our favorite player at the time, though we also held Bjorn Borg and Jimmy Connors in high esteem from the earlier era. But no one had the "fight" like McEnroe

McEnroe even stated that if he himself tried to play against the players now he would rank around 1500th...

Activist: "You can't talk about Serena like that! reeeeeeeeeeeee" Serena: "He's right though"

John has never held his tongue and thank God for that!

Lets remember two things: 1) Billy Jean in 1973 was 29 years old. Bobby Riggs was 55 years old. Bobby Riggs in his prime was the #1 player in 1939. Age makes a big difference. 2) Serena herself admits that playing a top male player would be no contest. She gets it. But in our "woke" world, admitting anything to the contrary of wokeness gets you a target on your back.

I don't understand why everyone shy away from saying 'Men are physically stronger than Women', We cant live in foolish world thinking that both are equal in everything, they simply aren't..Its not hatred, its the truth..its simply because of harmones, post adolescence man's body releases high levels of testosterone, which improves the muscle strength of men and so more physical power.

Now days anything that makes sense will be under attack.

McEnroe’s great line was “why doesn’t men and women play each other for titles.” McEnroe is right! There is a big difference between men and women!

This is insane, JM didn't say anything wrong.

So glad you included the mixed doubles. What is missing is the audio, but she says it to Letterman … the men are faster.

the team that won the women's soccer World Cup where beaten by 14 year old boys

Why be politically correct when you can be right. Good job John McEnroe.

The compare from 1973 King vs. briggs is insane. She was on her prime time and his prime was 30 years ago when they played against eachother. She was 29 and he was 55.

I think he could have easily refuted the conversation instead of this 700th thing by simply saying she isn't the best player in the world, Roger Federer, or Nadal or whoever the men's champion is.. Then it would have been on the NPR clown to dispute it.

Johnny Mac was right. The number 1 "woman" lost to a man ranked 203.

Women: “Serena can be just as good as the top male players in the world!” Serena: “oh FUCK nah I’m staying in the woman’s league.”

2:48 100-200 rank? No way. The male rankings go from 1 to 2,000. She would not be ranked at all.

John McEnroe who was the best tennis player in the world during the eighties was always known to be a very honest person. He is also very smart and I have a deep respect for his analysis and his view on the tennis world.

We aren't living in a sensitive time. We are living in an INSANE time with really CRAZY, contentious people.

I respect Serena for admitting the truth in her interview

Thank you so much for this post. Everything you posted is correct.

"She'd be ranked 100-200" Didn't she lose against a drunk guy outside of the top 200?

I'm glad he didn't switch up and stuck to his statement.

I'm watching this video in 2022.........The worlds completely mad now!!

How can you say she'd be 100-200? She literally played against #203 and got skunked. 700 seems like a totally reasonable estimate.

When she agrees with him, and people are still upset that’s the beginning of virtue signaling.

People have to call things the way they are and NEVER apologize for hurting someone's "feelings". Sticks and Stones... Bravo McEmroe

We live in such an “equality” based society that we’ve abandoned common sense and even reality.

When she asked him "why only the best female player?" there should only have been one answer from John . . . "C'mon, you cannot be serious!"

The best WNBA player of all time would literally lose to 15 year old boys in a 1v1

100th to 200th? my guy, she's not beating the boy's highschool team.

Don’t back down!

Was it ever John McEnroe VS Serena? He and she pretty much agreed.

Thank you, John McEnroe, for TELLING THE TRUTH, and for NOT BACKING DOWN. All respect, Sir!

1:19 Anyone explain to that guy that "not being able to beat the 700th ranked player" and "be ranked 700" is far from the same! If you cannot beat the 700th ranked player at all you'll probably be ranked 1500 or worse. I hate when reporters do this.

If women were as good as men at sport there would not be womens and mens sport there would just be sport.

100-200 rank range is pretty outrageous. Do we not remember when that dude spent all day drinking and playing golf and still mopped the floor with the williams sister. And he was below rank 200.

In Australia Williams sisters said they could beat any man outside the top 200. A local pro, ranked 203, took them up on the challenge. After playing a round of golf in the morning and a couple beers, he beat each of the Williams sisters 6-1, 6-1. Granted they both improved after that, but John was certainly correct that she was the best "female" tennis player ever.

John's balls are still intact. He's still spitting facts and being real.

McEnroe was spot on.....700 in the men's circuit is the same as being the best woman tennis player in the world. This has to stop.....he meant no disrespect and he acknowledged that she's the best female to ever play the game. Why is everything an issue nowadays.....there was a time.... not long ago.... when everyone would agree with his comment and nobody would question his integrity. He isn't degrading her....he's simply being realistic

From the 300+ languages in the world, he decides to speak the truth. That gentleman got my respect for life

Chris Evert when she was in her prime said about beating male players, "I can't even beat my brother and he's not ranked in the top 1000." McEnroe was being generous and Serena thought the idea of beating the top men was a complete joke. So, not a controversy as much as the networks have 24 hours to fill up every day, so they scrounge around for stories.

I know this is off topic but does anyone else hear the SPACE TRIP vaporwave playlist in the background or am I going crazy? 🤔

MPR News needs to be held accountable for the set up on Macenroe... NO ONE SHOULD TALK TO ANY REPORTER FROM THAT NEWS FEED.

Snowflakes everywhere. Even when it’s summer.

The simple fact that there is a men's and women's division in just about every sport is all the evidence you need.

Did John McEnroe forget Margaret Court who took four years off to have babies when she was in her prime, Margaret Court also won 64 grand slams in singles, doubles and mixed doubles…. Serena won most of her matches against second rate players like Maria Sharapova….

I'm a cricket fan and the interesting thing about cricket is that men and women can compete against each other in every aspect of the game except fast bowling. Everything else - batting, medium-pace bowling, spin bowling, fielding, wicketkeeping - they can compete with each other.

Tbh him saying she would be top 1000 in the world In men's is kind of a compliment.

Facts don't care about feelings 😁👍

I am a top 25 tennis player at a humble recreational club of 300 players. I have played and beaten our number 1 woman as a top 25 man twice.

He is absolutely right, and anyone thinking otherwise never heard the NPR interview. I did.

More realistically 900-1200.

Chris Evert had just won the U.S. Open. She was number one in the world. She played a practice round with her younger brother Jon was a member of the University 😮of Georgia tennis team Jon beat her, 6-0 6-0!

There's a video of that Olympic Gold medalist winner. Eileen Gu. She's a good athlete. But in the video, they showed her playing basketball with some other guys. She talked about how she was trying to get other girls to join in with her. She was happy to entice another girl to play. Watching her move on court with the guys it is obvious she is slower on the court. She probably has a couple of shots that she can do but under pressure from players who are on another level of quickness she will have problems.

"Okay, you happy now?" "Yes, I'm happy." See? It's all about the _feelings_ with these people.

Mac and Serena were both right- both players, and not “cancel culture” robots...

The problem is that we entertain and take serious this nonsensical bullshit that people get offended when you state the obvious.

It highlights the disconnect between radio and tv personalities and athletes. Athletes know of what they speak certainly more than someone behind a desk!

You said she will be ranked between 100 and 200? Thats unfortunately not true. It will be hard to win against well trained top 1.000 for serena or any ranked #1 in wta. And its not just about height, its more about agility, endurance and strength.

I'm glad he didn't back down. And I give Williams credit to point out the fact there's a difference to the capabilities in their respective divisions.

As a spectator, I generally used only go to see ladies matches live, the reason is at least in those days, men's tennis was mostly serve and volley, kind of a power game, but ladies have longer rallies and nuanced play, and it is fun to watch I was at Wimbledon once, but was not able to get a ticket at center court, so went to see the men's B rounds, and it was court side, even in the B round, when you are sitting that close, the balls were so fast that I could not follow with my eyes, as much as I appreciated the level of play, it was not much fun to watch

Love John, keep doing what you do

Does everyone have to explain everything he believes. I am glad he stood his ground and didn’t apologize for saying a fact.

John McEnroe and Serena Williams respect each other. They were both just stating what is a fact. But the media likes to turn everything into a controversy (racial, sexist, etc.).

Last year, some kids won the Little League World Series. They're obviously top 100 baseball players in the world!

How dare anyone demand an apology for merely expressing an opinion.

the start of the problem was actually the interviewer's assumption that Serena, because she is a woman, is automatically equal to a man on a tennis court and that there are no performance differences between the two sexes! that is just ignorant and indicates the NPR interviewer knows little, or nothing, about tennis. oh, and then she is willing to arrogantly argue with JOHN MCENROE, one of the greatest to ever play the sport and who follows it daily, about the subject? i think all this happened as the interviewer's ignorance/arrogance may have led her to question McEnroe's inclusion of 'female' in his statement, thinking that he was somehow being sexist. in actuality, though, she may be the one demeaning feminism by turning people off via her needlessly militant stance. of course there are differences between men and women, although one sex should certainly NOT be seen in the aggregate as superior to another! so, yeah, the interviewer was actually the problem and then ignorance/bullying of McEnroe by society actually amplified that stupidity, helped, no doubt, by McEnroe's reputation (pretty much left behind now) for being insensitive. come to think of it, maybe the interviewer should learn a little about tennis before debating one of the greatest players ever regarding his conclusions on the subject? is that asking too much? is that at all unreasonable, i wonder? or, if she doesn't want to do that, at least she can have the decency to apologize for her imputation that McEnroe was being sexist, as well as the arrogant presumption that she knows more than John McEnroe does about tennis? i don't want to go overboard here... there is nothing wrong with asking a question, of course. some, though, are certainly more pointed than others! i'm guessing there was an ignorant agenda there... if not, she has nothing to apologize for. there may be a way to tell, though. how did she act afterwards towards McEnroe when this all blew up, i wonder? did she demonstrate integrity by recognizing McEnroe's honesty, his long history of respect towards Serena's game and other facts that would help people not jump to the wrong conclusion about what he said? maybe. i see no mention of that in this piece, though. and that doesn't surprise me as people, in general (no matter their sex), don't often display such integrity. maybe we, the general public, will never know what her part in all this really was, then. she could be innocent and just intellectually, as well as morally, sloppy like so many of us are on so many occasions... it, at the end of the day, isn't a very big deal, though - not for McEnroe who certainly is going along his merry way, nor (apparently) for Serena. the game of tennis is probably totally unharmed by it, too. however, it should be said that unreasoning militant sexism, if that is what started this fiasco and fueled it, actually probably harms the feminist cause more than anything. it is a form of bullying and bullies don't typically make many friends, even of fair-minded people who otherwise could be potential allies... so, come on, people! we need to be better than this, don't we? advocate for equality but do it in the right way. treat other people well, especially when they are not trying to cause you a problem,. that is just common sense...

"Living in a sensitive time"? We're living in a time of delusional, irrational twisted feelings. No rational thought on most so called "offenses".

Living in this moist era, to many people are afraid to hear or speak the truth of any circumstances. Over some period of time we have to grow up and embrace the facts and stop this;"Oh you can't say that!" I commend John for not being afraid to say what needed to be said and Serena for acknowledging the differences.

When she was still playing, Chris Evert said that she practiced with men regularly, and that the best 1000 men in the world would beat her. I don’t know if she has updated this since then, either referring to Serena or to any other female player. I also don’t know if other analysts would accept her figure of 1000 as accurate. But for what it’s worth, that’s what she said.

"Why do you say the greatest female tennis player and not the greatest tennis player of all time?" (Me screaming at the electronic device) "How many MEN has she beaten?"

I don't think Serena could beat the NCAA Men's Champion much less the one of the top 700 on the ATP...

When they hold up three fingers on one of their hands and tell you that there are actually two; You'll either bow down and agree, or they will hound you until you do agree. [ Read George Orwell's "1984" ]

There is always someone or that women on that show that had to ask John why do you say women and not the greatest player. John is absolutely right because mens sport in anything is so much harder and more hardcore than women's sport. Just look at Rugby, Soccer, AFL if you're in Australia, it doesn't come close to what men are able to do compared to women.

We're entering a new Dark Age wherein truth and reason is being traded for feelings and identity politics.

She lost to the 204th ranked male, and she was destroyed by him, so we know she's not in the top 200. She said she meant she could beat any male outside 350, but I think she couldn't beat any of the top 500 men!!